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Thursday, July 16, 2009
One year ago today....July 16, 2008 Part I
Media Advisory: Have You Seen Me?
Page 1 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf
0045 hours Detectives notified of a report of a missing child.
Page 16 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/...lando-sentinel
LE searched Tone’s apartment early morning.
Page 90 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/...lando-sentinel
Lee called Tone and told him Caylee was missing.
Page 19 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2447608/...eased-Nov06-08
0105 hours Casey Anthony’s handwritten statement
Pages 29 – 32 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/...lando-sentinel
Lee returned to the Anthony home at 2:25 a.m. with Casey’s things he had collected from Tone’s apartment.
Lee said they “were encouraged to dump those items out” and “the officer left”. Cindy saw her J.C.Penney’s card, $140 - $200 in twenties that Cindy put in her pocket, “another card she took from me”, the officer grabbed an ID that Lee said appeared to be the old type of driver’s license. Lee found and “took care of” the key to Amy’s car.
Pages 21 – 26 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1641627/...ee---Statement
0411 hours: LE interviewed Casey at the Hopespring address
Pages 71 – 83 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080375/...eleased-part-1
Casey shows LE the last three known addresses for Zenaida.
Pages 10 – 12 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2817323/...2008-Documents
LE dropped Casey off at home. George told LE “he and his wife Cynthia (Casey’s mother) feared something may have happened to Caylee.
Page 12 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2817323/...2008-Documents
After seeing the 6:00 a.m. news, Simon Burch, employee of Johnson Towing, goes dumpster diving in his PJs and flip flops looking for the trash bag. When he could not locate the bag, he called OCSO. Detective Melich told him, they already had the bag.
Pages 17 – 19 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...Simon-0724.pdf
Casey and Tone text messages
Pages 47 - 50 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2811058/...sed-Nov-26-007
Pages 23 - 24 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2811460/...sed-Nov-26-012
Casey to Tone 6:48 a.m.: I’m so sorry for not telling you what happened..we obviously need to talk. I need you..and I love you more than you know
Tone to Casey 6:50 a.m.: Where is Caylee?
Casey to Tone 6:50 a.m.: I honestly don’t know.
Tone to Casey 6:53 a.m.: I don’t know…R u serious? When did you find out?
Casey to Tone 6:53 a.m.: Ive been filing reports all night and driving around with multiple officers looking at old apartments I had taken her to. Everything. I am the worst f*****g person in the entire world. I know’t know what ill do if something happens to her.
Casey to Tone: 6:54 a.m.: Too long. Lets just leave it at that.
Tone to Casey 6:57 a.m.: Y wouldn’t u tell me of all people I was ur boyfriend that cares about you and your daughter. Doesn’t make sense to me. Why would u lie to me thinking she was fine with your nanny?
Casey to Tone 6:59 a.m.: I lied to everyone. What was I supposed to say? I trust my daughter some psycho. How does that look?
Tone to Casey 7:01 a.m.: Idk what to say.. I just hope your daughter is okay and I’m gonna do whatever I can do to help ur family and the cops.
Casey to Tone 7:01 a.m.: I was put in handcuffs for almost 10 minutes and sat in the back of a cop car. The best thing and the most important person in my life is missing and gold only knows if I am ever going to see her again.
Casey to Tone 7:02 a.m. I am the dumbest person and the worst mother. I honestly hate myself.
Casey to Tone 7:03 a.m. The most important thing is getting Caylee back but I truly hope that you can forgive me..granted I will never be able to forgive myself nor will my family.
Tone to Casey 7:04:35 Who is this zanny nanny person
Casey to Tone 7:06 a.m. Someone I had met through a mutual friend almost 4 years ago. She used to be my buddy jeffs nanny before she became mine.
Casey to Tone 7:09 a.m. I’m scared.
Tone to Casey 7:12 a.m.: R u home?
Casey to Tone: 7:13 a.m.: Yeah. Almost 12 hours of stuff. Finally getting a shower. I fell like hell.
Tone to Casey 7:15 a.m.: Where did you drop off Caylee last time u saw her?
Pages 1 – 3 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2811062/...sed-Nov-26-008
Casey to Tone 7:17 a.m.: At her apartment. At the bottom of the stairs.
Tone to Casey 7:17 a.m.: Where?!
Casey to Tone 7:18 a.m.: Sawgrass apartments
Tone to Casey 7:19 a.m.: Have you told and showed the police the apartment.
Casey to Tone 7:20 a.m.: Told them and drove out there with two different officers. I just got back from the second drive.
Casey to Tone 7:21 a.m.: If they don’t find her..guess who gets blamed and spends eternity in jail?
Tone to Casey 7:23 a.m.: Yeah no sh** this serious why wouldn’t u say something sooner bout this? Too anyone?
Tone to Casey 7:24 a.m.: Oh and why are u texting me and not callin
Casey to Tone 7:24 a.m.: I talked to two people that have been directly connected to zanny. How can I sit there and be so blind and stupid? Its my fault.
Casey to Tone 7:25 a.m.: I was scared to admit it..i was scared that something was going to happen to my baby.
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One year ago today..... July 16, 2008 Part II
8:45 LE visited Sawgrass Apartments
Pages 55 – 58 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080375/...eleased-part-1
LE met with Investigator Leonard Turtora at Uniersal Studios. He checked several names in their database including Zenaida Gonzalez, Juliette Lewis and Jeffery Hopkins and learned the following: Casey was fired from Universal on 4/24/06; Jeffery Hopkins had worked for Universal and was fired on 5/13/02; Juliette Lewis was not found. While at Universal, LE called Casey and put her on speakerphone. Casey confirmed she worked at Universal and provided LE with her office extension phone number. Universal Inv. Turtora said it was not a valid extension and even tried to call the number; no Tom Manley was employed at Universal, the events department boss’ name is Tom Mattson. Mr. Mattson was contacted and he confirmed they did not have a Casey Anthony listed as an employee at the present or in the past.
Page 13 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2817323/...2008-Documents
Page 23 – 31 Incoming Text Messages July 16, 2008 to Casey’s phone http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2811460/...sed-Nov-26-012
Tone asked Casey why she would need to take money from her friend’s account. Casey said she needed a backup plan. Tone said he did not want to hear about a backup plan or anything she had to say about stuff like that.
Page 19 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2447608/...eased-Nov06-08
Chris Stutz received a text message “Caylee is missing for thirty-two days…” Later while Chris was at work Lee called him asking if he knew anything.
Page 13 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564652.pdf
12:30 p.m. – Sgt. Allen and Det. Wells picks up Casey and takes her to Universal to meet with LE on the scene. Casey told Universal Security she was an employee at Universal and didn’t have her ID. When asked by Security who her supervisor was, she said Tom Manly. When told no Tom Manley was employed by Universal, Casey offered no explanation. Investigator Tutora agreed to escort them to Casey’s office. They followed Casey to a nearby building and into the building’s inner hall. She walked down the hallway like she knew where she was going. Halfway down the hall, Casey stopped, turned and told LE she had lied to them and was not a current employee.
Page 13 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2817323/...2008-Documents
Diagram of path walked on page 14.
Cindy told Brittany Schieber she felt Casey was hiding something, Casey had told her she was going to Jacksonville for a month for a job and she was going to drop the baby off at a babysitter and Casey was having issues with the relationship Caylee had with her grandmother, Cindy. A couple of days later, the Jacksonville story turned into the Tampa story.
Pages 7 – 8 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643358/...7-24-Statement
Cindy told Brittany “Caylee’s baby doll was in her car seat and there was just a bag of a few diapers for Caylee in the back. Cindy said Casey would call to meet up with Cindy or have some reason for Cindy to leave the house. Instead of meeting up with her mother, Casey would go to the house and take things she needed including stealing money.
Pages 11 – 12 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643358/...7-24-Statement
1320 hours: LE interviews Casey at Universal Sutdios
Pages 85 – 151 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/...lando-sentinel
Casey’s text messages to Brittany Schieber
Page 1 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643358/...7-24-Statement
13:42: Caylee is missing. She has been for 32 days now. Please if you have any information call me on my cell or at home.
15:28: Yes. She has been for a few weeks.
15:30: Her nanny…someone I trusted…took her. No calls until yesterday.
15:36: Not great. We are hanging in there.
15:38: Thanks hun.
1601 hours Zenaida Gonzalez handwritten statement
Pages 47 – 49 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/...lando-sentinel
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Thank you desmom for the updates that you post for the forum. We truly appreciate all that you have done to make it easier to look back on the daily events of leading up to this date that Caylee was reported as missing.
Precious Caylee captured our hearts one year ago today as a missing child form Orlando, FL.  Caylee
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Interesting...
From the Tone/Casey text messages linked above:
6:48 a.m.: ..... I need you
6:53 a.m.: Ive been filing reports all night and (I have been) driving around with multiple officers looking at old apartments I had taken her to. Everything.
6:59 a.m.: ..... What was I supposed to say?
7:01 a.m.: I was put in handcuffs for almost 10 minutes and (I) sat in the back of a cop car.
7:03 a.m. ....... I truly hope that you can forgive me..
7:13 a.m.: Yeah. Almost 12 hours of stuff. Finally (I am) getting a shower.
7:21 a.m.: If they don’t find her..guess who gets blamed and spends eternity in jail? (I get blamed.)
7:25 a.m.: I was scared to admit it
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How I would have loved to have been privy to LE's private conversations when they discussed this:
LE met with Investigator Leonard Turtora at Uniersal Studios. He checked several names in their database including Zenaida Gonzalez, Juliette Lewis and Jeffery Hopkins and learned the following: Casey was fired from Universal on 4/24/06; Jeffery Hopkins had worked for Universal and was fired on 5/13/02; Juliette Lewis was not found. While at Universal, LE called Casey and put her on speakerphone. Casey confirmed she worked at Universal and provided LE with her office extension phone number. Universal Inv. Turtora said it was not a valid extension and even tried to call the number; no Tom Manley was employed at Universal, the events department boss’ name is Tom Mattson. Mr. Mattson was contacted and he confirmed they did not have a Casey Anthony listed as an employee at the present or in the past.
Page 13 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2817323/...2008-Documents
12:30 p.m. – Sgt. Allen and Det. Wells picks up Casey and takes her to Universal to meet with LE on the scene. Casey told Universal Security she was an employee at Universal and didn’t have her ID. When asked by Security who her supervisor was, she said Tom Manly. When told no Tom Manley was employed by Universal, Casey offered no explanation. Investigator Tutora agreed to escort them to Casey’s office. They followed Casey to a nearby building and into the building’s inner hall. She walked down the hallway like she knew where she was going. Halfway down the hall, Casey stopped, turned and told LE she had lied to them and was not a current employee.
Page 13 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2817323/...2008-Documents
Diagram of path walked on page 14.
1320 hours: LE interviews Casey at Universal Sutdios
Pages 85 – 151 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/...lando-sentinel
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Originally Posted by desmom
Interesting...
From the Tone/Casey text messages linked above:
6:48 a.m.: ..... I need you
6:53 a.m.: Ive been filing reports all night and (I have been) driving around with multiple officers looking at old apartments I had taken her to. Everything.
6:59 a.m.: ..... What was I supposed to say?
7:01 a.m.: I was put in handcuffs for almost 10 minutes and (I) sat in the back of a cop car.
7:03 a.m. ....... I truly hope that you can forgive me..
7:13 a.m.: Yeah. Almost 12 hours of stuff. Finally (I am) getting a shower.
7:21 a.m.: If they don’t find her..guess who gets blamed and spends eternity in jail? (I get blamed.)
7:25 a.m.: I was scared to admit it
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Very interesting. Hard to see what her priority is huh?  I, I, I, with a me thrown in for good measure. If I may also point out, she seems to have trouble directly answering any question posed to her. She just rambles on to redirect the conversation. Hmmm, that kind of reminds me of someone else with the initials CMA.
Thanks for the links Desmom. The way you organize them out for us everyday really puts everything into a much clearer picture. 
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Very interesting. Hard to see what her priority is huh? I, I, I, with a me thrown in for good measure. If I may also point out, she seems to have trouble directly answering any question posed to her. She just rambles on to redirect the conversation. Hmmm, that kind of reminds me of someone else with the initials CMA.
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I noticed that also. When I was typing the convo, I kept thinking I had forgot something because it did not flow well...if that makes sense.
Casey was not interested in what Tone had to say.
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Good morning to all 
Again Desmom, many thanks for your daily reflective posts from a year ago today.
In retrospect the police sure did move quickly in interviewing people in this case, almost by the time another lie came from Casey's mouth...LE had already interviewed/contacted the people she said were 'connected' in any way.
If I were LE I would question why this 'mother' had said she was conducting her own 'investigation'...yet she had not called any of these folks to speak to them about Caylee being 'missing'.
She either did not believe she would ever have to answer to the police..or she figured they would just believe her as her parents had done all of her life...?
I have no doubt that Casey blames Cindy for calling 911...and if push came to shove...Cindy now wishes that she hadn't called either.
Poor Caylee...she truly was a pawn in the Anthony dynamics.
Just my opinion of course...
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Originally Posted by desmom
How I would have loved to have been privy to LE's private conversations when they discussed this:
LE met with Investigator Leonard Turtora at Uniersal Studios. He checked several names in their database including Zenaida Gonzalez, Juliette Lewis and Jeffery Hopkins and learned the following: Casey was fired from Universal on 4/24/06; Jeffery Hopkins had worked for Universal and was fired on 5/13/02; Juliette Lewis was not found. While at Universal, LE called Casey and put her on speakerphone. Casey confirmed she worked at Universal and provided LE with her office extension phone number. Universal Inv. Turtora said it was not a valid extension and even tried to call the number; no Tom Manley was employed at Universal, the events department boss’ name is Tom Mattson. Mr. Mattson was contacted and he confirmed they did not have a Casey Anthony listed as an employee at the present or in the past.
Page 13 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2817323/...2008-Documents
12:30 p.m. – Sgt. Allen and Det. Wells picks up Casey and takes her to Universal to meet with LE on the scene. Casey told Universal Security she was an employee at Universal and didn’t have her ID. When asked by Security who her supervisor was, she said Tom Manly. When told no Tom Manley was employed by Universal, Casey offered no explanation. Investigator Tutora agreed to escort them to Casey’s office. They followed Casey to a nearby building and into the building’s inner hall. She walked down the hallway like she knew where she was going. Halfway down the hall, Casey stopped, turned and told LE she had lied to them and was not a current employee.
Page 13 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2817323/...2008-Documents
Diagram of path walked on page 14.
1320 hours: LE interviews Casey at Universal Sutdios
Pages 85 – 151 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/...lando-sentinel |
LE really did a great job handling this from the very beginning. They had all her lies exposed before she even finished telling them. I looked at the diagram and that was quite the jaunt she took them on. This is a perfect example of her never being called to task, she took them on a hike so she could buy time and come up with the next lie. The only problem is that this is a new arena for her. LE checks every little thing she tells them. She couldn't come up with a new story so quick. I think she was starting to see that corner she was backing herself into, but if she could just buy time.... Just one more day...
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I noticed that also. When I was typing the convo, I kept thinking I had forgot something because it did not flow well...if that makes sense.
Casey was not interested in what Tone had to say.
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 Yes... The first time I read it I was thinking I must be missing a text or question. Then I noticed it's a pattern and how she (they) talk to everyone. That's why her older friends never called her on it. They probably got sick of the headaches from running in circles.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,469464,00.html
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Good morning to all
Again Desmom, many thanks for your daily reflective posts from a year ago today.
In retrospect the police sure did move quickly in interviewing people in this case, almost by the time another lie came from Casey's mouth...LE had already interviewed/contacted the people she said were 'connected' in any way.
If I were LE I would question why this 'mother' had said she was conducting her own 'investigation'...yet she had not called any of these folks to speak to them about Caylee being 'missing'.
She either did not believe she would ever have to answer to the police..or she figured they would just believe her as her parents had done all of her life...?
I have no doubt that Casey blames Cindy for calling 911...and if push came to shove...Cindy now wishes that she hadn't called either.
Poor Caylee...she truly was a pawn in the Anthony dynamics.
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She was conducting a psychic investigation don't ya know? That's why she never asked anyone about Caylee or Zanny, that's how she knew Caylee was close to home, that's why she went out to the nightclubs, she was using her expert telepathic abilities. It was only after she went to jail her psychic connection to Caylee and the "kidnappers" diminished. She couldn't keep that protective force field on Caylee anymore, all those lead bars.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,469464,00.html
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Mornin' all~
thanks desmom!
re-reading thru the statements and some of the texts again- my heart breaks for all the innocent people that were drawn into this- Tony, Jesse, Amy, Zenaida at the onset.
Then of course, how many others got drug into it later, and the finger pointing began.
Seeing the JCPenney card mentioned- I admit to thinking of Casey yesterday when I went in to pay my bill, then decided to check out all the clearance items and thought, well, this is just one more thing she can't enjoy for herself anymore.
I think she was actually being truthful in some of her texts-
Its my fault
I am the dumbest person and the worst mother
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Mornin' all~
thanks desmom!
re-reading thru the statements and some of the texts again- my heart breaks for all the innocent people that were drawn into this- Tony, Jesse, Amy, Zenaida at the onset.
Then of course, how many others got drug into it later, and the finger pointing began.
Seeing the JCPenney card mentioned- I admit to thinking of Casey yesterday when I went in to pay my bill, then decided to check out all the clearance items and thought, well, this is just one more thing she can't enjoy for herself anymore.
I think she was actually being truthful in some of her texts-
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I think the most honest thing she said to anybody, was when she told Lee,"Maybe I'm just a spiteful &!t@h." I think that captures whatever happened to Caylee in a nutshell.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,469464,00.html
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She was conducting a psychic investigation don't ya know? That's why she never asked anyone about Caylee or Zanny, that's how she knew Caylee was close to home, that's why she went out to the nightclubs, she was using her expert telepathic abilities. It was only after she went to jail her psychic connection to Caylee and the "kidnappers" diminished. She couldn't keep that protective force field on Caylee anymore, all those lead bars. |
 and golly gee- even her own mother believed in her daughter's super powers, if she'd only be released, she can lead us to Caylee!
darn pesky jail cells just cancel out her amazing remote viewing capabilities, ah- but at least they got to bond over brownies one last time!
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I think the most honest thing she said to anybody, was when she told Lee,"Maybe I'm just a spiteful &!t@h." I think that captures whatever happened to Caylee in a nutshell.
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agree miss!
oh, another thing I thought of yesterday while trying on clothes- if any of our posters will be at the trial- think we can all ask them to tie their shirts in front with a stylish knot, it would give the A's the impression that oh- "look at the people that are supporting our daughter" but it will be a visual for us that yay! it's our IS peeps supporting Caylee!
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and golly gee- even her own mother believed in her daughter's super powers, if she'd only be released, she can lead us to Caylee!
darn pesky jail cells just cancel out her amazing remote viewing capabilities, ah- but at least they got to bond over brownies one last time! |
We see how that worked out didn't we? She shouted from the rooftops there was nothing she could do in jail. When she gets out it's bracelet making and brownie baking.
Isn't that something? Her child goes missing and she's baking brownies, and as LP put it, acting like a cruise director. *No offense to any cruise directors intended.
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agree miss!
oh, another thing I thought of yesterday while trying on clothes- if any of our posters will be at the trial- think we can all ask them to tie their shirts in front with a stylish knot, it would give the A's the impression that oh- "look at the people that are supporting our daughter" but it will be a visual for us that yay! it's our IS peeps supporting Caylee!
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great idea.
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I was thinking back yesterday to when Casey was released and she and Jose wanted the courts permission to 'visit' different places...of course it was denied.
I wonder where she was going to take Jose? Would they have eventually 'run into' Caylee's body? I don't think at that time Casey knew that LE could trace her pings and/or verify her calls..would she have said someone (the Nanny?) called and told her where to look?
I still get the impression that she felt like the police/Judge were like her parents...that she could plead her case and get off of her grounding/house arrest.
In so many ways Casey shows the maturity level of a teenager, maybe because she never had any consequences during that period of her life....so she never truly 'grew up'.
I sooo agree that most folks didn't pursue her lying far enough to disprove her...it would have been too much work, and to what end really? By the time the first couple of lies were debunked she would have just been on to the next fifty...seriously...there wasn't much (if anything) about Casey's life that wasn't a lie.
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We see how that worked out didn't we? She shouted from the rooftops there was nothing she could do in jail. When she gets out it's bracelet making and brownie baking.
Isn't that something? Her child goes missing and she's baking brownies, and as LP put it, acting like a cruise director. *No offense to any cruise directors intended.
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indeed- she was using her event planner skills having Cindy under her tutelage to later come in handy for Grams concert,
and *shock* while not having any trust in LE and can't call 911 when something happened to her daughter- was sure quick fingered to dial 911 as "the resident" to report the protesters.
It did give Baez ample time to bond with "his girl" tho.
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July 16th 2008 was a very busy day for LE. Casey sent them on numerous wild goose chases to Sawgrass & Universal and she was exposed as a liar. She showed a total lack of concern for her daughter and set the tone for the investigation. Going back and taking a second look at this day, knowing what we all know now, makes her seem even colder than she did then.
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Interesting...
From the Tone/Casey text messages linked above:
6:48 a.m.: ..... I need you
6:53 a.m.: Ive been filing reports all night and (I have been) driving around with multiple officers looking at old apartments I had taken her to. Everything.
6:59 a.m.: ..... What was I supposed to say?
7:01 a.m.: I was put in handcuffs for almost 10 minutes and (I) sat in the back of a cop car.
7:03 a.m. ....... I truly hope that you can forgive me..
7:13 a.m.: Yeah. Almost 12 hours of stuff. Finally (I am) getting a shower.
7:21 a.m.: If they don’t find her..guess who gets blamed and spends eternity in jail? (I get blamed.)
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Tony must have thought he was in the twilight zone. Here is someone who's daughter was 'kidnapped' and not once does she even feign concern for Caylee.
Spending eternity in jail seems to be whats on her mind....and rightfully so. I would like to add that jail should not be the only place she worries about spending eternity.
I would also like to add that I find her use of the word blamed, and admit interesting.
12 hours of 'stuff'...'finally' able to take a shower...
she disgusts me.
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I was thinking back yesterday to when Casey was released and she and Jose wanted the courts permission to 'visit' different places...of course it was denied.
I wonder where she was going to take Jose? Would they have eventually 'run into' Caylee's body? I don't think at that time Casey knew that LE could trace her pings and/or verify her calls..would she have said someone (the Nanny?) called and told her where to look?
I still get the impression that she felt like the police/Judge were like her parents...that she could plead her case and get off of her grounding/house arrest.
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ah BJames! great points here- (I love all our Jessica Fletchers, Nancy Drews, Hardy Boys, etc. that we have on board)
you may be on to what her next scheme was- likely she didn't consider pings, etc.
She had already given the "I just heard from my daughter today" and told everyone that would show up on her bill- lol
but maybe she was hoping to do exactly what you said- tell JB that hey- just heard from ZFG, she told me to go here- then that gives her and her atty the chance to notify LE omg! we just discovered her remains!!! (and from what the experts have said, she'd have been skeletonized already by then)
wouldn't put it past her-she seems so devious
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Good morning to all
Again Desmom, many thanks for your daily reflective posts from a year ago today.
In retrospect the police sure did move quickly in interviewing people in this case, almost by the time another lie came from Casey's mouth...LE had already interviewed/contacted the people she said were 'connected' in any way.
If I were LE I would question why this 'mother' had said she was conducting her own 'investigation'...yet she had not called any of these folks to speak to them about Caylee being 'missing'.
She either did not believe she would ever have to answer to the police..or she figured they would just believe her as her parents had done all of her life...?
I have no doubt that Casey blames Cindy for calling 911...and if push came to shove...Cindy now wishes that she hadn't called either.
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I wonder what would have happened if Casey had told them about Caylee. They had the car. Do you think they would have worked something out with Amy so she would not bring charges against Casey?
As good as this family is at inventing stories, I am sure they could have come up with one for what happened to Caylee.
I wonder???
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I was thinking back yesterday to when Casey was released and she and Jose wanted the courts permission to 'visit' different places...of course it was denied.
I wonder where she was going to take Jose? Would they have eventually 'run into' Caylee's body? I don't think at that time Casey knew that LE could trace her pings and/or verify her calls..would she have said someone (the Nanny?) called and told her where to look?
I still get the impression that she felt like the police/Judge were like her parents...that she could plead her case and get off of her grounding/house arrest.
In so many ways Casey shows the maturity level of a teenager, maybe because she never had any consequences during that period of her life....so she never truly 'grew up'.
I sooo agree that most folks didn't pursue her lying far enough to disprove her...it would have been too much work, and to what end really? By the time the first couple of lies were debunked she would have just been on to the next fifty...seriously...there wasn't much (if anything) about Casey's life that wasn't a lie.
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I completely agree with that. She is very adolescent in the way she goes about life in general.
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indeed- she was using her event planner skills having Cindy under her tutelage to later come in handy for Grams concert,
and *shock* while not having any trust in LE and can't call 911 when something happened to her daughter- was sure quick fingered to dial 911 as "the resident" to report the protesters.
It did give Baez ample time to bond with "his girl" tho.
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She sure was quick to call 911 and demand that someone go to jail. Yet when it was her daughter at stake she was "holding her own investigation", and singing praises about what a wonderful nanny she had, Zanny was rich, and a 10, she was loving to Caylee, bought everything she would need for Caylee so Casey wouldn't have to lug that stuff around, worked for free.... So I guess it was only out of the kindness of Casey's heart that she was paying her $400 dollars a week.
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I wonder what would have happened if Casey had told them about Caylee. They had the car. Do you think they would have worked something out with Amy so she would not bring charges against Casey?
As good as this family is at inventing stories, I am sure they could have come up with one for what happened to Caylee.
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Hi Julie- when you say "they" do you mean Casey's parents?
I can easily see them trying to bargain with Amy to not bring charges-
if I let my mind go there, yeah, okay, I guess the A's could say it was an accident or she "died" in her sleep and they all panicked and they are too poor to afford to pay for any funeral services so they just did a do-it-yourself gravesite for her on some undeveloped property that had meaning to Casey. They invented the nanny and kidnapping because they didn't want to be charged with illegal dumping, or some sort of bio-hazard EPA fines. <ick>
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July 16th 2008 was a very busy day for LE. Casey sent them on numerous wild goose chases to Sawgrass & Universal and she was exposed as a liar. She showed a total lack of concern for her daughter and set the tone for the investigation. Going back and taking a second look at this day, knowing what we all know now, makes her seem even colder than she did then.
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ITA!!! 
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Tony must have thought he was in the twilight zone. Here is someone who's daughter was 'kidnapped' and not once does she even feign concern for Caylee.
Spending eternity in jail seems to be whats on her mind....and rightfully so. I would like to add that jail should not be the only place she worries about spending eternity.
I would also like to add that I find her use of the word blamed, and admit interesting.
12 hours of 'stuff'...'finally' able to take a shower...
she disgusts me.
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I agree, what a very telling choice of words. Just like when she told LE," it's been a month... I'm running out of options."
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indeed- she was using her event planner skills having Cindy under her tutelage to later come in handy for Grams concert,
and *shock* while not having any trust in LE and can't call 911 when something happened to her daughter- was sure quick fingered to dial 911 as "the resident" to report the protesters.
It did give Baez ample time to bond with "his girl" tho.
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Well duh...your post made a light bulb go off..or maybe the coffee kicked in.
Of course Casey was an event planner. Some of the texts we have read in doc dumps are Casey "reaching out" to friends organizing plans for the weekend, composing and sending herself "work" related emails, dreaming up stories about "work" so Cindy would keep Caylee.
She was good at her job and then her workload increased in June 2008...she scheduled Zanny/Caylee trips to all the Parks, her "work" related conference in Tampa, "worked on becoming a family" in Jacksonville, "reached out" to friends to boost attendance at Fusians, scheduled appointments for tattoos and manicure, decorated and played hostess for July 4th party, supervised transportation for friends to and from the airport, cleaned their cars, interviewed perspective replacements and had them in the wings if needed (Will to replace Tone?), designed myspace/facebook pages for friends, supervised financial transactions......
Casey probably considered it a heck of a job promotion from her previous job:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18031958/detail.html
"I found a resume that my daughter had typed all the way to 2006, and my daughter showed that she was employed, which I know she was from 2004 to 2006, either through Universal or Colorvision (or another company). That I can verify. I know that because we've met these people that she worked with -- or my wife has -- I've talked to them over the phone," George Anthony said in the August interview. "At 2006, she wrote down -- or typed out in her nice resume -- nanny."
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Tone to Casey 7:04:35 Who is this zanny nanny person
that to me says it all. Her "boyfriend" that she loved sooo much had no idea who the Zanny person was.
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She sure was quick to call 911 and demand that someone go to jail. Yet when it was her daughter at stake she was "holding her own investigation", and singing praises about what a wonderful nanny she had, Zanny was rich, and a 10, she was loving to Caylee, bought everything she would need for Caylee so Casey wouldn't have to lug that stuff around, worked for free.... So I guess it was only out of the kindness of Casey's heart that she was paying her $400 dollars a week.
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She sure has a skewed way of looking at things- she's upset that she was arrested on some "*&%# whim" but darn those evil trespassers, they need to be jailed!
Amazing that just as you said- Zanny was perfect and then turns into a "psycho" when she's texting Tony.
It's boggling to know that not only did she invent imaginary friends and co-workers, etc. that she goes so far as to invent imaginary little playmates for her own daughter! She was snap happy with the camera, where are those pix of Caylee playing with these kids and the puppy?!!!
But to beat the band- she's got her own mother believing in all of her delusional fictitious jobs and friends- that is some incredible brain washing power she has- and she was able to get her family as willing members of the Cult of Casey- that they would give over property and money to her. Well, I'm sure she can get herself recognized as a tax exempt church of the CMA.
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I wonder what would have happened if Casey had told them about Caylee. They had the car. Do you think they would have worked something out with Amy so she would not bring charges against Casey?
As good as this family is at inventing stories, I am sure they could have come up with one for what happened to Caylee.
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I think if Casey told them the truth right away, they would have scraped together all the cash they could and send her away, then they could just tell everyone that Casey and Caylee moved out. I can see Cindy saying," Sorry Amy  this little psycho has done it before.  Don't worry I'll pay you back. I would tell you to press charges but that would just take Casey away from Caylee."
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Interesting...
From the Tone/Casey text messages linked above:
6:48 a.m.: ..... I need you
6:53 a.m.: Ive been filing reports all night and (I have been) driving around with multiple officers looking at old apartments I had taken her to. Everything.
6:59 a.m.: ..... What was I supposed to say?
7:01 a.m.: I was put in handcuffs for almost 10 minutes and (I) sat in the back of a cop car.
7:03 a.m. ....... I truly hope that you can forgive me..
7:13 a.m.: Yeah. Almost 12 hours of stuff. Finally (I am) getting a shower.
7:21 a.m.: If they don’t find her..guess who gets blamed and spends eternity in jail? (I get blamed.)
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Good morning everyone! Desmom, you've worked hard on today's "a year ago today" summary of info. Thanks!
This also got my attention, about how Casey seemed to want to not really answer tony's questions, but instead wanted to turn the conversation into what "Casey" was experiencing. Creepy.
How do you suppose Casey is feeding his need for attention, while being held in protective custody? Is she starving for attention? Or would the jailer feed her just enough attention to "maintain" her?
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Well duh...your post made a light bulb go off..or maybe the coffee kicked in.
Of course Casey was an event planner. Some of the texts we have read in doc dumps are Casey "reaching out" to friends organizing plans for the weekend, composing and sending herself "work" related emails, dreaming up stories about "work" so Cindy would keep Caylee.
She was good at her job and then her workload increased in June 2008...she scheduled Zanny/Caylee trips to all the Parks, her "work" related conference in Tampa, "worked on becoming a family" in Jacksonville, "reached out" to friends to boost attendance at Fusians, scheduled appointments for tattoos and manicure, decorated and played hostess for July 4th party, supervised transportation for friends to and from the airport, cleaned their cars, interviewed perspective replacements and had them in the wings if needed (Will to replace Tone?), designed myspace/facebook pages for friends, supervised financial transactions......
Casey probably considered it a heck of a job promotion from her previous job:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18031958/detail.html
"I found a resume that my daughter had typed all the way to 2006, and my daughter showed that she was employed, which I know she was from 2004 to 2006, either through Universal or Colorvision (or another company). That I can verify. I know that because we've met these people that she worked with -- or my wife has -- I've talked to them over the phone," George Anthony said in the August interview. "At 2006, she wrote down -- or typed out in her nice resume -- nanny."
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So she was really a freelance, pro bono, scraping up enough for her bar tab, kind of event planner... Oh, I see.  As for her saying she was a nanny, I believe that is how she looked at spending time with Caylee, except she couldn't quit or walk away because Caylee was her meal ticket. If Cindy had custody of Caylee there was no reason to keep supporting Casey financially. She reminds of one of those people who, when watching their own child, says things like," I can't go... I'm babysitting." In my mind you can't babysit your own child... It's called parenting....
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She sure has a skewed way of looking at things- she's upset that she was arrested on some "*&%# whim" but darn those evil trespassers, they need to be jailed!
Amazing that just as you said- Zanny was perfect and then turns into a "psycho" when she's texting Tony.
It's boggling to know that not only did she invent imaginary friends and co-workers, etc. that she goes so far as to invent imaginary little playmates for her own daughter! She was snap happy with the camera, where are those pix of Caylee playing with these kids and the puppy?!!!
But to beat the band- she's got her own mother believing in all of her delusional fictitious jobs and friends- that is some incredible brain washing power she has- and she was able to get her family as willing members of the Cult of Casey- that they would give over property and money to her. Well, I'm sure she can get herself recognized as a tax exempt church of the CMA.
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Excellent point. She was constantly taking pictures. The kicker? The apartment she's been telling George and Cindy was Zanny's is really Ricardos. That is a priceless moment in the jail house video when Cindy asks,"that apartment with the drumset... Who's apartment is that?" And as Casey's about to answer (probably lie and say it was Zanny's) Cindy cuts her off and says," because I know whose apartment it is." Casey (albeit begrudgingly) says," That's Ricardos apartment. But Zanny's apartment is set up exactly the same and she has a drum set too." It's really hard to not think G&C are either the stupidest people in the world, or up to their eyeballs in the cover-up. Denial only goes so far.
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Hi Julie- when you say "they" do you mean Casey's parents?
I can easily see them trying to bargain with Amy to not bring charges-
if I let my mind go there, yeah, okay, I guess the A's could say it was an accident or she "died" in her sleep and they all panicked and they are too poor to afford to pay for any funeral services so they just did a do-it-yourself gravesite for her on some undeveloped property that had meaning to Casey. They invented the nanny and kidnapping because they didn't want to be charged with illegal dumping, or some sort of bio-hazard EPA fines. <ick>
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Yes, "they" are the Anthony's....I submitted that before I re-read it.
I believe Cindy is sorry she ever called 911 and started the ball rolling...I just wonder what she would have done if Casey would have told her the truth at the beginning..........or if Casey did tell her and Desmom's talents lays out for us what she "would do".
I sometime play little mind games with myself.
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Well duh...your post made a light bulb go off..or maybe the coffee kicked in.
Of course Casey was an event planner. Some of the texts we have read in doc dumps are Casey "reaching out" to friends organizing plans for the weekend, composing and sending herself "work" related emails, dreaming up stories about "work" so Cindy would keep Caylee.
She was good at her job and then her workload increased in June 2008...she scheduled Zanny/Caylee trips to all the Parks, her "work" related conference in Tampa, "worked on becoming a family" in Jacksonville, "reached out" to friends to boost attendance at Fusians, scheduled appointments for tattoos and manicure, decorated and played hostess for July 4th party, supervised transportation for friends to and from the airport, cleaned their cars, interviewed perspective replacements and had them in the wings if needed (Will to replace Tone?), designed myspace/facebook pages for friends, supervised financial transactions......
Casey probably considered it a heck of a job promotion from her previous job:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18031958/detail.html
"I found a resume that my daughter had typed all the way to 2006, and my daughter showed that she was employed, which I know she was from 2004 to 2006, either through Universal or Colorvision (or another company). That I can verify. I know that because we've met these people that she worked with -- or my wife has -- I've talked to them over the phone," George Anthony said in the August interview. "At 2006, she wrote down -- or typed out in her nice resume -- nanny."
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ooh thanks desmom! I had completely forgotten this little bit from George!
I know it's been discussed before- but it really is sinking in- there were 2 and only 2 "nannies" in Caylee's life- her own mother, and her grandma.
Casey would use the term "nanny" to her friends when she just didn't want to say "grandma" - gives her more prestige if you will. That, and most people would say things like- wow, you must have a really amazing mom to always be at your disposal to watch your kid any time you want-
that would give attention, praise or sympathy to her mom from others- which she probably didn't want- the focus and spotlight must remain on Casey.
She'd tell her parents the "nanny" when she either didn't want them to know she was taking Caylee with her to adult party functions, or when she was going out to run the streets during the day before her social life started.
Maybe she never truly felt like a mom to Caylee, and more like a surrogate since Cindy was so involved- maybe she'd pretend play with Caylee and the times she took her to the park, etc. she'd tell Caylee- pretend I'm your nanny when Caylee's verbal skills got a bit better.
She never needed to invent an additional nanny (outside herself/g'ma) until the Grunds told her they could no longer do the babysitting.
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My favorite line of the article.....
"If you have a strong constitution and enjoy watching people commit hari kari on air you can listen to the recording here."
I listened to the interview when it aired last night and he was a very good caller. I also liked the caller that said,"are you Michelle Bart?" then proceeded to ask her how she could get into her(MB's) racket lol and told MB she thought she could do it better.
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