In Session Message Boards  

Go Back   In Session Message Boards > O.J. Simpson

 
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-16-2008, 11:03 AM
MarcyM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Will OJ lose his NFL Pension for being a convicted felon?

I've searched many forums to find out if OJ will lose his pension due to the conviction of a felony. Does anyone know?
  #2  
Old 11-16-2008, 12:10 PM
Kara
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcyM View Post
I've searched many forums to find out if OJ will lose his pension due to the conviction of a felony. Does anyone know?
I don't believe he will. If he were receiving social security that would end with incarceration, but his pension should continue.

moo
  #3  
Old 12-05-2008, 11:13 PM
ALL RISE ALL RISE is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 283
Can?

the State of Nevada 'insist' he pay for his incarceration to reimburse the State?
__________________
Only IMHO
  #4  
Old 12-05-2008, 11:19 PM
warhorse46 warhorse46 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
Posts: 14,403
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcyM View Post
I've searched many forums to find out if OJ will lose his pension due to the conviction of a felony. Does anyone know?


Yes he will still receive his NFL pension while he is incarcerated. That is a private pension fund & cannot be withheld. He most likely will or already has appointed an executor to oversee the pension.
__________________
above post is MOO,unless otherwise stated.
  #5  
Old 12-06-2008, 12:14 AM
Cornblossom Cornblossom is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: between here * and there -->
Posts: 10,586
He will also need money for the commisary...he can buy a TV,cookies,noodles,etc (I saw this on MSNBC prison show). He probably gave yale power of attorney to oversee his kids education fees.
__________________
"Give to every human being every right that you claim for yourself. ~Robert Ingersoll"
  #6  
Old 12-06-2008, 01:29 PM
?noanswer ?noanswer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,883
Quote:
Originally Posted by warhorse46 View Post
Yes he will still receive his NFL pension while he is incarcerated. That is a private pension fund & cannot be withheld. He most likely will or already has appointed an executor to oversee the pension.
Since he won't be living in Fl for a while, can the Goldman's get that pension. JMO
  #7  
Old 12-06-2008, 02:04 PM
gnm109 gnm109 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: California
Posts: 285
Quote:
Originally Posted by ?noanswer View Post
Since he won't be living in Fl for a while, can the Goldman's get that pension. JMO
No. Pensions are generally exempt from attachment. If they weren't Goldman would have gotten it long ago. Likewise, Florida has a grandfather clause for people who owned their homes before the law was recently changed so that there is an unlimited homestead exemptiion for previously owned homes such as OJ's.
__________________
gnm109
  #8  
Old 12-06-2008, 02:12 PM
?noanswer ?noanswer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,883
Quote:
Originally Posted by gnm109 View Post
No. Pensions are generally exempt from attachment. If they weren't Goldman would have gotten it long ago. Likewise, Florida has a grandfather clause for people who owned their homes before the law was recently changed so that there is an unlimited homestead exemptiion for previously owned homes such as OJ's.
Oh shoot, I was hoping they could. Thanks Anyway. JMO
  #9  
Old 12-06-2008, 05:04 PM
AnnInOhio AnnInOhio is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: O-H let me hear an -I-O
Posts: 2,376
The Goldman's may not be able to attach OJ's pension money, but it seems his fellow inmates are probably going to take a pretty good chunk of it - one candy bar and pack of cigarettes at at time!
__________________
All comments by AnnInOhio are "IMO"
  #10  
Old 12-06-2008, 11:08 PM
gnm109 gnm109 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: California
Posts: 285
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enigmatic View Post
Pensions and retirement accounts are exempt only to the extent that they are necessary for the support of the pensioner. I mentioned elsewhere that if the CA Superior Court were to determine that this sentence is an effective life sentence then the the pension would be deemed non-exempt. I think fundamentally the same analysis would also apply to the FLA townhouse, since homestead exemptions only apply to preserve an interest in residences.

Caveat: Hybrid of educated guess and opinion.
To the extent that the retirement is a defined benefit, that is a monthly amount paid from a group fund as a benefit for work and longevity in a certain trade, I think it would be exempt from judgment. In fact it has been exempt from judgment for the years since the Civil trial.

As to the Florida house, it's very likely also exempt under the older Florida Homestead law in effect when he bought it.

I'm aware that government pensions and Social Security may be terminated when a person is incarcerated but I've never heard of a special class for people who may have an effective life sentence.

In any case, the Goldmans would have seized and sold the property long ago if they could have. I'm sure that they have considered it.

All of this points out how poorly OJ jas played his cards since the start of his notoriety. All he had to do was stay in Florida, play golf and keep his mouth shut. He was unable to do that, however. He had to have his memorabilia back. I call things like that "closet stuffers". It's nice if you have them, but they really aren't worth much, at least to me.

He's going to have a difficult time in prison, too. It's a dangerous place. There are lots of other criminals there and they are constantly angling for whatever advantage they can get over other prisoners. It' not going to be fun. That's why they call it prison.
__________________
gnm109
  #11  
Old 12-07-2008, 11:44 AM
Maranatha Maranatha is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Looking up at the things above
Posts: 319
I'm wondering about his house. IIRC one reason he moved to Florida was because state law protects a main residence from being taken away in any judgment.

His Florida home is certainly not his main residence anymore, maybe the Goldman's can gain possession?
  #12  
Old 12-07-2008, 08:42 PM
kellabeck kellabeck is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,511
To answer the original question:

I hope so!!!
  #13  
Old 12-07-2008, 10:49 PM
gnm109 gnm109 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: California
Posts: 285
Quote:
Originally Posted by snowbird01 View Post
Why would it be considered a life sentence? He's 61 isn't he? And he'll be out in about 9 years. With no late night partying and nothing to do but work out he may well come out in better shape than he went in. Thats not to say he will enjoy it: quite the contrary - but I don't see why it would kill him. He's a survivor - and he knows how to get along with thugs better than anyone, doesn't he! And he will be richer than when he went in - not alot to spend his money on but favors from guards and other prisoner. He'll save big bucks.
Well of course, you are correct in that 9 years is not a life sentence. He could conceivably do well and try to keep away from trouble. Unfortunately, prison is a place where gangs predominate and trouble often comes looking for yiou. The slightest disrespect, the slightest clash can often result in dire revenge, often weeks later with no warning.

That problem could well be compounded by the fact that OJ, unlike many of the other prisoners, has some money. It's well known that there are those in prison who will attempt to prey on people like that. They will try to gain favor and then, once a relationship is established, cause him to pay for protection from harm. I don't envy his position at all.

It's not the prison or the time, it's the other prisoners he has to worry about.
__________________
gnm109
  #14  
Old 12-08-2008, 01:34 AM
withay withay is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: cuthbert, georgia
Posts: 534
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pumpkinspice View Post
What if OJ dies in prison? What happens to the pension?
It would depend on what type of pension it is and how it is funded. I worked for a state and get a pension for that. When I took my pension I could choose between a larger amount that would end at my death (regardless of how long I live) or a smaller amount which would leave a smaller pension to the person of my choice for their lifetime (regardless of how long they live).
  #15  
Old 12-08-2008, 01:53 AM
legalmania legalmania is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: peachville
Posts: 4,449
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pumpkinspice View Post
What if OJ dies in prison? What happens to the pension?
There's this thing called a will. I'm sure OJ has one.
  #16  
Old 12-08-2008, 10:34 AM
legalmania legalmania is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: peachville
Posts: 4,449
Quote:
Originally Posted by withay View Post
It would depend on what type of pension it is and how it is funded. I worked for a state and get a pension for that. When I took my pension I could choose between a larger amount that would end at my death (regardless of how long I live) or a smaller amount which would leave a smaller pension to the person of my choice for their lifetime (regardless of how long they live).
And you would leave that smaller amount to the person of your choice in a will right? At least I hope you would do that it would be the smart thing to do.
 

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All content Copyright Courtroom Television Network, LLC., All Rights Reserved.