Friday, June 19th, part 2

msgatorslayer · #1 06-19-2009, 06:20 PM

Please continue here.

I recently got home and had time to watch the video from today along with reading the autopsy report. I'm glad that the Judge released it.

Conway tried to weave the criminal trial in and I liked how the Judge smacked him down, lmao.

True2Blues · #2 06-19-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by msgatorslayer

Please continue here.

I recently got home and had time to watch the video from today along with reading the autopsy report. I'm glad that the Judge released it.

Conway tried to weave the criminal trial in and I liked how the Judge smacked him down, lmao.

I wish he'd used the gavel. LOL Who does Conway think he's representing?

msgatorslayer · #3 06-19-2009, 06:26 PM

George and his tears. Clutching his Caylee pic. {Did Cindy have a bear? I didn't notice} Talking about his privacy, bla, bla, bla. Only to have the State ask him how many cameos he's had recently, lmao. Poor George. Smacked down on that one.

msgatorslayer · #4 06-19-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 2witchy4u

Msgator we both made new threads at the same time. Could you contact CW to merge the two?

TIA

Sure thing, Witchy.

shelkobe · #5 06-19-2009, 06:28 PM

Ms.Gator, maybe you can put a link to this thread at the end of the other thread. If you did already, ignore me, lol.

Lavinia · #6 06-19-2009, 06:32 PM

YooHoo!

I hope we all get over here.

Eli · #7 06-19-2009, 06:35 PM

Hi Can someone help me out….just got in..and I heard that there were no drugs found in Caylees autopsy, however having followed this case intensly from the beginning , I seem to remember more than one forensic specialists stated on NG’s show and others that if cholorform or other drugs were used, it would be likely that there wouldn’t be any trace of them because of the time that had passed and the decompensation of the body. I got a little mad because I keep hearing the news reporters on tv saying Caylee didn’t die from chloroform. I saw Dr. Baden speaking and saying yes she probably didn’t die from drugs. Hey Dr. Baden, She could have died from chloroform and If what I am saying is true then Dr. Baden knows this and he never said anything on the news. The reporters clearly were novices and did not have some good questions for him. Maybe it cant be proved that it happened but this finding does not mean chloroform wasn’t used. I don’t think news media should use Dr. Baden when it involves this case, as his wife is an attorney on this case. This is a conflict of interest…
does anyone remember??

Jmo
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msgatorslayer · #8 06-19-2009, 06:36 PM

I think the Anthony's and Conway attempted to have the autopsy sealed because they simply needed something to do and wanted some drama.

Cindy sure can look like a victim when she wants to. Head down, and shaking. Why didn't she jump up and scold the Judge, like we've seen her do to Morgan and company?

desmom · #9 06-19-2009, 06:36 PM

Casey Anthony case: Zenaida Gonzalez's attorneys fire back
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,5426763.story

*MoonRider* · #10 06-19-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by msgatorslayer

I think the Anthony's and Conway attempted to have the autopsy sealed because they simply needed something to do and wanted some drama.

Cindy sure can look like a victim when she wants to. Head down, and shaking. Why didn't she jump up and scold the Judge, like we've seen her do to Morgan and company?

IMO, it's all about $$$$ for their foundation. Their media blitz would not have yielded as many donations if the report were released last Friday as scheduled. Brad even had to get the foundation "plug" in open court. jmo

Lavinia · #11 06-19-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by desmom

Casey Anthony case: Zenaida Gonzalez's attorneys fire back
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,5426763.story

I thought he already gave his depo?

(Contempt, huh?

)

Pretty Leaf · #12 06-19-2009, 06:40 PM

In the hearing this am when Bozo was making his convoluted requests you can see Brad slowly rolling, rolling in his chair back away from him. Like don't lump me in with this jerk.

Eagleeye · #13 06-19-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Eli

Hi Can someone help me out….just got in..and I heard that there were no drugs found in Caylees autopsy, however having followed this case intensly from the beginning , I seem to remember more than one forensic specialists stated on NG’s show and others that if cholorform or other drugs were used, it would be likely that there wouldn’t be any trace of them because of the time that had passed and the decompensation of the body. I got a little mad because I keep hearing the news reporters on tv saying Caylee didn’t die from chloroform. I saw Dr. Baden speaking and saying yes she probably didn’t die from drugs. Hey Dr. Baden, She could have died from chloroform and If what I am saying is true then Dr. Baden knows this and he never said anything on the news. The reporters clearly were novices and did not have some good questions for him. Maybe it cant be proved that it happened but this finding does not mean chloroform wasn’t used. I don’t think news media should use Dr. Baden when it involves this case, as his wife is an attorney on this case. This is a conflict of interest…
does anyone remember??

Jmo
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They didn't find it to be a conflict of interest when they were both on the Phil Spector I case. Probably won't matter in this one either.

True2Blues · #14 06-19-2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by msgatorslayer

I think the Anthony's and Conway attempted to have the autopsy sealed because they simply needed something to do and wanted some drama.

Cindy sure can look like a victim when she wants to. Head down, and shaking. Why didn't she jump up and scold the Judge, like we've seen her do to Morgan and company?

Sh looked furious to me. I think she had her head down like that so the judge couldn't see the clenched jaw and angry, hateful, glare.

I did see her hand start to shake when he denied their motion, but I put that down to rage, because she didn't get her way.

msgatorslayer · #15 06-19-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by desmom

Casey Anthony case: Zenaida Gonzalez's attorneys fire back
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,5426763.story

"The amount of stonewalling that has taken place in the discovery phase of this lawsuit by both the defendant and some of the witnesses is extraordinary," the motion states

Hold him in contempt!!!!

Everyone associated with this family thinks they're above the law.

msgatorslayer · #16 06-19-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by True2Blues

Sh looked furious to me. I think she had her head down like that so the judge couldn't see the clenched jaw and angry, hateful, glare.

I did see her hand start to shake when he denied their motion, but I put that down to rage, because she didn't get her way.

You're probably spot on!! But people who don't follow the case see it and think she's the poor, grieving Grama.

Sandy001 · #17 06-19-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by True2Blues

I wish he'd used the gavel. LOL Who does Conway think he's representing?

I am trhinking that the duct tape in the autopsy is making one BIG FAT LIAR out of Conway who stated on LKL that there was no duct tape around the mouth

It makes me want to ask him how he likes being an Anthony ho

True2Blues · #18 06-19-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagleeye

They didn't find it to be a conflict of interest when they were both on the Phil Spector I case. Probably won't matter in this one either.

Doctor Baden said he didn't know what a conflict of interest was.

It was stated during the Spector case that it wasn't technically conflict of interest, because Dr. Baden was hired first and LKB later. In this case, since she is already an attorney for Casey, it would be a true conflict of interest for LKB the attorney, to pay for the testimony of her husband.

Personally, I don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth either way.

*MoonRider* · #19 06-19-2009, 06:46 PM

Brad's presser
http://www.wftv.com/video/19802786/index.html

True2Blues · #20 06-19-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy001

I am trhinking that the duct tape in the autopsy is making one BIG FAT LIAR out of Conway who stated on LKL that there was no duct tape around the mouth

It makes me want to ask him how he likes being an Anthony ho

He fits right in with that bunch.

Eli · #21 06-19-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagleeye

They didn't find it to be a conflict of interest when they were both on the Phil Spector I case. Probably won't matter in this one either.

But Baden is out there as a forensic expert on the talk shows and I was thinking he could taint the jury pool....in ps case, he was their specialist

jmo

Eagleeye · #22 06-19-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by True2Blues

Doctor Baden said he didn't know what a conflict of interest was.

It was stated during the Spector case that it wasn't technically conflict of interest, because Dr. Baden was hired first and LKB later. In this case, since she is already an attorney for Casey, it would be a true conflict of interest for LKB the attorney, to pay for the testimony of her husband.

Personally, I don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth either way.

No argument here True2.

101Spots · #23 06-19-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lavinia

I thought he already gave his depo?

(Contempt, huh?

)

Nope. He skipped his appointment. Without notice. No wonder Morgan's peed off.

True2Blues · #24 06-19-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by *MoonRider*

Brad's presser
http://www.wftv.com/video/19802786/index.html

He's a real piece of work. He doesn't even change the tone of his voice when he turns on the fake sincerity. He makes my skin crawl.

101Spots · #25 06-19-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by True2Blues

He's a real piece of work. He doesn't even change the tone of his voice when he turns on the fake sincerity. He makes my skin crawl.

I hope nobody slipped on that slime trail he left behind.

Lavinia · #26 06-19-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 101Spots

Nope. He skipped his appointment. Without notice. No wonder Morgan's peed off.

Whooeee! I bet he is! He better be minding his P's and Q's (Casey).

Daffodil · #27 06-19-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by msgatorslayer

I think the Anthony's and Conway attempted to have the autopsy sealed because they simply needed something to do and wanted some drama.

Cindy sure can look like a victim when she wants to. Head down, and shaking. Why didn't she jump up and scold the Judge, like we've seen her do to Morgan and company?

I absolutely agree with you. I was thinking that as I watched the video and then read the reports. She is an actress indeed.

I think they are all addicted to the camera.

shelkobe · #28 06-19-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 2witchy4u

from this link...........

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-b...,5124706.story

Some findings from the reports:

Crime scene technicians spent more than a week scouring the wooded area at the end of Suburban Drive to locate the remains.

The autopsy report shows they collected "an almost complete skeleton of a young child with only multiple small bones missing. The missing bones include small bones from the wrists and hands, as well as fingers and ankle, hyoid and patella," the report said.

The report shows several overlapping pieces of duct tape on Caylee's skull.

"Although there is no trauma evident on the skeleton, there is duct tape over the lower facial region still attached to head hair," the report said. "This duct tape was clearly placed prior to decomposition keeping the mandible in place."

The hyoid bone is the one that would determine strangulation, no? If it were found and intact that would at least eliminate one method of murder.

TunaMelt · #29 06-19-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by True2Blues

Sh looked furious to me. I think she had her head down like that so the judge couldn't see the clenched jaw and angry, hateful, glare.

I did see her hand start to shake when he denied their motion, but I put that down to rage, because she didn't get her way.

Exactly True.

When her hands shake, it's the result of inner fury.

And that's scary. That someone could get that mad, sitting there, holding it in. You know eventually she's gonna blow.

The house must have been a very frightening place to be, when someone can go off like that, hands shaking from rage, face contorted with hate.

Daffodil · #30 06-19-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TunaMelt

Exactly True.

When her hands shake, it's the result of inner fury.

And that's scary. That someone could get that mad, sitting there, holding it in. You know eventually she's gonna blow.

The house must have been a very frightening place to be, when someone can go off like that, hands shaking from rage, face contorted with hate.

I wish I was a body language expert, read lips, be a lawyer and so many other things. But........did anybody notice how George physically turned away from Cindy in the courtroom? She put her hand on his arm and he just turned his body away from hers.

happygert · #31 06-19-2009, 07:15 PM

c and g did NOTHING to PROTECT CAYLEE.. NOTHING.. they knew their daughter was and unfit mother.. c made casey keep Caylee when casey made it clear she did not want Caylee.. What made c think just because she made casey keep her that casey was going to LOVE her?
WHY didn't c take custody of Caylee.. Why didnt c and g protect Caylee from the monster they created.. c & g cleaned mess after mess of casey's up.. What consequences did casey ever have for her actions? NONE.. Yes I'd say they knew very well what their daughter was capable of.. Now they go into court and ask that the autopsy be sealed for who are they asking that for? Caylee no.. it's, because of the one they are trying to still protect their own murdering ,lying, stealing , bed hopping daughter.. Has nothing to do with protecting Caylee.. they never did PROTECT her ever!
Caylee is dead she dont need protecting.. It's a little too late g and c..

They will never stop tho trying to protect the one who murdered Caylee

remember bc saying to judge if this come out it could jeopardize casey getting a fair trial..... OK bc did you forget this was suppose to be about Caylee..NOPE this little charade today was never about Caylee it was all about casey...
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Imperfect4 · #32 06-19-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TunaMelt

Exactly True.

When her hands shake, it's the result of inner fury.

And that's scary. That someone could get that mad, sitting there, holding it in. You know eventually she's gonna blow.

The house must have been a very frightening place to be, when someone can go off like that, hands shaking from rage, face contorted with hate.

I've said this before ...

Having "control issues" is not always the somewhat benign, almost cute character trait it's made out to be.

Cindy's controlling personality is a very disturbing thing to watch, much less live with.

Sandy001 · #33 06-19-2009, 07:16 PM

Baez, as usually made me nod off. I just noticed today that he has no neck!!! He has had that autopsy report since before the Discovery was released last Friday - NOW he needs 48 more hours....I don't think so. Baez is a fool because he thinks people are stupid and he is the only smart guy on the block. Someone really needs to tell him. Nah - I need my little naps...lol

Imperfect4 · #34 06-19-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Daffodil

I wish I was a body language expert, read lips, be a lawyer and so many other things. But........did anybody notice how George physically turned away from Cindy in the courtroom? She put her hand on his arm and he just turned his body away from hers.

Yes, many of us noticed.

The're battling now just as they've battled for years, imo.

As I tried to point out on this morning's thread, ad nauseam, these are the same people they've always been, just in a higher stakes game.

Daffodil · #35 06-19-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by happygert

c and g did NOTHING to PROTECT CAYLEE.. NOTHING.. they knew their daughter was and unfit mother.. c made casey keep Caylee when casey made it clear she did not want Caylee.. What made c think just because she made casey keep her that casey was going to LOVE her?
WHY didn't c take custody of Caylee.. Why didnt c and g protect Caylee from the monster they created.. c & g cleaned mess after mess of casey's up.. What consequences did casey ever have for her actions? NONE.. Yes I'd say they knew very well what their daughter was capable of.. Now they go into court and ask that the autopsy be sealed for who are they asking that for? Caylee no.. it's, because of the one they are trying to still protect their own murdering ,lying, stealing , bed hopping daughter.. Has nothing to do with protecting Caylee.. they never did PROTECT her ever!
Caylee is dead she dont need protecting.. It's a little too late g and c..

They will never stop tho trying to protect the one who murdered Caylee

remember bc saying to judge if this come out it could jeopardize casey getting a fair trial..... OK bc did you forget this was suppose to be about Caylee..NOPE this little charade today was never about Caylee it was all about casey...
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Happygert,

You sound like fuminggert!!! I agree with you. I didn't think of that till you just posted it.

Sandy001 · #36 06-19-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Imperfect4

I've said this before ...

Having "control issues" is not always the somewhat benign, almost cute character trait it's made out to be.

Cindy's controlling personality is a very disturbing thing to watch, much less live with.

Having lived with a step-mother who was also controlling (she mandated WHO her 36 year old son could work for), I know the price to be paid. You either give them contol or they will make your life miserable.

Lavinia · #37 06-19-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shelkobe

The hyoid bone is the one that would determine strangulation, no? If it were found and intact that would at least eliminate one method of murder.

Not always shelkobe. An intact hyoid doesn't necessarily R/O strangulation, especially in the very pliable bones of a child. A hyoid isn't always broken during strangulation. I wish we could know what happened to Caylee, but I bet we never know for sure.

happygert · #38 06-19-2009, 07:19 PM

Im also wondering if c knew exactly how long it would take Caylee to comlpetely decompose? Is that why they waited the 30 days .. Remember c telling casey I already gave you 30 days.. By the time they reported Caylee "missing" she was already decompsed.. No way by then to tell what the cause of death was...Very sad..I also truly believe c & g knew exactly where casey threw Caylee away at..

Daffodil · #39 06-19-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Imperfect4

Yes, many of us noticed.

The're battling now just as they've battled for years, imo.

As I tried to point out on this morning's thread, ad nauseam, these are the same people they've always been, just in a higher stakes game.

Yes, I agree that they are who they have always been. Except with a little more venom. This incident did not make them into who they are today. It is just so crazy that these people are exposing themselves to us every chance they get but do not realize a thing about "doing the right thing" or know how wrong their actions are.

Now I have to go make a salad. We have company too. I wish I could just stay here for the rest of the evening. I'll come back later to see if I can gather any more info.

Daffodil · #40 06-19-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by happygert

Im also wondering if c knew exactly how long it would take Caylee to comlpetely decompose? Is that why they waited the 30 days .. Remember c telling casey I already gave you 30 days.. By the time they reported Caylee "missing" she was already decompsed.. No way by then to tell what the cause of death was...Very sad..I also truly believe c & g knew exactly where casey threw Caylee away at..

Gert,

I so agree with what you just posted. They chose 30 days for a reason, just what reason(s) we don't know for sure......yet.