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Old 04-22-2009, 11:23 AM
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:38 PM
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Jerry50 brought up a good point on the last thread. If Jason had an airtight alibi, he wouldnt be the focus of the investigation now would he? Although I suspect if he actually had that airtight alibi, he would be willing to speak to police to help clear him and help the investigation. JMO.
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:55 PM
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Jerry50 brought up a good point on the last thread. If Jason had an airtight alibi, he wouldnt be the focus of the investigation now would he? Although I suspect if he actually had that airtight alibi, he would be willing to speak to police to help clear him and help the investigation. JMO.
Yeah. Its pretty obvious he is guilty, IMO.
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:57 PM
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Good Morning, Tia. Just finished reading the end of yesterdays thread, it sure ended with a bang, huh ? LOL...sleuthing should be left to the adept, not inept wouldn't you say ? Although it was refreshing to see a JII actually research something, even if it was the wrong something...


Thankfully it got straightened out right away!!!
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Good Morning, Tia. Just finished reading the end of yesterdays thread, it sure ended with a bang, huh ? LOL...sleuthing should be left to the adept, not inept wouldn't you say ? Although it was refreshing to see a JII actually research something, even if it was the wrong something...

Gosh, was it as bad as the time a JDI poster announced here to the whole world that Michelle's only sister was about to be arrested for mishandling her niece's funds?

Gosh, that must have been something that could never be recovered from !!
Something that one could never be able to gain credibility or being taken seriously again?

Oh, wait, it was!!
Carry on!!


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Old 04-22-2009, 03:40 PM
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Alibi?

I'm bringing this over from the last thread because it didn't get a reply from the alibi believers.



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His alibi must still stand, otherwise he wouldn't be free.

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Do you have a link or anything to back up your assumption that his alibi still stands? Otherwise, it is merely a rumor, and CW asks for links to such.
Unless you otherwise state it is only your opinion, which I don't think you did.
Thanxxxx.

If JY had an airtight alibi he would be talking to LE, would have paid for his wife's funeral and would not have given up custody of his daughter. JMO

If he could prove to LE that he did not have the opportunity to kill Michelle LE would not have spent the last 2 1/2 years serving search warrants that are aimed at Jason Lynn Young. JMO
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:53 PM
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I'm bringing this over from the last thread because it didn't get a reply from the alibi believers.



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His alibi must still stand, otherwise he wouldn't be free.

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Do you have a link or anything to back up your assumption that his alibi still stands? Otherwise, it is merely a rumor, and CW asks for links to such.
Unless you otherwise state it is only your opinion, which I don't think you did.
Thanxxxx.

If JY had an airtight alibi he would be talking to LE, would have paid for his wife's funeral and would not have given up custody of his daughter. JMO

If he could prove to LE that he did not have the opportunity to kill Michelle LE would not have spent the last 2 1/2 years serving search warrants that are aimed at Jason Lynn Young. JMO
The fact is, he would have been cleared if he had a solid alibi. Right?
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:57 PM
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Gosh, was it as bad as the time a JDI poster announced here to the whole world that Michelle's only sister was about to be arrested for mishandling her niece's funds?

Gosh, that must have been something that could never be recovered from !!
Something that one could never be able to gain credibility or being taken seriously again?

Oh, wait, it was!!
Carry on!!


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No Kat, it wasn't nearly as bad as that because that wasn't true and it vilified the victims sister. This thing yesterday was just funny don't you think ? Big difference...but it was nice to see a JII researching don't you think ?
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:27 PM
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snipped from Jerry50's post:

"If JY had an airtight alibi he would be talking to LE, would have paid for his wife's funeral and would not have given up custody of his daughter. JMO"

Don't you think that JY's silence is the thing that makes him look the most guilty ? As many posters have stated, Jason would be screaming from the rooftops if he could clear himself, or if he knew someone else ::cough:: Meredith ::cough:: was guilty, as others have insisted. There are a ton of disastrous things that have happened to him because of his silence, the two biggest being letting his daughter go and the $15+ million he now owes for wrongful death. He also lost out on a million dollar life insurance policy, jobs...the list goes on and on. All because he won't speak, and this constant explanation we are given, that his lawyer advises him to remain silent ? What lawyer ?
Remaining silent has ruined his life, no the murder did that for him actually. IMO
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Old 04-22-2009, 07:52 PM
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Gosh, was it as bad as the time a JDI poster announced here to the whole world that Michelle's only sister was about to be arrested for mishandling her niece's funds?

Gosh, that must have been something that could never be recovered from !!
Something that one could never be able to gain credibility or being taken seriously again?

Oh, wait, it was!!
Carry on!!


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Its still on the web. Even tells where the story came from. Don't hear much from the JDIs about that. LOL

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/pos...43.html#347843
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Old 04-22-2009, 07:54 PM
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The fact is, he would have been cleared if he had a solid alibi. Right?

How solid can sleeping in a motel room be? Isn't it up to LE tp prove he was in Raleigh not that he has to prove he wasn't?
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Old 04-22-2009, 08:28 PM
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How solid can sleeping in a motel room be? Isn't it up to LE tp prove he was in Raleigh not that he has to prove he wasn't?
Another poster claimed that he had a solid alibi but didn't have a link to back up that claim. Some were questioning the validity of that claim. IMO
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:17 PM
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Wrong. Is this the first case you've ever followed? Do you really think cops believe everything a suspect tells them?
A SOLID alibi, something concrete that LE doesn't require a statement from JY.

Hope that helps!
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:53 PM
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The fact is, he would have been cleared if he had a solid alibi. Right?
Yes, I believe so. If he had actually been at the hotel all night his phone would have been pinging. Have you seen where LE in Orlando has a record of all of the pings and calls from Casey's cell phone ona chart? They can tell what her patterns are and where she is.
I would bet that LE has done the same thing with JY. Would anyone believe that his phone would have been turned off that night when he might have missed a call or text from MM? I certainly don't. For as often as they were texting and calling was that the only
night they did not contact each other? If so that is certainly a cooincidence.
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:09 PM
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Yes, I believe so. If he had actually been at the hotel all night his phone would have been pinging. Have you seen where LE in Orlando has a record of all of the pings and calls from Casey's cell phone ona chart? They can tell what her patterns are and where she is.
I would bet that LE has done the same thing with JY. Would anyone believe that his phone would have been turned off that night when he might have missed a call or text from MM? I certainly don't. For as often as they were texting and calling was that the only
night they did not contact each other? If so that is certainly a cooincidence.
Yes,a huge coincidence, I would say, based on his calling and texting pattern in the whole scheme of things. Just as his call to his SIL to retrieve a document from his computer. I wonder how many calls he made to MF in the past?

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Old 04-22-2009, 10:45 PM
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How solid can sleeping in a motel room be? Isn't it up to LE tp prove he was in Raleigh not that he has to prove he wasn't?
How is he going to be able to convince anyone he was there, sleeping that nite ? He used his key ONCE when he checked in Nov 2, 2006 and the room was NEVER opened again until Nov 3, 2006 and that was by housekeeping, not Jason Young. He cannot prove his whereabouts from midnite 11/2/06 until 7:40 am 11/3/06 because he never re-entered that room !!
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Wrong. Is this the first case you've ever followed? Do you really think cops believe everything a suspect tells them?
ALIBI is the key word here, obviously if he had one, he'd be cleared. Do you not understand the meaning of the word ?
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Yes, I believe so. If he had actually been at the hotel all night his phone would have been pinging. Have you seen where LE in Orlando has a record of all of the pings and calls from Casey's cell phone ona chart? They can tell what her patterns are and where she is.
I would bet that LE has done the same thing with JY. Would anyone believe that his phone would have been turned off that night when he might have missed a call or text from MM? I certainly don't. For as often as they were texting and calling was that the only
night they did not contact each other? If so that is certainly a cooincidence.

From the search warrant
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5147063/...-March-10-2009

"Mr Young was discovered on a security video at the Hampton Inn in Hillsville Va.
The video was recorded at approx. 2358 hours (11:58 pm) on Nov 2, 2006 on and , in part, shows Mr Young as he headed towards a side exit door. This action closely followed a phone call at 2342 hours (11:42 pm) to Michelle Money. This phone call was not only the last transmission from Mr Youngs cell phone on Nov 2 2006, but it also signified an end to this cell phone recording a cell tower "ping" on the local cell phone tower."

To me it sounds like Jason checked in the hotel, went to his room, called Michelle Money and after that call, he turned his phone off and LEFT HIS ROOM. He is seen on the video heading towards the exit door at the hotel AFTER that phone call to MM and shutting his phone OFF. Does he sound like someone who would turn off his phone as he is LEAVING his hotel at midnite ? Not to me he doesn't, I think that phone is ON all the time except of course when he was driving BACK to Raleigh that nite, then of course he was smart enough to know to turn it off before he ever left the Hampton Inn, so of course there would be NO PINGS showing up on the WRONG TOWERS !!! IMO
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:25 AM
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How solid can sleeping in a motel room be? Isn't it up to LE tp prove he was in Raleigh not that he has to prove he wasn't?
If Jason had spent the night in the Hampton Inn, he would have screamed it from the rooftops and not an attorney on this earth would have been able to stop him. AND three life altering things would be entirely different.

He would have collected the Million dollar LI policy, instead of owing the Fishers 15½ Million.

He would have PRIMARY Custody of Cassidy, instead of "custodial time" every other weekend.

And lastly, he would be known as Jason Young, widower...instead of Jason Young, slayer.

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Old 04-23-2009, 09:20 AM
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I am glad if Jason has to wonder everyday if he will be arrested...I wonder if his attorney knows he is guilty. Can you imagine defending a person if they outright admitted that they bludgeoned someone to death? And I use to think I would like to go to law school......
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Old 04-23-2009, 11:31 AM
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Compared to the response to the misinformation about Meredith, that is very mild.

Let's see if GMBY is still in the hot seat in a couple of years!

Of course, as somebody has pointed out, GMBY's mistake is essentially harmless, unlike the other.

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Ain't ever going to happen, IMO. The JDIs have too much class.

The poster that made a mistake early on in this case has been mercilessly and unfairly persecuted for his mistake, to this day. MOO
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:24 PM
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You are exactly right, reborn. Sleeping in a motel room isn't all that solid but exiting/arrival at the hotel captured on video is pretty solid and Jason had no control over the security video. That hotel had multiple security cameras in place. If Jason left the hotel that night, his leaving and his return would have been captured on video and he would have been arrested immediately. The fact that he hasn't been arrested is most likely because there's no video showing his exiting or returning to the hotel that night.

Why would LE arrest JY immediately if they had video of him leaving the hotel? They still have to prove BARD that he had the time to drive to Raleigh and then have evidence BARD that he was in the room at the time of the murder.
It has been suggested before and I would like to repeat it: Watch Forensic Files and read True Crime books. To gather evidence takes time, footwork, phonecalls, followups and mountains of paperwork.
Posters would be taken more seriously if they actually knew what goes on in a murder investigation.
To continue to vilify LE is dispicable. These men and women would not be involved in this case except for the fact that they were called to a home to do their job where a young, innocent pregnant Mother was bludgeoned to death.
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:34 PM
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You aren't making much sense. LE determined Jason was at the hotel without his help.

Apparently this alibi is solid enough that LE can't prove he left and returned to Raleigh.
Based on the search warrants, police have no information about Jason's whereabouts between 12:01 and 7:40 AM on November 3. It appears that he checked into a hotel, used his keycard to enter his room, returned to the front desk, and was last seen shortly before midnight heading towards an exit. Jason's keycard was not used again. There is no reason to assume that he returned to his room, and there is no evidence to support the argument that he returned to his room.

Police have determined that Jason was at the hotel on the evening of November 2, but they have not determined where he was during the hours in question. Jason does not have an alibi for the hours between midnight and 7:40 November 3, 2006.
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You are exactly right, reborn. Sleeping in a motel room isn't all that solid but exiting/arrival at the hotel captured on video is pretty solid and Jason had no control over the security video. That hotel had multiple security cameras in place. If Jason left the hotel that night, his leaving and his return would have been captured on video and he would have been arrested immediately. The fact that he hasn't been arrested is most likely because there's no video showing his exiting or returning to the hotel that night.
If Jason returned to his room after going to the front desk, there would be evidence that his keycard was used. Evidence suggests that he did not return to his room, but kept on walking as he neared the exit.
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Compared to the response to the misinformation about Meredith, that is very mild.

Let's see if GMBY is still in the hot seat in a couple of years!

Of course, as somebody has pointed out, GMBY's mistake is essentially harmless, unlike the other.

IMO

Everyone makes mistakes, so I doubt anyone will bother GBMY about a mistake that he/she admitted to making. Geez, back in the first days after Michelle's murder, it was speculated on here whether or not Meredith had something to do with it. As more info came out, it was clear that JY set her up.
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:32 PM
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I am glad if Jason has to wonder everyday if he will be arrested...I wonder if his attorney knows he is guilty. Can you imagine defending a person if they outright admitted that they bludgeoned someone to death? And I use to think I would like to go to law school......
Could you tell me why you think Jason has an attorney now? He got an attorney when Michelle was first killed . He is doing what that attorney advised. He got an attorney for the WDS and followed their advise. He got an attorney for the custody suit and reached an agreement. Are their charged pending against Jason that he would need an attorney now?
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Its still on the web. Even tells where the story came from. Don't hear much from the JDIs about that. LOL

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/pos...43.html#347843
Why do you continue to link other message boards here? This is not a valid news source, much like linking this board would not be considered a valid news source. JMO.
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Based on the search warrants, police have no information about Jason's whereabouts between 12:01 and 7:40 AM on November 3. It appears that he checked into a hotel, used his keycard to enter his room, returned to the front desk, and was last seen shortly before midnight heading towards an exit. Jason's keycard was not used again. There is no reason to assume that he returned to his room, and there is no evidence to support the argument that he returned to his room.

Police have determined that Jason was at the hotel on the evening of November 2, but they have not determined where he was during the hours in question. Jason does not have an alibi for the hours between midnight and 7:40 November 3, 2006.
That's right, he has no soild alibi between 12 midnight on 11/2 and 7:40 AM on 11/3. No pings, no text messages or calls to MM, etc. JMO.
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From the search warrant
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5147063/...-March-10-2009

"Mr Young was discovered on a security video at the Hampton Inn in Hillsville Va.
The video was recorded at approx. 2358 hours (11:58 pm) on Nov 2, 2006 on and , in part, shows Mr Young as he headed toward a side exit door. This action closely followed a phone call at 2342 hours (11:42 pm) to Michelle Money. This phone call was not only the last transmission from Mr Young's cell phone on Nov 2 2006, but it also signified an end to this cell phone recording a cell tower "ping" on the local cell phone tower."

To me it sounds like Jason checked in the hotel, went to his room, called Michelle Money and after that call, he turned his phone off and LEFT HIS ROOM. He is seen on the video heading toward the exit door at the hotel AFTER that phone call to MM and shutting his phone OFF. Does he sound like someone who would turn off his phone as he is LEAVING his hotel at midnite ? Not to me he doesn't, I think that phone is ON all the time except of course when he was driving BACK to Raleigh that nite, then of course he was smart enough to know to turn it off before he ever left the Hampton Inn, so of course there would be NO PINGS showing up on the WRONG TOWERS !!! IMO

You mention that he was seen heading toward an exit. You didn't mention that the stairs to Jason's room was also in that direction.
We have seen no photos of Jason loading his luggage back in his car. He is shown with a strap over his shoulder at check in. So we know he had at least one bag. He also changes clothes another proof he had a bag. Where did that bag go? He isn't carrying it when he is headed toward the exit or stairs.
Warrants are written to be kinda tricky. The first ping on his cell was at 7:40 south of Wytheville , Va. How far South? We don't know. If it was a mile then that would put him back at the motel about 7:05 or so.
I disagree on turning the cell off. If I was heading back to Raleigh to kill someone I would leave the cell in my room still pinging. I think Jason is that smart also. I think Jason went to bed after you saw him in the hall heading toward the stairs.
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What more evidence beyond security video recording comings and goings does LE need to prove Jason had opportunity? None. They don't have it and have never had it and the lack of arrest should come as no surprise to you. Posters would be taken more seriously if they actually used a little common sense.

LE are not perfect nor are they infallible. They have admitted they made mistakes collecting evidence in this case.
Just because JY may have been seen leaving the hotel which indicates possible opportunity is not enough evidence in my mind to prove he did it and I am sure LE thinks the same.
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You mention that he was seen heading toward an exit. You didn't mention that the stairs to Jason's room was also in that direction.
We have seen no photos of Jason loading his luggage back in his car. He is shown with a strap over his shoulder at check in. So we know he had at least one bag. He also changes clothes another proof he had a bag. Where did that bag go? He isn't carrying it when he is headed toward the exit or stairs.
Warrants are written to be kinda tricky. The first ping on his cell was at 7:40 south of Wytheville , Va. How far South? We don't know. If it was a mile then that would put him back at the motel about 7:05 or so.
I disagree on turning the cell off. If I was heading back to Raleigh to kill someone I would leave the cell in my room still pinging. I think Jason is that smart also. I think Jason went to bed after you saw him in the hall heading toward the stairs.

JY couldn't leave the phone in the room pinging because if anyone called or sent a text he would not be there to answer it. Wouldn't that look suspicious if it was MM?
He also waited until midnight to travel back to Raleigh. He was on a tight timeline. He couldn't afford to take the chance that he may not make it back to his room on time to pick up the phone.
If JY was ready to go to bed why did he take the time to change clothes to walk down the hallway? How many changes of clothes did he bring to go on an overnight trip?
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You mention that he was seen heading toward an exit. You didn't mention that the stairs to Jason's room was also in that direction.
We have seen no photos of Jason loading his luggage back in his car. He is shown with a strap over his shoulder at check in. So we know he had at least one bag. He also changes clothes another proof he had a bag. Where did that bag go? He isn't carrying it when he is headed toward the exit or stairs.
Warrants are written to be kinda tricky. The first ping on his cell was at 7:40 south of Wytheville , Va. How far South? We don't know. If it was a mile then that would put him back at the motel about 7:05 or so.
I disagree on turning the cell off. If I was heading back to Raleigh to kill someone I would leave the cell in my room still pinging. I think Jason is that smart also. I think Jason went to bed after you saw him in the hall heading toward the stairs.
Do you have a link to a photo of Jason heading towards the stairs ? I have not seen a pic like that. I did see a strap over JY's shoulder in a picture, but I have no idea what that strap held...it could have been a guitar for all I know. The picture I did see of Jason in the hallway, I couldn't tell if he had the bag over his shoulder, what I did notice was the bulky, layered-looking clothing he wore, very dark clothing. He looked 75 pounds heavier with all those clothes on, wonder why he would layer on so many clothes and so late at nite ? Where did all those clothes go, when he arrived at his mom's the next day, she said he didn't bring any clothes in with him ? Where did his other clothes disappear to ? You say if you were him and heading back to Raleigh you would leave the phone in the hotel room pinging ? Well, you think he slept in that hotel room that nite, so why do you think he turned the phone off ? And, didn't turn it back on till the next day at 7:40 am ? For someone who spends so much of their time calling and texting, why did he turn the phone off the nite before after talking to MM ? And didn't turn it on till the ping puts him on the road to his meeting the next day ? I found it kinda confusing that you said you would leave the phone on in hotel room if you were JY and you were heading back to Raleigh to kill someone, you then say you think JY is that smart too, what do you base that opinion on ? TIA
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Do you have a link to a photo of Jason heading towards the stairs ? I have not seen a pic like that. I did see a strap over JY's shoulder in a picture, but I have no idea what that strap held...it could have been a guitar for all I know. The picture I did see of Jason in the hallway, I couldn't tell if he had the bag over his shoulder, what I did notice was the bulky, layered-looking clothing he wore, very dark clothing. He looked 75 pounds heavier with all those clothes on, wonder why he would layer on so many clothes and so late at nite ? Where did all those clothes go, when he arrived at his mom's the next day, she said he didn't bring any clothes in with him ? Where did his other clothes disappear to ? You say if you were him and heading back to Raleigh you would leave the phone in the hotel room pinging ? Well, you think he slept in that hotel room that nite, so why do you think he turned the phone off ? And, didn't turn it back on till the next day at 7:40 am ? For someone who spends so much of their time calling and texting, why did he turn the phone off the nite before after talking to MM ? And didn't turn it on till the ping puts him on the road to his meeting the next day ? I found it kinda confusing that you said you would leave the phone on in hotel room if you were JY and you were heading back to Raleigh to kill someone, you then say you think JY is that smart too, what do you base that opinion on ? TIA
If I give links to back up what I say I am obsessed. If I don't give links you guys want them. I don't think you want to discuss the case at all. I think you just want to bait so I am finished with this conversation. Good Nite..
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Old 04-24-2009, 01:03 AM
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JY couldn't leave the phone in the room pinging because if anyone called or sent a text he would not be there to answer it. Wouldn't that look suspicious if it was MM?
He also waited until midnight to travel back to Raleigh. He was on a tight timeline. He couldn't afford to take the chance that he may not make it back to his room on time to pick up the phone.
If JY was ready to go to bed why did he take the time to change clothes to walk down the hallway? How many changes of clothes did he bring to go on an overnight trip?
It was after midnight I guess he figured most people were in bed by then. Wonder why he waited till midnight to go back to Raleigh if indeed he did? That part is gonna be hard for the DA to explain . I think the explanation is that he never went back to Raleigh. About the change of clothes. Do you put back on your dirty clothes when you take a shower?
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Old 04-24-2009, 02:23 AM
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If I give links to back up what I say I am obsessed. If I don't give links you guys want them. I don't think you want to discuss the case at all. I think you just want to bait so I am finished with this conversation. Good Nite..
Cmon, I plainly said I never saw a picture of Jason heading to stairs nor do I know where the stairs are in that hotel. I was NOT baiting, but if you don't have the link that's fine, too. Suit yourself, but don't accuse ME of baiting, usually I'm the one being baited and I don't make a practice of it.
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Old 04-24-2009, 08:08 AM
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Does anyone actually believe that Jason is innocent, and if so, why?

That would be addressed to Reborn, Kat4eagles, Stellagant, GMBY, the King's Coal and anyone else I missed.
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Old 04-24-2009, 08:17 AM
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Does anyone actually believe that Jason is innocent, and if so, why?

That would be addressed to Reborn, Kat4eagles, Stellagant, GMBY, the King's Coal and anyone else I missed.

I have given my reasons for thinging he may be innocent. I have given my reasons for thinking Meredith may be guilty. Remember I asked for you guys that think he is guilty to give me a list of reasons?
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It was after midnight I guess he figured most people were in bed by then. Wonder why he waited till midnight to go back to Raleigh if indeed he did? <snipped>
It was after midnight. He figured most people were in bed by then and it was much less likely that he would be seen leaving the hotel. IMO
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Old 04-24-2009, 08:39 AM
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I have given my reasons for thinging he may be innocent. I have given my reasons for thinking Meredith may be guilty. Remember I asked for you guys that think he is guilty to give me a list of reasons?
You may have responded point by point, search warrant by search warrant, but that doesn't answer my question. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts. In retrospect, what are your reasons, in a couple of sentences (like a peanut shell), for thinking Jason is not guilty of bashing his wife's head in. I am interested in the totality, not the ... he didn't leave the rock propped in the door ... stuff.

Meredith had the misfortune of having Jason as a brother in law. She lost her sister because of him. What are your reasons for thinking Meredith may be guilty. Can you list them succinctly so I can understand your position?

Who is "you guys"? Are you trying to understand this spousal homicide, or are you picking teams?
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I have given my reasons for thinging he may be innocent. I have given my reasons for thinking Meredith may be guilty. Remember I asked for you guys that think he is guilty to give me a list of reasons?
  • His DNA surrounded by blood spatter in the bedroom
  • A bloody footprint that matches the sole of a shoe known to be owned by him
  • Missing shirt and shoe referenced in second bullet
  • Strange calls to friends to ostensibly establish an alibi
  • Sending Meredith over on a "fluke" mission
  • He gave every indication that he hated his wife
  • The fact that Cassidy was cleaned up after the crime and before Meredith found her


There are others but that's a start.
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