Monday, July 13, 2009

[desmom]

One year ago today...July 13, 2008

Ricardo, Amy and Troy were in Puerto Rico. Casey was driving Amy’s car.

George and Cindy find the notice re: certified letter on the door.
Page 21 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...%20anthony.pdf

Casey’s cell phone records
Pages 57 – 58 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/...rds_615_to_716

Lee’s receipt list:
Page 198 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media...9/42528488.pdf
7/13 Waterford “Hellboy 2” 5:10 p.m. $8.00

No text messages in doc dumps between Amy and Casey.

Casey’s incoming text messages July 13, 2008
Pages 17 – 18 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2811460/...sed-Nov-26-012

Simon Burch noticed a smell coming from the Pontiac when he was doing rounds. On a scale of 1 – 10, Mr. Burch rated it a 7. It wasn’t like the car they had before that belonged to a suicide victim, but similar.
Page 13 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...Simon-0724.pdf

[spiritwolf46]

Thanks again, Desmom, for all of these updates! Much appreciated!

I was going through the phone docs again and isn't it strange how Casey seemed to keep Jesse in her life with calls and texts, but could not trust him?

THAT will be in the trial and I cannot wait! I just hope that it will completely clear any and all of the horrible things that the A family has said against that young man! He never deserved the carp that he got.

[desmom]

From Lee's receipt lists
page 198 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media...9/42528488.pdf

6/28 Waterford "Wanted' 7:15 p.m. $16.00

7/7 Waterford "Hancock" 8:00 p.m. $8.00

7/13 Waterford "Hellboy 2" 5:10 p.m. $8.00

$16.00 would be 2 tickets? We rent, so I have no idea.

Did Casey go to the movies alone on 7/7 (Monday) and 7/13 (Sunday)? I do not recall any of the witness statements mentioning the movies.

jmo

[Sun]

Originally Posted by spiritwolf46

Thanks again, Desmom, for all of these updates! Much appreciated!

I was going through the phone docs again and isn't it strange how Casey seemed to keep Jesse in her life with calls and texts, but could not trust him?

THAT will be in the trial and I cannot wait! I just hope that it will completely clear any and all of the horrible things that the A family has said against that young man! He never deserved the carp that he got.

It's been so long since I've looked at the phone docs. Did Casey call/txtmsg Jesse about as much as he would call/txtmsg her?

[spiritwolf46]

Originally Posted by Sun

It's been so long since I've looked at the phone docs. Did Casey call/txtmsg Jesse about as much as he would call/txtmsg her?

Good morning, Sun.

I am not sure that I completely understand the question, sorry.

I was just going through the cell phone records that Desmom provided above and saw that she was still keeping Jesse in her life, even though hes was not to be trusted (according to her and her jail video with Cindy).

ETA: OH! I get it! Shhheeeeeeze! I need more coffee this morning! Not too sure about that, Sun, for I did not pay attention to the time frames. Just that she was still keeping him in her life.

[Sun]

Thanks desmom for this link. While I've re-listened to many of the audios/videos, I decided this morning to read this one (sometimes the transcripts are more complete).

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...%20anthony.pdf

Cindy seemed so obsessed with trying to get LE/FBI to look in all directions except the direction of Casey. ...I still remember that last 911 call that Cindy made (and she only made it after she was told that someone took Caylee). In other words, it was when Cindy felt that she could place the blame on someone other than Casey.

And Cindy expects LE/FBI to keep her informed after they look into the tips. She can't seem to understand that it is their investigation, and that she is NOT in control of it.

[margaritaville]

Originally Posted by desmom

From Lee's receipt lists
page 198 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media...9/42528488.pdf

6/28 Waterford "Wanted' 7:15 p.m. $16.00

7/7 Waterford "Hancock" 8:00 p.m. $8.00

7/13 Waterford "Hellboy 2" 5:10 p.m. $8.00

$16.00 would be 2 tickets? We rent, so I have no idea.

Did Casey go to the movies alone on 7/7 (Monday) and 7/13 (Sunday)? I do not recall any of the witness statements mentioning the movies.
jmo

bolding mine:

She was probably with Zanny the invisible nanny. Only needed the one ticket and they both could get in........

[desmom]

Originally Posted by Sun

HaHa... I've given my coffee maker a rest during these summer months, and doing without coffee is bad. Real bad for me. I've promised myself coffee in the mornings, just as soon as the weather turns cooler this Fall.

Jesse had a soft spot in his heart for Casey/Caylee. Jesse once said that Casey was a chamelion, and I believe he knew her better than most.

bolding mine

I agree Sun. I also believe Jesse knows Casey secrets she does not want to come out in the public. Casey was afraid Jesse would share those secrets with G & C.

Remember this....

Page 21 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...sse01-0717.pdf

EE: And the 3rd?

JG: I received a text message from Casey. The text message specifically said uhm, “There’s something going on with my family right now. If my, if my mom tries to call you don’t say anything. Stay out of it. I’ll take care of it.” Something along those lines. Uhm, there was no reason for her parents to contact me. Uh, as far as I know they don’t have my contact information and uhm, uh, I tried calling her multiple times to find out what was going on. At one point she called me back, left a voicemail uh, which just specifically said, “Something going on. If my family tries to call you don’t say anything to them. Uhm, you have anything to say but don’t say anything to them. Uhm, I’ll tell you about it later,” and then left a voicemail and that was it. Uhm…


page 25

I received a phone call from Casey from her cell phone, uhm, at 3:17 p.m., at which time uh, she asked me, the first question she asked me, what am I doing for the Fourth of July, which I told her I was spending the day with my family. And I asked her about the text message she sent me the day before. Uhm, her exact words to me were uhm, “I don’t want to talk about it.” Uhm, “If I, uh, I’ll probably talk to you about it later once I get drunk.”


Jesse would have probably honored Casey's wishes to a point. When Caylee went missing, Jesse knew he could no longer keep Casey's secrets. IMO, he shared everything with LE and I think we have only seen a small portion of what Jesse knows about Casey.

[Sun]

I can't recall, but has Baez ever deposed JG?

[desmom]

Originally Posted by Sun

It's been so long since I've looked at the phone docs. Did Casey call/txtmsg Jesse about as much as he would call/txtmsg her?

From looking at http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/...rds_615_to_716 there were quite a few communications between the two of them. IMO, the majority of the contacts were initiated by Casey and Jesse would then return the call/text.

[gaelicpeas]

Good morning, and thanks for the links, Des!

That link you put up about the certified letter also confirms that July 14 was George's first day at work (something a couple of us were looking for the other day). It is on the same page 21, line 17:

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...%20anthony.pdf

[spiritwolf46]

Originally Posted by Sun

HaHa... I've given my coffee maker a rest during these summer months, and doing without coffee is bad. Real bad for me. I've promised myself coffee in the mornings, just as soon as the weather turns cooler this Fall.

Jesse had a soft spot in his heart for Casey/Caylee. Jesse once said that Casey was a chamelion, and I believe he knew her better than most.

He sure did have a soft spot for Casey and Caylee! Typical of Casey to keep him "around" but then throw him under the bus afterwards.

[Sun]

Originally Posted by gaelicpeas

Good morning, and thanks for the links, Des!

That link you put up about the certified letter also confirms that July 14 was George's first day at work (something a couple of us were looking for the other day). It is on the same page 21, line 17:

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...%20anthony.pdf

Thanks for pointing this out. Makes you wonder why George seemed so evasive about the fact that he had no job from July 1 through July 13, or at least wasn't working during that timeframe.

And I really wonder about just how many days/hours that he worked in June, as he neared the end of this job. I recall him saying that he worked June 30th, but how many companies schedule a "last day of work" on a Monday? Am I thinking this is odd?

[desmom]

Several posters have asked why no one noticed the smell in Casey's car. I think Mr. Burch explains it pretty well. jmo

Simon Burch's interview with LE:
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...Simon-0724.pdf

page 6 line 13
I walked around to the driver’s side with him and he put the key in and opened the driver’s side door. And when he did the, the, the smell was pungent. I mean it was, it knocked me back. It knocked me back.

page 7 beginning on line 25
And uh, we open the trunk up and there was flies and stuff and a real bad smell like oh, my God. And, and in the back of my head I’m going that isn’t rotten garbage. You know I know what rotten garbage smells like. That doesn’t smell like rotten garbage to me.

page 12 beginning on line 19
I was kind of half expecting it to smell bad because I had already observed an odor around it….…the couple of days earlier when I’d been out in the yard doing my rounds and checking on it. Uhm, but until we opened the car it didn’t have that……deceased smell.

Mr. Burch talking about the other car they had at one time that involved a suicide.
beginning on page 13 line 22
It was awful, oh, it, I had to move it out of the yard. It would, we had it up here in the barn in here and uh, you could smell it in here. They did the investigation on it and I took it out of the building and I took it out of the yard, out of our impound area and put it in our outside impound area….…away from everything. Uhm, and then it got, the smell got better with time. I left the doors open on a few, for a few days uhm….Let the air (unintelligible) uh, and then close the doors. And it got to the point where you couldn’t smell the, like unless you were right up against it you couldn’t smell it anymore uhm, until you opened the car.

[spiritwolf46]

VERY respectfully snipped

Originally Posted by desmom

Mr. Burch talking about the other car they had at one time that involved a suicide.
beginning on page 13 line 22
It was awful, oh, it, I had to move it out of the yard. It would, we had it up here in the barn in here and uh, you could smell it in here. They did the investigation on it and I took it out of the building and I took it out of the yard, out of our impound area and put it in our outside impound area….…away from everything. Uhm, and then it got, the smell got better with time. I left the doors open on a few, for a few days uhm….Let the air (unintelligible) uh, and then close the doors. And it got to the point where you couldn’t smell the, like unless you were right up against it you couldn’t smell it anymore uhm, until you opened the car.

Thank you, Desmom. This kind of makes your stomach churn, doesn't it? That horrible momster of Caylee's could not have cared less about the smell of her dead child or the possible fact that she was in that trunk for a few days. As long as she could get to where she was going, to do whatever she wanted to do, without her child, then the smell didn't bother her. ONLY if she had to make excuses to someone about it (i.e. dead squirrels!)

[desmom]

Originally Posted by margaritaville

Anyone ever wonder how different this case could have been if it wasn't for Lee Anthony being called to go to the house?

Lee made Casey think about what the police are going to say to her and then the "kidnapping" version was created... IMHO

--snipped--

Cindy had Casey in "custody". I don't think Cindy would have backed down from seeing Caylee because

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,5568332.story

Cindy Anthony: 'Cause my next thing will be down to child (inaudible) thing and we'll have a court order to get her. If that's the way you want to play, we'll do it and you'll never. . .

Casey Anthony: That's not the way I want to play. . .

Cindy Anthony: Well then you have. . .

Casey Anthony: Give me one more day.

Cindy Anthony: No, I'm not giving you another day, I've given you a month. . .


jmo

G'morning everyone.

Well stated, Des. You're right. Cindy had Casey in 'custody', finally. She questioned and ranted to her for a very, very long time while driving around after finding her at TonE's.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by spiritwolf46

He sure did have a soft spot for Casey and Caylee! Typical of Casey to keep him "around" but then throw him under the bus afterwards.

Yep, I think he still loved her so he was at her beck and call.

[desmom]

Originally Posted by msgatorslayer

G'morning everyone.

Well stated, Des. You're right. Cindy had Casey in 'custody', finally. She questioned and ranted to her for a very, very long time while driving around after finding her at TonE's.

If Lee had not shown up and got Casey to lie..I mean talk, would this have turned into a physical altercation?

After seeing Cindy in action with the protesters and reporters (ETA ~ and the depo ), I vote yes.

jmo

[Sun]

The neighbor's testimony that he saw Casey's car facing in the unusual position of being "backed in" to the driveway, after June 16th is powerful, coupled with the car evidence. That is an eyewitness. It was Brian Burner, wasn't it? The same person that Casey borrowed a shovel from, right? The neighbor that has a son that George talked to about his missing gas cans, right?

[Sun]

Originally Posted by desmom

If Lee had not shown up and got Casey to lie..I mean talk, would this have turned into a physical altercation?

After seeing Cindy in action with the protesters and reporters (ETA ~ and the depo ), I vote yes.

jmo

George sent Lee to the house because he was worried about Cindy. Cindy does seem to be to be the type to just "lose it physically" on top of using her mouth. Her actions/words towards Tim Miller and LE is a good measure of how Cindy is. Sadly we'll be hearing much much more out of Cindy's mouth before Casey's conviction.

[Anakerie]

Originally Posted by Sun

Thanks for pointing this out. Makes you wonder why George seemed so evasive about the fact that he had no job from July 1 through July 13, or at least wasn't working during that timeframe.

And I really wonder about just how many days/hours that he worked in June, as he neared the end of this job. I recall him saying that he worked June 30th, but how many companies schedule a "last day of work" on a Monday? Am I thinking this is odd?

About the last day of work question.. Monday being the last day wouldn't be that odd if he was working security... Security companies don't do the Monday through Friday thing because its a 24/7 operation usually. I worked for a security company years ago and my "weekends" were never on Saturday/Sunday.. George's "weekend" could have been Tuesday/Wednesday so Monday would have been his "Friday", therefore the end of his week...

Holy cow.. I just read what I wrote up there... Confusing.. lol..

[margaritaville]

Originally Posted by Sun

George sent Lee to the house because he was worried about Cindy. Cindy does seem to be to be the type to just "lose it physically" on top of using her mouth. Her actions/words towards Tim Miller and LE is a good measure of how Cindy is. Sadly we'll be hearing much much more out of Cindy's mouth before Casey's conviction.

You are right! Why was GA worried about Cindy? Because he didn't want her to do something stupid? He already had the car, he smelled the smell. He told the police that he was worried he would find either Casey or Caylee in there. Cindy calls him and tells him she has Casey but no Caylee. he then calls Lee to come over...Why?????
IMHO because at that point, he knows Caylee is gone...In fact, I think he knew prior to Cindy finding Casey.
He stayed away from the entire thing by going to work.(after smelling the car that he admitted to the police smelled like human decomp.)
That is Fishy to me!!
He wanted to stay out of it.......when was it that George and Cindy dug up their backyard?? That day? the next day??


MOO

[desmom]

Originally Posted by Sun

The neighbor's testimony that he saw Casey's car facing in the unusual position of being "backed in" to the driveway, after June 16th is powerful, coupled with the car evidence. That is an eyewitness. It was Brian Burner, wasn't it? The same person that Casey borrowed a shovel from, right? The neighbor that has a son that George talked to about his missing gas cans, right?

Yep Brian Burner, and he saw it backed in more than once.

Brian Burner 7/30 interview http://cayleeanthony.files.wordpress...urner-7-30.pdf

June 17 - Brian Burner saw Casey back her car into the garage. Page 5

June 18 or 19 - Casey borrowed a shovel from Brian Burner at approximately 1:30 p.m. Casey’s car was backed into the garage. She returned the shovel around 2:30 p.m. Pages 6 – 7

June 20 - Brian Burner sees Casey’s car backed into the garage. Page 19

jmo

[Sun]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sun
The neighbor's testimony that he saw Casey's car facing in the unusual position of being "backed in" to the driveway, after June 16th is powerful, coupled with the car evidence. That is an eyewitness. It was Brian Burner, wasn't it? The same person that Casey borrowed a shovel from, right? The neighbor that has a son that George talked to about his missing gas cans, right?

Originally Posted by Rapunzel

Yes, it was Brian Burner.

I wonder how George and Cindy feel living next door to BB, knowing that his testimony is going to be harmful to Casey's defense?

[Tia]

Originally Posted by Sun

Decomp simmering in a closed up car under the hot Florida sun.... I get it. Cindy wants to create doubt, Mr. Burch pretty much sums it up. The foul air escaped from the car when it was unlocked and the door opened up. Not much way for foul air to escape from the trunk or inside of the car with the windows up, trunk and doors locked.

In the old days, kids would die in car trunks because they got themselves locked in.... eventually dying of heat exhaustion or lack of oxygen.

Cindy won't get far with a Jury on this detail. She makes no sense.

This is why Casey will never walk free. Once Mr. Burch testifies to the odor of the car-and explains how terrible it was-who is going to buy Cindy's "rotting pizza" defense??!

Originally Posted by Sun

George sent Lee to the house because he was worried about Cindy. Cindy does seem to be to be the type to just "lose it physically" on top of using her mouth. Her actions/words towards Tim Miller and LE is a good measure of how Cindy is. Sadly we'll be hearing much much more out of Cindy's mouth before Casey's conviction.

I agree there is no telling how this would have all ended had Cindy been alone with Casey. I too think it would have gotten to a physical altercation.

As for me, I do hope G & C continue to spin their lies in the media. It's only a matter of time before they once again get caught saying something they wish they hadn't. Their lies will only hurt the defense and Casey.

[Sun]

Originally Posted by margaritaville

You are right! Why was GA worried about Cindy? Because he didn't want her to do something stupid? He already had the car, he smelled the smell. He told the police that he was worried he would find either Casey or Caylee in there. Cindy calls him and tells him she has Casey but no Caylee. he then calls Lee to come over...Why?????
IMHO because at that point, he knows Caylee is gone...In fact, I think he knew prior to Cindy finding Casey.
He stayed away from the entire thing by going to work.(after smelling the car that he admitted to the police smelled like human decomp.)
That is Fishy to me!!
He wanted to stay out of it.......when was it that George and Cindy dug up their backyard?? That day? the next day??


MOO

I think that Cindy was in a Red Zone, from the time she had to pay the towyard for the impound fees. George knew it. George said that he went to work on July 15th after driving the car home. Did he go to escape from Cindy's wrath, or did he go because she ordered him to go?

[desmom]

Originally Posted by margaritaville

You are right! Why was GA worried about Cindy? Because he didn't want her to do something stupid? He already had the car, he smelled the smell. He told the police that he was worried he would find either Casey or Caylee in there. Cindy calls him and tells him she has Casey but no Caylee. he then calls Lee to come over...Why?????
IMHO because at that point, he knows Caylee is gone...In fact, I think he knew prior to Cindy finding Casey.
He stayed away from the entire thing by going to work.(after smelling the car that he admitted to the police smelled like human decomp.)
That is Fishy to me!!
He wanted to stay out of it.......when was it that George and Cindy dug up their backyard?? That day? the next day??


MOO

O and "just in case someone came home to try to get the car we took the battery out of it. Never know."

When LE asked "someone being", Cindy said, "I don't know anybody. I have no idea, I'm not, I don't wanna speculate on something I don't know but that's our thought was. "

(quotes from page 22 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...;20anthony.pdf )

Now who could that someone be?

did george really steal the money that was ment for tim? I would not doubt it. I think the whole a;s family had a prob.with stealing and lying to everone I don;t think they can tell the truth about anything. They have so many family sec.and it seems they steal from everyone. no wonder they have no friends people don;t want to be around people that steal and lie. I sure will not believe anything they all say in court on the stand. I just hope we have a good da to catch them in all the lies and maybe some of the stealing will come up to. I think they should all be in jail. I think george wias gaming and going with other women. now cindy I dont really thinks she was a saint eather. we know casey was stealing and lieing and sleeping with ever one she could get in bed with. casey did not care about any of these boys. she was just useing them. george is lazy and so is casey. cindy love to spend money to. I guess lee is the same way because he sure does lie. Jmho

[margaritaville]

Originally Posted by desmom

O and "just in case someone came home to try to get the car we took the battery out of it. Never know."

When LE asked "someone being", Cindy said, "I don't know anybody. I have no idea, I'm not, I don't wanna speculate on something I don't know but that's our thought was. "

(quotes from page 22 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...;20anthony.pdf )

Now who could that someone be?

LOL- have they had many cars disappear from their garage in the past?
I wonder how many police reports there are of cars being stolen from their garage? LOL
She is a real piece, isn't she?

MOO

[Sun]

Originally Posted by desmom

O and "just in case someone came home to try to get the car we took the battery out of it. Never know."

When LE asked "someone being", Cindy said, "I don't know anybody. I have no idea, I'm not, I don't wanna speculate on something I don't know but that's our thought was. "

(quotes from page 22 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...%20anthony.pdf )

Now who could that someone be?

The removal of the battery, along with the 911 call to report the car stolen, tells me that Cindy & George considered themselves owner of this car. Not Casey, even though that is Casey's position. Power struggle over car. Yep!

Can you imagine the same power struggle of Caylee?

[happygert]

Originally Posted by desmom

If Lee had not shown up and got Casey to lie..I mean talk, would this have turned into a physical altercation?

After seeing Cindy in action with the protesters and reporters (ETA ~ and the depo ), I vote yes.

jmo

Desmom.. since you have a great memory, have a question for you.. Do you remember where either g or c said g was a deputy sheriff , then they said he was a homicide detective?. Thanks gert.

[JHP]

Originally Posted by martha

did george really steal the money that was ment for tim? I would not doubt it. I think the whole a;s family had a prob.with stealing and lying to everone I don;t think they can tell the truth about anything. They have so many family sec.and it seems they steal from everyone. no wonder they have no friends people don;t want to be around people that steal and lie. I sure will not believe anything they all say in court on the stand. I just hope we have a good da to catch them in all the lies and maybe some of the stealing will come up to. I think they should all be in jail. I think george wias gaming and going with other women. now cindy I dont really thinks she was a saint eather. we know casey was stealing and lieing and sleeping with ever one she could get in bed with. casey did not care about any of these boys. she was just useing them. george is lazy and so is casey. cindy love to spend money to. I guess lee is the same way because he sure does lie. Jmho

You know I've often wondered if it was only Casey that was stealing from Grandma. I wonder if Cindy was doing some of that too. Or if Cindy was giving Casey permission to take it.

Originally Posted by desmom

One year ago today...July 13, 2008

Ricardo, Amy and Troy were in Puerto Rico. Casey was driving Amy’s car.

George and Cindy find the notice re: certified letter on the door.
Page 21 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...%20anthony.pdf

Casey’s cell phone records
Pages 57 – 58 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/...rds_615_to_716

Lee’s receipt list:
Page 198 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media...9/42528488.pdf
7/13 Waterford “Hellboy 2” 5:10 p.m. $8.00

No text messages in doc dumps between Amy and Casey.

Casey’s incoming text messages July 13, 2008
Pages 17 – 18 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2811460/...sed-Nov-26-012

Simon Burch noticed a smell coming from the Pontiac when he was doing rounds. On a scale of 1 – 10, Mr. Burch rated it a 7. It wasn’t like the car they had before that belonged to a suicide victim, but similar.
Page 13 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...Simon-0724.pdf

Bolding mine....

Good morning, everyone!

Wouldn't that have been interesting if Simon Burch would have called LE regarding the smell coming from the car? I wonder how much more evidence they would have against Casey? This whole case would have looked a whole lot different, and I wonder if we would have gotten a confession/plea deal almost from the get go? I highly doubt there would now be a CMA foundation as well...

Originally Posted by spiritwolf46

He sure did have a soft spot for Casey and Caylee! Typical of Casey to keep him "around" but then throw him under the bus afterwards.

Yep, you're right, typical Casey. She uses people when she needs them and then discards them when she done.

[margaritaville]

Originally Posted by Rapunzel

Sorry, not desmom...but I did some research on this the other day and yes he was a deputy sheriff and homicide detective...scary isn't it???
That a homicide detective would know there was a dead body in that car and then help destroy evidence and later say it was just garbage after his initial statement that it smelled like a dead body along with his decomposition nurse wife and the tow yard guy and Yuri-homicide detective...amazing!!!

I think his background in LE is the real reason he went "back to work" after bringing home the death car. He wanted to position himself away from the "cleaning and destroying of evidence"..
Left all that for Cindy to do and what were her excuses??? Oh she asked the detectives several times if they wanted the items she had removed from the car and they didn't want any of it...
yeah whatever!
moo

[crimeq]

Originally Posted by Rapunzel

Sorry, not desmom...but I did some research on this the other day and yes he was a deputy sheriff and homicide detective...scary isn't it???
That a homicide detective would know there was a dead body in that car and then help destroy evidence and later say it was just garbage after his initial statement that it smelled like a dead body along with his decomposition nurse wife and the tow yard guy and Yuri-homicide detective...amazing!!!

And that a homicide detective would say on LKL that he didn't believe in the death penalty, period.

I bet when he was a practicing homicide detective he and his colleagues had lots of talks about wanting the death penalty.

But of course, that would be for different perps than his daughter.

Originally Posted by crimeq

And that a homicide detective would say on LKL that he didn't believe in the death penalty, period.

I bet when he was a practicing homicide detective he and his colleagues had lots of talks about wanting the death penalty.

But of course, that would be for different perps than his daughter.

If there really was a Zanny the nanny, and she really was responsible for Caylee's murder, I am sure The Anthony's would most definitely be pushing for the DP then. They just don't want it now because they know that Caylee's murderer is their very own daughter.

[alisa31235]

Originally Posted by Dells

If there really was a Zanny the nanny, and she really was responsible for Caylee's murder, I am sure The Anthony's would most definitely be pushing for the DP then. They just don't want it now because they know that Caylee's murderer is their very own daughter.

Exactly if they thought anyone else had done this we see a lot of Cindy ranting for us to get off our a$$ abd look IMO