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George & Cindy Told to Back Off........(Ltr. to Geo.& Cindy)
I was just wondering what everyone thought of Ron Cummings asking George & Cindy to back off from any involvement in his Daughter, Haleigh's Case?
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I think Ron Cummings telling George and Cindy to back off of any involvement in his daughter's case is highly commendable.
And smart.
And appropriate.
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Originally Posted by ♫Rock*Star♫
I think Ron Cummings telling George and Cindy to back off of any involvement in his daughter's case is highly commendable.
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Hi, Rock*Star! - I completely agree with you. It's about time someone put George & Cindy in their place. He should be congratulated! However, I don't think George & Cindy are smart enough to be embarrassed. They have no shame.
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Originally Posted by Booklover
I was just wondering what everyone thought of Ron Cummings asking George & Cindy to back off from any involvement in his Daughter, Haleigh's Case?
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Hi Book..
I haven't been following Haleighs case but and I don't know much of anything about this Ron.. But IF it was my child.. I wouldn't want them either.
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Hi Book..
I haven't been following Haleighs case but and I don't know much of anything about this Ron.. But IF it was my child.. I wouldn't want them either.
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Hi, AJandTam! Ron's Attorney is most probably the one who wants George & Cindy to back off. At any rate, I sure can't blame him. George & Cindy are only interested in themselves, and freeing their Sociopath Daughter, Casey. They are completely disrespecting Caylee by covering up for Casey. It's almost as if her life had no meaning to them. I think that's pretty disgusting, and very sad.
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Unbelievable huh Book. If all of these families and/or thier legal teams, send the A's packing. Maybe they will quit this bull.
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Ha, I got off my "fat lazy a$$" and gave the man a standing ovation!
I felt sorry for Crystal with cindy pawing her and all.
Just ick!
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Ha, I got off my "fat lazy a$$" and gave the man a standing ovation!
I felt sorry for Crystal with cindy pawing her and all.
Just ick!
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Ewww, I don't know who Crystal is but brang the girl some bleach, lysol. Whatever ya got!!!!!!
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I commend Ron! I think he sees the Anthony's like 99.9% of the people in the country see them and he has made it clear what he thinks of them.
It won't matter. Cindy will just continue as long as Crystal allows her and blame Ron's not wanting them there on Ron's relationship with Crystal.
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Hi Book..
I haven't been following Haleighs case but and I don't know much of anything about this Ron.. But IF it was my child.. I wouldn't want them either.
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i'm with you on this one!
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Good for Ron 
George and Cindy should clean up their own backyard before traipsing into someone Else's.
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Originally Posted by Tia
I commend Ron! I think he sees the Anthony's like 99.9% of the people in the country see them and he has made it clear what he thinks of them.
It won't matter. Cindy will just continue as long as Crystal allows her and blame Ron's not wanting them there on Ron's relationship with Crystal.
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Hit the nail on the head. This should be interesting.
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Unbelievable huh Book. If all of these families and/or thier legal teams, send the A's packing. Maybe they will quit this bull.
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It sure is, AJ&Tam! I wish there was some way for those seeking justice for Caylee to confront George & Cindy. They should be asked, point blank, WHY if they truly believe Casey, aren't they out looking for the "Nanny"? Cindy "claims" she had addresses, and phone numbers for the "Nanny", and yet she NEVER made any attempt to contact her. Doesn't anyone have enough sense to ask her this question?
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Ha, I got off my "fat lazy a$$" and gave the man a standing ovation!
I felt sorry for Crystal with cindy pawing her and all.
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I hear you, Heyes! Cindy makes a lousy actress, even though she really loves drama.
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Originally Posted by Tia
I commend Ron! I think he sees the Anthony's like 99.9% of the people in the country see them and he has made it clear what he thinks of them.
It won't matter. Cindy will just continue as long as Crystal allows her and blame Ron's not wanting them there on Ron's relationship with Crystal.
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Hi, Tia! I also think Crystal is foolish for allowing George & Cindy anywhere near her. It's not surprising that Casey turned out to be what she is, just take a look at Cindy. She didn't deserve Caylee, and Caylee, most definitely didn't deserve her.
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George & Cindy rate a big Zero!
It looks like we all agree on George & Cindy's character, or lack thereof, and their motives.
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Message to George & Cindy.....
If you were able to, what would you like to say to George & Cindy? Now, please remember, no cursing!
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Please, for everyone's sake, let it go. This is not about you. This is about Caylee, your grandaughter. Your 15 minutes are up, and it's time to go home.
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Close the door to media attention.
Stand up to your daughter and tell her you KNOW what she has done, in spite of it, you love her unconditionally, and though she has ruined her life, you will stand by her as long as she needs you.
Take charge of your lives. Stop seeking out support for Casey, it's futile. Everyone knows what she has done, including you.
It must be very difficult to deal with, but you must pick up the pieces of your lives and move on.
Get involved in your Church. Give up the dream of fame and fortune, and find your rewards in helping those in need.
If you must find healing through volunteering, stop trying to be in control, and seek out a charity that you can serve, be it abused children, homeless, victims of crime, but remove yourself from the limelight and be a servant, you cannot be a leader, sadly, leadership is not one of your strong points at this time.
You need to allow yourselves to grieve. Healing will come, even joy, through helping others in need.
Give up the "Finding Missing Children" agenda.
You couldn't find your way out of a dark closet right now.
You need to seek God, truth, and walk in His Light.
You have a long ordeal ahead of you,don't allow Casey to guilt you into believing it's all your fault. Stop buying into her lies, the gig is up.
Talk to her, even if news media listens.
Tell her to plea, tell the truth, and throw herself at the mercy of the court, and hopefully she will find peace with what she has done, and instead of spending her life in prison, or dying young, she could wind up with a possibility of 20yrs, with a parole possibility, at least she'll have some life left to live on the outside. Tell Baez to take a flying flip.
A confession will out the real truth, and end this circus.
IMO, by doing these things, you will begin to find healing, gain some of the respect you have totally lost of the the public, and set an example to your daughter that TRUTH and Justice must prevail.
If I could speak to you, this is what I would say.
Who REALLY knows what led to the tragedy of losing Caylee?
Only one person, that is Casey. It could take time, but the TRUTH shall set her free, not free as she would perhaps long for in her young life, yet freedom at an earlier time, and a chance for a second chance.
May God Bless and allow this to find your eyes, and your husbands, and find a way to find peace in your tumultuous life. 
Good Luck and God go with you.
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ok well I could write a book but I wont
I would like to ask them what part of missing do they not get. Caylee was never missing Casey was a adult she owed you nothing as far as talking or seeing Caylee you had no custody she was never missing she was killed and dumped by your daughter fine if you want to support her but you are only harming her she is up for the needle and you keep going on these shows and telling lie after lie just be honest and then support your Granddaughters memory and sit beside your daughters side instead of continuing all the same lies when families of missing children do not want any part of you it speaks volumes..have you ever thanked anyone who was out searching for caylee when your daughter knew just were she was..NO like I said I could go on and on but until you stop all the lies and this phony foundation with KFN you will always be looked at in a bad way...all JMO..
Biggest question if this was my child on trial and could get the DP I would be busting down doors and hire 20 PI's to find the real killer if you really believe what Casey has told you..this is your daughters life and you are leaving it up to a lawyer you all have said you did or do not like and you are allowing him to search for the real Nanny..PLEASE come on you all know she did it there is no child murderer out there..
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I will say I was so happy to hear this but then I also know Ron had his own motive him and Crystal are in a huge battle so of course they all could not be attending this vigil so to me it was more of a bash on Crystal not the Anthony's..that case is about as much of a circus as this one so IMO they seem about equal..and that is my opinion on it..
I am happy the Anthony's were called out not by RC but his lawyers but feel they really had or have no right to say who others such as his ex associates with he is not such a straight shooter himself..or perhaps he was afraid his one time live in G/F was there to watch his children and one was taken away in the middle of the night under her watch 4 feet away from her and she still to this date has not given a timeline but he goes and marries her..PLEASE..I see Jerry springer with all of them..so they all deserve to be on the same island until someone talks and little Haleigh is brought home they only want everyone to forget about it or not associate her being missing on a family member LE has said it was NOT a stranger abduction..so it was someone who they know or knew or hung out with... IMO..and the key is his wife that came straight from LE..
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Originally Posted by Tia
I commend Ron! I think he sees the Anthony's like 99.9% of the people in the country see them and he has made it clear what he thinks of them.
It won't matter. Cindy will just continue as long as Crystal allows her and blame Ron's not wanting them there on Ron's relationship with Crystal.
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it is not up to Crystal this was a national vigil some act like she was running this she was there they were there she could not tell them to leave.
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Lets not forget this is Caylee's thread please
OK First of all no one can tell this mother who should attend a vigil it was a national vigil they held one for Trenton D also but in leesburg IIRC..did they go out to eat did they go to the Ritz did they hand crystal a freaking boat to find her daughter NO she was there they were there and who do people think they are judging Crystal over them..she could not tell them to leave ofgs some need to see RC had his motive and many want to praise him because HIS LAWYERS put out that statement..end of story not even going there any longer this is just why I left the Haleigh thread it has its bash RC poster and the bash Crystal posters it is a total joke and really has no business on caylee's thread..JMO of course..I don't want to see the circus moving over here to bash either parent who has not 1 thing to do with CAYLEE... JMO of course..
yes I am so happy they were called out once again just do not like the fact it is turning into everything other than a national vigil for missing children and some are and will try to bring over the bashing it needs to stay over there IMO..
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Please, for everyone's sake, let it go. This is not about you. This is about Caylee, your grandaughter. Your 15 minutes are up, and it's time to go home.
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That's pretty good, velvetbrown. If only they would see what they're doing to Caylee. Unfortunately, they love themselves, and the camera too much.
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Originally Posted by Susie419
Close the door to media attention.
Stand up to your daughter and tell her you KNOW what she has done, in spite of it, you love her unconditionally, and though she has ruined her life, you will stand by her as long as she needs you.
Take charge of your lives. Stop seeking out support for Casey, it's futile. Everyone knows what she has done, including you.
It must be very difficult to deal with, but you must pick up the pieces of your lives and move on.
Get involved in your Church. Give up the dream of fame and fortune, and find your rewards in helping those in need.
If you must find healing through volunteering, stop trying to be in control, and seek out a charity that you can serve, be it abused children, homeless, victims of crime, but remove yourself from the limelight and be a servant, you cannot be a leader, sadly, leadership is not one of your strong points at this time.
You need to allow yourselves to grieve. Healing will come, even joy, through helping others in need.
Give up the "Finding Missing Children" agenda.
You couldn't find your way out of a dark closet right now.
You need to seek God, truth, and walk in His Light.
You have a long ordeal ahead of you,don't allow Casey to guilt you into believing it's all your fault. Stop buying into her lies, the gig is up.
Talk to her, even if news media listens.
Tell her to plea, tell the truth, and throw herself at the mercy of the court, and hopefully she will find peace with what she has done, and instead of spending her life in prison, or dying young, she could wind up with a possibility of 20yrs, with a parole possibility, at least she'll have some life left to live on the outside. Tell Baez to take a flying flip.
A confession will out the real truth, and end this circus.
IMO, by doing these things, you will begin to find healing, gain some of the respect you have totally lost of the the public, and set an example to your daughter that TRUTH and Justice must prevail.
If I could speak to you, this is what I would say.
Who REALLY knows what led to the tragedy of losing Caylee?
Only one person, that is Casey. It could take time, but the TRUTH shall set her free, not free as she would perhaps long for in her young life, yet freedom at an earlier time, and a chance for a second chance.
May God Bless and allow this to find your eyes, and your husbands, and find a way to find peace in your tumultuous life. 
Good Luck and God go with you.
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Excellent post, Susie419! Unfortunately, I don't think George & Cindy are capable of facing the truth, much less telling it.
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"Distance makes the heart grow fonder." People like you better when you are not in their face. Your mean and aggressive behavior is hurting your daughter's defense and increasing public hostility against her. Consider a tactical retreat; you can regroup and return later in a kinder, gentler supporting role.
And don't flip the bird anymore while you are in a courtroom. The judge or jury may see you.
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ok well I could write a book but I wont
I would like to ask them what part of missing do they not get. Caylee was never missing Casey was a adult she owed you nothing as far as talking or seeing Caylee you had no custody she was never missing she was killed and dumped by your daughter fine if you want to support her but you are only harming her she is up for the needle and you keep going on these shows and telling lie after lie just be honest and then support your Granddaughters memory and sit beside your daughters side instead of continuing all the same lies when families of missing children do not want any part of you it speaks volumes..have you ever thanked anyone who was out searching for caylee when your daughter knew just were she was..NO like I said I could go on and on but until you stop all the lies and this phony foundation with KFN you will always be looked at in a bad way...all JMO..
Biggest question if this was my child on trial and could get the DP I would be busting down doors and hire 20 PI's to find the real killer if you really believe what Casey has told you..this is your daughters life and you are leaving it up to a lawyer you all have said you did or do not like and you are allowing him to search for the real Nanny..PLEASE come on you all know she did it there is no child murderer out there..
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Excellent post, aproudmom! You've made a lot of good points. George & Cindy have no sense of decency, or anything that resembles shame. They need to be reminded that they never bothered to thank all those individuals who devoted so much time in finding their Granddaughter, Caylee. Isn't it funny how Cindy "claims" to have addresses, and phone numbers for the so called "Nanny", and yet she never bothered to give this information to the Police? I don't know why they even have an Attorney. They just keep running their mouths in public. If they think they are helping Casey, they are sadly mistaken. They complain about all the negative media attention in this case, when in fact, they are the ones who are creating it.
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Originally Posted by Katprint
"Distance makes the heart grow fonder." People like you better when you are not in their face. Your mean and aggressive behavior is hurting your daughter's defense and increasing public hostility against her. Consider a tactical retreat; you can regroup and return later in a kinder, gentler supporting role.
And don't flip the bird anymore while you are in a courtroom. The judge or jury may see you.
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Great post, Katprint! Unfortunately, I don't think George & Cindy are going away anytime soon. After all, are you forgetting how much they love the camera?
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Tell the truth.
Take responsibility for your own actions and accept nothing less from your children.
You are Cassey's example.
Demand justice for Caylee, regardless of who is responsible.
Stand behind your word. It is all you have.
Put God first.
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You don't owe anyone any public explainations.
If you cannot tell the truth, then say "no comment".
You can stand by your daughter, but not as her defender. She does not deserve that.
The world is not out to get Casey. They are simply outraged with her as a liar and you as her supporter, continuing the same outrageous lies. She has to go through the justice system because of Caylee's murder. The media may be a circus, but the judge and the court are not. Her lawyer is not very skilled, but the outcome will be the same, regardless.
The only peace of mind you will find is through the truth. You may not like it, but you cannot be in control of it. It is what it is. You cannot win this struggle, it is going to make you sick if you continue. It may be a defense mechanism for you, but it isn't working and it is making things worse for you. It is making you angry.
Of course, you know Casey better than anyone, and it is hard to hear all the bad things about her. But, you have to sit back and look at this logically. She was once your little girl, but somewhere along the line she did not develop a conscience. She has a chip missing. It happens and it happened to you. There is no protecting her from herself now. There is no protecting Caylee now. Forgive yourself.
Start now doing what is moral and decent and you will have a future.
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You don't owe anyone any public explainations.
If you cannot tell the truth, then say "no comment".
You can stand by your daughter, but not as her defender. She does not deserve that.
The world is not out to get Casey. They are simply outraged with her as a liar and you as her supporter, continuing the same outrageous lies. She has to go through the justice system because of Caylee's murder. The media may be a circus, but the judge and the court are not. Her lawyer is not very skilled, but the outcome will be the same, regardless.
The only peace of mind you will find is through the truth. You may not like it, but you cannot be in control of it. It is what it is. You cannot win this struggle, it is going to make you sick if you continue. It may be a defense mechanism for you, but it isn't working and it is making things worse for you. It is making you angry.
Of course, you know Casey better than anyone, and it is hard to hear all the bad things about her. But, you have to sit back and look at this logically. She was once your little girl, but somewhere along the line she did not develop a conscience. She has a chip missing. It happens and it happened to you. There is no protecting her from herself now. There is no protecting Caylee now. Forgive yourself.
Start now doing what is moral and decent and you will have a future.
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A good explanation, the girl has something missing, call it chip, a brain lobe, she has no conscience.
"moral and decent" sums it up.
I believe they really know "in their hearts" that Casey is responsible. it must be VERY difficult to accept this, and painful. S.
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Originally Posted by Katprint
"Distance makes the heart grow fonder." People like you better when you are not in their face. Your mean and aggressive behavior is hurting your daughter's defense and increasing public hostility against her. Consider a tactical retreat; you can regroup and return later in a kinder, gentler supporting role.
And don't flip the bird anymore while you are in a courtroom. The judge or jury may see you.
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She flipped the bird? How did I miss this? When was this?
Susie 419..... Well said! I just can't add to that.
well I could, but I can't curse sooooooo.
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She flipped the bird? How did I miss this? When was this?
Susie 419..... Well said! I just can't add to that.
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Yes, on May 19, 2009 shortly after Casey's motion to dismiss was denied and ZFG's motion for permission to add a claim for punitive damages was granted, Cindy flips the bird at the media/cameras at about 31:11 as she is leaving the courtroom.
http://www.wftv.com/video/19503363/index.html
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George Anthony and Cindy Anthony (individually):
In the end, all that matters is true happiness.
Tomorrow, and all the tomorrows hereafter, you will be faced with yourself.
That which has already happened is already history. No amount of denial will change it.
On the day you take your last breath, you need to be able to do so with a clear heart and a clear mind. You need to be able to achieve happiness long before that day.
It's time to do a self-assessment. Grieve appropriately, then move away from grief and towards your happiness.
Your happiness, indeed your very existence is only as good as it is honestly lived. To achieve full clarity in life requires real honesty.
Go there.
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05-22-2009, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ksk1
Tell the truth.
Take responsibility for your own actions and accept nothing less from your children.
You are Cassey's example.
Demand justice for Caylee, regardless of who is responsible.
Stand behind your word. It is all you have.
Put God first.
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Great post, ksk1! Unfortunately, I don't think George & Cindy have a word to stand behind. They have a major problem with telling the truth. George & Cindy are every bit as deceitful as their Daughter, Casey.
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05-22-2009, 12:21 AM
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You don't owe anyone any public explainations.
If you cannot tell the truth, then say "no comment".
You can stand by your daughter, but not as her defender. She does not deserve that.
The world is not out to get Casey. They are simply outraged with her as a liar and you as her supporter, continuing the same outrageous lies. She has to go through the justice system because of Caylee's murder. The media may be a circus, but the judge and the court are not. Her lawyer is not very skilled, but the outcome will be the same, regardless.
The only peace of mind you will find is through the truth. You may not like it, but you cannot be in control of it. It is what it is. You cannot win this struggle, it is going to make you sick if you continue. It may be a defense mechanism for you, but it isn't working and it is making things worse for you. It is making you angry.
Of course, you know Casey better than anyone, and it is hard to hear all the bad things about her. But, you have to sit back and look at this logically. She was once your little girl, but somewhere along the line she did not develop a conscience. She has a chip missing. It happens and it happened to you. There is no protecting her from herself now. There is no protecting Caylee now. Forgive yourself.
Start now doing what is moral and decent and you will have a future.
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Excellent post, doradoll! Unfortunately, there are a lot of people like Casey. They are called Sociopaths, and they're dangerous. Not to themselves, but to others. Casey sees everyone as a "target". She had many "targets" or "victims". Sadly, Caylee was the most unfortunate of all her "victims".
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05-22-2009, 01:01 AM
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Yes, on May 19, 2009 shortly after Casey's motion to dismiss was denied and ZFG's motion for permission to add a claim for punitive damages was granted, Cindy flips the bird at the media/cameras at about 31:11 as she is leaving the courtroom.
http://www.wftv.com/video/19503363/index.html
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Hi, Katprint! I watched that video all through until the end. Did they block out the part where Cindy flipped the bird? Wouldn't it be nice if her finger got stuck that way permanently?
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05-22-2009, 02:16 AM
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I watched the video again to make sure it's still there LOL. When Cindy flips the bird she does it really quickly because she knows that what she is doing is wrong and she will get in trouble for it if the judge sees it. It occurs in a split second, at 31:11 exactly. Watch Cindy's left hand (same arm that she just put her purse on) after it drops down to her hip - her hand pops back up to flip a quick bird, then she steps out through the courtroom door.
It looked like this: http://s562.photobucket.com/albums/s...er3webcopy.jpg
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05-22-2009, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kanzz
George Anthony and Cindy Anthony (individually):
In the end, all that matters is true happiness.
Tomorrow, and all the tomorrows hereafter, you will be faced with yourself.
That which has already happened is already history. No amount of denial will change it.
On the day you take your last breath, you need to be able to do so with a clear heart and a clear mind. You need to be able to achieve happiness long before that day.
It's time to do a self-assessment. Grieve appropriately, then move away from grief and towards your happiness.
Your happiness, indeed your very existence is only as good as it is honestly lived. To achieve full clarity in life requires real honesty.
Go there.
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Excellent post, kanzz! If only they would listen.
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05-22-2009, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Katprint
I watched the video again to make sure it's still there LOL. When Cindy flips the bird she does it really quickly because she knows that what she is doing is wrong and she will get in trouble for it if the judge sees it. It occurs in a split second, at 31:11 exactly. Watch Cindy's left hand (same arm that she just put her purse on) after it drops down to her hip - her hand pops back up to flip a quick bird, then she steps out through the courtroom door.
It looked like this: http://s562.photobucket.com/albums/s...er3webcopy.jpg
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Hi, Katprint! Thanks for posting that for us. I have no sympathy for this woman. She caused her own grief. It's no wonder she has a Sociopath for a Daughter.
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