Thursday, June 25, 2009 #1

desmom · #1 06-25-2009, 07:45 AM

One year ago today.....June 25, 2008

Amy stated it was around this date that Casey told her about a horrible smell in her car during a phone call.
Page 16 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...23,%202008.pdf

Text Messages between Casey and Amy http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/...-Text-Messages

Amy to Casey: I’ll do it tom. . . I'm lazy now.

Casey to Amy 06/25 9:08 p.m.: Me too!

Amy to Casey: On Sat want to go to storage with me to make a game plan?

AH KC 06/25 9:09 p.m.: What time Saturday?

Casey’s cell phone records: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/...rds_615_to_716

AMS · #2 06-25-2009, 08:14 AM

Good morning desmom. So Casey was feeling lazy. Imagine that?

imo

Scampi · #3 06-25-2009, 08:17 AM

Good morning everyone. The one common thread among all the anthonys, is their callous disregard to the odor in that car.

IMO, it truly takes a malignant heart to actually continue to drive a car in which the awful odor is from the decomposing body of your daughter. I believe the Prosecutors will point this fact out to the jury.

Lee Anthony got the giggles, everytime he spoke of the odor and George and Cindy were able to go back to their jobs after being exposed to it.

Poor Caylee.

Myka · #4 06-25-2009, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmom

One year ago today.....June 25, 2008

Amy stated it was around this date that Casey told her about a horrible smell in her car during a phone call.
Page 16 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...23,%202008.pdf

Text Messages between Casey and Amy http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/...-Text-Messages

Amy to Casey: I’ll do it tom. . . I'm lazy now.

Casey to Amy 06/25 9:08 p.m.: Me too!

Amy to Casey: On Sat want to go to storage with me to make a game plan?

AH KC 06/25 9:09 p.m.: What time Saturday?

Casey’s cell phone records: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/...rds_615_to_716

did Amy ever ride in the car with Casey?

desmom · #5 06-25-2009, 08:39 AM

pages 11 - 12 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/...rds_615_to_716

Casey and Cindy play phone tag around 8:00 a.m.

From 8:09 - 12:52 no incoming or outgoing calls when Casey started playing phone tag with Mark Hawkins for the next 5 minutes.

13:36 - 14:18 - Casey calls her voice mail, Lexus Dealer 3 X (1 call 4 minutes), Cindy's cell, Amy 2 X (1 call 20 minutes)

15:04 - 15:15 - Casey and Jenna (girl from Fusians' - I think) text back and forth.

18:26 Casey calls an 866 number. I did some googling and several sites reported this an AT&T prompt "balance is past due" no service. The call was 2 minutes. Casey must have been able to convince the AT&T customer service rep, the check is in the mail because at

18:36 she called Cindy's cell for almost 15 minutes.

21:03 - 21:08 - text messages between Amy and Casey.

21:11 - Casey called the A residence for 4 minutes.

21:54 Mark Hawkins called Casey, Casey called her voicemail.

Casey is playing house full-time with Tone. Tone said he usually did not get home from class until 1:30 - 2:00 p.m. (13:30 - 14:00)

jmo

Myka · #6 06-25-2009, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scampi

Good morning everyone. The one common thread among all the anthonys, is their callous disregard to the odor in that car.

IMO, it truly takes a malignant heart to actually continue to drive a car in which the awful odor is from the decomposing body of your daughter. I believe the Prosecutors will point this fact out to the jury.

Lee Anthony got the giggles, everytime he spoke of the odor and George and Cindy were able to go back to their jobs after being exposed to it.

Poor Caylee.

early on, I felt sorry for Geo because he had to drive the car home from the impound yard and smell the death smell in the car.

Now, I don't feel sorry for him and I hope that smell haunts him for the rest of his life. I hope he wakes up every morning and recalls that day. I hope he thinks of that small and pukes every day, knowing that was poor little Caylee's decomp body

desmom · #7 06-25-2009, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scampi

Good morning everyone. The one common thread among all the anthonys, is their callous disregard to the odor in that car.

IMO, it truly takes a malignant heart to actually continue to drive a car in which the awful odor is from the decomposing body of your daughter. I believe the Prosecutors will point this fact out to the jury.

Lee Anthony got the giggles, everytime he spoke of the odor and George and Cindy were able to go back to their jobs after being exposed to it.

Poor Caylee.

The odor caught Casey off guard imo. I think she did try to clean up the fluids that was causing the odor. She thought she had succeeded until the next time she got in the car after it had sat with the windows up and baked in the hot FL sun.

I have witnessed that smell. I can't imagine anyone being able to drive that car knowing the cause of the smell and it not bothering them physically or emotionally.

jmo

Scampi · #8 06-25-2009, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka

early on, I felt sorry for Geo because he had to drive the car home from the impound yard and smell the death smell in the car.

Now, I don't feel sorry for him and I hope that smell haunts him for the rest of his life. I hope he wakes up every morning and recalls that day. I hope he thinks of that small and pukes every day, knowing that was poor little Caylee's decomp body

Apparently there was a small window of time, when both george and cindy revealed they knew exactly what the odor was and that is when they searched their own backyard. Even going as far as looking under Caylee's playhouse.

Then, soon after in my opinion, the coverup began. All this talk of a kidnapping nanny is total nonsense, when cindy and george picked up that car, that is the day they knew for sure Caylee was dead, imo.

desmom · #9 06-25-2009, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka

did Amy ever ride in the car with Casey?

Hmmm, I know she rode in Tone's car when Casey was driving his car while he was in NY. I am sure at one time or another she rode in Casey's car. IMO, it would have been before 6/16. Amy did not see much of Casey after she started dating Tone..well except when Tone went to NY and Casey had no where to stay.

Speaking of Casey having no where to stay when Tone went to NY...that speaks volumes to me about their relationship. If it was as serious as Casey hoped, wouldn't Tone allow her to stay there while he was out of state? I wonder how well she accepted that. Could this have been when Tone's apartment was burglarized? (page 12 http://www.wftv.com/_blank/18863600/detail.html )

jmo

AMS · #10 06-25-2009, 08:58 AM

Thinking about the smell makes my heart break. And then their ever-changing list of excuses for the smell like it was a game...

Justice for Caylee...

Imo

Myka · #11 06-25-2009, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scampi

Apparently there was a small window of time, when both george and cindy revealed they knew exactly what the odor was and that is when they searched their own backyard. Even going as far as looking under Caylee's playhouse.

Then, soon after in my opinion, the coverup began. All this talk of a kidnapping nanny is total nonsense, when cindy and george picked up that car, that is the day they knew for sure Caylee was dead, imo.

ITA Scampi,

as soon as they both smelled the car, the cover up began

trich · #12 06-25-2009, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scampi

Apparently there was a small window of time, when both george and cindy revealed they knew exactly what the odor was and that is when they searched their own backyard. Even going as far as looking under Caylee's playhouse.

Then, soon after in my opinion, the coverup began. All this talk of a kidnapping nanny is total nonsense, when cindy and george picked up that car, that is the day they knew for sure Caylee was dead, imo.

I hope the pros have a copy of Cindy telling the media she just was afraid when they opened the trunk they were going to find her daughter or grandaughter.

When she actually found Casey alive and well.....then they knew for sure and then she came up with the pizza (that was not there) story.
I would show that in the court room if I was the pros.

Myka · #13 06-25-2009, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmom

Hmmm, I know she rode in Tone's car when Casey was driving his car while he was in NY. I am sure at one time or another she rode in Casey's car. IMO, it would have been before 6/16. Amy did not see much of Casey after she started dating Tone..well except when Tone went to NY and Casey had no where to stay.

Speaking of Casey having no where to stay when Tone went to NY...that speaks volumes to me about their relationship. If it was as serious as Casey hoped, wouldn't Tone allow her to stay there while he was out of state? I wonder how well she accepted that. Could this have been when Tone's apartment was burglarized? (page 12 http://www.wftv.com/_blank/18863600/detail.html )

jmo

I wonder if Tone said the roommate didn't want Casey there while Tone was out of town?

Explorer · #14 06-25-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Myka

I wonder if Tone said the roommate didn't want Casey there while Tone was out of town?

I dont think Tone even liked her that much.

Explorer · #15 06-25-2009, 09:19 AM

Tone escaped her by the hair of his chinny chin chin.

cassidy · #16 06-25-2009, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scampi

Apparently there was a small window of time, when both george and cindy revealed they knew exactly what the odor was and that is when they searched their own backyard. Even going as far as looking under Caylee's playhouse.

Then, soon after in my opinion, the coverup began. All this talk of a kidnapping nanny is total nonsense, when cindy and george picked up that car, that is the day they knew for sure Caylee was dead, imo.

That 911 call from Cindy was probably her one unguarded truthful moment. Her voice was full of fear and panic. Once she got off the phone and started putting 2 & 2 together, the frantic back peddling began in earnest and hasn't stopped yet. IMO she knew that nite that Caylee was dead, it just took a few moments to realize that Casey had done it.

Explorer · #17 06-25-2009, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassidy

That 911 call from Cindy was probably her one unguarded truthful moment. Her voice was full of fear and panic. Once she got off the phone and started putting 2 & 2 together, the frantic back peddling began in earnest and hasn't stopped yet. IMO she knew that nite that Caylee was dead, it just took a few moments to realize that Casey had done it.

I believe that too. The 911 was genuine.

Explorer · #18 06-25-2009, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka

I wonder if Tone said the roommate didn't want Casey there while Tone was out of town?

I think Tone suspected that something wasnt right about her.

VII · #19 06-25-2009, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmom

The odor caught Casey off guard imo. I think she did try to clean up the fluids that was causing the odor. She thought she had succeeded until the next time she got in the car after it had sat with the windows up and baked in the hot FL sun.

I have witnessed that smell. I can't imagine anyone being able to drive that car knowing the cause of the smell and it not bothering them physically or emotionally.

jmo

and the infamous Target shopping trip ...
She purchases a mega pack of paper towels.
I can't see purchasing a mega pack for the boys (Tone) ...
I've wondered if she was going to use those to try and clean up the decomp.

7

Ladyhawk · #20 06-25-2009, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmom

Hmmm, I know she rode in Tone's car when Casey was driving his car while he was in NY. I am sure at one time or another she rode in Casey's car. IMO, it would have been before 6/16. Amy did not see much of Casey after she started dating Tone..well except when Tone went to NY and Casey had no where to stay.

Speaking of Casey having no where to stay when Tone went to NY...that speaks volumes to me about their relationship. If it was as serious as Casey hoped, wouldn't Tone allow her to stay there while he was out of state? I wonder how well she accepted that. Could this have been when Tone's apartment was burglarized? (page 12 http://www.wftv.com/_blank/18863600/detail.html )

jmo

IMO, Tone didn't want her there because he knew (on some level) what kind of a girl she was and he knew the guys he was living with so to avoid any problems between everyone, he opted for no Casey in the casa.
She would not have had a problem with it if Tone put it to her that he really didn't want her doing anything around the apartment for his roomies, just him, cause she was his girl, etc....as long as he fed her ego she would have been okay with anything he said.

apothecary · #21 06-25-2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka

early on, I felt sorry for Geo because he had to drive the car home from the impound yard and smell the death smell in the car.

Now, I don't feel sorry for him and I hope that smell haunts him for the rest of his life. I hope he wakes up every morning and recalls that day. I hope he thinks of that small and pukes every day, knowing that was poor little Caylee's decomp body

That goes double for me.I hope it haunts each one of them.They all smelled it.

*MoonRider* · #22 06-25-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Explorer

I believe that too. The 911 was genuine.

GM, Casey was genuine in her 911 call on 9/18/08 too.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17505002/index.html

Rapunzel · #23 06-25-2009, 09:39 AM

Morning Everyone.

Desmom thanks for the info and links...your the best.

It really makes a difference now a year later to realize and see what she was doing!!!

Stella Rose · #24 06-25-2009, 09:41 AM

Mornini all! Just popping in for a second - stupid work actually expects me to do something today.

So I went to the dentist yesterday and arrived a few minutes early. In the waiting room sat a little girl and her day. "Lorna" was, my hand to God, the spitting image of Caylee - she even had little (green) crocs on. Her hair, eyes... everything. I watched her play, smile, laugh, talk with her dad for a few minutes until I couldn't stand it anymore.

I thought of sweet Caylee, and how she never again would get to do those things. Never go to the dentist for her first teeth cleaning...

I was so shaken up, started to get teary... I told the receptionist I would be out in my car and to call me on the cell when they were ready for me.

Sorry for the novel here, but I know that only you all can understand how emotional it was. God knows everyone else probably would think I was certifiable.

Rapunzel · #25 06-25-2009, 09:42 AM

I agree that when C&G both smelled the car and knew it was the smell of decomposition and they found KC safe...it could only be one other person...Caylee...

kOOkie1 · #26 06-25-2009, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka

early on, I felt sorry for Geo because he had to drive the car home from the impound yard and smell the death smell in the car.

Now, I don't feel sorry for him and I hope that smell haunts him for the rest of his life. I hope he wakes up every morning and recalls that day. I hope he thinks of that small and pukes every day, knowing that was poor little Caylee's decomp body

Its just really sad they have made it to where we cant feel any compassion for them. The lose of their granddaughter..I feel for..but thats it. I have never understood how George could have gotten in that car after what he smelled. I dont understand why he didnt call 911 before leaving the impound lot.

margaritaville · #27 06-25-2009, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scampi

Apparently there was a small window of time, when both george and cindy revealed they knew exactly what the odor was and that is when they searched their own backyard. Even going as far as looking under Caylee's playhouse.

Then, soon after in my opinion, the coverup began. All this talk of a kidnapping nanny is total nonsense, when cindy and george picked up that car, that is the day they knew for sure Caylee was dead, imo.

Bolding mine:
ITA...... George even told LE he knew what that smell was.
And they must have known that Mother of the year was capable of murder or why search their own back yard??

If they had ever thought that Caylee was kidnapped, they would have been PLEADING for the "kidnapper" to bring her home... And that NEVER happened... They knew Caylee was dead.. Even Cindy's family told them Caylee was dead and Casey killed her..
What I can't figure out though is why the cover up?
Why are they protecting Casey??
I know she is their daughter and they love her, but why protect her and lie for her? That is the part I will never understand...NEVER!!!

AMS · #28 06-25-2009, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scampi

Apparently there was a small window of time, when both george and cindy revealed they knew exactly what the odor was and that is when they searched their own backyard. Even going as far as looking under Caylee's playhouse.

Then, soon after in my opinion, the coverup began. All this talk of a kidnapping nanny is total nonsense, when cindy and george picked up that car, that is the day they knew for sure Caylee was dead, imo.

Good morning - do you think the Ant's made up the story of the nanny?

imo

ellegna · #29 06-25-2009, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scampi

Apparently there was a small window of time, when both george and cindy revealed they knew exactly what the odor was and that is when they searched their own backyard. Even going as far as looking under Caylee's playhouse.

Then, soon after in my opinion, the coverup began. All this talk of a kidnapping nanny is total nonsense, when cindy and george picked up that car, that is the day they knew for sure Caylee was dead, imo.

Good morning

I have no doubt the A's knew from that moment at the tow yard Caylee was dead and the cover up began

If we could turn back time or hindsight was 20/20, can you imagine what the circumstances may have been
If the tow yard refused to allow the A's to leave the lot
If the tow yard called 911
If the police responded to the tow yard instead to the A's hours later

I can't even begin to imagine what could have been left in that trunk that would/could point directly at Casey

desmom · #30 06-25-2009, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka

I wonder if Tone said the roommate didn't want Casey there while Tone was out of town?

He went out of town also. His flight left before Tone's page 9 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5686811/...pt-Sept-8-2008

jmo

Rapunzel · #31 06-25-2009, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stella Rose

Mornini all! Just popping in for a second - stupid work actually expects me to do something today.

So I went to the dentist yesterday and arrived a few minutes early. In the waiting room sat a little girl and her day. "Lorna" was, my hand to God, the spitting image of Caylee - she even had little (green) crocs on. Her hair, eyes... everything. I watched her play, smile, laugh, talk with her dad for a few minutes until I couldn't stand it anymore.

I thought of sweet Caylee, and how she never again would get to do those things. Never go to the dentist for her first teeth cleaning...

I was so shaken up, started to get teary... I told the receptionist I would be out in my car and to call me on the cell when they were ready for me.

Sorry for the novel here, but I know that only you all can understand how emotional it was. God knows everyone else probably would think I was certifiable.

ITA Stella...I have also witnessed mommy's and little girls that look like Caylee...in a cart at the grocery store, crossing the street, in the doctors office...etc. and my mind always goes to HOW COULD ANYONE HARM A CHILD???
You have to be an evil sub human...or just people like KC I guess.
Caylee was never her daughter...she was a doll or toy to her, there was no real emotional attachment. She was also a pawn to her, to get whatever she needed from C&G...

desmom · #32 06-25-2009, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VII

and the infamous Target shopping trip ...
She purchases a mega pack of paper towels.
I can't see purchasing a mega pack for the boys (Tone) ...
I've wondered if she was going to use those to try and clean up the decomp.

7

I agree VII, especially living in an apartment. jmo

Sun · #33 06-25-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cassidy

That 911 call from Cindy was probably her one unguarded truthful moment. Her voice was full of fear and panic. Once she got off the phone and started putting 2 & 2 together, the frantic back peddling began in earnest and hasn't stopped yet. IMO she knew that nite that Caylee was dead, it just took a few moments to realize that Casey had done it.

Looking back over time, I think that all of the Anthonys knew that something had happened to Caylee, and they knew it way before July 15th. ....And, that Cindy's mind just was having great difficulites once she confronted Casey on July 15th, ....like having to face the reality all over again, and just trying to deny it. Lashing out to get someone to listen (she probably was sick of George telling it was going to be ok, because it sure didn't feel ok to "Cindy."). She wanted to tell someone that "she" was suffering because she was being denied Caylee. To me, those 911 calls were more about Cindy than anything. Her money, her car, her wanting someone to tell her what happened to Caylee. Having Casey right there, and the smell of death was just too much for her to be able to think straight and follow along with ignoring that Caylee ever existed. ....but her behavior between June 16th and July 15th, tells me that Cindy knew way earlier than July 15th.

apothecary · #34 06-25-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kOOkie1

Its just really sad they have made it to where we cant feel any compassion for them. The lose of their granddaughter..I feel for..but thats it. I have never understood how George could have gotten in that car after what he smelled. I dont understand why he didnt call 911 before leaving the impound lot.

Sometimes I think that George and Cindy both knew when they actually picked up the car,and had already discussed what not to do.It would have been an automatic action to call LE if a former cop smelled that smell,never mind consult anyone.It was like he was prepared.They had been there earlier and did not have the money to pick up the car.

kOOkie1 · #35 06-25-2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ellegna

Good morning

I have no doubt the A's knew from that moment at the tow yard Caylee was dead and the cover up began

If we could turn back time or hindsight was 20/20, can you imagine what the circumstances may have been
If the tow yard refused to allow the A's to leave the lot
If the tow yard called 911
If the police responded to the tow yard instead to the A's hours later

I can't even begin to imagine what could have been left in that trunk that would/could point directly at Casey

Exactly ellegna..they wanted to get to Casey before LE did!! I have wondered the same things myself. It should have been LE pulling Casey out of tonE apt. not Cindy. They had too much time together to come up with a coverup to save Casey's azz.

jammies · #36 06-25-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Explorer

I dont think Tone even liked her that much.

Dont think she was the kind of girl Tony was going to bring home to dear old mom.
If he had been serious about her he would have invited her to NY. Instead, he goes alone and kicks her out of his apt.

Scampi · #37 06-25-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by trich

I hope the pros have a copy of Cindy telling the media she just was afraid when they opened the trunk they were going to find her daughter or grandaughter.

When she actually found Casey alive and well.....then they knew for sure and then she came up with the pizza (that was not there) story.
I would show that in the court room if I was the pros.

I would love for Linda Burdick-Drane to ask both anthonys why they searched their backyard, even moving the playhouse to look under it. What were you looking for cindy and george?

Rapunzel · #38 06-25-2009, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by margaritaville

Bolding mine:
ITA...... George even told LE he knew what that smell was.
And they must have known that Mother of the year was capable of murder or why search their own back yard??

If they had ever thought that Caylee was kidnapped, they would have been PLEADING for the "kidnapper" to bring her home... And that NEVER happened... They knew Caylee was dead.. Even Cindy's family told them Caylee was dead and Casey killed her..
What I can't figure out though is why the cover up?
Why are they protecting Casey??
I know she is their daughter and they love her, but why protect her and lie for her? That is the part I will never understand...NEVER!!!

I think George does it because Cindy tells him to...we all know he has no _____. Cindy does it because she can...she is a control freak and if she would admit KC did something it would ruin the perfect image she had of her family. I also think some of it could be because of guilt. Knowing they should have done something and didn't.
Other factors such as just the dynamics of this family...I don't think any of them are totally mentally stable...they have warped priorities...warped sense of right and wrong.

cassidy · #39 06-25-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sun

Looking back over time, I think that all of the Anthonys knew that something had happened to Caylee, and they knew it way before July 15th. ....And, that Cindy's mind just was having great difficulites once she confronted Casey on July 15th, ....like having to face the reality all over again, and just trying to deny it. Lashing out to get someone to listen (she probably was sick of George telling it was going to be ok, because it sure didn't feel ok to "Cindy."). She wanted to tell someone that "she" was suffering because she was being denied Caylee. To me, those 911 calls were more about Cindy than anything. Her money, her car, her wanting someone to tell her what happened to Caylee. Having Casey right there, and the smell of death was just too much for her to be able to think straight and follow along with ignoring that Caylee ever existed. ....but her behavior between June 16th and July 15th, tells me that Cindy knew way earlier than July 15th.

I think cindy suspected that Caylee was dead. I think the car smell confirmed it for her. I just don't think in her wildest imaginings she thought that Casey did it or she never would have made that call. I think that what she (Cindy) had just done hit her after the call was made. At any rate, she let down her guard for that one call and has probably regretted it ever since.

JMO

JHP · #40 06-25-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by apothecary

Sometimes I think that George and Cindy both knew when they actually picked up the car,and had already discussed what not to do.It would have been an automatic action to call LE if a former cop smelled that smell,never mind consult anyone.It was like he was prepared.They had been there earlier and did not have the money to pick up the car.

Maybe they just used the not having the money as an excuse to check the situation out. Give it a drive by, see how they needed to react.