Sunday May 17/09

[ellegna]

Candles for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/...l=eng&gi=cayle



Caylee's Guest Book

http://www.legacy.com/SPTimes/GB/Gue...onId=121581033



Caylee's Law

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/cay...rom%20your%20b

[IM4Truth]

Looks like we both were opening threads at the same time! Mine got locked immediately! Oh well, at least we are here. Do you know how to bring a post over from last night? Do you just copy and paste or is there another way?

[ellegna]

Originally Posted by IM4Truth

Looks like we both were opening threads at the same time! Mine got locked immediately! Oh well, at least we are here. Do you know how to bring a post over from last night? Do you just copy and paste or is there another way?

Good morning IM4Truth

What's that saying about great minds thinking a lot?
Just copy and paste the post here

[IM4Truth]

Originally Posted by ellegna

Good morning IM4Truth

What's that saying about great minds thinking a lot?
Just copy and paste the post here

Great minds that are already awake and thinking maybe! Let me go look for that post I wanted to comment on.

[IM4Truth]

I'm bringing this post over from earlier from:

Oregongal

I think she may have killed Caylee in the early morn hours of the 16th, after she screeched out of the house after the huge fight that caused Cindy trying to choke her on the late afternoon/night of the 15th.
So Caylee would have been in the trunk. She then went back to the house after George went to work on the 16th, moved Caylee to the backyard, thinking she'd bury her there somewhere. Left Caylee in the playhouse, out of sight of the Ant's and then went to be with Tony, rent their movies and have their night of 'love'. Yuck, thinking her daughter lay dead in the backyard of her parents house.
Wasn't it the 17th when she borrowed the shovel? Or maybe the 18th. Either way, she went back to the house, borrowed the shovel thinking she'd bury her, found she could dig far enough down fast enough, returned the shovel and then put Caylee back in the trunk. She had to double bag her cause by this time Caylee was beginning to smell and I'm sure she was covered with flies and all those bugs that come with death. She probably used those pestiside pumps to spray Caylee down just before she bagged her. Put the double bagged Caylee into that laundry hamper because it had handles, put her back in the trunk and then drove around and around, as the cell pings indicate. Being daytime, she couldn't find a place where she wouldn't be seen. After hours of this, it was getting dark she drove back to her 'comfort zone'. A place she'd known from childhood, pulled over onto the shoulder of the road, walked a few feet in and tossed her 'package' into the woods.
Drove off.
I know there may be a few holes in this scenario, but I've also always thought it was simpler than many others have speculated.
And sorry for posting this right before we go to sleep, but this is what I think about how it happened many nights as I pray that the justice for Caylee will come by her mother being put to death for what she did to this baby.
__________________

I totally agree with you on most of this. I'm wondering when the double bagging came in though. I can't help but wonder if Casey first placed Caylee in the laundry bag and left her overnight, possibly in the playhouse or in the sandbox. When she went back to bury her (borrowing neighbors shovel) she found that was going to be too hard and not really sure she had enough time before mom & dad got home. I sort of think she just placed Caylee in the laundry bag at that time in the trunk. Later as fluids started to release is when she put her in the garbage bags. George had said the stain was about the size of a basketball. I would think double bagging plastic bags, maybe not that much fluids would have leaked. I do think Casey drove all around looking for a place to dump her, hence all the pings out by the airport area. I'm just not sure when she turned down Suburban Drive and threw Caylee out. George may not have smelled the odor on the 24th when he retrieved the gas cans. It may not have been permeating outside the car yet. However after sitting in the sun for so long at Amscot is when the odor became so strong. If that is the case, then it is possible that Caylee was in the trunk on the 24th and Casey was got scared that her dad might open the trunk later and that is when she went right down the street and dumped Caylee in the swamp.

[jammies]

Morning, guys and gals.


Anyone else wonder about that flurry of phone calls Casey made? A poster yesterday suggested she was looking for a babysitter which made some sense to me.

Was never convinced the flurry was about the demise of Caylee unless LATER when she did finally get ahold of them she spilled her guts and told them what happened. Then that would mean they knew about her death, buried her in the backyard, later Casey takes body to get back at them, etc. etc.

It doesn't make sense to me that she was calling everyone to report an accident but then immediately went into lying, cover up mode when she couldn't reach them at that moment. If she were calling for that she could have easily driven to Cindy's work, CALLED Cindy's workplace, made a 911 call, etc.

Did that make sense? Difficult to type exactly what I mean. (and it's early)

[jammies]

IM4,

I think OG is right about the 15th being the day she murdered Caylee. GA's story about the 16th is exactly that. A story. Never bought that for a moment.
She was in a rage after the showdown with Mom on the 15th. She took it out on Caylee while in that rage.

[IM4Truth]

Originally Posted by jammies

IM4,

I think OG is right about the 15th being the day she murdered Caylee. GA's story about the 16th is exactly that. A story. Never bought that for a moment.
She was in a rage after the showdown with Mom on the 15th. She took it out on Caylee while in that rage.

Proof that Caylee was in the backyard on the day Casey borrowed the shovel? Casey said the shovel was to remove bamboo shoots so Caylee wouldn't get hurt. Another one of her half truths. Caylee was there on the day the shovel was borrowed, she just wasn't alive.

The mystery remains as to how Casey killed her and we may never know. But I do believe she left that night in a rage and Caylee was probably crying and wanting her grandmother. Casey got so angry, she either choked her, smothered her, whatever, but that is the night or wee hours of the a.m. on the 16th that little Caylee was gone.

[AMS]

Good morning - For those of you who did not see Anakerie's post last night, I have pasted it below. You should read thel ink to see Cindy's response to her. If this response is any indication of how Cindy treated Casey then I believe the defense will use "Cindy - mother from hell" as part of their strategy. They could use her as the reason Casey did not report Caylee was misshing. imo


Anakerie
Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Meridian CA
Posts: 3,527

Hello folks... It's nice to see the board open for business again! I so wanted to pop in here this morning and tell you all that Cindy emailed me about the open letter I posted. I've answered her, but haven't sent her another link yet.. lol... For those who were there to see the open letter, the response is on the same blog... :-)

Hopefully I won't get in trouble for posting a link:
http://anakerie.blogspot.com/


imo

[IM4Truth]

Originally Posted by Dianna

Good morning...
Boy this is sad...
I'm thinking if It were me wanting to hide something that size or weight (not a body) I don't think I would place it in the playhouse. I think I would be really nervous that mom or dad may walk out by the pool at any time of the night or day and walk over that way.
Perhaps she just threw her in her trunk immediately like garbage and went about her business.
If she killed little Caylee on the 15th or 16th, within 24-48 hours that baby would have began to decompose. I don't think the smell would have began for at least 48 hours. It was very hot in Florida and the more she left her in her trunk the worse it got.
This is all so sad.

True, but she may have laid the body down on the ground thinking she was going to dig a grave and found out how hard it was. Those dogs hit on the back yard in a couple of places, near the playhouse, and I believe near the sandbox. She might not have left her overnight. But even George and Cindy admitted to checking under the playhouse after smelling the car!

[IM4Truth]

Cindy's response to Anakerie is Cindy to the T!

[IM4Truth]

Originally Posted by Dianna

{{wow}} IM4Truth...This I didn't know!

Don't ask me for a link! I never keep them! But I think it might have been on Greta when they said they had checked the yard. Someone on the board will know! A lot of people here can give a link in a blink!

[AMS]

Originally Posted by IM4Truth

Don't ask me for a link! I never keep them! But I think it might have been on Greta when they said they had checked the yard. Someone on the board will know! A lot of people here can give a link in a blink!

I can't give a link in a blink but I do remember the A's saying they moved the playhouse to check underneath.

imo

[desmom]

I think you nailed it IM4Truth!

In one of George's video interview with the FBI ( http://cmm.lefora.com/2008/11/23/fbi...anthony/page1/ ), he said he saw clothes in the trunk. Did he see the laundry bag and assume it was full of clothes?

The laundry bag info came out in the Wednesday, 1/21/09 document dump http://www.wftv.com/news/18530178/detail.html. George was reported missing Thursday 1/22/09. I think George read that document dump and realized the laundry bag he saw in Casey's trunk on 6/24 held Caylee's little body.

jmo

[jammies]

Originally Posted by IM4Truth

Proof that Caylee was in the backyard on the day Casey borrowed the shovel? Casey said the shovel was to remove bamboo shoots so Caylee wouldn't get hurt. Another one of her half truths. Caylee was there on the day the shovel was borrowed, she just wasn't alive.

The mystery remains as to how Casey killed her and we may never know. But I do believe she left that night in a rage and Caylee was probably crying and wanting her grandmother. Casey got so angry, she either choked her, smothered her, whatever, but that is the night or wee hours of the a.m. on the 16th that little Caylee was gone.

What if..... she kills her in a rage on the 15th/early 16th (or drugged her to shut her up and she od's) then returns home on the afternoon of 16th, puts the body in the pool to look like accidental drowning, THEN starts making her flurry of phone calls? When she gets no answer, realizes her coverup failed, she comes up with a different plan of action?

[desmom]

Originally Posted by IM4Truth

Don't ask me for a link! I never keep them! But I think it might have been on Greta when they said they had checked the yard. Someone on the board will know! A lot of people here can give a link in a blink!

Page 236 (or penciled #348) http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/...lando-sentinel

Report of July 17, 2008 events by LE:

He (George) told me that he even moved his granddaughter's playhouse and looked underneath it for evidence of foul play. The playhouse is positioned in the back yard on a deck of brick pavers.

[IM4Truth]

Originally Posted by desmom

I think you nailed it IM4Truth!

In one of George's video interview with the FBI ( http://cmm.lefora.com/2008/11/23/fbi...anthony/page1/ ), he said he saw clothes in the trunk. Did he see the laundry bag and assume it was full of clothes?

The laundry bag info came out in the Wednesday, 1/21/09 document dump http://www.wftv.com/news/18530178/detail.html. George was reported missing Thursday 1/22/09. I think George read that document dump and realized the laundry bag he saw in Casey's trunk on 6/24 held Caylee's little body.

jmo

Wow, des! You really follow the timelines. A lot of people think George's attempt was a hoax but I don't. He appears to be a very emotionally weak person and I believe he reached his breaking point. I think he had to get away. He started drinking and started writing down his thoughts, trying to sort things out. He knew he had to distance himself from Cindy and was trying to do that. Unfortunately, he went right back to her. He should have gone to other family, but his parents are probably too frail. He showed a strong side in the beginning when he sneaked down to OCSO for the impromptu interview with Yuri and John Allen admitting that Cindy knew nothing about it. That is when George spoke the truth.

A lot of people are hard on George. However, it appears to me that he held down a respectable job as a detective in a police agency for almost 10 years. Even the sheriff there spoke highly of him. Once he married Cindy and she made him leave the department he was a broken man and his life went downhill from there. We see the truth come out in George when Cindy doesn't have him by the .......... thigh.

[IM4Truth]

Originally Posted by jammies

What if..... she kills her in a rage on the 15th/early 16th (or drugged her to shut her up and she od's) then returns home on the afternoon of 16th, puts the body in the pool to look like accidental drowning, THEN starts making her flurry of phone calls? When she gets no answer, realizes her coverup failed, she comes up with a different plan of action?

That is a theory that many of us have had at times. I wonder if the shorts and t-shirt could be tested for pool chlorine so late in the game?

[jammies]

Originally Posted by Dianna

{{wow}} IM4Truth...This I didn't know!

Yes and that's the "weird" part. What made them think Caylee's body was in their own backyard? You smell decomp, your grand-daughter is gone, you search your backyard for her body? ?????

[IM4Truth]

Originally Posted by desmom

Page 236 (or penciled #348) http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/...lando-sentinel

Report of July 17, 2008 events by LE:

He (George) told me that he even moved his granddaughter's playhouse and looked underneath it for evidence of foul play. The playhouse is positioned in the back yard on a deck of brick pavers.

See! I told ya! Link in a blink! Desmom is awesome! Thank you!

[~jomomma~]

Originally Posted by Dianna

Good morning...
Boy this is sad...
I'm thinking if It were me wanting to hide something that size or weight (not a body) I don't think I would place it in the playhouse. I think I would be really nervous that mom or dad may walk out by the pool at any time of the night or day and walk over that way.
Perhaps she just threw her in her trunk immediately like garbage and went about her business.
If she killed little Caylee on the 15th or 16th, within 24-48 hours that baby would have began to decompose. I don't think the smell would have began for at least 48 hours. It was very hot in Florida and the more she left her in her trunk the worse it got.
This is all so sad.

not to mention their dogs. i would think the first thing G&C would do when they get home is let the dogs outside. the dogs would run straight for where the body would be. heck, even if it's a 'live' person, dogs can tell someone is there. you can't hide from them...LOL

if she left caylee in the back yard, i don't think it was for very long. she would've been gone before G&C came home, imo

[IM4Truth]

Originally Posted by jammies

Yes and that's the "weird" part. What made them think Caylee's body was in their own backyard? You smell decomp, your grand-daughter is gone, you search your backyard for her body? ?????

Answer: because they know their daughter, Casey so well!!!!

[jammies]

Originally Posted by IM4Truth

That is a theory that many of us have had at times. I wonder if the shorts and t-shirt could be tested for pool chlorine so late in the game?

Ok, good. Then I'm not off the wall with this suggestion.

I just don't see her leaving in a rage w/Caylee on the 15th, bringing her back home the 16th for some fun pooltime and she accidently drowns. It's too coincidental with the "big fight" that happened the night before.

[IM4Truth]

Originally Posted by ~jomomma~

not to mention their dogs. i would think the first thing G&C would do when they get home is let the dogs outside. the dogs would run straight for where the body would be. heck, even if it's a 'live' person, dogs can tell someone is there. you can't hide from them...LOL

if she left caylee in the back yard, i don't think it was for very long. she would've been gone before G&C came home, imo

Good thinking! Never thought of that before!

[~jomomma~]

Originally Posted by jammies

Yes and that's the "weird" part. What made them think Caylee's body was in their own backyard? You smell decomp, your grand-daughter is gone, you search your backyard for her body? ?????

the dogs were probly acting strangely would be my guess

[jammies]

Originally Posted by IM4Truth

Answer: because they know their daughter, Casey so well!!!!

Yes, their darling lying, sociopathic, thieving, Mother of the Year daughter. Chip off the old blocks.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by ~jomomma~

the dogs were probly acting strangely would be my guess

Maybe the dogs had been digging back in June but at the time they thought nothing of it?

[OCD4Crime]

Originally Posted by AMS

Good morning - For those of you who did not see Anakerie's post last night, I have pasted it below. You should read thel ink to see Cindy's response to her. If this response is any indication of how Cindy treated Casey then I believe the defense will use "Cindy - mother from hell" as part of their strategy. They could use her as the reason Casey did not report Caylee was misshing. imo


Anakerie
Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Meridian CA
Posts: 3,527

Hello folks... It's nice to see the board open for business again! I so wanted to pop in here this morning and tell you all that Cindy emailed me about the open letter I posted. I've answered her, but haven't sent her another link yet.. lol... For those who were there to see the open letter, the response is on the same blog... :-)

Hopefully I won't get in trouble for posting a link:
http://anakerie.blogspot.com/


imo

I don't post much but Cindy's response makes my blood boil. She truly is evil to the core. jmo

[desmom]

Originally Posted by IM4Truth

Wow, des! You really follow the timelines. A lot of people think George's attempt was a hoax but I don't. He appears to be a very emotionally weak person and I believe he reached his breaking point. I think he had to get away. He started drinking and started writing down his thoughts, trying to sort things out. He knew he had to distance himself from Cindy and was trying to do that. Unfortunately, he went right back to her. He should have gone to other family, but his parents are probably too frail. He showed a strong side in the beginning when he sneaked down to OCSO for the impromptu interview with Yuri and John Allen admitting that Cindy knew nothing about it. That is when George spoke the truth.

A lot of people are hard on George. However, it appears to me that he held down a respectable job as a detective in a police agency for almost 10 years. Even the sheriff there spoke highly of him. Once he married Cindy and she made him leave the department he was a broken man and his life went downhill from there. We see the truth come out in George when Cindy doesn't have him by the .......... thigh.

Actually your post hit the switch on the light bulb and I remembered George saying he saw clothes in the trunk of the car*. While searching for George's statement, I got to thinking what if George saw the laundry bag and assumed it was clothes.

Because there was a matching laundry bag found in the A's garage, I think this was probably something that was part of the norm in the A household. Isn't there washer & dryer in the garage? Cindy may have used laundry bags to transport the clothing to and from the garage. A laundry bag is probably as common in their household as a laundry basket is in mine. When George saw the laundry bag in Casey's trunk, it would be an automatic assumption it was full of clothes.

*I always thought it was odd that someone would put clothes in the trunk of the car with gas cans. All I can say is YUCK!

jmo

[IM4Truth]

Originally Posted by jammies

Ok, good. Then I'm not off the wall with this suggestion.

I just don't see her leaving in a rage w/Caylee on the 15th, bringing her back home the 16th for some fun pooltime and she accidently drowns. It's too coincidental with the "big fight" that happened the night before.

I'd like to know more about the fight that night other than it being about the money and choking Casey. I wonder if Cindy might have told her to get out and never come back, maybe trying to keep Caylee, but Casey grabbed her anyway and ran. If so, then no, Casey wouldn't have come back to stage a pool accident on the 16th. However, she could have said she came back to get her things and Caylee got out but then who put the ladder up? Dizzy, I'm so dizzy, my head is spinning, like a whirlpool........

[IM4Truth]

Originally Posted by OCD4Crime

I don't post much but Cindy's response makes my blood boil. She truly is evil to the core. jmo

You obviously have a good perspective on Cindy, so post some more!

[IM4Truth]

Originally Posted by desmom

Actually your post hit the switch on the light bulb and I remembered George saying he saw clothes in the trunk of the car*. While searching for George's statement, I got to thinking what if George saw the laundry bag and assumed it was clothes.

Because there was a matching laundry bag found in the A's garage, I think this was probably something that was part of the norm in the A household. Isn't there washer & dryer in the garage? Cindy may have used laundry bags to transport the clothing to and from the garage. A laundry bag is probably as common in their household as a laundry basket is in mine. When George saw the laundry bag in Casey's trunk, it would be an automatic assumption it was full of clothes.

*I always thought it was odd that someone would put clothes in the trunk of the car with gas cans. All I can say is YUCK!

jmo

I use the laundry baskets too but I saw a photo of the one (or one like it) from Caylee's room. It is a fabric bag that hangs on a a frame, just pick it up when full and take it out to washer. If George saw the bag in the car, he probably thought nothing of it at first since Casey was supposed to have been on vacation at that time. But when the disovery photos came out, it hit him in the face.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by IM4Truth

I'd like to know more about the fight that night other than it being about the money and choking Casey. I wonder if Cindy might have told her to get out and never come back, maybe trying to keep Caylee, but Casey grabbed her anyway and ran. If so, then no, Casey wouldn't have come back to stage a pool accident on the 16th. However, she could have said she came back to get her things and Caylee got out but then who put the ladder up? Dizzy, I'm so dizzy, my head is spinning, like a whirlpool........

I hear ya on dizzy. Trying to think like the A's is making my brain mushy.
I always figured Cindy kicked her butt out and that is why she feels GUILTY. Cindy knew she couldn't stop Casey from taking Caylee. Casey only took Caylee to get back at her mom...not because she wanted her.
I picture, like everyone else here, Casey driving like a speed demon outta there, Caylee screaming/crying............

[~jomomma~]

Originally Posted by desmom

I think you nailed it IM4Truth!

In one of George's video interview with the FBI ( http://cmm.lefora.com/2008/11/23/fbi...anthony/page1/ ), he said he saw clothes in the trunk. Did he see the laundry bag and assume it was full of clothes?

The laundry bag info came out in the Wednesday, 1/21/09 document dump http://www.wftv.com/news/18530178/detail.html. George was reported missing Thursday 1/22/09. I think George read that document dump and realized the laundry bag he saw in Casey's trunk on 6/24 held Caylee's little body.

jmo

desmom, i don't have anything in this case organized and only a few things saved. i thought in one of his interviews he said he saw (i thought) it was something blue....did he say a laundry bag? what was it he said he saw in the trunk?

it really bugs me when i can only remember so much.

[desmom]

Originally Posted by ~jomomma~

the dogs were probly acting strangely would be my guess

I agree. When I was an EMT, we responded to an assist LE check on the welfare call. The neighbors were concerned because their neighbor's dog was howling and had been for several hours. It was an eerie sound from outside the house. The dog was mourning the death of his owner.

I think the A's dogs may have responded in a similar way. Maybe whining and whimpering at the playhouse because they smelled the death of a loved one. Cindy may have waved it off with thinking the dogs missed Caylee not being home.

jmo

[~jomomma~]

Originally Posted by jammies

I hear ya on dizzy. Trying to think like the A's is making my brain mushy.
I always figured Cindy kicked her butt out and that is why she feels GUILTY. Cindy knew she couldn't stop Casey from taking Caylee. Casey only took Caylee to get back at her mom...not because she wanted her.
I picture, like everyone else here, Casey driving like a speed demon outta there, Caylee screaming/crying............

me too
that's what i've always pictured and poor caylee just wanted to go home. she might've even been sleeping when casey grabbed her and left. that poor baby.

[desmom]

Originally Posted by ~jomomma~

desmom, i don't have anything in this case organized and only a few things saved. i thought in one of his interviews he said he saw (i thought) it was something blue....did he say a laundry bag? what was it he said he saw in the trunk?

it really bugs me when i can only remember so much.

I do not think there are transcripts of the FBI interview. http://cmm.lefora.com/2008/11/23/fbi...anthony/page1/ does include a summary of the interview. The very last entry, 3rd paragraph says George said he saw some clothes and a collapsible blue bin with the gas cans in it in the trunk when Casey was getting the gas cans out of the trunk.

jmo

[~jomomma~]

Originally Posted by desmom

I do not think there are transcripts of the FBI interview. http://cmm.lefora.com/2008/11/23/fbi...anthony/page1/ does include a summary of the interview. The very last entry, 3rd paragraph says George said he saw some clothes and a collapsible blue bin with the gas cans in it in the trunk when Casey was getting the gas cans out of the trunk.

jmo

ok, thank you!!!

[trich]

Oregongal

I think she may have killed Caylee in the early morn hours of the 16th, after she screeched out of the house after the huge fight that caused Cindy trying to choke her on the late afternoon/night of the 15th.
So Caylee would have been in the trunk. She then went back to the house after George went to work on the 16th, moved Caylee to the backyard, thinking she'd bury her there somewhere. Left Caylee in the playhouse, out of sight of the Ant's and then went to be with Tony, rent their movies and have their night of 'love'. Yuck, thinking her daughter lay dead in the backyard of her parents house.
Wasn't it the 17th when she borrowed the shovel? Or maybe the 18th. Either way, she went back to the house, borrowed the shovel thinking she'd bury her, found she could dig far enough down fast enough, returned the shovel and then put Caylee back in the trunk. She had to double bag her cause by this time Caylee was beginning to smell and I'm sure she was covered with flies and all those bugs that come with death. She probably used those pestiside pumps to spray Caylee down just before she bagged her. Put the double bagged Caylee into that laundry hamper because it had handles, put her back in the trunk and then drove around and around, as the cell pings indicate. Being daytime, she couldn't find a place where she wouldn't be seen. After hours of this, it was getting dark she drove back to her 'comfort zone'. A place she'd known from childhood, pulled over onto the shoulder of the road, walked a few feet in and tossed her 'package' into the woods.
Drove off.
I know there may be a few holes in this scenario, but I've also always thought it was simpler than many others have speculated.
And sorry for posting this right before we go to sleep, but this is what I think about how it happened many nights as I pray that the justice for Caylee will come by her mother being put to death for what she did to this baby.


I pretty much think the same thing.
Also didn't George and Cindy after bringing the car( with decomposing smell ) home look in the playhouse and the rest of the yard?
At that point they knew someone was dead and had been in the trunk but why did they look under things in the backyard?
What pocessed them to do that.
Anyhow IMO they knew then that Caylee was dead and from there on they have been covering for Casey....I don't think they are even in denial ...I think in a sense they believe they are responsible for Casey's behavior but at same time refusing to believe it,( like if only we had done this or that) and are trying to present themselves as believing she is innocent.
so much so that they have lied, and accused others of being to blame.
IMO Casey is the only one to blame for killing Caylee....
Her family has always excused her behavior... but at some time in life you have to put on your "Big Girl Panties" .

[Patty437]

Originally Posted by jammies

IM4,

I think OG is right about the 15th being the day she murdered Caylee. GA's story about the 16th is exactly that. A story. Never bought that for a moment.
She was in a rage after the showdown with Mom on the 15th. She took it out on Caylee while in that rage.

yeah......i always thought his story was BS......he said casey and caylee left at about 12:50PM or so? what the heck were they doing the entire morning before that? I've never heard any description about that.