Friday, June 19, 2009 #1

[desmom]

One year ago today....June 19, 2008

Casey called Matt Crisp to ask if he still leased apartments, he said he did. Tone and Casey meet with Matt in the a.m. Casey did not have her id with her so she was not able to see the apartment. Matt showed the apartment to Tone. Matt said Casey was very jovial, very smiley, very upbeat. http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...atthew0717.pdf

On June 18 or 19, Casey borrowed a shovel from Brian Burner at approximately 1:30 p.m. Casey’s car was backed into the garage. She returned the shovel around 2:30 p.m. Pages 6 – 7 http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/bb092308.pdf

Text Messages between Casey and Amy http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/...-Text-Messages

Casey to Amy 6/19/08 1:06 p.m.: Call me when you’re headed over to see your car.

Amy to Casey: I’m on my way.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643389/...is---Statement
Chris Stutz said Casey stopped by June 17, 18 or 19 around 5:00 p.m. She was driving a dark colored Jeep Cherokee with NY license plates. She was happy, but a little “distressed about her parents”. Casey said they were getting a divorce because George was cheating on Cindy. She told Chris about a Casey was thinking about buying a $250,000 house in a subdivision by the dump on Curry Ford. Casey stayed for 1 ½ - 2 hours.

Casey’s Cell phone pings http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...7Vsp9pYg&gid=2

[Sun]

Good morning desmom and everyone! Court hearing today at 11 a.m.

Here is a good interview by Kathi Belich and WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer, where he talks the possible release of Caylee Anthony's autopsy report. (06/18/09)

http://www.wftv.com/video/19794253/index.html

[Justice4All2]

We can live in hope. I don't see why the court is tiptoe-ing around the Anthonys anyway. In strict legal terms, they are not a party to this case except as witnesses, and as such they shouldn't have any say in setting the agenda ... unless somebody's designated them unindicted co-conspirators and forgot to tell me. They have no standing to block anything. A document release would distress them, but flying to New York or Los Angeles to stay in fancy hotels, being served gourmet meals, and spew their nonsense on talk shows doesn't seem to faze them much.

[Sun]

Originally Posted by Justice4All2

We can live in hope. I don't see why the court is tiptoe-ing around the Anthonys anyway. In strict legal terms, they are not a party to this case except as witnesses, and as such they shouldn't have any say in setting the agenda ... unless somebody's designated them unindicted co-conspirators and forgot to tell me. They have no standing to block anything. A document release would distress them, but flying to New York or Los Angeles to stay in fancy hotels, being served gourmet meals, and spew their nonsense on talk shows doesn't seem to faze them much.

I would think that most parents would feel distress if their own daughter was being tried for Murder. Instead, the Anthony seem to take the position that they have the right to order the court to do something against that is against the law (Sunshine Law), just because they are afraid of feeling even more stress. ...I just don't get it. And, I think that I am very, very glad that I can't think like any of the Anthonys. LOL

[ellegna]

So the release of the autopsy report will bring about distress and anguish? Where was the anguish the day the A's flew home from LA in December? They were told a child's remains were found minutes from from their home. Did these distressed, anguished grandparents make an attempt to go to the crime scene? Instead, these distraught, anguished grandparents made their way to the Ritz and had dinner. If the news that Caylee may have been found did not bring about anguish, why oh why are they being so overly dramatic about an autopsy report?

Are the A's really concerned about their emotional well being or are they afraid the truth contained in this report will have a significant impact on donations for the CMA Foundation? At this point, I do not believe the A's give a hoot the report may link Casey directly to Caylee's death. They are only worried about themselves.

[Scampi]

Originally Posted by ellegna

So the release of the autopsy report will bring about distress and anguish? Where was the anguish the day the A's flew home from LA in December? They were told a child's remains were found minutes from from their home. Did these distressed, anguished grandparents make an attempt to go to the crime scene? Instead, these distraught, anguished grandparents made their way to the Ritz and had dinner. If the news that Caylee may have been found did not bring about anguish, why oh why are they being so overly dramatic about an autopsy report?

Are the A's really concerned about their emotional well being or are they afraid the truth contained in this report will have a significant impact on donations for the CMA Foundation? At this point, I do not believe the A's give a hoot the report may link Casey directly to Caylee's death. They are only worried about themselves.

Didn't seem to be too much anguish when they rolled up to the remains crimescene in the dead of night, to rip Caylee's memorial cross out of the ground either, imo.

Words fail when describing the anthonys behavior.

Morning Canada and everyone.

[*MoonRider*]

Originally Posted by Sun

I would think that most parents would feel distress if their own daughter was being tried for Murder. Instead, the Anthony seem to take the position that they have the right to order the court to do something against that is against the law (Sunshine Law), just because they are afraid of feeling even more stress. ...I just don't get it. And, I think that I am very, very glad that I can't think like any of the Anthonys. LOL

It's also amazing that they can't answer questions for the civil suit but can answer the very same questions on National TV in New York.

[Sun]

Originally Posted by *MoonRider*

It's also amazing that they can't answer questions for the civil suit but can answer the very same questions on National TV in New York.

....the difference is, one event is UNDER OATH, and the other is not. One event they are paid for, one they are not.

I wonder if Conway will be providing medical records to document the emotional state of George and Cindy? Or will he just believe that the Court will take his work for it?

[Myka]

Originally Posted by Sun

Good morning desmom and everyone! Court hearing today at 11 a.m.

Here is a good interview by Kathi Belich and WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer, where he talks the possible release of Caylee Anthony's autopsy report. (06/18/09)

http://www.wftv.com/video/19794253/index.html

thanks for sharing

now let's hope he is right and the judge won't block the report!!

[vagal]

Originally Posted by Sun

Good morning desmom and everyone! Court hearing today at 11 a.m.

Here is a good interview by Kathi Belich and WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer, where he talks the possible release of Caylee Anthony's autopsy report. (06/18/09)

http://www.wftv.com/video/19794253/index.html

Oh my gosh..Just listened to this and I really hope it goes the way he says it could. What a interesting interview.

[Sun]

Originally Posted by vagal

Oh my gosh..Just listened to this and I really hope it goes the way he says it could. What a interesting interview.

Yes, those two make excellence sense. I did notice that Bill was very specific in a few of his statements, ....leaving me with an idea that there was something he was not telling us. Like maybe the Judge could rule differently, depending on what he is making his ruling based on.

I just don't think that this motion of Conway's meets the burden. We'll see shortly, I guess. LOL

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Sun

Good morning desmom and everyone! Court hearing today at 11 a.m.

Here is a good interview by Kathi Belich and WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer, where he talks the possible release of Caylee Anthony's autopsy report. (06/18/09)

http://www.wftv.com/video/19794253/index.html

Thanks for the link ... I sure like that legal analyst. He's so patient in explaining everything.

I liked his comparison between Casey's reaction to the Blanchard park search and the actual body location search. He was asked if the defense could argue that Casey was having a normal reaction since the body was found so close to home, but it seems to me that Casey should have had an even more severe reaction to the Blanchard park search because - correct me if I'm wrong - wasn't that one of the location for one of Casey's stories about the abduction?

Sounds like we should have that autopsy report in no time, and I think 10 times more people will have a look at it because the Anthonys have drawn extra attention to it.

[*MoonRider*]

Originally Posted by Jester

Thanks for the link ... I sure like that legal analyst. He's so patient in explaining everything.

I liked his comparison between Casey's reaction to the Blanchard park search and the actual body location search. He was asked if the defense could argue that Casey was having a normal reaction since the body was found so close to home, but it seems to me that Casey should have had an even more severe reaction to the Blanchard park search because - correct me if I'm wrong - wasn't that one of the location for one of Casey's stories about the abduction?

Sounds like we should have that autopsy report in no time, and I think 10 times more people will have a look at it because the Anthonys have drawn extra attention to it.

Bolding is mine. ITA, it would have been old news by now.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by *MoonRider*

Bolding is mine. ITA, it would have been old news by now.

Quite true ... I wouldn't even have read it. Autopsy reports are dry, clinical, and I prefer to hear the court's interpretation of the results rather than wade through it myself.

As it is, I'm going to read through it over the next couple of days.

[Sun]

WESH-Channel 2 reported that Casey Anthony won't attend the hearing. "Those who've seen the autopsy report tell me that there's nothing in it that really resembles a smoking gun of any sort in the overall case against Casey," WESH's Bob Kealing said.

George or Cindy Anthony might take the stand in the hearing, their attorney, Brad Conway, told Kealing.


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/ent...sy-report.html

[Scampi]

Originally Posted by Sun

WESH-Channel 2 reported that Casey Anthony won't attend the hearing. "Those who've seen the autopsy report tell me that there's nothing in it that really resembles a smoking gun of any sort in the overall case against Casey," WESH's Bob Kealing said.

George or Cindy Anthony might take the stand in the hearing, their attorney, Brad Conway, told Kealing.


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/ent...sy-report.html

I would be absolutely shocked if Judge Strickland allowed the anthonys on that stand to disrupt the proceedings with their drama.

[Amy]

Originally Posted by Sun

WESH-Channel 2 reported that Casey Anthony won't attend the hearing. "Those who've seen the autopsy report tell me that there's nothing in it that really resembles a smoking gun of any sort in the overall case against Casey," WESH's Bob Kealing said.

George or Cindy Anthony might take the stand in the hearing, their attorney, Brad Conway, told Kealing.


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/ent...sy-report.html

What ought to upset them more than the release of the autopsy report is the fact that their daughter killed their granddaughter. Not proven in court---yet, to be sure. But as plain as the noses on their faces.

Or, they ought to be so upset that they continue to hunt for the real killer. I guess, maybe they are, in the same way they hunted for their "missing" dead granddaughter.

[PROPROS]

Originally Posted by Amy

What ought to upset them more than the release of the autopsy report is the fact that their daughter killed their granddaughter. Not proven in court---yet, to be sure. But as plain as the noses on their faces.

Or, they ought to be so upset that they continue to hunt for the real killer. I guess, maybe they are, in the same way they hunted for their "missing" dead granddaughter.

Absolutely, what could possibly be more devastating then that...But, they go on defending the mother of the year and bash LE, TES, FBI and all of Casey's friends.mo

[kitty1182]

Originally Posted by Jester

Thanks for the link ... I sure like that legal analyst. He's so patient in explaining everything.

I liked his comparison between Casey's reaction to the Blanchard park search and the actual body location search. He was asked if the defense could argue that Casey was having a normal reaction since the body was found so close to home, but it seems to me that Casey should have had an even more severe reaction to the Blanchard park search because - correct me if I'm wrong - wasn't that one of the location for one of Casey's stories about the abduction?

Sounds like we should have that autopsy report in no time, and I think 10 times more people will have a look at it because the Anthonys have drawn extra attention to it.

Yes, I think BP was where zanny and her sister knocked her down and took Caylee...

ETA..She got the "script" that day too..

[ish]

Whatever happened to Orlando Salinas? He reported on this case early on and really got into some arguments with the Anthony's and Baez. Is he still reporting down in Florida or has he moved on? Anyone know?

[Jester]

Originally Posted by kitty1182

Yes, I think BP was where zanny and her sister knocked her down and took Caylee...

ETA..She got the "script" that day too..

That speaks volumes. If her story is that Cayley was taken by Zaneida at Blanchard Park, news reports were that a body was possibly found there, and she yawned and walked away ... then she's got a big problem with her reaction to the actual discovery of the remains. I liked the legal analysts comments about there being several missing children, so only the murderer would be freaking if a body was found where they left a body.

I remember reading about her reaction at the time Blanchard Park was searched, and I'm sure I wasn't the only one to be surprised at how relaxed she was about it all. I was on pins and needles until it was reported that it wasn't a body.

Someone suggested last night that Leonard may have deliberately staged the Blanchard Park discovery to provoke a reaction ... I like Leonard.

[Myka]

woo hoo, made it just in time for the hearing!!

[Sun]

Originally Posted by desmom

One year ago today....June 19, 2008

On June 18 or 19, Casey borrowed a shovel from Brian Burner at approximately 1:30 p.m. Casey’s car was backed into the garage. She returned the shovel around 2:30 p.m. Pages 6 – 7 http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/bb092308.pdf

Here is one more person that Casey lied to. He said that she told him that she needed the shovel to dig up a bamboo root. Yet, one has to wonder if she was NOT living at the Anthony home, why would she need to dig anything up. Even BBurner had figured this out, by the time he gave an interview to LE.

[Sun]

Here are the last few entries on the Clerk of Courts records in the Criminal Case. I think the one on 6/17 indicated that Judge Strickland now has access to the autopsy report. And, the 6/18 one, could someone have failed to properly serve notice to someone, and had to do a do-over? I wish these had just a little more detail to them.

6/17/2009 A NOTICE OF PROVISION OF DOCUMENTS UNDER SEAL FOR IN CAMERA INSPECTION RE: AUTOPSY REPORTS

6/18/2009 A NOTICE OF FILING (WILL SUBMIT COPY OF AMENDED CERT OF SERV)

6/18/2009 A ORDER GRANTING THE ORLANDO SENTINEL'S MOTION TO INTERVENE IN THIS ACTION FOR THE LIMITED PURPOSE OF OPPOSING THE DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO SEAL A JAIL VIDEOTAPE TAKEN ON 12/11/08.

6/18/2009 A ORDER GRANTING DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO SEAL THE JAIL VIDEOTAPE TAKEN 12/11/08.

[sydney]

good morning - just a quickie before work...

i keep wondering why BAEZ isn't opposing release of the autopsy. one would think that KC would be the one feeling the anguish as well as her parents. it's very interesting to me that g&c are attempting to thwart the release of the autopsy report instead of baez.

i also find it interesting that (as far as i know - if i'm incorrect, someone please correct me) baez hasn't said anything about how kc feels about this whole mess.

as i said yesterday, IF the autopsy report is sealed, i would think that dr. g would be deposed at some time or other and i wonder if her depo would be sealed as well. if it is released, as have been all the others, would sealing the autopsy report really accomplish anything?

anyone? tia

[trich]

Originally Posted by sydney

good morning - just a quickie before work...

i keep wondering why BAEZ isn't opposing release of the autopsy. one would think that KC would be the one feeling the anguish as well as her parents. it's very interesting to me that g&c are attempting to thwart the release of the autopsy report instead of baez.

i also find it interesting that (as far as i know - if i'm incorrect, someone please correct me) baez hasn't said anything about how kc feels about this whole mess.

as i said yesterday, IF the autopsy report is sealed, i would think that dr. g would be deposed at some time or other and i wonder if her depo would be sealed as well. if it is released, as have been all the others, would sealing the autopsy report really accomplish anything?

anyone? tia

Maybe Baez is trying to stay out of the media since every time he opens his mouth in front of them and the rest of the world he looks and sounds like an idiot.
Of course I am just about convinced that the only people associataed with any of the Anthonys are nuts .
The more they talk the more it becomes evident.
They walk around with the attitude that they are the only ones that are right and the rest of society is wrong.

[Sun]

Here it is, two-thirds through June, and the defense appears to be no closer at providing a defense for Casey, than they were two months ago. The death penalty was put back on the table, I believe on April 13th. It took until June 12th for the defense to get a qualified attorney on board... at least June 12th was the date that Judge Strickland approved the ad hoc vice.

Yes, Casey is sitting in the jail, and for that I am grateful. Grateful that society is being protected from her. I just sometimes wish that her address was a prison. An address on death row would be ok, however, LWOP might serve just as well.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally Posted by Sun

Here it is, two-thirds through June, and the defense appears to be no closer at providing a defense for Casey, than they were two months ago. The death penalty was put back on the table, I believe on April 13th. It took until June 12th for the defense to get a qualified attorney on board... at least June 12th was the date that Judge Strickland approved the ad hoc vice.

Yes, Casey is sitting in the jail, and for that I am grateful. Grateful that society is being protected from her. I just sometimes wish that her address was a prison. An address on death row would be ok, however, LWOP might serve just as well.

Casey's eagerness to help LE find her Daughter has hurt trying to defend her.

Even can Baez is capable of thinking "Casey, my girl, I wish you wouldn't have said who took Caylee"

[Kathlb]

Good morning!
From all indications, Casey won't be attending the hearing this morning and depending on arguments presented, it could be short and sweet for the judge to release it to the public and the media. It's also been pointed out that Conway has no legal basis for filing this on behalf of the Anthony's. There is no case law to back it up and the Anthony's have no legal standing in this case. Also grief is not a legal reason and even if it were, they have no trouble to constantly search out avenues to get on the national media and talk about it. Hopefully this ruling will let the Anthony's know that the aren't a part of this case legally.

[SandyO]

Originally Posted by Kathlb

Good morning!
From all indications, Casey won't be attending the hearing this morning and depending on arguments presented, it could be short and sweet for the judge to release it to the public and the media. It's also been pointed out that Conway has no legal basis for filing this on behalf of the Anthony's. There is no case law to back it up and the Anthony's have no legal standing in this case. Also grief is not a legal reason and even if it were, they have no trouble to constantly search out avenues to get on the national media and talk about it. Hopefully this ruling will let the Anthony's know that the aren't a part of this case legally.

Will George and Cindy be present? Will they have an opportunity to speak?

[AMS]

Originally Posted by sydney

good morning - just a quickie before work...

i keep wondering why BAEZ isn't opposing release of the autopsy. one would think that KC would be the one feeling the anguish as well as her parents. it's very interesting to me that g&c are attempting to thwart the release of the autopsy report instead of baez.

i also find it interesting that (as far as i know - if i'm incorrect, someone please correct me) baez hasn't said anything about how kc feels about this whole mess.

as i said yesterday, IF the autopsy report is sealed, i would think that dr. g would be deposed at some time or other and i wonder if her depo would be sealed as well. if it is released, as have been all the others, would sealing the autopsy report really accomplish anything?

anyone? tia

Good morning all,

I just watched the video tha Sun posted of the interview with Bill Schaeffer (thanks Sun). He said there was no legal basis for the motion. He also went on to say that good lawyers typically do not file motions with no legal basis. My bet is that if there was no Andrea Lyon on the case, Baez would have filed the motion as well. I don't think Lyon would put up with filing a motion with no legal basis. imo

imo

[sydney]

Originally Posted by AMS

Good morning all,

I just watched the video tha Sun posted of the interview with Bill Schaeffer (thanks Sun). He said there was no legal basis for the motion. He also went on to say that good lawyers typically do not file motions with no legal basis. My bet is that if there was no Andrea Lyon on the case, Baez would have filed the motion as well. I don't think Lyon would put up with filing a motion with no legal basis. imo

imo

thanks for that. i wonder how on earth AL is able to control baez - must be very, very difficult. (i picture a horse's harness on baez with AL leaning back with all her might on the reins.....)

[bluwaters]

Good morning...

Casey Anthony case: Will judge seal Caylee's autopsy report?
George and Cindy Anthony will ask a judge today to seal Caylee Marie's autopsy report.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,4221598.story

[msgatorslayer]

Originally Posted by bluwaters

Good morning...

Casey Anthony case: Will judge seal Caylee's autopsy report?
George and Cindy Anthony will ask a judge today to seal Caylee Marie's autopsy report.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,4221598.story

From the article -

'George and Cindy Anthony do not want to have to endure "endless comment and speculation in the media and public forums" about how Caylee died.'

But they'll go on national TV, fueling the publics hatred of them with more lies and pitty parties. The endless comments about that are okay.

They should be used to whatever the media and internet posters has to dish out by now. They've been living this crazy train for almost a year.

I say release it on the comments about the media and public alone. For the Sunshine Laws are all about the public. If this motion was filed by Baez, he could at least claim the same things he claimed in his motion over the jail video. But the Anthony's have nothing. They want to close the public off to something we're entitled to just so that THEY don't have to listen to the negative comments about it on the news. PFFT!!

[cassidy]

Originally Posted by desmom

One year ago today....June 19, 2008

Casey called Matt Crisp to ask if he still leased apartments, he said he did. Tone and Casey meet with Matt in the a.m. Casey did not have her id with her so she was not able to see the apartment. Matt showed the apartment to Tone. Matt said Casey was very jovial, very smiley, very upbeat. http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...atthew0717.pdf

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Dumb question, but why did she have to have an ID to see an apartment with TonE?
And thanks again desmom for the daily reminders of what happened last year at this time.

[denjet]

Mornin' folks!
CFnews13 and MyFox Orlando sites are carrying the hearing live ...

Will Caylee Autopsy Be Released?

Judge will rule on
Caylee's autopsy

Links to the videos are not up yet

No mention on WFTV on live video ...

[bchand]

Originally Posted by denjet

Mornin' folks!
CFnews13 and MyFox Orlando sites are carrying the hearing live ...

Will Caylee Autopsy Be Released?

Judge will rule on
Caylee's autopsy

Links to the videos are not up yet

No mention on WFTV on live video ...

Thanks denjet!!! Just what I was wondering. Have to run up to the gym and get my 2 miles in. Will be back for it.

[cassidy]

Originally Posted by bchand

Thanks denjet!!! Just what I was wondering. Have to run up to the gym and get my 2 miles in. Will be back for it.

Awwwww man, you are ruining our image! FLB's don't go to gyms or run.