Michelle Fisher Young murder: Dec. 5/08 >>

[BiggerRedDog]

Will there be new info to discuss today? Let's hope so.

It's time for justice for Michelle Fisher Young and her unborn son Rylan.

[5swab5]

Originally Posted by BiggerRedDog

Will there be new info to discuss today? Let's hope so.

It's time for justice for Michelle Fisher Young and her unborn son Rylan.

Thanks BRD!

Ya know, for the longest time, I thought that this SW might be a big deal. Upon reflection, I think we will have many more SWs in our future.
(fast forward)

Good-Night Jason...Good-Night Bubba.

MOO
Swabby

[Leanne Weich]

Originally Posted by 5swab5

Thanks BRD!

Ya know, for the longest time, I thought that this SW might be a big deal. Upon reflection, I think we will have many more SWs in our future.
(fast forward)

Good-Night Jason...Good-Night Bubba.

MOO
Swabby

Hey Swabby.

I'm fearful you're right about many more SWs. As for the one to be released today, I sincerely hope there is something interesting to discuss. Maybe it has the same PC as the last two and was only sealed to protect all that has now come out. I hope not - we surely need to hear something different. JY knows what ot's all about no doubt - not so sure he's having a "good-night".

[5swab5]

Originally Posted by Leanne Weich

Hey Swabby.

I'm fearful you're right about many more SWs. As for the one to be released today, I sincerely hope there is something interesting to discuss. Maybe it has the same PC as the last two and was only sealed to protect all that has now come out. I hope not - we surely need to hear something different. JY knows what ot's all about no doubt - not so sure he's having a "good-night".

Isn't it GREAT that they can use the exact same PC over and over again and yet get multiple SWs? Never let the enemy know what you are thinking.

No telling what all else is out there, (maybe on someone's desk ...as I type)

MOO

[BiggerRedDog]

Originally Posted by 5swab5

Isn't it GREAT that they can use the exact same PC over and over again and yet get multiple SWs? Never let the enemy know what you are thinking.
No telling what all else is out there, (maybe on someone's desk ...as I type)
MOO

I hope it's not on my desk. They'd never find it! Seriously, I hope what's out there is coming in there. I have faith that it is. Better to have a case that sticks, than one that falls apart. This surely has to be why this is taking so long.

[JHP]

Originally Posted by onederwomyn

Wow..it's quiet around here this morning.

Maybe the quiet before the storm

[Lindsey]

Investigators thought Michelle Young's daughter was medicated


Posted: 21 minutes ago

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4081439/

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by Lindsey

Investigators thought Michelle Young's daughter was medicated


Posted: 21 minutes ago

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4081439/

I was right for a change, it was about C !!

Thank you, Lin...for scooping this once again!!

Kat

[Lindsey]

Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

I was right for a change, it was about C !!

Thank you, Lin...for scooping this once again!!

Kat

I don't get it tho. They thought the medicine would still show up in her 8 months later??? Why did they wait so long to test her? Sheesh!

Notice the date says July 25, 2007 - not July 5, 2007. Is this the one and only sealed SW?

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by Lindsey

I don't get it tho. They thought the medicine would still show up in her 8 months later??? Why did they wait so long to test her? Sheesh!

Notice the date says July 25, 2007 - not July 5, 2007. Is this the one and only sealed SW?

Yeah, but you can counteract that by how lively and chatty C was on the 911 call ,she didn't sound drugged to me.

I am still ing.

Nice work, girl!!!


Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Lots of new stuff, but, RS is still Jason's att'y.

The keys on the counter!!

C may have left the home!!

And, her feet, which we had discussed, were clean..

Wow.

Kat

[Lindsey]

Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

Lots of new stuff, but, RS is still Jason's att'y.

The keys on the counter!!

C may have left the home!!

And, her feet, which we had discussed, were clean..

Wow.

Kat

Hey they added the stuff about Michelle's car and keys and CY's feet etc. after I read the original article!

Posted: 35 minutes ago
Updated: 8 minutes ago

It's very possible the light colored SUV seen at the home that morning was Michelle's car, right?


I want to see all the search warrants to read for myself.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by confused

So the theory the paper delivery man may have been seeing someone load the child in her mothers car may be the right theory.

And, the car was Michelle's, maybe?



Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by Lindsey

Investigators thought Michelle Young's daughter was medicated


Posted: 21 minutes ago

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4081439/

AE was right last nite, she said we would have more questions than answers when this was released.

So many things are even more unclear.

It says that C was found under the sheets in Michelle's bed, and yet

she doesn't sound like she just woke up, and why would she ask for a

washcloth if she were still in bed?

This 911 call makes even less sense now.

What about Michelle's car keys?

I don't understand, who would take C from the home, then bring her

back, and where did they take her, if they did, and would Jason have time?

Someone here posted the possibility that C was removed from the home long ago.

Is the actual s/w online yet?



Kat

[Lindsey]

Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

AE was right last nite, she said we would have more questions than answers when this was released.

So many things are even more unclear.

It says that C was found under the sheets in Michelle's bed, and yet

she doesn't sound like she just woke up, and why would she ask for a

washcloth if she were still in bed?

This 911 call makes even less sense now.

What about Michelle's car keys?

I don't understand, who would take C from the home, then bring her

back, and where did they take her, if they did, and would Jason have time?

Someone here posted the possibility that C was removed from the home long ago.

Is the actual s/w online yet?



Kat

Yes, on the same page with the story. I haven't read them yet.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4081439/
Look under Documents

July 25, 2007, search warrant for Cassidy Young DNA
July 25, 2007, search warrant for Michelle Young's SUV
July 5, 2007, search warrant for Jason Young cell phone records

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by Lindsey

Yes, on the same page with the story. I haven't read them yet.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4081439/
Look under Documents

July 25, 2007, search warrant for Cassidy Young DNA
July 25, 2007, search warrant for Michelle Young's SUV
July 5, 2007, search warrant for Jason Young cell phone records

Okay, thanks.

I am off to read too, but this is beyond ridiculous now.

All this time, I have been wondering why the Fishers allowed C to stay with Jason, and did NOTHING, and now we hear this?


Kat

[cog1]

Confused, I can't get the first one to open up. The one with C walking around. Do you have another link?

TIA

[Barbara2]

If Meredith's actions and statements are so suspicious, where are the search warrants focusing on her? So far we're only seeing warrants (including these just unsealed) that focus on Jason.

[cog1]

Originally Posted by Barbara2

If Meredith's actions and statements are so suspicious, where are the search warrants focusing on her? So far we're only seeing warrants (including these just unsealed) that focus on Jason.

Hi Barbara2, I agree. The one search warrant with C on J's side of the bed does not specify whether C was IN the bed or OUT of the bed. So she could have been IN the bed under the sheets on J's side. What do you think?

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by Barbara2

If Meredith's actions and statements are so suspicious, where are the search warrants focusing on her? So far we're only seeing warrants (including these just unsealed) that focus on Jason.

Then why no indictment or arrest?

These are old warrants with only the new one for a Yahoo account.

Emails that could be between other people, not just Jason.

We have no idea what else there is...or who it pertains to.

And , I see a lot of things were posted wrong here now.

Kat

[Barbara2]

Originally Posted by confused

Exactly and we aren't seeing any arrest either. LE has spent hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars trying to make JY the killer. Why don't they now turn their attention another direction? Why are they so intent on him being the killer? I believe it was because of stories they were told from the minute they arrived at the home.

I believe it's because of evidence collected, some that has been made public and some that has not, that implicates Jason as the killer. He hasn't been arrested yet but that doesn't mean he won't be. IMO

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by onederwomyn

And this is what it goes back to for me. JY has NEVER inquired as to how the investigation is going or tried to help in ANY WAY. What a loving husband. He cares more about not being questioned than he does about justice (for those who assume he is innocent).

Not true,

The Young family hired therir own investigator.

Hope this helps.

Kat

Originally Posted by onederwomyn

And this is what it goes back to for me. JY has NEVER inquired as to how the investigation is going or tried to help in ANY WAY. What a loving husband. He cares more about not being questioned than he does about justice (for those who assume he is innocent).

Everything you say will be used against you. Everything.

You mean cooperating like the loving husband Brad Cooper did? Or Jeffrey MacDonald did?

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by confused

In one search warrant it said she was found walking inside the home. One said on her fathers side of the bed, now this one saids under the sheets on her fathers side of the bed. I am now wondering if MF took her in the house with her and that is why she can't keep the stories straight as to were the child was?


walking around:
http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local...6/warrant1.swf

father's side of the bed:

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local...6190923866.pdf


under the sheet and clean:

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local...yYoung_DNA.pdf

Something is very wrong, Confused.

Why would Jason drug his own daughter?

It would make more sense that C woke up sometime that nite/am, and the killer(s) went into her room, looked around for something to quiet her, and found the cold medicines..

Don't forget the Lion King and jelly beans posts either.

If true, who would give a child candy in the middle of the nite, not a parent!!

This is getting weirder.


Kat

[TheRed]

If her daddy just murdered her mommy, he probably would've given her anything she asked for, even jelly beans and Lion King video.

of course, JMO.

C'mon, use some logic here! Is it really that hard to understand?

[JHP]

Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

Something is very wrong, Confused.

Why would Jason drug his own daughter?

It would make more sense that C woke up sometime that nite/am, and the killer(s) went into her room, looked around for something to quiet her, and found the cold medicines..

Don't forget the Lion King and jelly beans posts either.

If true, who would give a child candy in the middle of the nite, not a parent!!

This is getting weirder.


Kat

Kat, If Jason is the one who killed Michelle he would have no problem with drugging Cassidy.

The Lion King and jelly beans was put out as a riddle for the posters to solve. It points to Meredith. IIRC just the facts was the poster that did that. It has nothing to do with eating candy.

JMO

Originally Posted by onederwomyn

I don't know. Unless I read her statement verbatim, a lot of what is said in SWs is an interpretation of what the officers heard or interpretation of what they read. She could have at one time said, "I knew she has walked around in the house because of the bloody footprints in the bathroom"...which doesn't mean that she found her walking around. It just means that she had assumed she did at one point and said it out loud or wrote it in her statement, etc.

Remember, the SW wording is that of LE, NOT Meredith.

The last two links you provided don't contradict one another.

Then that means the affiant lied on the probable cause of that search warrant by stating that Meredith discovered the child walking around when she entered the residence.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by alter ego

Then that means the affiant lied on the probable cause of that search warrant by stating that Meredith discovered the child walking around when she entered the residence.

No matter how many times I listen to the 911 call, I always pick up something new.

She says, " I never come here during the day" which means what?

She only visits Michelle at nite.

She says.......
"There is blood all over the bed"
The bed /sheets are covered with blood, so how come C has none on her?

Kat

Originally Posted by onederwomyn

I think lied is a pretty heavy word to use. I don't think the miswording was intentional.

Miswording?

It's either what Meredith told the affiant or it isn't.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4081439/

Thank you Judge Stephens!

Sami