Michelle Young - Dec. 1 thru 4

annalyzer · #1 12-01-2008, 08:44 AM

I was hoping there was news before I left for work. Can you tell I'm anxious?

Wyn · #2 12-01-2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

I don't know whether we should get our hopes up then.

I still think a lot of the stuff in the last s/w was to make people angry at Jason..

But, they need to concentrate on proving whatever they have they makes him a murderer.

Kat

"I still think a lot of the stuff in the last s/w was to make people angry at Jason.."

Seriously, do you think that when LE wrote up the search warrant their goal was to just put in "stuff" to make people angry? Maybe LE is different in your state but I don't think our local LE really cares what people think.

When the search warrant is unsealed it should be on the wral.com website at some point today.

Leanne Weich · #3 12-01-2008, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

So much information has finally been made public, doesn't it seem that LE could maybe hold a press conference and say where they are in this investigation ? Or maybe give the smallest bit of an idea of what's going on, or what the hold up is ? Now that the SW returned and is going to be unsealed, why not let that community in on their progress ?

I wrote to Amanda Lamb and asked her if she couldn't try to find out more than the standard they are making progress report from LE and/or the DA.

Barbara2 · #4 12-01-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by confused

If you think a news reporter knows more than they are printing then you are living in a fantasy world.

I have personal experience with a reporter knowing more but only printing what I authorized. I asked to keep other info off the record and the reporter did not disappoint me. They don't want to burn bridges for future stories so no, it's not a fantasy world to accept that reporters don't print everything that they know. IMO

JHP · #5 12-01-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bud Wiser

Motion was filed to extend the sealed warrant until 12-19-08

Thats an interesting time. Only 18 days, hmmm maybe something is finally going to happen.

We can hope.

JMO

JHP · #6 12-01-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by confused

What would a SW that LE as had for 17 months have to do with an arrest now?

I guess we will just have to see. Why do you think they would request just an extra 18 days? Cause they were bored?

Kat4Eagles · #7 12-01-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Leanne Weich

I doubt things are put in SWs to make people angry. People were angry enough at Jason's blatant disinterest in the murder of his wife and unborn child and the affair with MM (which many denied happened).

LE wouldn't be executing SWs if they were not intent on proving he murdered Michelle, imo.

I think the SW to be unsealed tomorrow is either for MM's or KY's computer. Not to see what was said between them and JY but correspondence between either one of them and 3rd parties.

Why was it necessary then, to include a search for transgender bars, what does that have to do with the case?

Kat

Kat4Eagles · #8 12-01-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by annalyzer

I was hoping there was news before I left for work. Can you tell I'm anxious?

Yep, me too.

I just got all my work out of the way so I can read the new s/w..

Kat

Kat4Eagles · #9 12-01-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyn

"I still think a lot of the stuff in the last s/w was to make people angry at Jason.."

Seriously, do you think that when LE wrote up the search warrant their goal was to just put in "stuff" to make people angry? Maybe LE is different in your state but I don't think our local LE really cares what people think.

When the search warrant is unsealed it should be on the wral.com website at some point today.

Yep, I do.

There was no reason at that time to go into some of the stuff the last s/w revealed.

That stuff should have been saved.

No, this was more like we are mad and,
"We can't get you, but here, try and defend yourself on all this."

It could have also been a way to get SM to confront Jason.., can you imagine if both MM and Jason had told SM that all communications between them had stopped after MY's death, and then this was released?

How about the part where MM wants a baby with him?

You think that went over well in the Money household?

Do we have a link yet for the s/w?

Tia.

Kat

Kat4Eagles · #10 12-01-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

So much information has finally been made public, doesn't it seem that LE could maybe hold a press conference and say where they are in this investigation ? Or maybe give the smallest bit of an idea of what's going on, or what the hold up is ? Now that the SW returned and is going to be unsealed, why not let that community in on their progress ?

I agree with you ,I mentioned that before.

That is why when I see comments about this being a big case in the media, it just hasn't happened, and it is not going to be.

People Magazine did a story in Jan, 2007, they never followed up.

None of the talk shows have discussed the case , if there is an arrest, then maybe , but no one is going to air this case as their prime story.

Look at the Cooper case, there has already been an arrest, and there is nothing in the news about it at all.

Kat

Kat4Eagles · #11 12-01-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by confused

Did the judge approve it?

Where there is a link saying this has been postponed?

And, why the 19th of Dec? That is a Friday.

I know I asked last nite if it could be extended, and apparently , it was.

So, now you have to ask why...

If it was something just about a computer, I can't see them doing that, as they already released other computer info and emails.

I think it is to protect someone.

JMO

Kat

Kat4Eagles · #12 12-01-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by confused

If you think a news reporter knows more than they are printing then you are living in a fantasy world.

True...any media source wants to be the one to break the story and get their "exclusive".

Kat

Kat4Eagles · #13 12-01-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TIAZ

ITA. The latest warrant only reinforced what most of us already knew. Its rediculous to think LE put info out there to "make people angry at Jason".

This is a murder investigation, not a popularity contest.

I disagree, at this point, if the investigation has stalled and L E is frustrated, I would think they would say anything to get to Jason.

Maybe even hope he would come foward to defend himself on some of the things released.

When things are taken out of seguence or context, it may have looked worse than it really was.

Who knows?

Kat

ETA........ I am disappointed, anyone else?
Is there an official link yet?

Wyn · #14 12-01-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

Yep, I do.

There was no reason at that time to go into some of the stuff the last s/w revealed.

That stuff should have been saved.

No, this was more like we are mad and,
"We can't get you, but here, try and defend yourself on all this."

It could have also been a way to get SM to confront Jason.., can you imagine if both MM and Jason had told SM that all communications between them had stopped after MY's death, and then this was released?

How about the part where MM wants a baby with him?

You think that went over well in the Money household?

Do we have a link yet for the s/w?

Tia.

Kat

Maybe LE had a reason and they just haven't shared it? There is a LOT of stuff we don't know. And I guess you and I have vast differences about the search warrant.

You're worried that the Moneys are embarrassed. Jason looks bad. Steve Money may find out the entire truth about his wife? Not me, I couldn't care less. LE can put anything they want in a search warrant as far as I'm concerned as long as it results in one thing.........

Justice for Michelle and Rylan.

That's all that matters. Not that poor Jason is embarrassed because he was searching gay bars, not that Michelle Money showed what a horrible, hypocritical friend of Michelle's she was, not that Steve Money is going to find out exactly what type of person he's married to. I doubt Steve Money is going to travel to Brevard at this late date to confront Jason. What he should do is kick his wife to the curb. I doubt Jason could be found anyway, he'd probably just take another vacation.

annalyzer · #15 12-01-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bud Wiser

Motion was filed to extend the sealed warrant until 12-19-08

Oh shoot. Home from work and was hoping for some good news or at least something new to discuss.

annalyzer · #16 12-01-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

I agree with you ,I mentioned that before.

That is why when I see comments about this being a big case in the media, it just hasn't happened, and it is not going to be.

People Magazine did a story in Jan, 2007, they never followed up.

None of the talk shows have discussed the case , if there is an arrest, then maybe , but no one is going to air this case as their prime story.

Look at the Cooper case, there has already been an arrest, and there is nothing in the news about it at all.

Kat

They go for sensationalism, what the public wants to see. Men killing their wives is an everyday thing now. SP had the good looks, the added attraction of the pretty girlfriend testifying against him. That kept that case in the media spotlight.

annalyzer · #17 12-01-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bud Wiser

There was a motion filed....have not heard the judge's decision.
He may decline and we will see it later today.

Oh okay, thanks.

Kat4Eagles · #18 12-01-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by annalyzer

They go for sensationalism, what the public wants to see. Men killing their wives is an everyday thing now. SP had the good looks, the added attraction of the pretty girlfriend testifying against him. That kept that case in the media spotlight.

I agree.

I mean, think about it, who decides which case is more important than another, or whose life was more valuable, or who was more loved, or missed..

The Cooper case is hardly getting any attention, it does not seem fair.

Kat

Kat4Eagles · #19 12-01-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tizzer

Sad, but true. Scottie was always yammering too. JY was smart to keep quiet and get out of town. It's bought him two years.JMO.

And, Laci was pregnant and missing ,and the case was all over the news and internet, you could not get away from it.

Kat

annalyzer · #20 12-01-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

I agree.

I mean, think about it, who decides which case is more important than another, or whose life was more valuable, or who was more loved, or missed..

The Cooper case is hardly getting any attention, it does not seem fair.

Kat

Ultimately the public decides because we are the ones who are tuning in to see certain things in the media.

Kat4Eagles · #21 12-01-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TIAZ

I know that, but some posters here don't see it that way. They see it as poor Jason, all of his personal business is out there and LE put it out there just to make people angry at him.

There is a simple solution then, arrest him.

Kat

Kat4Eagles · #22 12-01-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by annalyzer

Ultimately the public decides because we are the ones who are tuning in to see certain things in the media.

I agree completely, the case here has slowed down even since the last s/w was released.

Kat

Kat4Eagles · #23 12-01-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

According to the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Report for 2007, “The incidents of murder, in which the relationship of the victim to the offender was known, showed that 22.2 percent of victims were killed by family members and 53.7 percent were slain by acquaintances (neighbors, friends, boyfriends, etc.).”

The report categorized the remaining 24.1 percent as stranger killings.

In a chilling statistic for women, the report noted, “Among female victims, [in cases when] their relationships with their offenders were known, 32.9 percent were murdered by their husbands or boyfriends.”

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/3748426/

N C Wanted still has the wrong date of Michelle's murder in posting their People Magazine article dated Jan 2006.

Michelle was still alive in 2006, and that feature does not appear until 2007.

Kat

#24 12-01-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by confused

Well sorry I'm not an attorney , I sell insurance.

Leanne Weich · #25 12-01-2008, 06:27 PM

I got a reply from Amanda Lamb to the effect that there are no sealed SWs. I replied and gave her the info. relating to the July SW and she again replied with a sorry, I am not aware of that. No wonder WRAL doesn't report much on this if she doesn't keep up with what is happening, imo.

Leanne Weich · #26 12-01-2008, 06:30 PM

I just got another reply from Amanda that says "Cynthia Bobbit says nothing is sealed in the case to her knowledge." This is just getting weirder and weirder, imo.

Kat4Eagles · #27 12-01-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Leanne Weich

I got a reply from Amanda Lamb to the effect that there are no sealed SWs. I replied and gave her the info. relating to the July SW and she again replied with a sorry, I am not aware of that. No wonder WRAL doesn't report much on this if she doesn't keep up with what is happening, imo.

You are kidding, right?
This is strange , but thank you for taking the time to do that!!

Hmmm...

I was waiting for an official link earlier.

Kat

Kat4Eagles · #28 12-01-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Leanne Weich

I just got another reply from Amanda that says "Cynthia Bobbit says nothing is sealed in the case to her knowledge." This is just getting weirder and weirder, imo.

There is a warrant that was signed 6/05 of this year with an extension of 180 days that was granted to keep it sealed

Again, thank you, Leanne.

Kat

Kat4Eagles · #29 12-01-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by confused

maybe it was unsealed today. Maybe wral isn't going to carry it.

I am confused as you are, Confused!!

Kat

Kat4Eagles · #30 12-01-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by confused

Hi Kat, It was issued 07-05-07 if I am remembering correctly.

It was , and on June 5th, 2008, 11 months later, it was granted an extension of 180 days which could mean Dec. 5th, this Friday.

But, it has been posted it was extended until 12-19, where is this info coming from?

There was no link..

Kat

ETA:

No info at WRAL or the News Observer..

?????????????????

Leanne Weich · #31 12-01-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by confused

Bud Wiser post this morning that a motion had been made to keep it sealed till 12/19/08. There has been no follow up on it. Now Bobbit is saying there isn't any sealed warrants. That tells me it was unsealed today.

God, I'm so confused now that I'm not even going to bother Amanda again. She probably thinks I'm some kind of nut.

Kat4Eagles · #32 12-01-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by confused

<snipped> There has been no follow up on it. Now Bobbit is saying there isn't any sealed warrants. That tells me it was unsealed today.

Then either the warrant did not get an extension and has been released, and something is going to break...

But, then why has the contents not been posted?

Or the warrant is being held until an arrest is made?

Maybe something is happening right now, for all we know.

Kat

Kat4Eagles · #33 12-01-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Leanne Weich

God, I'm so confused now that I'm not even going to bother Amanda again. She probably thinks I'm some kind of nut.

Not at all, I think there is some confusion though about what is going on.

Is it possible that L E declined the additional extension, and is ready to indict?

Kat

Leanne Weich · #34 12-01-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

Then either the warrant did not get an extension and has been released, and something is going to break...

But, then why has the contents not been posted?

Or the warrant is being held until an arrest is made?

Maybe something is happening right now, for all we know.

Kat

I hope you're right that something might be happening now. Hopefully, if the extension wasn't granted, my emails to AL might light a fire under her to investigate that elusive SW. When is the next GJ? Does anyone know?

#35 12-01-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

Not at all, I think there is some confusion though about what is going on.

Is it possible that L E declined the additional extension, and is ready to indict?

Kat

It would have been the DA asking for the seal to be extended.

annalyzer · #36 12-01-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

Not at all, I think there is some confusion though about what is going on.

Is it possible that L E declined the additional extension, and is ready to indict?

Kat

Oh please please please.

Leanne Weich · #37 12-01-2008, 07:37 PM

I capitulated and again wrote to AL setting out all we know about the SW and have asked her to please try to get to the bottom of it so we know if what we think we know is true or rumour. She is pretty speedy at replying so I'll update if and when I get a response. I still think she must think I'm a nut with all these questions from Australia but still, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Leanne Weich · #38 12-01-2008, 07:39 PM

Here we go:

"I'll check on both.

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From: Leanne Weich
To: Lamb, Amanda
Sent: Mon Dec 01 18:32:40 2008
Subject: Re: WRAL.com Feedback - Michelle Young

Amanda

Going back over notes I've kept, this is what I have found:

search warrant issued on 07/05/07 and not returned to Court until 06/05/08 when a request was made for it to be sealed. This was granted for 180 days. Then, apparently another request for same SW to be sealed for 18 days which would take us to 12/19/08. I'm not sure when the last request was made, nor whether it was granted. It is difficult to keep up with this case from Australia and I am relying on Raleigh residents for a lot of the information I get.

Do you know if a response to the wrongful death suit was filed? It was due today."

#39 12-01-2008, 07:43 PM

Thanks Leanne

And not to worry, there are plenty here that will vouch that you are not a nut.

Cardinal · #40 12-01-2008, 07:55 PM

No news on either the SW or the WDS?

ETA: I guess the media doesn't realize we're all anxiously awaiting.

Thanks, Leanne, for your efforts today.