Republicans Declare 2010 as Year of the Bible

snookums1 · #1 05-10-2009, 10:13 PM

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...r-of-the-Bible Hmmm. Does this mean they are going to start following the message given in it?

31"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.' - Matthew 25

How good it would be if they started caring for the least amongst us instead of being as the Publicans and shouting their religion from the streets to get pats on the back.

20 Mule Team · #2 05-10-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by snookums1

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...r-of-the-Bible Hmmm. Does this mean they are going to start following the message given in it?

31"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.' - Matthew 25

How good it would be if they started caring for the least amongst us instead of being as the Publicans and shouting their religion from the streets to get pats on the back.

Bolding mine on the above, and in answer......Nope....Nada....Doubt it very much.

snookums1 · #3 05-10-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by legal_eagle

Something else to consider...

"Thall shall not judge lest ye be judged."

So remember, how you judge others, God will judge you the same.

That includes homosexuals, Muslims, Mexicans, blacks, etc. None of them should be judged or treated as less worthy.

MiamiNice1 · #4 05-10-2009, 10:22 PM

This thread is nothing more than a nasty slam against Republicans. When are you guys going to knock this nonsense off?

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http://philanthropy.com/live/2006/11/brooks/

In his new book, Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism, Arthur C. Brooks presents research showing that religious conservatives are more charitable than secular liberals. He says people who support the idea that government should redistribute income are among the least likely to dig into their own wallets to help others. Included in his book is an analysis of 15 sets of data that he says all came to the same conclusion.

imo

MiamiNice1 · #5 05-10-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by legal_eagle

Something else to consider...

"Thall shall not judge lest ye be judged."

So remember, how you judge others, God will judge you the same.

It is mind boggling how those living in glass houses keep throwing those stones!

imo

baltoman99 · #6 05-11-2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by legal_eagle

It's mind boggling how some people try to judge others they don't know. I judge no one for fear of God's wrath. Does anyone else here do the same?(a question not an accusation) Have you read the posts aimed at anyone who doesn't support Obama?

Tell me, why is it you pick and choose which side to lay this on?

All I see is you speaking out against anyone who supports Obama yet nothing of those who spout lies about him and his supporters?

It's quite telling to me.

Why don't you start your holier than thou garbage on posts calling Obama a Muslim, a terrorist suppoter, anti-American.........or doesn't that fit into your criteria of "judging" someone.

snookums1 · #7 05-11-2009, 01:35 AM

I have to wonder what all the other religions in this country think about the Republicans honoring the Bible in this way? If you put them all together, they are probably even with Christians. Are they now considered less American because their religion does not include reading the Bible?

theal3 · #8 05-11-2009, 01:39 AM

I hope the GOPers in these regionalist districts or rural states keep on doing what they are doing, and it gets reported how entrenched they are with moral and religious issues and trying to introduce them in Congress, lord knows they aren't satisfied with doing it at the state level. So much for separation of church and state. It show more and more people with all the ways to get info these days, just how they waste taxpayers time with issues like these in the halls of Congress IMHO.

More and more people, even of faith, or other faiths who don't wear it on their sleeves are turning away from the GOP. They are like "extemeists" Christians, just like there is extremist muslims. It's the America version of them trying to control other people lives, and discrimminating against those not like them, as if they are the chosen ones.

They just don't know when to quit. IMHO

snookums1 · #9 05-11-2009, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by theal3

I hope the GOPers in these regionalist districts or rural states keep on doing what they are doing, and it gets reported how entrenched they are with moral and religious issues and trying to introduce them in Congress, lord knows they aren't satisfied with doing it at the state level. So much for separation of church and state. It show more and more people with all the ways to get info these days, just how they waste taxpayers time with issues like these in the halls of Congress IMHO.

More and more people, even of faith, or other faiths who don't wear it on their sleeves are turning away from the GOP. They are like "extemeists" Christians, just like there is extremist muslims. It's the America version of them trying to control other people lives, and discrimminating against those not like them, as if they are the chosen ones.

They just don't know when to quit. IMHO

Actually they remind me of a Christian version of the Taliban. They want to take over this whole country and everything it has ever stood for. And what they preach is anything but Christian, in the pure form. Christian is all about love for your fellow man, sharing, helping those in need, doing unto others as you would want others to do unto you, giving, etc. etc.

Brentwood · #10 05-11-2009, 01:55 AM

IMO, the 14 holier than thou religious right congress critters co/sponsoring this are huge hypocrites. They exclude all other religions.

Would Jesus vote like they do…

They vote for the rich at the expense of the poor
They vote against women and children
They vote against equality for all
They couldn’t care less about the killing in Iraq
on and on and on...

theal3 · #11 05-11-2009, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by snookums1

Actually they remind me of a Christian version of the Taliban. They want to take over this whole country and everything it has ever stood for. And what they preach is anything but Christian, in the pure form. Christian is all about love for your fellow man, sharing, helping those in need, doing unto others as you would want others to do unto you, giving, etc. etc.

Exactly. I have and have had friends in business and politics and neighbors and in community organization or in the workplace of many faiths, sexual orientation, and culture/color. And religion was a private thing, no more than knowing or saying "going to church." No one tried to recruit/covert people; decisions were made with no mention of church or faith. In fact it turned people off, when a "few" leaned that way. That's the way it should be. We are so lucky in the country to allow religious freedom and many, many religions, and branches of them.

And kudos to Brentwood: ITA.

snookums1 · #12 05-11-2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Brentwood

IMO, the 14 holier than thou religious right congress critters co/sponsoring this are huge hypocrites. They exclude all other religions.

Would Jesus vote like they do…

They vote for the rich at the expense of the poor
They vote against women and children
They vote against equality for all
They couldn’t care less about the killing in Iraq
on and on and on...

I can answer that. NO. But then He said that the day would come when people in power, using the Word of God would do the works of Satan and many would be fooled. Is what is going on now what He was talking about? He was all about love, forgiveness, helping those with less, sharing, caring for your fellow man no matter what their circumstance etc. etc. etc. And our country was founded on the belief that all are equal and all religions should be deemed the same way. No religion should have sway in our government or have any part of the government's decision making. Religion should be kept totally separate.

Brentwood · #13 05-11-2009, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by snookums1

I can answer that. NO. But then He said that the day would come when people in power, using the Word of God would do the works of Satan and many would be fooled. Is what is going on now what He was talking about? He was all about love, forgiveness, helping those with less, sharing, caring for your fellow man no matter what their circumstance etc. etc. etc. And our country was founded on the belief that all are equal and all religions should be deemed the same way. No religion should have sway in our government or have any part of the government's decision making. Religion should be kept totally separate.

Excellent post Snook. As you said, He was all about love and forgiveness. There are many false profits and you can tell who is who because "you know them by their works." Many will be fooled. I couldn't agree with you more regarding the need for separation between church and state.

snookums1 · #14 05-11-2009, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by legal_eagle

Why is it you people keep accusing me of talking against Obama supporters. I have said it before and I say it again...I VOTED FOR HIM! But when I am treated like a leper for saying even the least negative thing about dems or Obama, I tend to start regretting my vote. Do you intend to attack any one who voted for him who dares question something he is doing? You will turn a lot of people against him if you continue to do that. I am on the fence but you are beginning to push me over the other side by your constant accusations and hate.

I simply made a statement about not judging people and was criticized for it. That was the reason for bringing up posts of Obama supporters. I have seen more attacks than normal comments and must wonder why that is.

So I will try again and ask this....does anyone who considers themselves a Christian wonder why Obama has yet to find a church after 6 months since the election? I only question it because the man has been to exactly one church service since leaving United Trinity and that worries me, especially when he didn't even attend church on National Prayer Day. I think it should concern everyone who follows the Bible and stands up for Christianity.

I am not condemning or attacking him or anyone here. I am asking a question and the tone of responses will be very telling.

My opinion.

You do not have to attend a church to believe. Nor do you have to attend a church (founded by man) to be a Christian. Our religions are a private thing, between us and God. And we were told that when we pray to do so in private and God will hear in private.

Brentwood · #15 05-11-2009, 03:05 AM

The church is within the person, not a building or establishment they go to, IMO.

snookums1 · #16 05-11-2009, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Brentwood

The church is within the person, not a building or establishment they go to, IMO.

Exactly. That is what I meant when I said churches were founded by men and not God.

theal3 · #17 05-11-2009, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by snookums1

You do not have to attend a church to believe. Nor do you have to attend a church (founded by man) to be a Christian. Our religions are a private thing, between us and God. And we were told that when we pray to do so in private and God will hear in private.

Exactly. It's confusing to children. They ask: if there is only one god, why are there so many religions? Why do religions fight against other religions, or say there's is better than the others. IMHO.

snookums1 · #18 05-11-2009, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by theal3

Exactly. It's confusing to children. They ask: if there is only one god, why are there so many religions? Why do religions fight against other religions, or say there's is better than the others. IMHO.

I am protestant and married a Catholic with custody of 3 children. You are so right, it is very confusing for children.

LisaM22 · #19 05-11-2009, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MiamiNice1

This thread is nothing more than a nasty slam against Republicans. When are you guys going to knock this nonsense off?<snip>
imo

is it true, are republicans really trying to push something silly like this?

LisaM22 · #20 05-11-2009, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by legal_eagle

Considering that contrary to some beliefs, even Obama has to answer to a higher authority and if he does not worship God for all to see, then God may not be too happy with him and that could spell real problems for us. Whether you know it or not, even presidents cannot succeed without God's help.

My opinion.

no wonder your not a democrat, that sounds like a far right belief to me - separation of church and state

thought the bible said something like - if you pray in public you have already got your reward as you were doing it for yourself and not for a god

LisaM22 · #21 05-11-2009, 05:15 AM

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...46;&version=9;

"ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. "

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...24;&version=9;

"Matthew 19:24 (King James Version)

And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

maybe both of these of these are messages the religious right should be looking at more closely

LisaM22 · #22 05-11-2009, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by legal_eagle

Once again for those who can't seem to read, I am not a RW and not a republican. Until recently I was a democrat but am now independent. Please read posts completely if you can read. And since your last sentence makes no sense whatsoever I am assuming you cannot understand Bible passages like the ones I posted.

You are attempting to judge my faith and you don't even know me. Show me in the Bible where it says you should or can do that. You claim that by praying in public it is a selfish act and not for God. That goes against almost ever passage I quoted from the Bible. I am not ashamed of my belief even if you are. I have no problem telling people that I believe even if you do. I stand up, even in public, for my faith even if you won't.

I believe in God even if you don't.

swear to god? you wouldn't lie to us know would ya? not in your gods name anyways woudl ya? what were ya in 2000 and 2004?

LisaM22 · #23 05-11-2009, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by legal_eagle

You just proved my point. Thank you. I will pray for your soul.

as you just proved mine, I knew ya couldn't do it - lol

LisaM22 · #24 05-11-2009, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by legal_eagle

So He is MY God huh? Not yours....hmmmm. And you claim the current democratic party are Christians? I have met so many with the same lack of belief as you. That isn't saying much for that party.

when have I ever claimed that, this is America, land of MANY religions, Obama is a Christian, not all democrats are Christians - if you had really been a democrat I would think you would already know that - and you call us "that party", you mean like "That one"....lol

LisaM22 · #25 05-11-2009, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by legal_eagle

Well I do know that Christians do not bow before Muslim kings. And I could care less if you believe I was a democrat or not. I don't believe you are really an American so that makes us even. What country do you live in?

My opinion.

Muslims and Christians believe in the same god, they are an extension of the same religion

if you believe in a god, you believe he knows if your lying or not in his name ... doesn't mater to me

I live in the land of the free... America... I do not live in a theocracy nor do I want to, how about you?

Amy Thist · #26 05-11-2009, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MiamiNice1

It is mind boggling how those living in glass houses keep throwing those stones!

imo

I think that the democratic platform is way more socially conscious which is what is being said in the opening thread. How often are we called bleeding hearts because we care? It is not a slam if it's the truth that his the way I see things. Maybe there are individual republicans who care but it doesn't seem like the party people do. Listn to Mr. Limbaugh for e.g. whatsocial programs does the right think are necessary? or unnnecessary. Health care? programs for mothers and children, the elderly? education? the environment?

Amy Thist · #27 05-11-2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ohioguy44138

Oh really? Then why isn't praying, belief, faith, attending church every week, being christian, being religious, or even being spiritual a requirement to be president?

How do you explain that at least 16 US Presidents were believed to either be Diest, or having no religious affiliations, including several of our founding fathers and Abraham Lincoln?

Please explain how exactly, "God not being too happy with Obama, could mean real problems for the United States"..??? Are you saying if Obama doesn't attend church every week, God is going to punish the entire country?

I think this is yet anotehr misstep for rthe republicans. No one liks relgion being crammed down their throats. how about year of the wiccan? year of the agnostic? year of the Hindu. Another way to drive people away from their party.

Lynden1000 · #28 05-11-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bowtize

Why is is so wrong to proclaim the "Year of the Bible", but it's perfectly okay to proclaim "Islam Day" in Hawaii?

Some of us think both are entirely inappropriate. It's not the government's business to be promoting religion.

Banditta · #29 05-11-2009, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynden1000

Some of us think both are entirely inappropriate. It's not the government's business to be promoting religion.

I agree with you about the government's role. If it's the republican party will they set up a special fund? What about those republicans who want to contribute to the party but don't want their money to go towards evangelizing? They are creating their own problems, the party I mean. I wonder if more republicans abandon the party because of it's extreme rightwing religious agenda, more and more theocratic.

Banditta · #30 05-11-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bowtize

Well that's good to hear, since I didn't notice any of the same posters say anything against Islam Day on that thread.

There is a difference, imo. One day set aside versus and entire political party basically engaging in prostelitizing a religion. But Ithink they ought to go ahead with it.

It also is aboutg promoting one religion over any other, when you refer to the Bible, being the book for only certain believers. Theocracy.

joolz · #31 05-11-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bowtize

Why is is so wrong to proclaim the "Year of the Bible", but it's perfectly okay to proclaim "Islam Day" in Hawaii?

Neither one is "okay." Religion and politics should not mix.

Carol25 · #32 05-11-2009, 11:56 AM

Just glancing through this thread, I thought I was in the religion board.

Tracian · #33 05-11-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by legal_eagle

Considering that contrary to some beliefs, even Obama has to answer to a higher authority and if he does not worship God for all to see, then God may not be too happy with him and that could spell real problems for us. Whether you know it or not, even presidents cannot succeed without God's help.

My opinion.

Why would a benevolent God punish an entire country for the actions of one man?

Tracian · #34 05-11-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by joolz

Neither one is "okay." Religion and politics should not mix.

I agree, the last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

Tracian · #35 05-11-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by legal_eagle

Did HE not punish all of humanity for the act of one man and one woman? (Adam and Eve)

At the time, should the Bible be correct, Adam and Eve were humanity, they were here all by themselves.

Tracian · #36 05-11-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by legal_eagle

But His punishment was aimed at all their children and their childrens children and so on.

And the people who turned against and betrayed God while Moses was receiving God's law. Even those who did not follow the betrayers were punished for the acts of the others. All were made to wander in the wilderness for 40 years.

And this is a benevolent God that some choose to worship? Punishing children for the sins of the parents?

lunchlady · #37 05-11-2009, 02:38 PM

This reeks of yet another attempt by the GOP to claim the Bible for themselves. What a crock.
Who exactly are the religious paragons in the GOP? Why might they be better Christians than their Democrat equivalents? What plans does the GOP have to discredit Democrats? Are they revamping the Family Values BS? The Moral Majority BS?
I know the Religious Right is working hard to improve their public image; they don't even want to be called the Religious Right anymore but it seems to be a pretty straightforward name to me.

And what are they expecting in 2010? I predict that the GOP is going to go on an all-out anti-choice rampage, since they've used this as a wedge issue and litmus test for decades now. They don't seem to be noticing that this has overall been less effective for them lately although they've had some success in places like North Dakota.
So brace yourself y'all. I predict that the GOP is preparing for the 2010 elections by getting out those dead baby photos. And maybe they'll somehow tie that in with the "Socialized Medicine is a Communist Plot!" theme.

lunchlady · #38 05-11-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by legal_eagle

I have noticed that it is those with liberal beliefs and views that argue against religion incessantly. Yet 70% if Americans are Christian?

My opinion.

I am more and more liberal as I age, despite my highly conservative roots. I am very pro-Bible and pro-Christian and I am not anti-religion. I'm also not unusual.
I think the erosion of and changes in American Christianity are generally unfortunate. I am disturbed by the decrease in church attendance and membership especially among young people and think that that trend should be reversed if possible. The lack of religious leadership and education in their developing lives is a great loss for them and society.
I am also disturbed by the character of many of the emerging brands of Christianity and feel they are contributing to these and other trends I don't like.

LisaM22 · #39 05-11-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bowtize

Why is is so wrong to proclaim the "Year of the Bible", but it's perfectly okay to proclaim "Islam Day" in Hawaii?

your asking for a federal holiday for an entire year to be for one religion - lol, I have no clue what "Islam Day" is, is it a federal holiday?

LisaM22 · #40 05-11-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by legal_eagle

I have noticed that it is those with liberal beliefs and views that argue against religion incessantly. Yet 70% if Americans are Christian?

My opinion.

maybe because the right doesn't value religious freedom and separation of church and state or any other religion other then their own... just maybe - this is America, land of the free, equal rights for all