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04-23-2009, 12:50 AM
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04-23-2009, 03:02 AM
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Wonder where the father is? Maybe the children should be with him if she can't handle being a mom.
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He probably left cause he couldn't cope with being a Dad - who knows - I can understand her doing it - and understand the remorse. And if the kids had to spend some time away from their Mom, maybe they learnt about the stress they put her under.
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04-23-2009, 04:55 AM
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This woman is an attorney and should know better. I'm sure we've all threatened our kids with the self same thing but, for goodness sake, with all the sex offenders and criminals roaming the streets, why would an intelligent person do something that could potentially be so damn dangerous. Makes me wonder about her parenting skills in general.
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04-23-2009, 07:26 AM
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This woman is an attorney and should know better. I'm sure we've all threatened our kids with the self same thing but, for goodness sake, with all the sex offenders and criminals roaming the streets, why would an intelligent person do something that could potentially be so damn dangerous. Makes me wonder about her parenting skills in general.
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I understand just too well how children can cause an intelligent, usually wonderful Mother to do things very out of character. One thinks about the potential danger after the event, not at the time.
We are sometimes too quick to condemn and making this a criminal charge, is a true waste of everyone's time. When I was 10 years old - if I had been dropped 3 miles from my home - I would have known how to get there. Perhaps we need to look at teaching our children life skills and not trying so hard to protect them from the world.
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04-23-2009, 07:53 AM
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Partner in Manhattan law firm reportedly upset by kids' bickering
My mom always keep a roll of tape and a switch in her car and I don't blame her me and my sister used to fight all the time we sure shut our traps when she told us to...but that was 30yrs ago..I know it sad she did this and she should have NEVER left them but kids have got to be brought up to know it is dangerous to be driving and trying to get your kids to stop fighting or screaming..she was wrong not taking up for her in anyway...she went about this in the wrong way she should have pulled over calmed down and let them know it is not safe for any of them driving in a car acting up...don't leave your kids on the side of the road,..fgs..teach them from early on..
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30344675/
A judge on Wednesday modified a temporary order of protection against 45-year-old Madlyn Primoff and her two daughters. Her lawyer, Vincent Briccetti, said Primoff is no longer barred from living or talking with her children
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04-23-2009, 08:06 AM
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Ear plugs work. They are cheap. Let them fight and stay out of it unless you see blood.
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04-23-2009, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dref99
He probably left cause he couldn't cope with being a Dad - who knows - I can understand her doing it - and understand the remorse. And if the kids had to spend some time away from their Mom, maybe they learnt about the stress they put her under.
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I didn't see anything in the article about her being a single parent, only that it was her and the kids in the car.
As for the kids being lost, maybe it was an unfamiliar area of town and they didn't know how to get home?
My dad had to do this with my brother when he was about 15. I won't go into details, but I'm really surprised to this day that he didn't run him over too - he was that angry - and he could always discipline us without yelling or hitting us. At the time, my brother had some issues which I now believe was untreated major depression, and thought of this when I saw that thread in "Open Forum" about the bride who's suing her husband's boss for ruining her wedding. Had I gotten married during this time, my brother would not have been allowed at any of the festivities for this exact reason.
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04-23-2009, 12:20 PM
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I am also a mother of two(daughters). I can surely sympathize with this mom although I wouldn't put them out of the car because I am afraid of who would pick them up...BUT...I don't agree with her being arrested.
Maybe the KIDS learned a lesson; they obviously needed to. Arrest REAL criminals, please. (I am also from a police family-the cop was wrong IMO)
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04-23-2009, 12:26 PM
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Arrest was overkill
Sounds like the whole family needs some help. Mom could use parenting classes. The kids clearly need to look at their behavior; especially the 12 yr old who apparently abandoned the 10 yr old instead of sticking with her and taking care of her.
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04-23-2009, 07:45 PM
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I'm just SO extremely glad my kids are now in their 50's. I would NEVER make it as a parent today!!
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04-23-2009, 08:07 PM
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This isn't going to be a popular opinion, but here goes.......
The school department in this area has determined that children living 2 miles or less from school are perfectly capable of walking the distance, therefore if their parents want them to ride the school bus they have to pay a huge fee, several hundred dollars a year per child for them to ride.
The city requires students to travel by mass transit to go to their assigned schools, not in their neighborhoods but where their assigned to keep the schools properly integrated, usually requiring more than one transfer from one line to another from 4th grade onward.
This mom dropped off two perfectly healthy children who were behaving badly in a perfectly safe neighborhood and told them to walk home. FGS, she lives in the $2 million dollar home three miles from the spot she dropped them off. I'm thinking they don't put $2 million dollar homes on the boarder of the high crime areas of town. They were together and should have stayed that way, but obviously they continued to argue with each other.
Parents must be allowed to parent their children. This woman didn't hit them, she didn't harm them in any way, and she obviously came back for them which is how the older child "caught up to her" unless that's a child capable of braking all track records given she can outrun a car.
The cop was out of line, that's all there is to it. One thing is for certain, even as it turned out, those kids won't act up in the car again. It's time for parents to grow a backbone and start disciplining their children.
It's this kind of stupidity that resulted in parents racing off to Nebraska to abandon their teens under the safe haven law, because they're out of control yet the parents hands are tied by a society that turns a blind eye to children beaten daily until they turn up dead, but think a kid taking a 3 mile hike is "cruel".
FGS they probably needed the exercise given most kids spend all of their time in front of a computer, being driven from one place to another, on a cell phone, hanging at a shopping mall or playing video games rather than getting a bit of fresh air these days.
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04-23-2009, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dref99
I understand just too well how children can cause an intelligent, usually wonderful Mother to do things very out of character. One thinks about the potential danger after the event, not at the time.
We are sometimes too quick to condemn and making this a criminal charge, is a true waste of everyone's time. When I was 10 years old - if I had been dropped 3 miles from my home - I would have known how to get there. Perhaps we need to look at teaching our children life skills and not trying so hard to protect them from the world.
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Believe you me, I too understand just how mad kids can make you. Been there, done that. Maybe 25 years ago when my kids were young enough for me to have done something like this mother did, I'd have thought of possible repercussions after the fact. However, in this day and age and with 25 years of working as a para legal where you are in contact with the dregs of society (even those who live in $2 000 000 homes) I would not do it. I agree that she should not have been arrested and, if she's unable to control her kids, maybe they all need some kind of counselling.
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04-23-2009, 09:30 PM
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This isn't going to be a popular opinion, but here goes.......
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I would think the opposite - it is sure my opinion and many folks agree with you.
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04-23-2009, 09:45 PM
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About the house being in a nice area and so what if the kids had to walk 2 miles through a safe area to get home....well, when I was a child growing up in a well-to-do area of Corona Del Mar, CA, a 12-year girl (one grade higher than I was at the time) missed the school bus and her mother refused to come pick her up and told her to walk home.
She lived about two miles from the school. She never made it home. Somewhere along the way in this nice neighborhood, some one picked her up, raped her and murdered her. Police thought perhaps she got tired of walking and tried to thumb a ride home. I don't think her killer was ever caught. Her murder left a big impression on me. My mother refused to let me walk home after that.
Just saying that horrible things can happen even in nice neighborhoods, and sometimes you have no idea what a tween will do when on his or her own.
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04-25-2009, 04:32 PM
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Shows you how society has de-sensitized me
Well, of course it's not good what this woman did, but honestly it's good to see an article where the mom didn't kill the kids this time. Isn't that horrible? I wake up every day scouring the news with my heart in my throat waiting to hear news about Caylee and Sandra and Hayleigh. It just sickens me.
I always say to my husband that if mothers really did just drop the kids off somewhere instead of killing them it would be great. How many of you would have loved to adopt a child like Caylee!!! I know I would.
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04-29-2009, 01:47 AM
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In our school district, kids accumulate miles they run for a RunTex marathon. It isn't at all unusual for a 10 year old to run 3 miles in one afternoon.
It's like we've all lost our minds. Making a 10 year old and a 12 year old who won't stop squabbling walk 3 miles doesn't seem to be an issue to me - but how weird that they didn't stick together. I would look a little more closely at the 12 year old, and the sibling relationship in general because they CAN'T stop squabbling, more than I'd look at the mother.
Felony? I don't think so.
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what are they charging on..
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04-29-2009, 02:47 AM
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I'm confused about what the issue is here. Are they upset about the distance? That mom dropped them off somewhere? When I was in JH and HS, kids walked farther than that to get to their friend's house or walk to wherever, including school. If these two just decided to go for a 3 mile walk one day this wouldn't be news. I don't understand why mom is in trouble.
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04-29-2009, 10:45 AM
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I'm confused about what the issue is here. Are they upset about the distance? That mom dropped them off somewhere? When I was in JH and HS, kids walked farther than that to get to their friend's house or walk to wherever, including school. If these two just decided to go for a 3 mile walk one day this wouldn't be news. I don't understand why mom is in trouble.
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And the 12 yr old left the 10 yr old and "caught up with the mom". So I guess the problem was that they were still fighting so the 10 yr old was upset and convinced the cop there was a problem.
I walked a little over 2 mi to school in Toronto from Elementary school on. No big deal. LE needs to drop these charges, but I bet that mom could use some help - family counselling for all of them IMO. Mostly this is very embarrassing for her....and nearly everyone will feel quite free to tell her what they think. She won't be able to buy groceries without being accosted I'll bet.
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04-29-2009, 02:40 PM
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what are they charging on..
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Primoff, a partner in a Manhattan law firm, pleaded not guilty to a charge of endangering a child on Monday.
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Initially they had a RO keeping Mom from having any contact or living with the children. The judge has amended that, but to what degree it didn't say.
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04-30-2009, 01:42 AM
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On another board
there was a 7 page discussion/debate about this article and the article said that the 10 year old was taken to get ice cream by a sympathitic stranger then taken to the police station. I assumed that was the case and why there was so much outrage.
I would not have let the 12 year back in the car without her sister.
I was a single parent for 15 years and my kids made me crazy but i would not have done this and yes, I walked several miles back and forth to school in the 7th and 8th grades in a very isolated, rural area that was peopled with transient agriculture workers. Now, I would not allow my children to do that. times have changed.
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