Friday, May 29, 2009 #1

[desmom]

Good Morning!

On Friday, May 29, 2008, Ricardo said Casey spent the night. page 7 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...25,%202008.pdf

[desmom]

DePaul law professor, a death-penalty expert, joins Casey Anthony defense
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/servi...,6450576.story

Three months ago, nationally known death-penalty attorney Andrea Lyon spoke in Orlando at a seminar on capital punishment put on by the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.

Removal of Caylee Anthony's makeshift memorial remains mystery
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...s-mystery.html

Caylee Anthony – Baez Reveals Part Of His Poker Hand
http://www.bloggernews.net/121043

[ladeebug565]

I just watched yesterday's proceedings. I can't believe JB actually said that Jesse and Amy were suspects despite the fact that they both took, and presumably passed, lie-detector tests. Why would they be? When it was discovered that Caylee was missing, she was already gone for a month. Her mother was too afraid of Jesse and Amy (enough to steal the latter's money for shopping sprees at Target) that she had to go barhopping and pole dancing to find Jesse and Amy? She knew exactly where they were the whole time. Nope, Casey has backed herself into a corner with her Zanny story. Now, Cindy can make believe that Zanny is code for Jesse or Amy, but it just doesn't compute.

[desmom]

Originally Posted by ladeebug565

I just watched yesterday's proceedings. I can't believe JB actually said that Jesse and Amy were suspects despite the fact that they both took, and presumably passed, lie-detector tests. Why would they be? When it was discovered that Caylee was missing, she was already gone for a month. Her mother was too afraid of Jesse and Amy (enough to steal the latter's money for shopping sprees at Target) that she had to go barhopping and pole dancing to find Jesse and Amy? She knew exactly where they were the whole time. Nope, Casey has backed herself into a corner with her Zanny story. Now, Cindy can make believe that Zanny is code for Jesse or Amy, but it just doesn't compute.

Yep, I agree! She was afraid of Amy, but stole from Amy. She was afraid of Jesse, but called him for help when she "ran out of gas" on June 27, used his shower on July 1 and on July 3 she sent him a text saying, "There's something going on with my family right now. If my mom tries to call you don't say anything. Stay out of it. I'll take care of it."

JB may try to say Casey was afraid of them, but her actions show otherwise.....imo

[AMS]

Good morning all -

JVM said last night that Andrea Lyon is reprotedly an actress, known to cry in front of juries.

One of the THs said they are interested to see how a Florida jury would respond to Lyon. She is used to big city juries and the Florida group may be very different.

imo

[Bala]

Does anyone know that if Baez is going to accuse Jesse or Annie on the stand does he have to make them aware of it ahead of time so they can have council present. Are they entitled to a pro bono lawyer if they can't afford one. How do witnesses protect themselves from being thrown under the bus by unscrupulous lawyers and desperate baby killers?

[Explorer]

Originally Posted by Bala

Does anyone know that if Baez is going to accuse Jesse or Annie on the stand does he have to make them aware of it ahead of time so they can have council present. Are they entitled to a pro bono lawyer if they can't afford one. How do witnesses protect themselves from being thrown under the bus by unscrupulous lawyers and desperate baby killers?

Thats a great question. What do they do if law enforcement didnt name them as a suspect.

[Explorer]

One poster said they are going to try to blame Jesse. All the others is just a smokescreen.

[kOOkie1]

Good Morning..
It will be interesting to see how A.Lyons interacts with Casey and if the Jury buys what she is going to be selling. I hope she has better acting skills then Casey when it comes to shedding tears.

[Explorer]

For example they say they want phone records for Kronk Amy Jesse but the other people are smokescreens they want to get at Jesse. What I dont like is that the DP lawyer said innocent which makes me think they are going to try to frame Jesse.

[Explorer]

I wouldnt be surprised if the PI went to the woods to plant something from Jesse in the bag with the remains.

[Explorer]

I think all the a's are in on it and thats why they needed a private jail visit CaA. If anything like that was ever proven they better charge the entire hand family plus jose.

[Explorer]

I hope the Grunds are on Red Alert.

[marshmallow]

Originally Posted by Explorer

For example they say they want phone records for Kronk Amy Jesse but the other people are smokescreens they want to get at Jesse. What I dont like is that the DP lawyer said innocent which makes me think they are going to try to frame Jesse.

if Casey demands they use an "innocent" defense do her attys have to follow her wishes?

[Explorer]

Originally Posted by marshmallow

if Casey demands they use an "innocent" defense do her attys have to follow her wishes?

I just got the joke about band camp. Been there done that

[jammies]

Originally Posted by kOOkie1

Good Morning..
It will be interesting to see how A.Lyons interacts with Casey and if the Jury buys what she is going to be selling. I hope she has better acting skills then Casey when it comes to shedding tears.

The good people of FLA will have been living with this for over a year when trial comes around. Can't imagine them truckin' with some out of state lawyer who's prone to hysteronics. I going to guess most people on the jury will have had enough of Casey Anthony and her lying family. They have been in their FACE daily for almost a year now and I don't see the media dying down any time soon.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by Explorer

I wouldnt be surprised if the PI went to the woods to plant something from Jesse in the bag with the remains.

Me either. So who told the PI (DC) where to locate Caylee's remains? That's the million dollar question, isn't it?

[marshmallow]

Originally Posted by jammies

The good people of FLA will have been living with this for over a year when trial comes around. Can't imagine them truckin' with some out of state lawyer who's prone to hysteronics. I going to guess most people on the jury will have had enough of Casey Anthony and her lying family. They have been in their FACE daily for almost a year now and I don't see the media dying down any time soon.

I think the defenses blatent, in your face, 'you people are dumb if you don't believe us' attitude will be a detriment. The defense seems to have adopted the Casey'tude and it will harm her more than help her. No one likes being smirked at or played like they're dumb and it seems to be a trait all the defense team member have in common. The "we're smarter than everyone and just because you see a brick doesn't mean it isn't a diamond so believe it's a diamond because we said so" attitude.

[Ckrdpast]

jose is on the TODAY show right now

[AMS]

Originally Posted by Ckrdpast

jose is on the TODAY show right now

Let us know what he says.

[haveaniceday]

JB running off his mouth again on today show.
I don;t kn ow why they give him the time.
He says nothing

[*MoonRider*]

Originally Posted by Ckrdpast

jose is on the TODAY show right now

GM, thanks for the heads up. He sure didn't waste any time getting his mug on the National Media again.

[bchand]

Originally Posted by Ckrdpast

jose is on the TODAY show right now

Glad you're watching it too Ckrdpast. Am I wrong or did he say he will enjoy working FOR Andrea Lyon?

[Bala]

I hope the prosecutors use this to fight the change of venue. Talk about your hippocrates the defense is the ones you always see in the media.

[Elle]

Originally Posted by desmom

DePaul law professor, a death-penalty expert, joins Casey Anthony defense
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/servi...,6450576.story

Three months ago, nationally known death-penalty attorney Andrea Lyon spoke in Orlando at a seminar on capital punishment put on by the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.

Removal of Caylee Anthony's makeshift memorial remains mystery
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...s-mystery.html

Caylee Anthony – Baez Reveals Part Of His Poker Hand
http://www.bloggernews.net/121043

Good morning
Thanks for posting these. I have only read the last one so far (many books have been ruined by this style I have lol) and while I know that people have been shoved under the bus left and right, and while I know that Jesse has been a target, it infuriates me to no end that a man that loved Caylee purely, unconditionally, with heart and soul, a man who loved Casey, is being stalked by this 'defense' team with Casey and the Anthony's blessing. How disgusting. Baez' poker hand sucks.
imo

[bchand]

Originally Posted by haveaniceday

JB running off his mouth again on today show.
I don;t kn ow why they give him the time.
He says nothing

Oh he did say this has been hard on poor Casey.

Really I guess she thinks her time out should be up.

[marshmallow]

Originally Posted by Elle

Good morning
Thanks for posting these. I have only read the last one so far (many books have been ruined by this style I have lol) and while I know that people have been shoved under the bus left and right, and while I know that Jesse has been a target, it infuriates me to no end that a man that loved Caylee purely, unconditionally, with heart and soul, a man who loved Casey, is being stalked by this 'defense' team with Casey and the Anthony's blessing. How disgusting. Baez' poker hand sucks.
imo

in order for them to go with a Jesse did it approach they're going to need to put Casey on the stand. I just don't see them being that dense. Once she's on the stand it's a festival of truth for the State.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by marshmallow

I think the defenses blatent, in your face, 'you people are dumb if you don't believe us' attitude will be a detriment. The defense seems to have adopted the Casey'tude and it will harm her more than help her. No one likes being smirked at or played like they're dumb and it seems to be a trait all the defense team member have in common. The "we're smarter than everyone and just because you see a brick doesn't mean it isn't a diamond so believe it's a diamond because we said so" attitude.

I agree. The defense teams style won't go over well. I'm beginning to wonder if "Zanny" will come up at all in their defense. If they run with the invisible nanny it will be a slam dunk for the pros.

[cassidy]

Originally Posted by bchand

Oh he did say this has been hard on poor Casey.

Really I guess she thinks her time out should be up.

Awww...he's trying to tug at our heartstrings isn't he?
NOT WORKING JOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JMO

[marshmallow]

Originally Posted by jammies

I agree. The defense teams style won't go over well. I'm beginning to wonder if "Zanny" will come up at all in their defense. If they run with the invisible nanny it will be a slam dunk for the pros.

to be honest, no defense will work at this point. maybe the "Cindy did it and Casey's covering for her" defense but even that's weak.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally Posted by *MoonRider*

GM, thanks for the heads up. He sure didn't waste any time getting his mug on the National Media again.

G'morning!

I know the correct thing to do is give Jose his COV. But boy, oh boy, outta spite, I say, you help create the media frenzy, deal with it!!

[AMS]

Originally Posted by marshmallow

to be honest, no defense will work at this point. maybe the "Cindy did it and Casey's covering for her" defense but even that's weak.

Sounds like Lyon is a smart woman whose primary goal is to prevent the DP. Do you think there is the possibility she would get Casey to take a plea to prevent the DP?

imo

[Scampi]

Good morning everyone! Thanks for all those great links
Des.

Last night Nancy Grace discussed whether or not what the jail did was "legal" here is her discussion with Mr. Sheaffer, the legal analyst from WFTV:

BILL SHEAFFER, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTY. WFTV LEGAL ANALYST, IN COURT TODAY: It was a common area and that in and of itself, in my mind, defeats this claim that there was some violation of her right to privacy. I mean, where was she? She`s in the Orange County jail, for heaven`s sakes.

GRACE: And let me point out not too delicately, Mr. Sheaffer, that she`s in jail. They can watch her take a poop if they want to much less sit in a common area with other people.

And also, Mr. Sheaffer, I know you and I have traditionally been on different sides of the fence, but let me remind you of the U.S. Supreme Court case and the Christian Burial case which we all learned in law school. The cops can even trick somebody, for instance, into a confession as long as their constitutional rights are not violated.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../28/ng.01.html

Our Nancy has such a descriptive way with words, don't she?

[marshmallow]

Originally Posted by AMS

Sounds like Lyon is a smart woman whoe primary goal is to prevent the DP. Do you think there is the possibility she would get Casey to take a plea to prevent the DP?

imo

I think that depends on how it would reflect on Lyon's record. Would it count as a case win for her? if not, then no I don't think she'd bother.
(being honest, not mean)

[cassidy]

Originally Posted by AMS

Sounds like Lyon is a smart woman whoe primary goal is to prevent the DP. Do you think there is the possibility she would get Casey to take a plea to prevent the DP?

imo

She might, if she can get past Jose brainwashing Casey into believeing that he can get her off totally.

JMO

[AMS]

Originally Posted by Scampi

Good morning everyone! Thanks for all those great links
Des.

Last night Nancy Grace discussed whether or not what the jail did was "legal" here is her discussion with Mr. Sheaffer, the legal analyst from WFTV:

BILL SHEAFFER, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTY. WFTV LEGAL ANALYST, IN COURT TODAY: It was a common area and that in and of itself, in my mind, defeats this claim that there was some violation of her right to privacy. I mean, where was she? She`s in the Orange County jail, for heaven`s sakes.

GRACE: And let me point out not too delicately, Mr. Sheaffer, that she`s in jail. They can watch her take a poop if they want to much less sit in a common area with other people.

snipped for space

Our Nancy has such a descriptive way with words, don't she?

Good morning - NG did make me laugh last night with her poop statement.

imo

[bchand]

Originally Posted by Scampi

Good morning everyone! Thanks for all those great links
Des.

Last night Nancy Grace discussed whether or not what the jail did was "legal" here is her discussion with Mr. Sheaffer, the legal analyst from WFTV:

BILL SHEAFFER, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTY. WFTV LEGAL ANALYST, IN COURT TODAY: It was a common area and that in and of itself, in my mind, defeats this claim that there was some violation of her right to privacy. I mean, where was she? She`s in the Orange County jail, for heaven`s sakes.

GRACE: And let me point out not too delicately, Mr. Sheaffer, that she`s in jail. They can watch her take a poop if they want to much less sit in a common area with other people.

And also, Mr. Sheaffer, I know you and I have traditionally been on different sides of the fence, but let me remind you of the U.S. Supreme Court case and the Christian Burial case which we all learned in law school. The cops can even trick somebody, for instance, into a confession as long as their constitutional rights are not violated.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../28/ng.01.html

Our Nancy has such a descriptive way with words, don't she?

Nancy is definitely in "Mommy mode" Scamp.

[Neffy]

Originally Posted by marshmallow

I think that depends on how it would reflect on Lyon's record. Would it count as a case win for her? if not, then no I don't think she'd bother.
(being honest, not mean)

It would put another notch in her "win" column. If she succeeds in getting the DP off the table before or at the start of trial she will also leave the case as she would be no longer needed by law.

[Scampi]

Originally Posted by AMS

Sounds like Lyon is a smart woman whoe primary goal is to prevent the DP. Do you think there is the possibility she would get Casey to take a plea to prevent the DP?

imo

Hiya A!! I absolutely think Lyon's first priority will be to sit down with casey anthony and make certain she understands the legal situation she is in and then outline all options.

The OC will stick to her ridiculous claim of innocence and Lyon will take it from there.

Did you watch the after court mini pc with all of the defense lawyers? That pc told the tale, baez had the case taken from him right there on the courthouse steps, imo. Andrea Lyon knows what she is doing and will run this case accordingly. The OC is very lucky to have her.

I am looking forward to reading her motions, it will be a pleasure after the gibberish from baez.

[Elle]

Originally Posted by marshmallow

in order for them to go with a Jesse did it approach they're going to need to put Casey on the stand. I just don't see them being that dense. Once she's on the stand it's a festival of truth for the State.

I would love to see Linda Drane Burdick go after her, though I agree, I cannot imagine even this defense team letting that happen.

imo