Michelle Fisher Young, 2nd Year Anniversary

[Barbara2]

Hopefully we can continue here and keep in mind that Michelle is the focus of this thread.

[annalyzer]

Originally Posted by onederwomyn

The article today mentioned that Cassidy's prints were all over the house and the police believe she was there with her dead mother for quite sometime...Not to mention, she is heard in the 911 call talking about trying to fix mommy's booboos and I believe it was even stated somewhere she got a washcloth to clean her up. Cassidy never left that house. Poor little girl.

All MO, of course.

I don't think anyone took her out of the house.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Barbara2

In the dark, white would appear light-colored. Go outside in the dark and look at a car that you know is white. It won't look white without light shining on it.

It's useless to even attempt an explanation, Barbara......some people just don't understand that white IS a light color. Obviously it isn't a dark color but if that poster insists it isn't light, what exactly does she think it is then?


Oh wait, it's Jason's vehicle so no matter what color it was, it would never be considered the color described by a witness.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by june1943

Where do you come up with this stuff? Enought to cry herself to sleep.Where was this ever mentioned before? Why didn't she just leave the bathroom? She didn't seem to have any problem leaving her room when MF put her in there during the 911 call. It was like she wasn't even put in the room. You hear MF telling her to stay in her room but Cassie is always there talking in the back ground. Do you suspose Cassie and MF weren't even close to where Michelle was and that is why Cassie didn't seem upset during the call?

Do you know what the phrase "I think" means?

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally Posted by Reinya

The witness said all the lights outside the house were on. You really need to stop your spinning and on the case.

Well, what do you know?
The 2 year mark came and went without that imminent arrest.


Jason's car was always parked in the driveway or maybe on the street when he was home, cause Michelle kept her car in the garage with the boat.

So, is the first time the news carrier noticed a car there, or just cause all the lights in the house were on?
And, he if noticed a car there before, was this the same car?

I wish one of the Young's neighbors had woken up, saw all the lights on, knew Jason was gone, Michelle was alone and pregnant with C, and decided to see if something was wrong or if they needed help.

I guess the Youngs did not get a paper delivered or the carrier could have saw who the killer(s) was, if they were that close, to the driveway.

Next up, were the trash men who were due that am.

And, everyone in Enchanted Oaks slept through the nite, hearing nothing, not knowing someone was murdered.

Kat

[JHP]

I think the most telling statement is the light colored suv was similar to a ford explorer.

Why has an arrest in this case not been made?

JMO

[Barbara2]

Another article about the 2 year mark:

http://wake.mync.com/site/Wake/news/...o-years-later/

[annalyzer]

Originally Posted by Barbara2

Another article about the 2 year mark:

http://wake.mync.com/site/Wake/news/...o-years-later/

According to the sheriff they are still looking for the murderer.

[Barbara2]

Originally Posted by annalyzer

According to the sheriff they are still looking for the murderer.

I think that is a fair and accurate statement given that noone has been arrested. IMO

Originally Posted by Barbara2

Another article about the 2 year mark:

http://wake.mync.com/site/Wake/news/...o-years-later/

What a nice unbiased piece of writing.
Thank you Barbara for posting.
for Michelle,Rylan and ALL who loved her.

Originally Posted by annalyzer

According to the sheriff they are still looking for the murderer.

Well I guess that quashes the RUMORS that:

LE knows who the killer is (Jason)
the GJ indictment against Jason was handed down and is sealed
the DA has the case file and is preparing to indict



The other sealed warrant is set to unseal on 12/01, isn't it?

I searched court filings and could not find where Linda filed a wrongful death suit. Guess the musings of those not-so-much-in-the know were absolutely WRONG in their thinking that a WD suit can be filed and just sit there waiting for the criminal case to be solved.

It's a shame WSCO can't solve the case and bring closure to Michelle's family, friends and loved ones.

It's a shame the 2 year SOL has come and gone and no one can now file a WD suit meaning the killer, if ever caught, will be able to profit from the killing since NC has never enacted any type of Son of Sam law.

Originally Posted by Harvy

That suggests that the back of the SUV was open. Jason did have a couple of pairs of shoes to dispose of, as well as the murder weapon. It makes sense that he would put those in the back of the SUV until he came to a place where he could dispose of the evidence.

If someone was trying to frame Jason by using his shoes, the shoes would have been left at the scene. There is no reasonable explanation for Jason's missing shoes except that he didn't want the shoes to connect him to the crime. He did not know what lengths the police would go to in order to assertain that he once owned a pair of shoes identical to prints made at the scene.

He did

Well what a master criminal he is then to have 2 pairs of bloody shoes in his vehicle and not a trace of blood left behind.

What missing shoes are you talking about? And when was it determined that shoes Jason owns are identical to the prints left at the scene. I would love to see that report and analysis, got a link?

When were those so called missing shoes purchased? A couple of years before the crime? But you don't think it's 'reasonable' for someone to discard shoes for any reason other than to destroy evidence of murder?

[annalyzer]

Originally Posted by Harvy

snip~ If someone was trying to frame Jason by using his shoes, the shoes would have been left at the scene. .

Why would they leave his shoes at the scene? If someone was trying to frame Jason by using his shoes wouldn't they take the shoes with them when they left? What murderer leaves behind his bloody shoes?

[bookie]

Originally Posted by annalyzer

Why would they leave his shoes at the scene? If someone was trying to frame Jason by using his shoes wouldn't they take the shoes with them when they left? What murderer leaves behind his bloody shoes?

Someone else taking his shoes would make it appear he was trying to hide evidence of his guilt. Leaving them would leave a great risk of unknown dna being found in/on them.

[gorealtors]

Breaking news:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3882830/

[annalyzer]

Originally Posted by gorealtors

Breaking news:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3882830/

Will he have to testify (talk) at this hearing?

[patti3]

WD has been filed as of this afternoon.

[gorealtors]

Originally Posted by JBobJones

I'm confused because the 2 years expired yesterday, didn't it? Yet according to the WRAL link, a wrongful death lawsuit was filed by Jason's mother-in-law TODAY. Why would she wait until after the deadline?

This might help explain it:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/cri...y/1281718.html

[bookie]

Originally Posted by JBobJones

I'm confused because the 2 years expired yesterday, didn't it? Yet according to the WRAL link, a wrongful death lawsuit was filed by Jason's mother-in-law TODAY. Why would she wait until after the deadline?

According to the article it was filed last week.


"The lawsuit, filed last week on behalf of Michelle Young's mother, Linda Fisher, and sealed until Tuesday afternoon, claims Jason Young is liable for her daughter's death."

[bookie]

Originally Posted by JBobJones

Will it get past a motion for summary judgment?

Why would there be a motion for summary judgement? Jason hasn't been tried or convicted of murder. He is IUPG in the eyes of the law.

[Cardinal]

Wow, so LF filed the WD suit. I heard the news on TV as I walked in the door tonight. Thanks for the links to the newspaper articles.

[annalyzer]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

Wow, so LF filed the WD suit. I heard the news on TV as I walked in the door tonight. Thanks for the links to the newspaper articles.

So what's next Card?

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by annalyzer

So what's next Card?

Hi, Anna. With the WD suit? Depositions, interrogatories, probably a couple of subpoenas, and lots of legal fees, imo.

I wonder if this will have any impact on the criminal investigation. The burden of proof in a civil case is a preponderance of the evidence rather than BARD. Big difference.

JMO

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by kingcole

News stories about it are mostly accurate....I found the judge's
comment about sealing it a little strange....I'm surprised Linda
let the cops push her into this action....She's the one who will
look foolish, not the cops....I doubt Jason knows about this yet.

==Kingcole

He knows. You apparently didn't read the N&O article carefully:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/cri...y/1281718.html

"Fisher filed the suit last week, but Senior Resident Superior Court Judge Donald Stephens ordered it kept from public view until Jason Young had been served a copy. The suit was unsealed this afternoon."

[Wyn]

Originally Posted by kingcole

News stories about it are mostly accurate....I found the judge's
comment about sealing it a little strange....I'm surprised Linda
let the cops push her into this action....She's the one who will
look foolish, not the cops....I doubt Jason knows about this yet.

==Kingcole

I didn't find the judge's comment "a little strange" at all. IF the media knew about it, then the news would have gotten to Jason and I'm sure he would have run to avoid being served. I'm really surprised you think Jason doesn't know about this. I think one news report even has a statement from his mother! It wasn't released to the media until he was served. Maybe the Youngs have decided you aren't in their "inner circle" anymore?

I can guarantee you the cops didn't push Linda Fisher into anything. She's an intelligent woman and the two year statute was about to run out. Was there anything the Youngs might have done to prevent the filing? LOTS. They're the ones who look foolish because they could have prevented this. I know how, do you? Or would you rather just post some more lies?

I believe someone asked you on another board last night if you had some news you wanted to share. Guess you were the last to know. Besides the JII's here.

Guess you won't be back until you have some spin. Good luck with that.

[jerzeegirl]

This is great news
For Michele, Rylan and their family

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by jerzeegirl

This is great news
For Michele, Rylan and their family

Hi, jerzee - good to see you.

I think a lot of posters thought the WD suit would never happen. Linda Fisher must be pretty determined. It took some legal hoops to get this done, imo.

JMO

[bookie]

Originally Posted by JBobJones

I meant a motion filed by Jason. Sorry I didn't make that more clear

NP. Jason would file a motion to dismiss, not a summary judgement.

[Wyn]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

Hi, jerzee - good to see you.

I think a lot of posters thought the WD suit would never happen. Linda Fisher must be pretty determined. It took some legal hoops to get this done, imo.

JMO

Guess we won't have to read any more flip "cold case" posts.

[jerzeegirl]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

Hi, jerzee - good to see you.

I think a lot of posters thought the WD suit would never happen. Linda Fisher must be pretty determined. It took some legal hoops to get this done, imo.

JMO

Hi Card, good to see you too, good to see breaking news in this case. I was also glad to hear that LE does not think this case is cold. And i truly believe if they have been in contact with linda fisher that they wouldnt have let her go ahead with this law suit if they didnt believe there is proof that he did this. I believe they would have given her some kind of info to let her know that JY is not the guy they think did this.

[bookie]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

Hi, jerzee - good to see you.

I think a lot of posters thought the WD suit would never happen. Linda Fisher must be pretty determined. It took some legal hoops to get this done, imo.

JMO

I wouldn't celebrate just yet. There will be motions to dismiss and the suit may never make it to court. If LF doesn't have standing to sue the court will dismiss the case.

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by jerzeegirl

Hi Card, good to see you too, good to see breaking news in this case. I was also glad to hear that LE does not think this case is cold. And i truly believe if they have been in contact with linda fisher that they wouldnt have let her go ahead with this law suit if they didnt believe there is proof that he did this. I believe they would have given her some kind of info to let her know that JY is not the guy they think did this.

You make a good point. I have no doubt that LF is in close contact with LE - especially since some of them attended the memorial on Sunday. If LE were focused on someone else, it does seem they would have advised her against the WD suit.

JMO

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by bookie

I wouldn't celebrate just yet. There will be motions to dismiss and the suit may never make it to court. If LF doesn't have standing to sue the court will dismiss the case.

There is no celebration in my post. Take your bait some place else tonight. I am simply discussing the FACT that a WD was filed.

[Barbara2]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

There is no celebration in my post. Take your bait some place else tonight. I am simply discussing the FACT that a WD was filed.

The filing was necessary to meet the deadline date but I'm not sure that the case moves forward until the criminal aspect is complete. The evidence gathered for the criminal trial would have to be made available and I don't see that happening right now. IMO

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by Barbara2

The filing was necessary to meet the deadline date but I'm not sure that the case moves forward until the criminal aspect is complete. The evidence gathered for the criminal trial would have to be made available and I don't see that happening right now. IMO

I agree. It would be very difficult for LF to prove her case without the evidence from the criminal investigation, and I can't see LE releasing that evidence until someone is convicted.

So, there will be depositions, and interrogatories..........and delaying tactics, imo.

But I also agree with jerzee - I would think that LE would have steered LF away from the WD if they were focused on a different suspect.

JMO

[bookie]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

There is no celebration in my post. Take your bait some place else tonight. I am simply discussing the FACT that a WD was filed.

I didn't say there was celebration in your post. I was discussing the fact that a suit being filed doesn't mean it will be heard let alone won. There was no bait in my post.

[Barbara2]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

I agree. It would be very difficult for LF to prove her case without the evidence from the criminal investigation, and I can't see LE releasing that evidence until someone is convicted.

So, there will be depositions, and interrogatories..........and delaying tactics, imo.

But I also agree with jerzee - I would think that LE would have steered LF away from the WD if they were focused on a different suspect.

JMO

Yes, very good point about LE steering her away if they had any evidence that someone else was the person responsible. IMO

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by bookie

I didn't say there was celebration in your post. I was discussing the fact that a suit being filed doesn't mean it will be heard let alone won. There was no bait in my post.

Fine, I apologize if I misunderstood your comment. And no, a suit being filed doesn't mean it will be won. But I find the inferences that can be drawn from the filing of this suit, regardless of the outcome, to be significant.

JMO

[bookie]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

Fine, I apologize if I misunderstood your comment. And no, a suit being filed doesn't mean it will be won. But I find the inferences that can be drawn from the filing of this suit, regardless of the outcome, to be significant.

JMO

I don't. Anyone can file a lawsuit. Look at the judge that filed the multimillion dollaar suit against his drycleaners.

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by bookie

I don't. Anyone can file a lawsuit. Look at the judge that filed the multimillion dollaar suit against his drycleaners.

True. But the judge got his day in court, didn't he?