Michelle Fisher Young case 2/21 thru 2/25

awareness · #1 02-21-2009, 02:01 AM

Does the GJ convene again soon?

5swab5 · #2 02-21-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by awareness

Does the GJ convene again soon?

Thank You for the new thread.

Goodness Gracious, the MY board is kinda like Three-card Monte. Now you see it...now you don't.

Not sure about the GJ, but if recent rumors are correct about LE visiting Brevard, sounds like they are keeping the pressure on. MOO

Lindsey · #3 02-21-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by awareness

Does the GJ convene again soon?

I believe the GJ will meet this coming Tuesday, Feb 24.

Stellagant · #4 02-21-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by onederwomyn

The first time I read the CNN one it did say there was an arrest warrant. Now they have changed it to read "pursuing an arrest warrant." Strange. At any rate, it looks like they are pretty sure they know who did it.

And they cleared Gary Condit pretty early in the investigation. He should not have been having an affair, but in a way I felt bad for him because it wrecked his career...even though he had nothing to do with her death.

Who is "they"????

I'd like to see a link to support your claim he was ever cleared. He is yet another example that proves an affair does not equal guilty of murder.

awareness · #5 02-21-2009, 04:00 PM

JMO that there's more CE that ties Jason to Michelle's murder than there's evidence that Gary Condit killed Chandra. Awesome about the Levy case though, good for her parents, friends & loved ones.

awareness · #6 02-21-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsey

I believe the GJ will meet this coming Tuesday, Feb 24.

Thanks. I feel pretty good the case will be presented within this year at some point - maybe not now although Id like that, but perhaps when the transition period for Cassidy is over & Meredith has primary physical custody.

JMO/IMO

#7 02-21-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by onederwomyn

The first time I read the CNN one it did say there was an arrest warrant. Now they have changed it to read "pursuing an arrest warrant." Strange. At any rate, it looks like they are pretty sure they know who did it.

And they cleared Gary Condit pretty early in the investigation. He should not have been having an affair, but in a way I felt bad for him because it wrecked his career...even though he had nothing to do with her death.

Unfortunately they did not clear him. So perhaps now he will finally be cleared.

Cardinal · #8 02-21-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by penguin01

Unfortunately they did not clear him. So perhaps now he will finally be cleared.

Having the truth come out will hopefully provide closure for both the Levy and Condit families. IIRC, Condit cooperated with authorities in the investigation of Chandra's murder. That caused me to doubt he was involved.

I think if Jason Young had done the same, public opinion would be more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

And yes, I know he has the right to remain silent. I'm only talking about the impact of that choice on public opinion.

Stellagant · #9 02-21-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal

Having the truth come out will hopefully provide closure for both the Levy and Condit families. IIRC, Condit cooperated with authorities in the investigation of Chandra's murder. That caused me to doubt he was involved.

I think if Jason Young had done the same, public opinion would be more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

And yes, I know he has the right to remain silent. I'm only talking about the impact of that choice on public opinion.

You're kidding, right? Because in reality, the media fueled public opinion Condit was lying and the guy lost his job.

alterEgo© · #10 02-21-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal

Having the truth come out will hopefully provide closure for both the Levy and Condit families. IIRC, Condit cooperated with authorities in the investigation of Chandra's murder. That caused me to doubt he was involved.

I think if Jason Young had done the same, public opinion would be more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

And yes, I know he has the right to remain silent. I'm only talking about the impact of that choice on public opinion.

Yeah, that whole cooperating with LE did Scott Peterson a whole world of good in the court of public opinion. I'm sure it would have done the same for Jason Young.

Cardinal · #11 02-21-2009, 08:29 PM

Condit had an affair with an intern and initially lied about it. That, as much as anything, cost him his job. Apparently his constituents have morals.

Scott Peterson was found guilty - are you drawing comparisons, AE?

alterEgo© · #12 02-21-2009, 08:35 PM

No Card, I'm saying that cooperating with LE doesn't generate sympathy in the court of public opinion and cited the Peterson West case as an example.

Lindsey · #13 02-21-2009, 08:37 PM

And now back to Michelle Young case ....

I wonder if Meredith has moved either of her two housemates out yet so that she can have a pretty little room ready for Cassidy on Wednesday. Or if Linda is flying down from NY, they might just have to stay at a hotel if both housemates aren't moved out yet. IIRC, it's only 3 bedrooms in the house.

Stellagant · #14 02-21-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal

Condit had an affair with an intern and initially lied about it. That, as much as anything, cost him his job. Apparently his constituents have morals.

Scott Peterson was found guilty - are you drawing comparisons, AE?

Condit did not lie to the public. That's the myth that cost him his job and he turned around and sued for libel and settled out of court.

AE's point is that Scott Peterson cooperated and was found guilty in the court of public opinion before he was found guilty at trial.

Stellagant · #15 02-21-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsey

And now back to Michelle Young case ....

I wonder if Meredith has moved either of her two housemates out yet so that she can have a pretty little room ready for Cassidy on Wednesday. Or if Linda is flying down from NY, they might just have to stay at a hotel if both housemates aren't moved out yet. IIRC, it's only 3 bedrooms in the house.

iirc, the custody agreement requires the housemates to be vacated prior to CY's arrival.

Stellagant · #16 02-21-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by alterEgo©

No Card, I'm saying that cooperating with LE doesn't generate sympathy in the court of public opinion and cited the Peterson West case as an example.

an excellent example, imo.

Cardinal · #17 02-21-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by alterEgo©

No Card, I'm saying that cooperating with LE doesn't generate sympathy in the court of public opinion and cited the Peterson West case as an example.

I disagree, AE. When I first heard about Michelle's murder on the local news, it was reported that Jason was "out of town when the murder occurred." I accepted that, initially, and didn't consider him a suspect.

When that was later clarified, I still didn't automatically consider him a suspect. It wasn't until I heard reports that he refused to speak with LE that I got suspicious. For me, only, if I had heard instead that he was cooperating with LE, as did Jenna Nielsen's husband, I would have been more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

That's all I'm saying.

Cardinal · #18 02-21-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsey

And now back to Michelle Young case ....

I wonder if Meredith has moved either of her two housemates out yet so that she can have a pretty little room ready for Cassidy on Wednesday. Or if Linda is flying down from NY, they might just have to stay at a hotel if both housemates aren't moved out yet. IIRC, it's only 3 bedrooms in the house.

I'm sure she has, Lindsey. And if not, I'm sure she has arranged for the housemates (are there 2 - how do you know?) to stay elsewhere for the weekend. It isn't necessary that they be "moved out" - only that they not be present overnight during Cassidy's visit, as I understand it.

And I wouldn't at all be surprised if Linda is coming down for the weekend. Wouldn't you, if you had a granddaughter you couldn't wait to see?

Stellagant · #19 02-21-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal

I disagree, AE. When I first heard about Michelle's murder on the local news, it was reported that Jason was "out of town when the murder occurred." I accepted that, initially, and didn't consider him a suspect.

When that was later clarified, I still didn't automatically consider him a suspect. It wasn't until I heard reports that he refused to speak with LE that I got suspicious. For me, only, if I had heard instead that he was cooperating with LE, as did Jenna Nielsen's husband, I would have been more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

That's all I'm saying.

Raven Abaroa cooperated with LE and public opinion is that he was responsible.

Lindsey · #20 02-21-2009, 08:56 PM

Item 7 on page 5

LINK

Of course I would go for a visit while Cassidy is there. Why the argumentive tone?

I was mostly trying to get back on topic to keep us out of trouble.

Jester · #21 02-21-2009, 09:06 PM

Another example to show that Condit was not a suspect, and that this case is entirely different from the murder of Michelle Young. The only similarity is that both cases are taking time to solve.

"I wouldn't think you would because, clearly, the Washington, D.C., police have made it clear consistently from the beginning that Gary Condit was not even a suspect with regard to the investigation into Chandra Levy's life."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,147930,00.html
Tuesday, February 15, 2005

Cardinal · #22 02-21-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsey

Item 7 on page 5

LINK

Of course I would go for a visit while Cassidy is there. Why the argumentive tone?

I was mostly trying to get back on topic to keep us out of trouble.

You obviously misunderstood the "tone" of my post, Lindsey. I was simply clarifying the terms of the custody agreement and expressing my belief that Linda would be looking forward to seeing Cassidy. IIRC, it has been some months since the three (Linda, Meredith and Cassidy) were together.

Lindsey · #23 02-21-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal

< snip > It isn't necessary that they be "moved out" - only that they not be present overnight during Cassidy's visit, as I understand it.

< snip>

After rereading the custody agreement, I think you're right. They have until August 1st to move out but they can't be there while Cassidy is there? But Meredith can hardly decorate a room for Cassidy if the housemates are still living in the rooms. I'm sure she'll want Cassidy to have a lovely bedroom befitting a 5 year old girl. I know I would.

Cardinal · #24 02-21-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsey

After rereading the custody agreement, I think you're right. They have until August 1st to move out but they can't be there while Cassidy is there? But Meredith can hardly decorate a room for Cassidy if the housemates are still living in the rooms. I'm sure she'll want Cassidy to have a lovely bedroom befitting a 5 year old girl. I know I would.

Something tells me that Cassidy will have a lovely bedroom by the time Meredith assumes primary custody. In the meantime, something tells me Cassidy will enjoy her time with her aunt Meredith and grandmother Linda regardless of the room's decorations.

JMO and good night.

Jester · #25 02-21-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alterEgo©

Yeah, that whole cooperating with LE did Scott Peterson a whole world of good in the court of public opinion. I'm sure it would have done the same for Jason Young.

I guess when the husband is guilty, it doesn't make that much difference whether he cooperates with the police or not. Scott cooperated, was guilty, and was convicted. Condit cooperated, was not guilty, was never named a suspect, had an alibi, and he's still a free man. Jason has not cooperated, has been named the slayer, is still a suspect 2 years+ after the murder, and will probably be convicted.

BSNBREVARDNC · #26 02-21-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsey

After rereading the custody agreement, I think you're right. They have until August 1st to move out but they can't be there while Cassidy is there? But Meredith can hardly decorate a room for Cassidy if the housemates are still living in the rooms. I'm sure she'll want Cassidy to have a lovely bedroom befitting a 5 year old girl. I know I would.

Maybe the hearing on damages for the WDS will solve the problem. If LF get the townhouse in Raleigh, the roommates can move in there.

BSNBREVARDNC · #27 02-21-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I guess when the husband is guilty, it doesn't make that much difference whether he cooperates with the police or not. Scott cooperated, was guilty, and was convicted. Condit cooperated, was not guilty, was never named a suspect, had an alibi, and he's still a free man. Jason has not cooperated, has been named the slayer, is still a suspect 2 years+ after the murder, and will probably be convicted.

Good point. It's all about GUILT.

Jester · #28 02-21-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsey

And now back to Michelle Young case ....

I wonder if Meredith has moved either of her two housemates out yet so that she can have a pretty little room ready for Cassidy on Wednesday. Or if Linda is flying down from NY, they might just have to stay at a hotel if both housemates aren't moved out yet. IIRC, it's only 3 bedrooms in the house.

Do you really think Meredith would do anything to compromise the first stage in the transition of Cassidy to her new home? I doubt it. If anyone will be staying in a hotel or with friends, it will be the roommates, not Meredith.

Jester · #29 02-21-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BSNBREVARDNC

Good point. It's all about GUILT.

Yup, all about guilt ... and very little to do with public opinion - which is always split pro/con. I'm sure that the investigation goes a little smoother if the immediate family of the victim cooperates, but a lack of cooperation doesn't completely rerail an investigation.

Stellagant · #30 02-21-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I guess when the husband is guilty, it doesn't make that much difference whether he cooperates with the police or not. Scott cooperated, was guilty, and was convicted. Condit cooperated, was not guilty, was never named a suspect, had an alibi, and he's still a free man. Jason has not cooperated, has been named the slayer, is still a suspect 2 years+ after the murder, and will probably be convicted.

fyi: Jason hasn't been arrested.

awareness · #31 02-21-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stellagant

fyi: Jason hasn't been arrested.

I'd think Jester is aware of that. Jester's post didn't say Jason had been arrested. It was clearly their opinion they think Jason will be convicted in the future. The rest of the facts (not cooperated, named having slayed Michelle & Rylan, still a suspect 2+ years later) are true.

JMO/IMO

Jester · #32 02-21-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by awareness

I'd think Jester is aware of that. Jester's post didn't say Jason had been arrested. It was clearly their opinion they think Jason will be convicted in the future. The rest of the facts (not cooperated, named having slayed Michelle & Rylan, still a suspect 2+ years later) are true.

JMO/IMO

Thanks. It is my opinion that Jason will eventually be arrested and convicted regardless of public opinion and whether he has cooperated with police.

Lindsey · #33 02-21-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Do you really think Meredith would do anything to compromise the first stage in the transition of Cassidy to her new home? I doubt it. If anyone will be staying in a hotel or with friends, it will be the roommates, not Meredith.

No. I was talking about the housemates, not Meredith. Since at least one of the housemates is a long time (school) friend of Meredith's, I'm sure she is tickled pink for Meredith and will do whatever she needs to for Cassidy's visit. Probably the same can be said for the second woman but I don't think they go as far back. Not sure.

IMO

Jester · #34 02-21-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsey

No. I was talking about the housemates, not Meredith. Since at least one of the housemates is a long time (school) friend of Meredith's, I'm sure she is tickled pink for Meredith and will do whatever she needs to for Cassidy's visit. Probably the same can be said for the second woman but I don't think they go as far back. Not sure.

IMO

Sorry, I must have misunderstood. I completely agree. Meredith's roommates/friends will do everything they can to make Cassidy's transition as smooth as possible.

Stellagant · #35 02-22-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by awareness

I'd think Jester is aware of that. Jester's post didn't say Jason had been arrested. It was clearly their opinion they think Jason will be convicted in the future. The rest of the facts (not cooperated, named having slayed Michelle & Rylan, still a suspect 2+ years later) are true.

JMO/IMO

It's not established fact that Jason is now guilty of murder and that is the part I responded to. He was named slayer in civil, not criminal court. Both of you seem to have trouble following the discussion.

Originally Posted by Jester
I guess when the husband is guilty, it doesn't make that much difference whether he cooperates with the police or not. Scott cooperated, was guilty, and was convicted. Condit cooperated, was not guilty, was never named a suspect, had an alibi, and he's still a free man. Jason has not cooperated, has been named the slayer, is still a suspect 2 years+ after the murder, and will probably be convicted.

Stellagant · #36 02-22-2009, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

OT:
It now says an arrest is "imminent"..
Where have I heard that word before?

But,this is good news , and I must confess, I also thought Condit was hiding something...
I followed this case when I first got my computer and I thought I was a super sluether!!
That seems like such a long time ago, now with all these cases.

Chandra, Cherica,Danielle, Samantha, Laci, Bonnie, Nicole, Lori, Rachel, etc.
There was also some news on Rae Carruth I saw the other day,looks like the ex-Carolina Panther gained some weight since he has been eating prison food, and he has had 4 infractions since being incarcerated
I hope this will give the Levy's some closure, they carried themselves with class, grace and dignity while suffering the loss of their daughter.

Chandra.
I will be glad when the word "imminent" is used in the case of Michelle Young and really has meaning this time.

Kat

Just so I am not too off topic, Carruth is in prison in NC..

I'm puzzled how Carruth is connected to Michelle's murder or Chandra's?

Kat4Eagles · #37 02-22-2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Stellagant

I'm puzzled how Carruth is connected to Michelle's murder or Chandra's?

Don't ask me.
I was talking about all the murders since Chandra Levy, and then I remembered this case, the Michelle Young case from North Carolina, and then I thought of Rae Carruth, and
then somehow I got off track.
It won't happen again.

Kat

Kat4Eagles · #38 02-22-2009, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Stellagant

Off track and wayyyyy into left field. Lol

I apologize .
Oh, and the word imminent threw me off too.

Kat

PS..could you give me a chance to edit my posts?

Stellagant · #39 02-22-2009, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lindsey

No. I was talking about the housemates, not Meredith. Since at least one of the housemates is a long time (school) friend of Meredith's, I'm sure she is tickled pink for Meredith and will do whatever she needs to for Cassidy's visit. Probably the same can be said for the second woman but I don't think they go as far back. Not sure.

IMO

Maybe not quite tickled pink if they are paying rent and have to sleep elsewhere.

Stellagant · #40 02-22-2009, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

I apologize .
Oh, and the word imminent threw me off too.

Kat

PS..could you give me a chance to edit my posts?

ah, yes, it's been imminent for over two years now.