An astrological analysis of OJ Simpson. Very intersting

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Even if you don't believe in this stuff, it's still interesting.

An Astrological Analysis of O.J. Simpson: OJ’s birthdata is as follows: July 9, 1947, 8:08am, San Francisco. (Click here for the chart.) The basic primal three are Sun in Cancer, Leo rising and Pisces moon. The rest of the chart takes on an interesting slant, once viewed from the primal three perspective. Adding to that the Venus in Cancer, Mars in Gemini/north node conjunction.

The real OJ, according to astrology however, shows a much more complex and problematic character. There are layers of persona to analyse; which add up to how OJ became OJ.

The Cancerian Male and Mother: The basics as we start out - include the Sun in Cancer. Just the sun-sign alone denotes a strong connection with the mother in the life; in other words, the sense of identity and self is handed down directly from the mother. The development of his persona, and his self-worth is completely connected to his mother’s connection with him - and probably any female he would come into contact for the rest of his life.

OJ didn’t have a father figure growing up (his father evidently was gay, interestingly enough); Eunice Simpson was the sole parent and guardian of OJ’s development. His mother was considered a major contributor to his success - with her support and pushing OJ out of the ghetto and into enormous fame. She believed in him, and pushed him to be the best he could be. Because his father was essentially missing -- we’ll examine that in the Sun/Neptune -- the entire responsiblity for OJ’s development was squarely on the shoulders of Eunice Simpson.
The Initial Confusion: Moon in Pisces in the 8th house

When the Sun is in Cancer, the sign/placement of the Moon becomes more important, because how the Cancerian was mothered will be indicated, which in turn will show us how well the identity is integrated into the whole of his being. This particular Cancer’s Moon in Pisces in the 8th house, which is complicated and sticky. This isn’t just a wonderful nurturing mother - its complicated with unseen emotional pitfalls.

An 8th house Moon placement isn’t ever easy anyway, since Pluto is sitting in the wings putting a shadowy pawl over the full reign of emotions felt, and then add Piscean expression - which indicates that the emotional foundation of OJ’s environment is not quite what it seems - and feelings cannot be trusted. In our Moon we seek safety and comfort, and familiarity; in OJ’s case, there was likely no emotional safety - no place he could go within himself to find himself, nor find someone to confide in, to give his emotions validity and substance. Those issues would have been subtle, with OJ feeling a sense of confusion as to what his relationship with his mother was really about.

The Pluto underlay, if you will, could add a very scary quality to the maternal relationship as well. The greatest fear with this placement is abandonment - likely due to some sort of emotional wound or trauma that could have happened at birth, or shortly afterwards. That wound could be something that happens at birth that threatens to separate mother and child, perhaps there might have been a trauma at birth that threatened the survival of one, or both parties..The resulting intense feelings of fear, can lead to an insatiable need for mother love leaves a deep emotional wound that never really heals.

We don’t know the circumstances around OJ’s birth - but I would hazard a guess there was something that happened in the first few minutes of life (the addition, Uranus is also squaring the Moon, which could validate this theory. (Uranus can create sudden disturbances, and with the Moon, the natural flow of birth might have well been interrupted). In any case, the 8th house Moon person will almost always be left feeling hungry for connection with the mother, which somehow eludes them throughout life.

Imagine the child that eats and eats and receives and receives and is never full. OJ would have not known when his needs were met, because I suspect his mother superimposed her own needs over his. OJ basically would never know what were his true dreams, or what his mother’s were.

OJ’s underlying hunger for existence is contingent upon not just attaining mother’s love, it was also to have her tell HIM what his needs were, which would keep those two in a co-dependent link forever.

There, in a nutshell, is why we have the boundary issues that likely plagued OJ all his life.

If the child and mother unconsciously know what the agreement (or underlying psychological script, if you will) is in their relationship then it gets acted out in the way that it does. With OJ and his mother, we ultimately see that .motherly love and support from Eunice will cost OJ power points (Mom: “I HAVE the power, but give you little bits of it from time to time, to keep you around” OJ: “I’ll receive whatever you give me and give you the power over my life”).

And each time OJ capitulates, it costs him. Every single time. And yet he still loves his mother, but likely hates her too, for the power she wielded over him.

There was a cost to OJ’s developing masculinity. His feeling of personal potency would have been threatened. The All Powerful Mother, and yes, the gay father were certainly major contributors to the less-than-successful relationships with the women in his life. The loss of potency, as a male, in this culture can be catastrophic. We see how he dealt with that, by entering a fully male profession - to somehow support his feelings of male inadequacy. The symbolic castration of a man like OJ Simpson would have been deadly.

And it was, in the end.

OJ chose his own criminal path. Astrology has nothing to do with it.

imo

[AnnInOhio]

Originally Posted by SuzzannaSuch

Congrats on your new grand baby! What a blessing.

Can you also do a chart on Fred Goldman and explain his constant whining and whimpering? $$$$$
The man I admire is Lew Brown. He has shown integrity under the worst circumstances and has moved on with his life and love for his family.

You admire Lou Brown's integrity, huh? All Lou did was sue OJ for domestic violence against Nicole before killing her. He and his family watched and did nothing about the abuse for years because they were all financially beholden to OJ Simpson! Lou probably only sued then because he realized Goldman would win, and he didn't want Goldman to get all of OJ's money. OJ's money meant more to Lou Brown than his daughter Nicole did. That's not integrity in my book.

[JBL]

Originally Posted by SuzzannaSuch

Congrats on your new grand baby! What a blessing.

Can you also do a chart on Fred Goldman and explain his constant whining and whimpering? $$$$$
The man I admire is Lew Brown. He has shown integrity under the worst circumstances and has moved on with his life and love for his family.

What a joke!

The Browns were bought and paid for by OJ. The Browns lived off of OJ.

Explain the Goldman's whining and whimpering? Never seen them whine or whimper. They stood up to OJ with all OJ's assets and attorney's.

I'd like to credit them with bringing him down. After all if they didn't win that judgement, OJ wouldn't have tried to hide as much as he did then try to reclaim it by threats and intimidation.

I hope they realize that. That judgement that they persued and never let falter took him DOWN!

[JBL]

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...of_nicole.html

Here's a little more of Mr. Integrity.

[fbgweezer]

Originally Posted by JBL

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...of_nicole.html

Here's a little more of Mr. Integrity.

do you have any follow-up on whatever happened?

[JBL]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

do you have any follow-up on whatever happened?

http://articles.latimes.com/1997/dec/09/local/me-62253

[fbgweezer]

Originally Posted by JBL

http://articles.latimes.com/1997/dec/09/local/me-62253

thank you JBL -- this is the first time I've seen any mention of what Nicole's estate actually consisted of. My gut tells me orenthal was behind the suit --

[AnnInOhio]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

thank you JBL -- this is the first time I've seen any mention of what Nicole's estate actually consisted of. My gut tells me orenthal was behind the suit --

Maybe because Wayne Hughes was mentioned as a good friend by OJ in the "suicide letter" read publicly by Kardashian just before the Bronco chase?
http://walraven.org/simpson/suicide.html

OJ used to be in the horse business a little bit with (billionaire horse owner) Wayne Hughes
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports...ojsimpson.html

And of course B. Wayne Hughes owns the company Pubic Storage. How convenient that must have been for OJ. I didn't see where Hughes ever got to testify about seeing bruises on Nicole.

[fbgweezer]

Originally Posted by AnnInOhio

Maybe because Wayne Hughes was mentioned as a good friend by OJ in the "suicide letter" read publicly by Kardashian just before the Bronco chase?
http://walraven.org/simpson/suicide.html

OJ used to be in the horse business a little bit with (billionaire horse owner) Wayne Hughes
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports...ojsimpson.html

And of course B. Wayne Hughes owns the company Pubic Storage. How convenient that must have been for OJ. I didn't see where Hughes ever got to testify about seeing bruises on Nicole.

ahh -- can you see the lightbulbs going on over my head? LOL

I think it would be interesting to see which Public Storage Mr. Hughes owns and whether or not that's where the Rockingham stuff went that night?

[JBL]

Originally Posted by AnnInOhio

Maybe because Wayne Hughes was mentioned as a good friend by OJ in the "suicide letter" read publicly by Kardashian just before the Bronco chase?
http://walraven.org/simpson/suicide.html

OJ used to be in the horse business a little bit with (billionaire horse owner) Wayne Hughes
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports...ojsimpson.html

And of course B. Wayne Hughes owns the company Pubic Storage. How convenient that must have been for OJ. I didn't see where Hughes ever got to testify about seeing bruises on Nicole.

I was probably a bit harsh on the Browns considering their ages and their grand kids (Sydney and Justin).

They didn't have the means to fight OJ and were probably hoping not to ostracize Sydney and Justin.

OJ sure used them along with anyone he's ever met or known.

OJ doesn't have that "clout" he used to. He's burned all of his bridges.
Anyone with any integrity stays a poles length away from him.

Goldman didn't have those obstacles to overcome. He stayed the line from point A - B with all the curves OJ could muster to throw in there and he had a lot.

OJ ran out of juice. HA!

[fbgweezer]

Originally Posted by JBL

I was probably a bit harsh on the Browns considering their ages and their grand kids (Sydney and Justin).

They didn't have the means to fight OJ and were probably hoping not to ostracize Sydney and Justin.

OJ sure used them along with anyone he's ever met or known.

OJ doesn't have that "clout" he used to. He's burned all of his bridges.
Anyone with any integrity stays a poles length away from him.

Goldman didn't have those obstacles to overcome. He stayed the line from point A - B with all the curves OJ could muster to throw in there and he had a lot.

OJ ran out of juice. HA!

I'm not certain that anyone puts the Browns in the same category with the Goldmans -- only in that the Browns have always acted differently where orenthal is concerned. And I'm not passing judgment on right or wrong.

Good one on the 'ran out of juice.'

[AnnInOhio]

Originally Posted by fbgweezer

ahh -- can you see the lightbulbs going on over my head? LOL

I think it would be interesting to see which Public Storage Mr. Hughes owns and whether or not that's where the Rockingham stuff went that night?

Jr.'s daddy started Public Storage, Inc.

http://people.forbes.com/profile/b-wayne-hughes/66170

http://www.publicstorage.com/Corpora...tOfficers.aspx

And yes, OJ asked Wayne Hughes to "look after" his kids per his civil trial deposition
http://walraven.org/simpson/oj_depo1.html

[fbgweezer]

Originally Posted by AnnInOhio

Jr.'s daddy started Public Storage, Inc.

http://people.forbes.com/profile/b-wayne-hughes/66170

http://www.publicstorage.com/Corpora...tOfficers.aspx

And yes, OJ asked Wayne Hughes to "look after" his kids per his civil trial deposition
http://walraven.org/simpson/oj_depo1.html

wonder if they're still friends? wouldn't it be a hoot if it was the storerooms at Hughes' where the rent hadn't been paid? oh my gosh -- it seems everyone that gets anywhere near orenthal gets dirty on them.

[AnnInOhio]

I'm not sure if OJ and AC Cowlings were buddies with Jr. or Sr. Hughes.
Some Q&A From AC's deposition during the civil trial...

Q: Okay. We had spoken a little bit about Wayne Hughes the other day. Did you have any business dealings with Wayne Hughes?
A: Wayne is one of my closest friends. I have been involved with some of – when Wayne first started his company, he got me – he had me to invest in it.
Q: Public Storage?
A: Yes.

Q: When – Has Mr. Simpson been friends with Wayne Hughes for as long as you have, also?
A: Yes.

Q: Do you know whether Hughes ever visited Simpson in jail?
A: He did.
Q: Do you know whether he visited him more than once?
A: Yes.

Q: Did Mr. Hughes express – ever express to you (AC) that he was unhappy with what was going on in the media with regard to Nicole Brown Simpson?
A: He was very unhappy with all of it.

http://walraven.org/simpson/ac_depo3.html