Friday, June 5, 2009 #1

[desmom]

One year ago today.....June 5, 2008

Cindy Anthony’s Birthday – the last time Lee Anthony believes he saw Caylee page 41 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1641627/...ee---Statement

Troy Brown’s Birthday – Amy, Ricardo, Troy and other friends went out – no Casey. Page 10 http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/tb092308.pdf

No text messages between Casey and Amy documented http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/...-Text-Messages

[Sun]

Good morning Desmom! Time is just flying by so fast.

[vagal]

Good Morning Everyone.
I may not post much but I do read or try to read every post to keep up. I have been following this since the call that Cindy made to the police...Thank everyone for all the links and great info for us to follow.

Only have one question. Does anyone know when the judge is going to make the ruling about the video. Please excuse the spelling. Not enough coffee yet.

[Sun]

Originally Posted by vagal

Good Morning Everyone.
I may not post much but I do read or try to read every post to keep up. I have been following this since the call that Cindy made to the police...Thank everyone for all the links and great info for us to follow.

Only have one question. Does anyone know when the judge is going to make the ruling about the video. Please excuse the spelling. Not enough coffee yet.

Good morning Vagal. No word yet about the jail video. Someone from the media did file a Motion on June 1, so there will likely be a court date set sometime in the future. I remember Lyon and LKB saying that they wouldn't be available before June 22 for a hearing, even though Judge Strickland indicated that he could most likely fit in an earlier date on his court docket.

[desmom]

Good Morning All!

We have received a lot of information in the doc dumps. I do not recall seeing anything from the FBI except for preliminary reports with notations final reports to follow.

I know the FBI's (and any other agency that is not a Florida agency) reports do not fall under the FL Sunshine Laws until they are given to the prosecution. Wouldn't the pros. have the final reports by now?

I want to know what the stain was in the trunk of the car, the results of the tests performed on the maggots, if the duct tape found on Caylee has the same thread pattern as the duct tape on the gas can, was the laundry bag the item at the scene that directly connected the crime scene to the Anthony home?

Also, I think LE has done interviews with more than the major players in Caylee's life. Have we seen a transcript for Mallory?

jmo

[Sun]

Originally Posted by desmom

Good Morning All!

We have received a lot of information in the doc dumps. I do not recall seeing anything from the FBI except for preliminary reports with notations final reports to follow.

I know the FBI's (and any other agency that is not a Florida agency) reports do not fall under the FL Sunshine Laws until they are given to the prosecution. Wouldn't the pros. have the final reports by now?

I want to know what the stain was in the trunk of the car, the results of the tests performed on the maggots, if the duct tape found on Caylee has the same thread pattern as the duct tape on the gas can, was the laundry bag the item at the scene that directly connected the crime scene to the Anthony home?

Also, I think LE has done interviews with more than the major players in Caylee's life. Have we seen a transcript for Mallory?

jmo

Desmon, I have never seen a transcript or listened to an audio for an interview with Mallory. And, Mallory was said to be with Lee when he went looking for Casey on July 2nd or 3rd.

Ah, the FBI stuff... Baez hasn't yet figured out how to get his hands on that stuff either. LOL If the FBI has not yet finished with their investigation, they may not release anything, as in reports or writings to the State. I am interested in any toxicology results obtained from any maggots/pupua.

[Sun]

Desmom, I am also quite curious to find out what the immediate need was for LE to immediately fingerprint George and Cindy just after Caylee's remains were found. It just makes me think that a latent or partials were found on something that day, as specific tests were conducted to rule them out on the duct tape. (but no mention of Casey's prints were ruled out). This stuff is probably all still with the FBI, and I think that we'll hear more of it come trial day.

[AMS]

Originally Posted by Sun

Desmon, I have never seen a transcript or listened to an audio for an interview with Mallory. And, Mallory was said to be with Lee when he went looking for Casey on July 2nd or 3rd.

Ah, the FBI stuff... Baez hasn't yet figured out how to get his hands on that stuff either. LOL If the FBI has not yet finished with their investigation, they may not release anything, as in reports or writings to the State. I am interested in any toxicology results obtained from any maggots/pupua.

Good morning all. Glad the board survived some afternoon turbulence yesterday.

I have never seen anything from Mallory either. This has been bothering me for some reason. Mallory has been a major part of the Ant family. I would think she would have lots of info to share. As LKL says - WEIRD.

imo

[sammy62]

Originally Posted by vagal

Good Morning Everyone.
I may not post much but I do read or try to read every post to keep up. I have been following this since the call that Cindy made to the police...Thank everyone for all the links and great info for us to follow.

Only have one question. Does anyone know when the judge is going to make the ruling about the video. Please excuse the spelling. Not enough coffee yet.

good morning. Nice test for us...this early in the morning. I couldn't find a misspelled word. LOL

[Or_is_it?]

Originally Posted by Dianna

Especially since they thought they could sneak over to the memorial site without getting caught. Again???
JMO

There is no bottom low with the Anthony's. What is this compulsion to lie? Major things, minor things. I've never seen anything like it.

[Or_is_it?]

Originally Posted by Sun

Good morning Vagal. No word yet about the jail video. Someone from the media did file a Motion on June 1, so there will likely be a court date set sometime in the future. I remember Lyon and LKB saying that they wouldn't be available before June 22 for a hearing, even though Judge Strickland indicated that he could most likely fit in an earlier date on his court docket.

Anyone know the new date Mitnick was returning to court. TIA!

[margaritaville]

Originally Posted by Sun

Desmon, I have never seen a transcript or listened to an audio for an interview with Mallory. And, Mallory was said to be with Lee when he went looking for Casey on July 2nd or 3rd.

Ah, the FBI stuff... Baez hasn't yet figured out how to get his hands on that stuff either. LOL If the FBI has not yet finished with their investigation, they may not release anything, as in reports or writings to the State. I am interested in any toxicology results obtained from any maggots/pupua.

How long does it take to conduct these tests? I have often heard a "six month" time line but am not sure if that is accurate.

If it is, the results should be getting back anytime now....

[Sun]

Originally Posted by Or_is_it?

There is no bottom low with the Anthony's. What is this compulsion to lie? Major things, minor things. I've never seen anything like it.

I would guess that LE has to deal with folks such as this on a regular basis. Probably many aren't as bad as the Anthony clan. What I find very unusual, is that the Anthonys appear to be getting their attorneys to also lie.

[desmom]

Originally Posted by Sun

Desmon, I have never seen a transcript or listened to an audio for an interview with Mallory. And, Mallory was said to be with Lee when he went looking for Casey on July 2nd or 3rd.

Ah, the FBI stuff... Baez hasn't yet figured out how to get his hands on that stuff either. LOL If the FBI has not yet finished with their investigation, they may not release anything, as in reports or writings to the State. I am interested in any toxicology results obtained from any maggots/pupua.

I forgot about Mallory being with Lee. IIRC, Mallory sent text messages or called Casey for Lee because Casey was ignoring Lee's messages/calls.

The events of July 3rd confuse me. In the depo, Cindy said she went to Universal to pick up Caylee because Casey said Caylee was at Universal. When Cindy arrived at Universal, she called Casey and Casey said they were not there. Also around the July 4th time line, Casey told Cindy they were in J'ville but Cindy sent Lee looking for Casey in the bars on July 3.

Why would Cindy send Lee out looking for Casey in Orlando bars if Casey was in J'ville? Why would Cindy go to Universal if they were in J'ville?

jmo

[Or_is_it?]

Originally Posted by margaritaville

How long does it take to conduct these tests? I have often heard a "six month" time line but am not sure if that is accurate.

If it is, the results should be getting back anytime now....

Well there's several variables. There's the actual conducting of the tests and then there's the interpretation of the tests. After that there's the formal write up of the conclusions. With no court date set or a date set which was always likely for it to be pushed back the FBI's priorities and work load are adjusted accordingly.

Although not formally pushed back, this case isn't going for a while. The FBI has no priority with this case and is using their manpower elsewhere IMO.

[Unleashed]

Originally Posted by sammy62

good morning. Nice test for us...this early in the morning. I couldn't find a misspelled word. LOL

No coffee for me yet, I couldn't find anything even if I tried!

Morning, all.

[desmom]

Originally Posted by Or_is_it?

Anyone know the new date Mitnick was returning to court. TIA!

I do not see anything listed on the case calendar for the civil suit.

[AMS]

I see LE is going to interview the Ant's in the cross-stealing, car-chasing event. What are people's thoughts on what will happen to the Ant's?


imo

[Sun]

Originally Posted by Or_is_it?

Anyone know the new date Mitnick was returning to court. TIA!

I check the Orange County Clerk of Courts every day, and so far no court date has been set. Here are the latest entries on their records.

6/1/2009 Motion To Stay OR DEFER THE CIVIL CASE UNTIL RESOLUTION OF THE PENDING CRIMINAL CASE
6/1/2009 Motion to Dismiss (RENEWED) THE PLTFS AMENDED COMPLAINT & MOTION FOR SANCTIONS
6/3/2009 Letter
6/3/2009 Order Granting Motion to Amend COMPLAINT

[Or_is_it?]

Originally Posted by Sun

I check the Orange County Clerk of Courts every day, and so far no court date has been set. Here are the latest entries on their records.

6/1/2009 Motion To Stay OR DEFER THE CIVIL CASE UNTIL RESOLUTION OF THE PENDING CRIMINAL CASE
6/1/2009 Motion to Dismiss (RENEWED) THE PLTFS AMENDED COMPLAINT & MOTION FOR SANCTIONS
6/3/2009 Letter
6/3/2009 Order Granting Motion to Amend COMPLAINT

Thanks Sun and Desmom.

I didn't know about the above motions filed. The above are Casey's lawyer I'm assuming.

My guess it's going to be awhile. Rodriguez seemed to have a pretty full docket and IIRC he had another engagement somewhere to be part of a panel or something.

[cassidy]

Originally Posted by desmom

Also, I think LE has done interviews with more than the major players in Caylee's life. Have we seen a transcript for Mallory?

jmo

We really don't know much about Mallory, do we? Except that she and her Mom are involved with the "foundation". Isn't her Mom on the board? The media seems to steer clear of them/

JMO

[msgatorslayer]

Originally Posted by desmom

I forgot about Mallory being with Lee. IIRC, Mallory sent text messages or called Casey for Lee because Casey was ignoring Lee's messages/calls.

The events of July 3rd confuse me. In the depo, Cindy said she went to Universal to pick up Caylee because Casey said Caylee was at Universal. When Cindy arrived at Universal, she called Casey and Casey said they were not there. Also around the July 4th time line, Casey told Cindy they were in J'ville but Cindy sent Lee looking for Casey in the bars on July 3.

Why would Cindy send Lee out looking for Casey in Orlando bars if Casey was in J'ville? Why would Cindy go to Universal if they were in J'ville?

jmo

G'morning!!

IMO, Cindy is holding something back.

Did Cindy go to Universal on her own? Surely, Casey didn't ask her to come there and pick Caylee up. One, Casey didn't work there. Two, Caylee was gone.

Cindy was on a mission to get Caylee. She drove over to Universal. Calls Casey. Then what? Casey says Caylee is not there anymore so Cindy just leaves? I think Cindy went to pick up Caylee and found out Casey didn't work there.

This is why she writes her 'My Caylee is Missing' mypost post on the same day.

And then sends detective Lee to look for her.

[Sun]

Originally Posted by desmom

I forgot about Mallory being with Lee. IIRC, Mallory sent text messages or called Casey for Lee because Casey was ignoring Lee's messages/calls.

The events of July 3rd confuse me. In the depo, Cindy said she went to Universal to pick up Caylee because Casey said Caylee was at Universal. When Cindy arrived at Universal, she called Casey and Casey said they were not there. Also around the July 4th time line, Casey told Cindy they were in J'ville but Cindy sent Lee looking for Casey in the bars on July 3.

Why would Cindy send Lee out looking for Casey in Orlando bars if Casey was in J'ville? Why would Cindy go to Universal if they were in J'ville?

jmo

Are you really asking "why" Cindy would do the things that she does? LOL Why would Cindy & George do yard work, replace or reset pavers under Caylee's playhouse, during the first week of July? That has to be one of the hottest weeks of the summer. And why did neither Cindy or George call 911 when they smelled the car?

[msgatorslayer]

Originally Posted by AMS

I see LE is going to interview the Ant's in the cross-stealing, car-chasing event. What are people's thoughts on what will happen to the Ant's?


imo

I doubt anything will happen to them. Unless Lois has some proof and captured it on tape.

[Sun]

chuckles ....why Cindy does and says some of the stuff that she has, is a mystery to me. No matter how hard I try, I just can't think like she does.

[toadii]

The quote below is from the official "buy-a-bear" website.
It must be too soon to publish the invited/disinvited list with the*only the purest in heart * type participation requirement.
I hope all goes well for those who can attend the JBP memorial. Cindy does not like to take a backseat and this memorial preempts what she may/may not be planning. Remember she claims to have kept the BD cake and presents from last year, which could well provide props for her next performance of unconditional love.

"At this time the Anthony's will not be holding a vigil for Caylee in June. We may be planning one for her birthday in August. Please watch the website for further details"

[Sun]

Originally Posted by Or_is_it?

Thanks Sun and Desmom.

I didn't know about the above motions filed. The above are Casey's lawyer I'm assuming.

My guess it's going to be awhile. Rodriguez seemed to have a pretty full docket and IIRC he had another engagement somewhere to be part of a panel or something.

Yes, Kasen is once again trying to get the Civil Case dismissed or stayed until after the Criminal Case. Since he has a counter-claim against ZG, I just wonder if that might allow Judge Rodriguez to deny staying the Civil Case. If Kasen doesn't come up with any better reasons to dismiss, than he did in the last hearing, he's going to lose that motion.

[shellzbi]

Originally Posted by AMS

I see LE is going to interview the Ant's in the cross-stealing, car-chasing event. What are people's thoughts on what will happen to the Ant's?


imo

Good Morning, The Ant's should have had there hands slapped by LE back in July when this whole mess came to light.

They are IMO the most annoying and lying group of people. They have hindered this case from the very start of this whole circus.

I'd love to see Cindy finally get her just desserts.

Greedy , Money Hungry. That's the Anthony Family. JMO.

[EverMoth]

Originally Posted by Sun

Desmom, I am also quite curious to find out what the immediate need was for LE to immediately fingerprint George and Cindy just after Caylee's remains were found. It just makes me think that a latent or partials were found on something that day, as specific tests were conducted to rule them out on the duct tape. (but no mention of Casey's prints were ruled out). This stuff is probably all still with the FBI, and I think that we'll hear more of it come trial day.

GM everyone! This is what I think too. I found it highly suspicious when everyone in the family was named and found to be excluded except Casey. No mention of her at all. I would think, if she would have been excluded, her name would have been mentioned. This tells me she isn't excluded.

Anyone know if the results pertaining to Casey could have been sealed?

[doradoll]

Originally Posted by msgatorslayer

G'morning!!

IMO, Cindy is holding something back.

Did Cindy go to Universal on her own? Surely, Casey didn't ask her to come there and pick Caylee up. One, Casey didn't work there. Two, Caylee was gone.

Cindy was on a mission to get Caylee. She drove over to Universal. Calls Casey. Then what? Casey says Caylee is not there anymore so Cindy just leaves? I think Cindy went to pick up Caylee and found out Casey didn't work there.

This is why she writes her 'My Caylee is Missing' mypost post on the same day.

And then sends detective Lee to look for her.

she used this tactic (getting Cindy out of the house) often, so that she could get into the house undetected.....she would tell Cindy that she would have Caylee here or there, only to leave Cindy a text or call that plans had changed

I am no Cindy fan, but I can see why she penned that note that day.

[doradoll]

btw, did anyone look into the comma spacing intrigue of yesterday?

[EverMoth]

Originally Posted by doradoll

btw, did anyone look into the comma spacing intrigue of yesterday?

Someone must have because Comma Spacer is now banned.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally Posted by doradoll

she used this tactic (getting Cindy out of the house) often, so that she could get into the house undetected.....she would tell Cindy that she would have Caylee here or there, only to leave Cindy a text or call that plans had changed

I am no Cindy fan, but I can see why she penned that note that day.

Right! But to lead Cindy to Universal? Does she know that her Mom really is that stupid? If I was in the same shoes, no way would I ask my Mom to come to my fake job.

[breezie]

Originally Posted by cassidy

We really don't know much about Mallory, do we? Except that she and her Mom are involved with the "foundation". Isn't her Mom on the board? The media seems to steer clear of them/

JMO

we know that she refers to herself as *Mally Boo*

[msgatorslayer]

Originally Posted by Dianna

Good morning...
She carries so many lies maybe she forgot she didn't work there.
JMO

Funny!

[Pam1569]

Originally Posted by desmom

I do not see anything listed on the case calendar for the civil suit.

GM des

Didn't Judge Rodriguez say that Mitnik would have to send someone everyday to the courthouse to check the case calendar in case there might be an opening for him to apply for the new motion hearing then, because his (the judge) was full for the rest of the month. But there is always cancellations and that he could possible find one and have his slipped in then?

Also just a question about the criminal case. I know I heard that LKB and AL couldn't be present until the week of June 22nd, but didn't Strickland, before calling the attorneys to the bench say that they could be at the next hearing via the phone?

[*MoonRider*]

Originally Posted by desmom

One year ago today.....June 5, 2008

Cindy Anthony’s Birthday – the last time Lee Anthony believes he saw Caylee page 41 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1641627/...ee---Statement

Troy Brown’s Birthday – Amy, Ricardo, Troy and other friends went out – no Casey. Page 10 http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/tb092308.pdf

No text messages between Casey and Amy documented http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/...-Text-Messages

Casey not texting Amy for an entire day is unusual especially with a party going on. Do we know where she was? Cindy thinks so highly of herself she took a whole week off of work to celebrate her birthday. Wonder what she has planned for today?

[apothecary]

Originally Posted by msgatorslayer

G'morning!!

IMO, Cindy is holding something back.

Did Cindy go to Universal on her own? Surely, Casey didn't ask her to come there and pick Caylee up. One, Casey didn't work there. Two, Caylee was gone.

Cindy was on a mission to get Caylee. She drove over to Universal. Calls Casey. Then what? Casey says Caylee is not there anymore so Cindy just leaves? I think Cindy went to pick up Caylee and found out Casey didn't work there.

This is why she writes her 'My Caylee is Missing' mypost post on the same day.

And then sends detective Lee to look for her.

That same day Jesse receives a message from Casey to ignore any incoming calls from her parents.She said she would explain some time when she was drunk.About this time Cindy phones a friend of Casey's and tells him Casey is a psychopath.That weekend they redo their yard possibly looking for something..Something is brewing here.

[Pam1569]

Originally Posted by msgatorslayer

Right! But to lead Cindy to Universal? Does she know that her Mom really is that stupid? If I was in the same shoes, no way would I ask my Mom to come to my fake job.

GM msgator, Yes I do think that OC believes that she is the smartest one in that family, because she has pulled the wool over there eyes so many times. Even when she was confronted by Cindy over a lie she must have made another lie to explain this is what really happened just like she is trying to do now. jmo But imo it just isn't going to work in the criminal case. OC is not going to win this with lies she will be made to finally get to pay the consequence of lying.

ETA: does anyone have R. Grund e-mail? TIA
ETA: Thunder storms are back. Be back in a little bit.

[Sun]

Originally Posted by *MoonRider*

Casey not texting Amy for an entire day is unusual especially with a party going on. Do we know where she was? Cindy thinks so highly of herself she took a whole week off of work to celebrate her birthday. Wonder what she has planned for today?

Loved your statement that "Cindy thinks so highly of herself"! Was that the date that Lee said that he last saw Caylee?