Custody resolved in Fisher/Young case.

[Leanne Weich]

Settlement reached;
Wake county has jurisdiction.

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local...sent_order.pdf

[Tacori]

Thank you for starting this thread Leanne.
I was going to put it in Breaking News but didn't know if I should...
Can you even imagine how happy Linda and Meredith are?

Fantastic news!

I wanted to link this as well.

"Under the child custody consent order filed late Friday afternoon, Linda Fisher's daughter, Meredith Fisher, who lives in Wake County, will have primary custody of the child beginning after an initial five-month transition period, which ends at noon on Aug. 1."

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4487661/

[tpw]

I am so pleased for Lynda and Meredith.


How come Jason did not fight tooth and nail for his daughter ?? Too afraid to open his mouth and incriminate himself ?

[Cardinal]

THANK YOU, Leanne. Good work, again!

It seems that the civil justice system has made itself heard in the matter of Cassidy's best interests.

[Tia]

Originally Posted by tpw

I am so pleased for Lynda and Meredith.


How come Jason did not fight tooth and nail for his daughter ?? Too afraid to open his mouth and incriminate himself ?

Because its obvious more than ever, that he is guilty.

I have no words..........yet for how happy I am for the Fisher's.

[Leanne Weich]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

THANK YOU, Leanne. Good work, again!

It seems that the civil justice system has made itself heard in the matter of Cassidy's best interests.

YW Card. I was so happy when I saw this reported, I could have burst into tears. Unfortunately though, I think Cassidy is still in for a world of heart ache. I think the terms of this settlement clearly show who is the centre of Jason's world and it sure doesn't sound like it is his daughter.

Guess all the evidence against the Fishers just did not meet the burden of proof to allow JY to counter the evidence they had against him.

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by Leanne Weich

YW Card. I was so happy when I saw this reported, I could have burst into tears. Unfortunately though, I think Cassidy is still in for a world of heart ache. I think the terms of this settlement clearly show who is the centre of Jason's world and it sure doesn't sound like it is his daughter.

Guess all the evidence against the Fishers just did not meet the burden of proof to allow JY to counter the evidence they had against him.

I'll admit I have a lot of questions right now. The extent of Jason's concessions is very telling, IMO.

But you're right, this is going to be difficult for Cassidy in a lot of ways.

[Tia]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

I'll admit I have a lot of questions right now. The extent of Jason's concessions is very telling, IMO.

But you're right, this is going to be difficult for Cassidy in a lot of ways.

Yes it is. She has her father to thank for that.

He wound up exactly where he would have been had he just divorced Michelle.

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by Tia

Yes it is. She has her father to thank for that.

He wound up exactly where he would have been had he just divorced Michelle.

I still say Jason didn't want a divorce, Tia. I still think he didn't want to lose the life he had.

Which raises all the more questions, for me, about his concessions in the custody matter.

[Leanne Weich]

Kat, i was going to pm you to come and discuss this with us but I see you are currently viewing this thread. What do you think now?

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by Chase Mcroy

This will let him be free to do as he wishes, something isn't right
he gave her up to easy. imo

I think so too, Chase. That's what I meant about it raising a lot of questions for me. Why did Jason concede so early in the procedings?

[jerry50]

Originally Posted by Leanne Weich

YW Card. I was so happy when I saw this reported, I could have burst into tears. Unfortunately though, I think Cassidy is still in for a world of heart ache. I think the terms of this settlement clearly show who is the centre of Jason's world and it sure doesn't sound like it is his daughter.

Guess all the evidence against the Fishers just did not meet the burden of proof to allow JY to counter the evidence they had against him.

Leanne,

Do you think that if he is arrested that the custody settlement would be revisited at all in regards to Cassidy being able to see the rest of the Young's? Or would that be left to Meredith's discretion?

[Tia]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

I still say Jason didn't want a divorce, Tia. I still think he didn't want to lose the life he had.

Which raises all the more questions, for me, about his concessions in the custody matter.

So true. And in a way, he won. He can continue his lifestyle without the day to day demands of a child, and only has to visit every other weekend.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

I still say Jason didn't want a divorce, Tia. I still think he didn't want to lose the life he had.

Which raises all the more questions, for me, about his concessions in the custody matter.

::thud::

Thank you for all the heads up and PM's,
That is quite an extensive custody order that had to be worked out to make everyone happy.

I still see a lot of trauma for C in being removed and having to live in 2 different cities with 2 different family members, it is almost like a divorce custody hearing..

But, I also see that it could mean L E is not close to making an arrest, or the info they shared with LF was not all that much more for her to use, or they would have advised her to wait a little longer, and go for complete custody.

This is a lot to take in, but I have always tried to land here graciously, no matter how things turn out..

I do see there will be no psych eval for Jason and all other conditions to be dropped.

But, yes, again, a good day for the JDI's.

Enjoy!

Kat

[Leanne Weich]

Originally Posted by Chase Mcroy

This will let him be free to do as he wishes, something isn't right
he gave her up to easy. imo

I think the only thing that isn't right is that he put himself in this position by killing his wife. His freedom is Jason's main concern so it was easy for him to give Cassidy up, imo. Had he gone ahead with the suit and not settled, he'd at least have had to be deposed and undergo a psychological evaluation and probably would've given the DA the last piece of the puzzle he needs to arrest him for murder, imo.

[jerry50]

Originally Posted by Chase Mcroy

This will let him be free to do as he wishes, something isn't right
he gave her up to easy. imo

One of the paragraphs stated that each side would not continue with "Discovery" which means that JY will not have to have a pysch exam and will not have to answer any questions about the murder. He is keeping himself out of jail for the time being.
His lawyer probably told him that there would not be a COV and that the judge was going to hold his feet to the fire. Obviously not responding to the WDS did not help him and being named a slayer was going to factor into the custody suit.

[tpw]

Yes, but Cassidy has won too, in small measure. When her father is in jail awaiting trial, she'll be in a loving home where she will be the centre of attention.She will not have to deal with the tension in the home ( and the Young's wondering what they'll do with her i.e. which relative or neighbour will look after her while they support Jason)

[Leanne Weich]

Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

::thud::

Thank you for all the heads up and PM's,
That is quite an extensive custody order that had to be worked out to make everyone happy.

I still see a lot of trauma for C in being removed and having to live in 2 different cities with 2 different family members, it is almost like a divorce custody hearing..

But, I also see that it could mean L E is not close to making an arrest, or the info they shared with LF was not all that much more for her to use, or they would have advised her to wait a little longer, and go for complete custody.

This is a lot to take in, but I have always tried to land here graciously, no matter how things turn out..

I do see there will be no psych eval for Jason and all other conditions to be dropped.

But, yes, again, a good day for the JDI's.

Enjoy!

Kat

With all due respect Kat, LE are not the ones who determine when or what Linda does i.r.o. the custody issue. I think this settlement clearly proves JY did not want to have to attempt to refute Linda's evidence.

Jason is probably safe from a psych eval or deposition as long as he adheres to the Order of the Court, to the letter.

It is not so much a good day for the JDIs but it is, imo, a good day for Cassidy, in the long run.

[BiggerRedDog]

While the future still holds huge issues for Cassidy, she now at least has a structured opportunity to re-bond with her maternal family. I'm especially happy for her, and for Meredith and Linda.
Too bad it has taken more than two years to accomplish, even though it's been squarely within JLY's power to prevent this rift from the get-go. But, better late than never.
Now, for some resolution in the matter of the person or persons responsible for causing all the anguish in the first place: the killer or killers of her mother, Michelle, and unborn baby brother, Rylan.
I hope somewhere, somehow, Michelle and Rylan are comforted by today's event.

[Tia]

Originally Posted by Leanne Weich

With all due respect Kat, LE are not the ones who determine when or what Linda does i.r.o. the custody issue. I think this settlement clearly proves JY did not want to have to attempt to refute Linda's evidence.

Jason is probably safe from a psych eval or deposition as long as he adheres to the Order of the Court, to the letter.

It is not so much a good day for the JDIs but it is, imo, a good day for Cassidy, in the long run.

Its an excellent day for the Fisher's and Cassidy! This isn't a game of the JDI's againts the JII's. Its about a little girl whose mother was murdered by her father (IMO) and an Aunt and Grandmother who have gone to the ends of the earth to keep her safe and keep Michelle's memory alive.

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

::thud::

Thank you for all the heads up and PM's,
That is quite an extensive custody order that had to be worked out to make everyone happy.

I still see a lot of trauma for C in being removed and having to live in 2 different cities with 2 different family members, it is almost like a divorce custody hearing..

But, I also see that it could mean L E is not close to making an arrest, or the info they shared with LF was not all that much more for her to use, or they would have advised her to wait a little longer, and go for complete custody.

This is a lot to take in, but I have always tried to land here graciously, no matter how things turn out..

I do see there will be no psych eval for Jason and all other conditions to be dropped.

But, yes, again, a good day for the JDI's.

Enjoy!

Kat

Hi, Kat. I imagine it took some fortitude to show up tonight. You're right, there's going to be some trauma in this for Cassidy, especially early on.

Kinda makes you wonder why Jason would give in so easily, and create that trauma for her, huh?

[Leanne Weich]

Originally Posted by Chase Mcroy

It is a good day for Cassidy but anyway we ALL look at it she wakes up in the morning and goes to bed every night without her mommy.
Sad very Sad.

The situation is very sad Chase but, one has to look for the good even in the most dire of situations and I genuinely believe that this is a good day for Cassidy. At least now she can grow up with the full knowledge of how much her mom and her maternal family loved/s her.

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by Chase Mcroy

It is a good day for Cassidy but anyway we ALL look at it she wakes up in the morning and goes to bed every night without her mommy.
Sad very Sad.

Amen. But maybe Michelle's spirit is a little easier tonight.

Goodnight, everyone.

[Leanne Weich]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

Amen. But maybe Michelle's spirit is a little easier tonight.

Goodnight, everyone.

Night Card. I'm sure Michelle's spirit is resting easier tonight - in fact, I'd go as far as to say "a lot easier". I'm sure Linda and meredith are resting a whole lot easier tonight, if they're even able to rest at all. This was a huge victory for them although whether they see it as a victory is doubtful, imo.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

Hi, Kat. I imagine it took some fortitude to show up tonight. You're right, there's going to be some trauma in this for Cassidy, especially early on.

Kinda makes you wonder why Jason would give in so easily, and create that trauma for her, huh?

I'm not convinced that this will be traumatic for Cassidy. It sounds like there will be six transitional visits lasting a week each between now and August 1. With a one week visit each month, I think she'll gradually adjust to the change. I have no doubt that Meredith will ensure that she has any assistance she needs to make the change without difficulties. Cassidy also may have some memories of friends and experiences from prior to the murder, so it may be a bit like going home.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by Chase Mcroy

So if you don't mind me asking you this do you still think Jason is innocent? If you were in his shoes would you have fought to the end to keep your child I know I would have. It looks to me like he thinks he may be arrested in the near future and that it would be best to give the child to Michelle's side of the family. I am only asking what you think now.

That is a very fair question, that I can't answer.
I, too, would have fought heaven and earth to keep my child, any parent would.
But , he did not give up custody altogether.
Sometimes the person who loves the child the most is willing to make the most sacrifices for him/her.
I would imagine Jason is very sad tonite.
It will be hard for him to let her go when the time comes.
It will be hard for her to leave him.
She will have 2 lives now, she will make friends in school in Raleigh, and then go back to Brevard for the summers.
She is not a ping pong ball.
The whole thing to me is sad.
At least, that's the way it seems now.

[Jester]

I certainly hope this puts to rest any further suggestions that Meredith is a suspect. Obviously those claims are false and unfounded.

[Hey Paula]

Originally Posted by Leanne Weich

The situation is very sad Chase but, one has to look for the good even in the most dire of situations and I genuinely believe that this is a good day for Cassidy. At least now she can grow up with the full knowledge of how much her mom and her maternal family loved/s her.

Hi Leanne and Everyone!

This is a great day for Cassidy! And for Linda and Meredith too! They will finally be reunited and Cassidy will no longer be separated from her maternal grandmother and aunt. Linda and Meredith will keep Michelle alive in Cassidy's heart, and she will know how much she was loved by her Mom, and how much she is loved by Grandma Linda and Aunt Meredith.

[Leanne Weich]

Originally Posted by Jester

I'm not convinced that this will be traumatic for Cassidy. It sounds like there will be six transitional visits lasting a week each between now and August 1. With a one week visit each month, I think she'll gradually adjust to the change. I have no doubt that Meredith will ensure that she has any assistance she needs to make the change without difficulties. Cassidy also may have some memories of friends and experiences from prior to the murder, so it may be a bit like going home.

I'm more worried about the trauma Cassidy will feel when she is old enough to realise, whether her father is ever arrested or not, that he didn't bother to defend the WDS or fight to keep custody of her.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

That is a very fair question, that I can't answer.
I, too, would have fought heaven and earth to keep my child, any parent would.
But , he did not give up custody altogether.
Sometimes the person who loves the child the most is willing to make the most sacrifices for him/her.
I would imagine Jason is very sad tonite.
It will be hard for him to let her go when the time comes.
It will be hard for her to leave him.
She will have 2 lives now, she will make friends in school in Raleigh, and then go back to Brevard for the summers.
She is not a ping pong ball.
The whole thing to me is sad.
At least, that's the way it seems now.

Thankfully, she will finally have a stable home, and will no longer be bouncing between Jason's relatives. That in itself will be a very positive change.

[Tia]

Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

That is a very fair question, that I can't answer.
I, too, would have fought heaven and earth to keep my child, any parent would.
But , he did not give up custody altogether.
Sometimes the person who loves the child the most is willing to make the most sacrifices for him/her.
I would imagine Jason is very sad tonite.
It will be hard for him to let her go when the time comes.
It will be hard for her to leave him.
She will have 2 lives now, she will make friends in school in Raleigh, and then go back to Brevard for the summers.
She is not a ping pong ball.
The whole thing to me is sad.
At least, that's the way it seems now.

Its more than making sacrifices. He is her father. If he did not kill Michelle, he would have fought for Cassidy and won.

This is a huge deal Kat. Meredith gaining PRIMARY custody of Cassidy is very, very telling.

Jason doesn't care enough to fight for her, only to cover his own butt.

That is what this boils down to.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Leanne Weich

I'm more worried about the trauma Cassidy will feel when she is old enough to realise, whether her father is ever arrested or not, that he didn't bother to defend the WDS or fight to keep custody of her.

I have faith in Meredith and Linda being able to present that information to her in a non-judgmental way. I suspect that Cassidy will understand something along the lines of Jason being unable to establish independent living, unable to hold a job, and having difficulties in his life. I think that's as non-judgmental as it can be, and avoids placing blame on Jason for not even trying to retain custody or respond to the WDS.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

Hi, Kat. I imagine it took some fortitude to show up tonight. You're right, there's going to be some trauma in this for Cassidy, especially early on.

Kinda makes you wonder why Jason would give in so easily, and create that trauma for her, huh?

No, part of being on a Message Board with other people makes it only right to show up..
I wouldn't think of bailing now, thanks, though!!
I just printed a copy of the order, when you see things like the transitions will take place at common locations like Cracker Barrel, Dunkin Donuts or Chick~Fil~A , these are familiar places to all of us.
It just makes it all seem so surreal.

Kat

[Tia]

Originally Posted by Leanne Weich

I'm more worried about the trauma Cassidy will feel when she is old enough to realise, whether her father is ever arrested or not, that he didn't bother to defend the WDS or fight to keep custody of her.

The Fisher's are going to have a really tough job ahead. How do you explain that your daddy gave you up?

[Hey Paula]

Originally Posted by Leanne Weich

I'm more worried about the trauma Cassidy will feel when she is old enough to realise, whether her father is ever arrested or not, that he didn't bother to defend the WDS or fight to keep custody of her.

I'm concerned about that too! But I can't say I'm surprised JY would rather cower and hide to protect himself than fight for Cassidy, after allowing himself to be declared the slayer of her beloved mother and unborn brother. Sadly, I expected this outcome.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by Jester

I certainly hope this puts to rest any further suggestions that Meredith is a suspect. Obviously those claims are false and unfounded.

I was waiting for this one!!

Page 2 of 8 of the custody agreement
Conclusion of Law

3)That parties are fit and proper to be the custodial roles herein.

That means both of them, that means they agreed the slayer is proper and fit.!
Kat

[Leanne Weich]

Originally Posted by Jester

I have faith in Meredith and Linda being able to present that information to her in a non-judgmental way. I suspect that Cassidy will understand something along the lines of Jason being unable to establish independent living, unable to hold a job, and having difficulties in his life. I think that's as non-judgmental as it can be, and avoids placing blame on Jason for not even trying to retain custody or respond to the WDS.

I have that faith too but, at the end of the day, when Cassidy is old enough, my bet is she will look into all aspects of her mom's death for herself. It will be only natural to feel hurt and abandoned by her father's inactions, imo.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by Tia

The Fisher's are going to have a really tough job ahead. How do you explain that your daddy gave you up?

Daddy agreed to share her, not give her up.

Kat

[alterEgo©]

Originally Posted by Tia

Its more than making sacrifices. He is her father. If he did not kill Michelle, he would have fought for Cassidy and won.

This is a huge deal Kat. Meredith gaining PRIMARY custody of Cassidy is very, very telling.

Jason doesn't care enough to fight for her, only to cover his own butt.

That is what this boils down to.

Perhaps, so.

Kudos to you for calling this one as a settlement reached as the reason for the postponement.

[alterEgo©]

Originally Posted by Tia

The Fisher's are going to have a really tough job ahead. How do you explain that your daddy gave you up?

He didn't give her up! It's a joint custody agreement.