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Sex offender charged in slaying
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...WS01/303080018
WINTON HILLS – Relatives looked out for Esme Kenney because she was the baby of her family.
That’s why it was so difficult Sunday for the tight-knit group to understand how and why the 13-year-old who left for a jog Saturday afternoon never returned.
Police found Esme’s body at 3:30 a.m. Sunday, nearly 12 hours after she was last seen jogging and just a block from where she grew up on Winton Ridge Lane.
Later Sunday, police arrested Anthony Kirkland, 40, whom they discovered in the woods. Kirkland, who faces a murder charge, has a prior police record.
Brad Kenney, Esme’s cousin, said the seventh-grader who attended the School for Creative & Performing Arts was special.
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So sad!! Such a beautiful life this little girl was living. I seriuosly dont know when it is ever safe enough to let children out of our site! I can't imagine having girls, my boys worry me enough. How harmless to see your daughter go out for a run. Makes me so mad.
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So sad!! Such a beautiful life this little girl was living. I seriously don't know when it is ever safe enough to let children out of our site! I can't imagine having girls, my boys worry me enough. How harmless to see your daughter go out for a run. Makes me so mad.
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It seems no child is safe. Boys are preyed upon by these sadistic pedophiles too. No adult is safe either, be it man or woman.
It has just become such a frightening time for parents when children cant just be children anymore. They can be snatched from their very own yards, out for a jog, playing in a park or simply going down to the neighborhood corner store.
Such tragedy each and everyday, it seems.
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http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...0007/1055/NEWS
Bond set at $5.3M in teen's death.
A convicted sex offender was ordered held on $5,350,000 bond this morning on charges he killed a 13-year-old girl student at the Cincinnati School for the Creative and Performing Arts who went for a run Saturday and never came home.
• Photos: Suspect in teen's slaying pleads not guilty
Police found Esme Kenney ’s body at 3:30 a.m. Sunday, nearly 12 hours after she was last seen jogging and just a block from where she grew up on Winton Ridge Lane in Winton Hills. Later Sunday, police arrested Kirkland, whom they discovered in the woods. Kirkland was charged with murder.
According to county records, Kirkland was convicted in March 2008 of soliciting sex from a 13-year-old girl and was jailed until Oct. 20, 2008. He was sentenced to spend one year in prison and ordered to register his name on a public list of sex offenders. In February he failed to register and a warrant was issued for his arrest last Wednesday.
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What the heck! Why do these horrible people kill the children when they are done with them? What is that? Are they so disgusted with themselves they have to. Ahhhhh I hate stories like this.
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What the heck! Why do these horrible people kill the children when they are done with them? What is that? Are they so disgusted with themselves they have to. Ahhhhh I hate stories like this.
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IMO, it is because they have no feelings for human life. They just do their brutality and then murder the innocent victim to leave no witness behind.
It is so chilling how many can kill at will and never blink and eye.
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What the heck! Why do these horrible people kill the children when they are done with them? What is that? Are they so disgusted with themselves they have to. Ahhhhh I hate stories like this.
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It is my understanding that these predators usually have proir run ins with the law. They eventually become murders so they can eliminate any witnesses. Truly tragic.
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Yet another convicted sex offender re-offending.
How many more of our nations children have to die before we pass the one strike law?
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Yet another convicted sex offender re-offending.
How many more of our nations children have to die before we pass the one strike law?
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You said it best!
How many children would still be living if no sex offender was given a second chance? Makes me sick.
Prayers for the family of the 13 y/o. Tragic and senseless.
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with that kind of bail, we can rest assured he will there a long time
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Teens Killer May Be Suspect in Two Unsolved Murders
http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story...kX1wPib1A.cspx
This mans criminal history is extensive and there is absolutely no reason he should have been out of prison!! IMO He was found in the same woods as her body and he was holding her iPod.
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http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...WS01/303080018
WINTON HILLS – Relatives looked out for Esme Kenney because she was the baby of her family.
That’s why it was so difficult Sunday for the tight-knit group to understand how and why the 13-year-old who left for a jog Saturday afternoon never returned.
Police found Esme’s body at 3:30 a.m. Sunday, nearly 12 hours after she was last seen jogging and just a block from where she grew up on Winton Ridge Lane.
Later Sunday, police arrested Anthony Kirkland, 40, whom they discovered in the woods. Kirkland, who faces a murder charge, has a prior police record.
Brad Kenney, Esme’s cousin, said the seventh-grader who attended the School for Creative & Performing Arts was special.
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I grew up not far from where Esme was killed. I remember going fishing with my dad and cousins near where she was found. This is so tragic and senseless. That guy had no business being out in the real world, IMO.
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03-10-2009, 12:56 PM
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You said it best!
How many children would still be living if no sex offender was given a second chance? Makes me sick.
Prayers for the family of the 13 y/o. Tragic and senseless.
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well if we look at "the list", I think we can see that the cost to imprison all those people would be high, we would have to give up the drug war to be able to afford it and to make room for them all in the prisons.....
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well if we look at "the list", I think we can see that the cost to imprison all those people would be high, we would have to give up the drug war to be able to afford it and to make room for them all in the prisons.....
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Well the solution is not to put them back out on the streets.
Let's start with this instead:
1. Less liberties in the prison for inmates. i.e. no mail, no phone calls, no television, no library. (this would free up many prison employees who spend countless days and hours scanning mail for illegal items etc.) (If you cut ties with the outside world, the gang bangers lose power. It's a no brainer)
2. Nothing in their cells, ie magazines etc. (another big waste of guards time having to go through looking for home made weapons etc.) Just feed them and give them water.
Let's make prison life more difficult for those in prison instead of losing innocent lives of children because we are releasing dangerous criminals.
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Well the solution is not to put them back out on the streets.
Let's start with this instead:
1. Less liberties in the prison for inmates. i.e. no mail, no phone calls, no television, no library. (this would free up many prison employees who spend countless days and hours scanning mail for illegal items etc.) (If you cut ties with the outside world, the gang bangers lose power. It's a no brainer)
2. Nothing in their cells, ie magazines etc. (another big waste of guards time having to go through looking for home made weapons etc.) Just feed them and give them water.
Let's make prison life more difficult for those in prison instead of losing innocent lives of children because we are releasing dangerous criminals.
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we do that, maximum security, but not everyone is or should be in maximum security
one thing you need to remember
sometimes the inmates have no victims, sometimes they are the victims...
http://www.forejustice.org/wc/ray_krone_JD_vol2_i9.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/25/dna.prisonrelease.ap/
Dogmatic said "Let's make prison life more difficult for those in prison instead of losing innocent lives of children because we are releasing dangerous criminals."
how does making life more difficult for these people in prison then it already is stop prisoners from being released? I do not see the connection?
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we do that, maximum security, but not everyone is or should be in maximum security
one thing you need to remember
sometimes the inmates have no victims, sometimes they are the victims...
http://www.forejustice.org/wc/ray_krone_JD_vol2_i9.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/25/dna.prisonrelease.ap/
Dogmatic said "Let's make prison life more difficult for those in prison instead of losing innocent lives of children because we are releasing dangerous criminals."
how does making life more difficult for these people in prison then it already is stop prisoners from being released? I do not see the connection?
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The connection in my mind is this:
It takes alot of staff to review mail, screen visitors, etc. Instead, the money paying that staff could be used to build extra cells and pay guards to do their job, not to filter through mail and screen visitors for people that don't deserve mail or visitors.
i.e. convicted murderers and pedophiles do not deserve any of the following luxuries:
television
newspapers
books
mail
visitors
but they get those things and that's expensive to taxpayers. Make the cutbacks with the privileges that are give those incarcarated. Don't ship these scumballs back on our streets to kill our children.
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Originally Posted by LisaM22
we do that, maximum security, but not everyone is or should be in maximum security
one thing you need to remember
sometimes the inmates have no victims, sometimes they are the victims...
http://www.forejustice.org/wc/ray_krone_JD_vol2_i9.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/25/dna.prisonrelease.ap/
Dogmatic said "Let's make prison life more difficult for those in prison instead of losing innocent lives of children because we are releasing dangerous criminals."
how does making life more difficult for these people in prison then it already is stop prisoners from being released? I do not see the connection?
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And one more thing. In my opinion, how we run our prisons should not be defined around how many potentially innocent inhabitants the prison contains.
That's a seperate and very important issue that does not belong on this thread.
This is about a murder of a 13 year old girl, potentially by a person that should have already been behind bars for life, but wasn't
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And one more thing. In my opinion, how we run our prisons should not be defined around how many potentially innocent inhabitants the prison contains.
That's a seperate and very important issue that does not belong on this thread.
This is about a murder of a 13 year old girl, potentially by a person that should have already been behind bars for life, but wasn't
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your the one that brought up the bread and water for all prisoners, ect... ect... ect... - I think we have no right to treat all prisoners inhuman because you feel some are the worst of the worst, just think if you were in there with the worst of the worst, not somewhere I would want to sleep, we treat them with the basics, nothing more, the better behaved they are the better living conditions they have to a point, the worse behaved they are the less privileges they have, that helps the guards control them
what I was saying we need to make sure we are not putting people in prison for long durations that can be diverted through drug treatment, shorter sentences or jail, leaving room for the ones that are so dangerous they need to be on a list, save long prison sentences for the worst of the worst, those that committed a crime against someone other then themselves -- like in this case
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your the one that brought up the bread and water for all prisoners, ect... ect... ect... - I think we have no right to treat all prisoners inhuman because you feel some are the worst of the worst, just think if you were in there with the worst of the worst, not somewhere I would want to sleep, we treat them with the basics, nothing more, the better behaved they are the better living conditions they have to a point, the worse behaved they are the less privileges they have, that helps the guards control them
what I was saying we need to make sure we are not putting people in prison for long durations that can be diverted through drug treatment, shorter sentences or jail, leaving room for the ones that are so dangerous they need to be on a list, save long prison sentences for the worst of the worst, those that committed a crime against someone other then themselves -- like in this case
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Lisa...I am with you on this. End the drug war. It is a failure just as Prohibition was. Leave maximum security to sub humans like this, if you are so inclined. I myself prefer the death penatly for cases like this, but many would not agree. |
My prayers tonight will be for this family. May they find peace somewhere, someday. May this joker meet with justice...swift and sweet. IMO
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Update 3/19
From Cincinnati.com:
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...0107/303190033
Basic recap: defendant arraigned for murder of Esme Kenney, 13; Casonya “Sharee” Crawford, 14, and Mary Jo Newton, 45.
Kirkland collapsed during the hearing today, but was propped up and the arraignment was continued.
Prosecutor Joe Deters has asked for the DP if Kirkland is found guilty.
Makes me long for the days of public hangings, or Old Smokey.
The needle would just be too good for this guy, IMO.
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"We're looking for a body"
The latest development:
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...903200345/1165
"Cincinnati police have been asked to have their cadaver dogs ready. Investigators fear they'll find another body in the woods."
So it appears that Kirkland may have killed others besides the three that he has been arrested for...and the one murder that netted him a paltry 16 years behind bars!
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It seems no child is safe. Boys are preyed upon by these sadistic pedophiles too. No adult is safe either, be it man or woman.
It has just become such a frightening time for parents when children cant just be children anymore. They can be snatched from their very own yards, out for a jog, playing in a park or simply going down to the neighborhood corner store.
Such tragedy each and everyday, it seems.
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Great post GentleBreeze
ITA
What has become of our civilized country when this type of crime is going on every single day!!
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There would be no back-log in my court for these animals. We, as a society, continue to try
to rehabilite these dregs of society. These aminals should be culled form the rest of
society, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, we have to save them. For what? Some things just are
not fixable. Once we FINALLY learn this we, as a society can move forward.
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There would be no back-log in my court for these animals. We, as a society, continue to try
to rehabilite these dregs of society. These aminals should be culled form the rest of
society, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, we have to save them. For what? Some things just are
not fixable. Once we FINALLY learn this we, as a society can move forward.
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ANYONE, that can violate a child at ANY TIME, during their life whether they be drunk, on drugs, depressed, etc, should never walk among us again.
There may be a few of the creeps that can be rehabbed, but you know what? I don't care about those few. I care more about the innocent children that we are using as pedophile rehab lab rats. Every time one of these monsters RE-offend, we, as a society, have failed our most vulnerable citizens.
I think we are defined on how we protect our most vulnerable citizens. Currently, we are failing..........
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There would be no back-log in my court for these animals. We, as a society, continue to try
to rehabilite these dregs of society. These aminals should be culled form the rest of
society, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, we have to save them. For what? Some things just are
not fixable. Once we FINALLY learn this we, as a society can move forward.
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re:[...we have to save them. For what? Some things just are just not fixable.]
We "save" them so that they can, be free to go out into society to, again, sodomize, rape and sometimes, murder our innocent children.
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sexual predators allowed to roam free!!
I couldn't believe it when I heard the report that 78 registered sex offenders were within a 5 mile radius of Sandra Cantu's home. I wonder if the public were aware of these statistics.
I agree...there is no cure for these deranged, vile creatures. If a dog posed half as much threat to a child it would be destroyed yet...they are not even confined..they are allowed to slither around playgrounds and schools seeking out their next victim. When will the Government stop wasting time on drugs and attack the true cancer in society.
My heart aches for the families of these poor children....the animal should be handed over to the family when found and have to face their wrath. This scum of society should not be allowed to pollute our air with another breath of their perverted sickness.
I wonder how quickly the laws would change if the next unfortunate victim were Obama's little girl?
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