Tuesday June 23, 2009 #1

~layla~ · #1 06-23-2009, 06:25 AM

A new day.

May Caylee RIP.

AMS · #2 06-23-2009, 06:58 AM

Good morning- thanks for the new thread.

imo

desmom · #3 06-23-2009, 07:01 AM

One year ago today.....June 23, 2008

Brian Burner believes he saw Casey at the house with a guy. He thinks they were in a pick-up but he only saw them for a second before entering his home. Page 12 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1641640/...an---Statement

Tone picked up Casey, took her to get the gas cans at the A’s page 51 and page 55 Casey’s car was parked as if she was going to her house page 59
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...ony.090808.pdf

No text messages between Amy and Casey located in doc dumps.

Casey’s cell records http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/...rds_615_to_716

desmom · #4 06-23-2009, 07:05 AM

Casey Anthony case: Prosecutors want trial date set in fraud case
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,6615801.story

State Wants To Photo Anthony's Tattoo
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19823153/detail.html

AMS · #5 06-23-2009, 07:14 AM

The NG transcripts are not posted yet. Did anyone catch what Mark Williams said at the end when he was talking about George and his supposed suicide attempt? It was something that George confided in a nurse about his "attempt".

Thanks and good orning.

imp

desmom · #6 06-23-2009, 07:33 AM

Fraud Charges -

Images:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17663095/detail.html

Target - July 8 - http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17660775/detail.html

Target - July 10 - http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17660926/detail.html

Bank - http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17656954/detail.html

Video:

Cash Register - http://www.wftv.com/video/17664021/index.html

Entering & Exiting Target 7/08 - http://www.wftv.com/video/17660840/index.html

Checkout 7/08 - http://www.wftv.com/video/17660816/index.html

Entering & Exiting Target 7/10 - http://www.wftv.com/video/17660789/index.html

Checkout 7/10 - http://www.wftv.com/video/17660819/index.html

Bank Video - http://www.wftv.com/video/17658434/index.html

Fraud Charges Arrest Affidavit
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/7562873/...rest-affidavit

n/t · #7 06-23-2009, 07:37 AM

Good morning,

Will the same prosecutors prosecute the fraud charges?

AMS: I watched NG but I guess I missed that part.

desmom · #8 06-23-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by n/t

Good morning,

Will the same prosecutors prosecute the fraud charges?

AMS: I watched NG but I guess I missed that part.

I checked http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/ and Jose is listed as Casey's attorney and Strickland is the judge. No prosecutor's name listed.

The state's motion for a new trial date is recorded on 6/19. What I found interesting is on 5/4/09 a motion for change of venue was recorded...the same day a COV was filed on the murder charges.

Could JB be hoping all the charges will be in one trial? I hope not. I think it will be too much info for the jury and the fraud charges will be ignored.

jmo

desmom · #9 06-23-2009, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMS

The NG transcripts are not posted yet. Did anyone catch what Mark Williams said at the end when he was talking about George and his supposed suicide attempt? It was something that George confided in a nurse about his "attempt".

Thanks and good orning.

imp

I missed it.

Nancy Grace June 22, 2009

Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-xJE...e=channel_page

Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-RYT...eature=channel

Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7PK_...eature=channel

Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_A21...eature=channel

Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7ePA...eature=channel

ETA ~ Part 5 is the part with Mark Williams about G's suicide.

n/t · #10 06-23-2009, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmom

I checked http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/ and Jose is listed as Casey's attorney and Strickland is the judge. No prosecutor's name listed.

The state's motion for a new trial date is recorded on 6/19. What I found interesting is on 5/4/09 a motion for change of venue was recorded...the same day a COV was filed on the murder charges.

Could JB be hoping all the charges will be in one trial? I hope not. I think it will be too much info for the jury and the fraud charges will be ignored.

jmo

Thanks Des. I agree that it will be too much for the jury. The jury needs to focus on the evidence that will be presented in the murder trial.

I wonder if they'll be able to present the fraud evidence, if and when she is charged of fraud to the murder trial though (if done separately)? It does prove she had NO JOB and was stealing money and therefore could not afford a nanny.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Justice4All2 · #11 06-23-2009, 08:31 AM

It is simply unbelievable that anyone could muse that the autopsy of poor little Caylee shows no proof of homocide. The duct tape alone does that. There would be no need to do such a thing post mortem if it was an accident. And I also believe the theory that the body was put there after Casey was in custody is out the window, because of the roots growing up through the bones.

I know the defense team has to say something to mitigate this stuff, but they just sound silly now.

Ladyhawk · #12 06-23-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Justice4All2

It is simply unbelievable that anyone could muse that the autopsy of poor little Caylee shows no proof of homocide. The duct tape alone does that. There would be no need to do such a thing post mortem if it was an accident. And I also believe the theory that the body was put there after Casey was in custody is out the window, because of the roots growing up through the bones.

I know the defense team has to say something to mitigate this stuff, but they just sound silly now.

The defense is asking that old question "who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?"

Ladyhawk · #13 06-23-2009, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmom

I checked http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/ and Jose is listed as Casey's attorney and Strickland is the judge. No prosecutor's name listed.

The state's motion for a new trial date is recorded on 6/19. What I found interesting is on 5/4/09 a motion for change of venue was recorded...the same day a COV was filed on the murder charges.

Could JB be hoping all the charges will be in one trial? I hope not. I think it will be too much info for the jury and the fraud charges will be ignored.

jmo

Thank you des for all the links you so faithfully post. I have not heard about a COV being filed. I thought I was following along fairly well but obviously not since I missed that biggie. Has Strickland set a date to hear that motion?

CelticDawn · #14 06-23-2009, 08:51 AM

Order of the Whited Sephulcre.
( Hope doesn''t Spring eternally)

Now That would make a good title for a Horror/Fantasy/Crime Novel all rolled into one hellish genre.

What do you all think?

Oh....and Good Morning.....Late and busy night last night....may as well not even try to go to bed until tonight now.

kanzz · #15 06-23-2009, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMS

The NG transcripts are not posted yet. Did anyone catch what Mark Williams said at the end when he was talking about George and his supposed suicide attempt? It was something that George confided in a nurse about his "attempt".

Thanks and good orning.

imp

I hope we hear more about this and it doesn't get lost in all the other issues. Never believed for one minute that he had actually attempted. I would like to know how Mark Williams learned this - from whom.

CelticDawn · #16 06-23-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kanzz

I hope we hear more about this and it doesn't get lost in all the other issues. Never believed for one minute that he had actually attempted. I would like to know how Mark Williams learned this - from whom.

I don't believe that anybody who knew the anthonys MO at the time EVER believed that this was ever a genuine suicide attempt.

I believe that it was a distraction to give the rest of the camp time to complete one of their dastardly deeds in their continued efforts to cover up the original crimeS.....and to preserve what they THOUGHT was their good image and also to make people pity them....to feel as if they were just innocent hurting human beings like normal people would be...

I have no doubt that they hurt and feel.....but actions have consequences.....and sometimes one just has to roll with it and PAY for their playing or earlier indiscretions(however you want to put it).

desmom · #17 06-23-2009, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

Thank you des for all the links you so faithfully post. I have not heard about a COV being filed. I thought I was following along fairly well but obviously not since I missed that biggie. Has Strickland set a date to hear that motion?

IIRC, when the COV was brought up, the Pros. said it was too early to determine a COV since the trial may be months away. The judge agreed and it is something that will be taken into consideration at a later date.

JB complained about all the media coverage on the case in his COV. IMO, JB, the Dream Team, G & C and their attorney have all contributed to the media coverage locally and nationally.

Can he request a COV because of the media coverage if it is the Defense and family doing the media interviews?

Sun · #18 06-23-2009, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmom

IIRC, when the COV was brought up, the Pros. said it was too early to determine a COV since the trial may be months away. The judge agreed and it is something that will be taken into consideration at a later date.

JB complained about all the media coverage on the case in his COV. IMO, JB, the Dream Team, G & C and their attorney have all contributed to the media coverage locally and nationally.

Can he request a COV because of the media coverage if it is the Defense and family doing the media interviews?

I'm not really sure that Casey was being represented by a qualified attorney at the time that Baez filed for COV.

Sun · #19 06-23-2009, 09:24 AM

Can someone refresh my memory on the date that Casey got her shoulder tattoo? NG said July 6th... but for some reason, that is not the date that I remember. Anyone know, before I stop being lazy and just look up the info myself. LOL

Kathlb · #20 06-23-2009, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMS

The NG transcripts are not posted yet. Did anyone catch what Mark Williams said at the end when he was talking about George and his supposed suicide attempt? It was something that George confided in a nurse about his "attempt".

Thanks and good orning.

imp

First, thank you Desmom for the links each day. That's terrific!!

Next, AMS, I thought I heard them say that George said his suicide attempt was a fake. I'll have to check out the written version online to make sure. It was glossed over so quickly that I asked myself if I really heard that or not. LOL

Also...wasn't last Friday supposed to be all about Cindy on NG? Instead she wasn't there and it's never been mentioned again. I wonder if Cindy called her producers and said if they did that, she would sue??

Ladyhawk · #21 06-23-2009, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmom

IIRC, when the COV was brought up, the Pros. said it was too early to determine a COV since the trial may be months away. The judge agreed and it is something that will be taken into consideration at a later date.

JB complained about all the media coverage on the case in his COV. IMO, JB, the Dream Team, G & C and their attorney have all contributed to the media coverage locally and nationally.

Can he request a COV because of the media coverage if it is the Defense and family doing the media interviews?

I guess he can ask. I would think that since all the protesters have gone away and no one is continually walking outside the jail with signs saying hang the baby killer that they would first try to seat a jury. If they can't seat a jury then he could move it somewhere else. If Jose was really concerned about his client and her rights, he would not have opposed the gag order requested by the state...I would hope the judge would take that into consideration.

MissouriGMom · #22 06-23-2009, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sun

Can someone refresh my memory on the date that Casey got her shoulder tattoo? NG said July 6th... but for some reason, that is not the date that I remember. Anyone know, before I stop being lazy and just look up the info myself. LOL

Well, NG said last night that it was July 6th.

moo

Good morning all!

Tornado · #23 06-23-2009, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sun

Can someone refresh my memory on the date that Casey got her shoulder tattoo? NG said July 6th... but for some reason, that is not the date that I remember. Anyone know, before I stop being lazy and just look up the info myself. LOL

Hello Sun ( Dang I miss South Bend) - but I have read July 2 or 3rd. Then KC went back on the 15th to make another appointment for Saturday the 19th to have another. Hope that helps.

ellegna · #24 06-23-2009, 09:34 AM

Good morning

Thank you for all the links Desmom. Always appreciated

o/t Ed McMahon passed away

MissouriGMom · #25 06-23-2009, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sun

Can someone refresh my memory on the date that Casey got her shoulder tattoo? NG said July 6th... but for some reason, that is not the date that I remember. Anyone know, before I stop being lazy and just look up the info myself. LOL

Sorry, Sun. I guess I should have read your entire post, instead of just the first sentence.

I heard NG say the 6th as well. I'm not very helpful, am I?

Sun · #26 06-23-2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sun
Can someone refresh my memory on the date that Casey got her shoulder tattoo? NG said July 6th... but for some reason, that is not the date that I remember. Anyone know, before I stop being lazy and just look up the info myself. LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado

Hello Sun ( Dang I miss South Bend) - but I have read July 2 or 3rd. Then KC went back on the 15th to make another appointment for Saturday the 19th to have another. Hope that helps.

I was thinking that July 6th was the wrong date, because didn't Casey get that tattoo before Tony returned from NY?

desmom · #27 06-23-2009, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sun

Can someone refresh my memory on the date that Casey got her shoulder tattoo? NG said July 6th... but for some reason, that is not the date that I remember. Anyone know, before I stop being lazy and just look up the info myself. LOL

Bobby Williams, Cast Iron Tattoo, completed a tattoo on her left shoulder that read Bella Vita on July 2, 2008 around noon time.

page 189 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/...lando-sentinel

Tornado · #28 06-23-2009, 09:40 AM

I took three years of Spanish in college but I have a question to anyone who speaks the language or knows it way better than I do-

Doesn't the "a" at the end of Vita (feminine form of Vidar) make it "Her beautiful life" instead of just Beautiful Life?

Scampi · #29 06-23-2009, 09:40 AM

Good morning everyone! I have always believed that once the time arrives, this defense will not want a change of venue because they have consistently seeded Orlando with all their twisted and distorted spin on the evidence.

At any rate, both sides will hire jury consultants who will do surveys
which will reveal the best county for each side.

Still, it's up to the Judge whether everyone will move or if a jury pool
will be brought in to Orlando from another area.

desmom · #30 06-23-2009, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ellegna

Good morning

Thank you for all the links Desmom. Always appreciated

o/t Ed McMahon passed away

Ed

ellegna · #31 06-23-2009, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmom

Bobby Williams, Cast Iron Tattoo, completed a tattoo on her left shoulder that read Bella Vita on July 2, 2008 around noon time.

page 189 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/...lando-sentinel

Here's the Greta interview with Cast Iron Staff. July 6th didn't sound right so I went back and watched the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRzCg...layer_embedded

Sun · #32 06-23-2009, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmom

Bobby Williams, Cast Iron Tattoo, completed a tattoo on her left shoulder that read Bella Vita on July 2, 2008 around noon time.

page 189 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/...lando-sentinel

Thank You! I heard NG say July 6th a couple of times last night, and it just didn't seem like the correct date according to my memory... then I began to doubt my memory, for it isn't as sharp as it used to be.

kitty1182 · #33 06-23-2009, 09:46 AM

Good morning..Thanks Desmom for all the links...

desmom · #34 06-23-2009, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado

I took three years of Spanish in college but I have a question to anyone who speaks the language or knows it way better than I do-

Doesn't the "a" at the end of Vita (feminine form of Vidar) make it "Her beautiful life" instead of just Beautiful Life?

Good catch! It is the way I remember it from my high school Spanish from many many moons ago.

o = masculine a = feminine

jmo

Scampi · #35 06-23-2009, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado

I took three years of Spanish in college but I have a question to anyone who speaks the language or knows it way better than I do-

Doesn't the "a" at the end of Vita (feminine form of Vidar) make it "Her beautiful life" instead of just Beautiful Life?

There has always been confusion about the exact spelling, but I believe it is an Italian phrase. Perhaps denoting her new and exciting "single" life with her new Italian lover, Anthony Lazarro.

Sun · #36 06-23-2009, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scampi

Good morning everyone! I have always believed that once the time arrives, this defense will not want a change of venue because they have consistently seeded Orlando with all their twisted and distorted spin on the evidence.

At any rate, both sides will hire jury consultants who will do surveys
which will reveal the best county for each side.

Still, it's up to the Judge whether everyone will move or if a jury pool
will be brought in to Orlando from another area.

That is a very interesting option, and I wonder how the estimated length of the trial may play into this decision.

Tornado · #37 06-23-2009, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmom

Good catch! It is the way I remember it from my high school Spanish from many many moons ago.

o = masculine a = feminine

jmo

Thank you, that is what I was remembering too.

(See Mom I was paying attention) LOL

ellegna · #38 06-23-2009, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado

I took three years of Spanish in college but I have a question to anyone who speaks the language or knows it way better than I do-

Doesn't the "a" at the end of Vita (feminine form of Vidar) make it "Her beautiful life" instead of just Beautiful Life?

Don't know about Spanish but in Italian "La Bella Vita" means The Beautiful Life.

Explorer · #39 06-23-2009, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Postergeist
fyi- i'd edit my post quick so as not to get in trouble mentioning the link

i was looking up some old video of what C & G were up too last yr- here's the one where C was telling the story that Caylee was in PR (cuz she'd been sold)

wonder tho who it was that texted Amy?

http://www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/Ca...222439074.html

TY Poster...my bad...duly edited...lol

Unbelievable! It has Anthony fingerprints ALL OVER IT.

MissouriGMom · #40 06-23-2009, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scampi

There has always been confusion about the exact spelling, but I believe it is an Italian phrase. Perhaps denoting her new and exciting "single" life with her new Italian lover, Anthony Lazarro.

You're right, Scamp, it is Italian. My hubby speaks Italian, so I'll ask him to splain it when he gets up. (which could be noon)