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Old 10-16-2008, 10:40 PM
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Michelle Young Oct 16th

Don't know what happened to the other thread.
Justice for Michelle and her baby boy.
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Old 10-16-2008, 10:43 PM
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Just dropped by and see that it's gone. Interesting. Someone post something the JII"s didn't care for again? And I was hoping old King Cole would stop by and answer the questions I had for him. Too much to ask for I guess.
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Old 10-16-2008, 10:57 PM
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Jason could have told LE if Michelle routinely left the lights on outside when he was out of town. He could have walked through the home and told LE if anything was moved, missing, not normal. He could have told LE if Michelle's attire was typical for sleeping. He could have done all of this with his attorney present to stop him from saying anything incriminating. If he truly loved Michelle, why wouldn't he want to help LE find the person who brutally beat her to death and also murdered his unborn son?

Why has Jason not bothered to put a headstone on Michelle's grave after two years?

Where is the shirt? Have you asked Jason what he did with it since LE wants to know? If he has a reasonable explanation it could help prove that he didn't murder Michelle.

Why did you say that Michelle and Jason had a "hefty" savings account and could have afforded to fix both the heat pump and the garage door, and then later say that LE confiscated a "hefty" check so that those items couldn't be fixed and that LE didn't care?

Why do you keep making stuff up and throwing it out to see what sticks? Do you think in the end, it's really going to make a difference?

Did you know the DA in Wake County asks the victim's family (which would be the Fishers in this case ) whether they want the prosecution to seek the death penalty or a life sentence? Are you satisfied that you and your SIL have libeled the victim's family enough so that when the time comes and they are made aware of the extent, it may influence their decision?



And another question that you probably won't bother to answer either, where will Jason be celebrating Michelle's murder this year? Last year Puerto Rico, this year?
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:02 PM
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When did Jason start talking to Meredith? Has he explained to her where the shirt is now? Where he "lost" it? Has it told her why he hasn't bothered to put a headstone on his wife's grave after two years? Did he tell her where he's going to celebrate, um, memoralize Michelle's memory this year?
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:05 PM
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Caterwaulers can pose for the media.

He prefers sincerity, dignity, and privacy.

Kingcole

You will be choking on the words above when JY is arrested.
He may be free now but it won't be forever .
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:06 PM
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Sincerity equals "not talking to avoid incriminating himself".

Dignity equals leaving the country so "no one can see him having a good time celebrating on the anniversary of Michelle's death".

Privacy equals "hiding out in Brevard" where his family can protect him from people who would question him about the murder.
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:08 PM
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Sincerity equals "not talking to avoid incriminating himself".

Dignity equals leaving the country so "no one can see him having a good time celebrating on the anniversary of Michelle's death".

Privacy equals "hiding out in Brevard" where his family can protect him from people who would question him about the murder.
Yes good post Wyn.
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:08 AM
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WYN ASKED:
Did you know the DA in Wake County asks the victim's family (which would be the Fishers in this case ) whether they want the prosecution to seek the death penalty or a life sentence? Are you satisfied that you and your SIL have libeled the victim's family enough so that when the time comes and they are made aware of the extent, it may influence their decision?
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Sure I know that. I've seen it on tv. Jason's not
concerned about it. It doesn't apply to him.

But others should be aware that when the mountain folks are asked that question, they will show no mercy.

You should know also that this has nothing to do with you
and other posters and message board comments. It's all
about justice for Michelle.

That's the only thing that will influence their decision.

==Kingcole
The only reason that it doesn't apply to Jason at this point is because he hasn't been arrested and tried.

I doubt very seriously that you will get to weigh in on the discussion so there goes that "moutain folks" comment you keep making. Unless in the meantime Jason decides to murder someone else up in your "neck of the woods". And I doubt anyone will still ask for your opinion.

It does have something to do with some message board posters. Who do you think is going to make sure the Fishers are aware of what's been going on when the time comes? Open your eyes.

Yes Justice for Michelle is why some of us are here. And that is why it does matter.

I see you didn't bother to answer any of the other questions. Guess most of the stuff was more "red herring" for your fictionalized version of what really happened because you don't have any anwers. You still really know nothing. But your response is quite typical.
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:11 AM
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When did he stop talking to Meredith?
I have no idea what he has told her.

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My guess would be shortly after he left her home and realized everyone knew he was the one who murdered Michelle. Of course you have no idea what he has told her. He doesn't actually tell YOU anything. You're doing a great job of constantly proving that. Thanks.
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:23 AM
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You and your SIL failed to intimidate the posters who think Jason is guilty. Guess that didn't work to well for you now did it? Look, we're still here. And will be until there is Justice for Michelle.

No one is going to be here to discuss anything if they don't stop their childish bickering.
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:29 AM
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Why do you bother reading and responding
to my nothing, zip, nada?

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Good point. Here's a clue.


"Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." --Edmund Burke

You mountain folks planned anything to remember Michelle on the second anniversary of her murder? Only seventeen days. I reckon you better get crackin if you haven't. Or is Jason planning on leaving the country again for fun in the sun?

It's going to be interesting when Jason has to one day explain to Cassidy why no one bothered to remember her mother. Why they are trying to wipe out Cassidy's memory of her mother and her mother's entire family.
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:46 AM
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Funny, I don't see any bickering. Are you today's moderator?
Perfect example. Wagging your finger and asking if I'm the moderator. Childish and bickering.
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:40 AM
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[quote=june1943;12300946][quote=TIAZ;12300916]

You put that this post was original Kat's and you know very good and well it wasn't. The JDI's just can't play fair.



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Gee Kat, I'm pretty sure you posted you weren't the moderator but here you go again. Sounds like you'd like an excuse to close down the thread. Where will old King Cole go then?

Hopefully the same rule applies when Kat starts posting about why the Fisher's haven't gone for custody of Cassidy like Nancy Cooper's Family. She has been going on about that for weeks and I have not seen any wagging fingers telling HER to stay on topic.
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Was this suppose to be a joke post? Look at the mess you posted above. Because it looks like one poster made a simple quote error and then you decided to compound it. It looks like the post above was made by Kat, you managed to throw my name in the middle of Kat's info, and the person who made part of the post isn't even identified. "Play fair?"

I suggest you correct MY quote not to include someone else's quote being attributed to me asap. Thanks.
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:47 AM
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No one is going to be here to discuss anything if they don't stop their childish bickering.
I agree. I have not posted for a couple of days because if the JDI continues to make this board all about KC, CW is going to close it and prolly do a lot of banning.
Can E1 get back on the real topic of Michelle Young`s murder?
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:53 AM
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I agree. I have not posted for a couple of days because if the JDI continues to make this board all about KC, CW is going to close it and prolly do a lot of banning.
Can E1 get back on the real topic of Michelle Young`s murder?
Thank You
Step back and take a good unbiased look at this board and what KC posts. It IS all about Michelle Young's murder and his attempts to distract from any focus on Jason. KC isn't going to get a free ride on throwing crap out and then moving on without some discussion or explanations.

IF a JDI had posted that Michelle and Jason had a "hefty savings account" and could easily afford to fix the heat pump and broken garage door in one post, and later in another, berated the "cops" for taking a "hefty check" from Jason so that he couldn't afford to fix the heat pump and the garage door, the JII's would have been harping on it for weeks. But it's okay because he's Jason's bud, right?
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:07 AM
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ITA!

Lets let CW do her job and ignore those "playing" moderator.

I found the comments posted yesterday VERY interesting!!!

"A husband who loves his wife and honors her as the mother of his children would go to a memorial service. Would call her family," said Smith. "To fail to do so is weird and bizarre."

http://wake.mync.com/site/Wake/news/...r-case-begins/

I wonder what advice Jason was given??
"Don't talk", according to his mother's phone call on NCWanted. That wouldn't have prevented them from doing something with their family in friends in Brevard to help Cassidy remember and honor her mother's memory.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:17 AM
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ITA!

Lets let CW do her job and ignore those "playing" moderator.

I found the comments posted yesterday VERY interesting!!!

"A husband who loves his wife and honors her as the mother of his children would go to a memorial service. Would call her family," said Smith. "To fail to do so is weird and bizarre."

http://wake.mync.com/site/Wake/news/...r-case-begins/

I wonder what advice Jason was given??
Tiaz, your link takes me to a page with links unrelated to your quote. Could you post a better link or let me know where on the page your quote is. TIA
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:19 AM
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Now I wonder if thats what Jason was REALLY told. Doesn't sound very likely in light of these new comments.
No one is required to do what their attorney suggests. It is possible that Smith wanted Jason to sit down with LE and answer questions. If Jason knew he couldn't answer them, why even try? Better to just say the attorney said not to talk and then clam up. Certainly can't incriminate himself that way and who's to know the difference? No one from the attorney's office is going to talk to Jason's family or friends without his permission so they'd never know the truth.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:25 AM
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In case Tiaz is gone for awhile, if you go to their link, pick Wake County. Then just click on Cary.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:33 AM
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Tiaz, your link takes me to a page with links unrelated to your quote. Could you post a better link or let me know where on the page your quote is. TIA
Here's the link I found directly to the article:

http://cary.mync.com/site/cary/news/story/11171

The article is long and the quote is almost at the bottom. You will get to it quicker if you scroll all the way to the bottom and then back up.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:55 AM
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Here's the link I found directly to the article:

http://cary.mync.com/site/cary/news/story/11171

The article is long and the quote is almost at the bottom. You will get to it quicker if you scroll all the way to the bottom and then back up.
TY Barbara, the other link took me to it. I read it. I am trying to stay away from this case. It is going to get really dirty if LE does not find and arrest her murderer. MOO
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:03 PM
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Wait a minute. Did Smith say 'private' memorial service where
media and ghouls and caterwaulers are not present?

Are some posters feeling left out because they were not invited
to a private memorial service that was not advertised.... a
private service that really was to honor Michelle with no cameras,
no media, no weird and bizarre mourners?

(snipped)

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Old 10-17-2008, 02:09 PM
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I thought the same thing. A Power happy judge. Do you think this is why LE didn't acknowledge a witness to her jogging?
I still think that at least 3 or 4 of these murders could be connected and LE does NOT want to panic the good citizens of Wake County. This judge is way out of line. IMO
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Old 10-17-2008, 02:16 PM
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Spending a relaxing week where they honeymooned does. (snipped).

No it doesn't, it was just another callous slap in the face to the ones that really loved Michelle.

That very weekend there was a "Real" Memorial. The loving husband should have been there and above all Cassidy should have been there. All these attempts at completely erasing Michelle's memory and family are going to backfire.

In what world, does a husband waste money on a trip to Puerto Rico before placing a monument on his murdered wife and child's grave?


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Old 10-17-2008, 03:22 PM
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Not a good example at all.
Must have been since that post is no longer here.
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I guess I still don't understand why it looks suspicious if someone doesn't want their whole life splashed in some newspaper or the evening news? I would not want news cameras watching my every move, whether I had done something or not. Maybe I am just a private person..anyway, I see other things in this case that Jason should be worried about if true.
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:47 PM
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That's not a question the DA asks the family ahead of an arrest. I don't get how Jason has libeled the Fishers though. When and where did he ever speak publicly?
Wyn (not kingcole) in her recap on page 1, posed this question. Jason is not referred to in this question. Maybe that's where your confusion comes from.
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Old 10-17-2008, 04:32 PM
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No it doesn't, it was just another callous slap in the face to the ones that really loved Michelle.

That very weekend there was a "Real" Memorial. The loving husband should have been there and above all Cassidy should have been there. All these attempts at completely erasing Michelle's memory and family are going to backfire.

In what world, does a husband waste money on a trip to Puerto Rico before placing a monument on his murdered wife and child's grave?


MOO

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And as for "wasn't invited crowd", Jason is capable of picking up a phone and finding out what the deal is. Especially since the victim's family are unable to contact him at his mothers. Anyone find it interesting she changed her phone number to an unlisted number and failed to give it to Cassidy's OTHER grandmother?
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Old 10-17-2008, 05:08 PM
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And as for "wasn't invited crowd", Jason is capable of picking up a phone and finding out what the deal is. Especially since the victim's family are unable to contact him at his mothers. Anyone find it interesting she changed her phone number to an unlisted number and failed to give it to Cassidy's OTHER grandmother?
I hadn't heard that, but I am not surprised. Was this before Linda was forced to drop in @ Cassidy's Day Care in order to she her or since then?

I have always thought that Jason would be in much better shape, if he had hired a PR guy, instead of a Lawyer. How much could it cost, for a lawyer to say "SHUT UP"?

In the meantime, by allowing his relatives and friends to do his bidding, they have backed him into a corner at every chance and posted confirmations throughout Cyberspace what a lousy human being Jason is.
No one will ever forget hearing Pat screech on the phone to NCW, and the feeble teacher's attempts at covering for Jason have only given out more rope. With friend's like that, who needs enemies?

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Old 10-17-2008, 06:09 PM
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(snipped) You all portray Ms. Linda Fisher to be rather unstable, but then you seem willing to also throw Michelle under your bus.

(snipped)
I have never said ONE bad word about Linda or Michelle!

Michelle and Linda have been forced into situations, where they are at the mercy of Jason Lynn Young. Michelle, in the narrow confines of her bedroom that fateful night and Linda in the aftermath of the murders, with Jason holding Cassidy hostage. They are victims, I do not disparage victims!

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Old 10-17-2008, 06:22 PM
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I have never said ONE bad word about Linda or Michelle!

Michelle and Linda have been forced into situations, where they are at the mercy of Jason Lynn Young. Michelle, in the narrow confines of her bedroom that fateful night and Linda in the aftermath of the murders, with Jason holding Cassidy hostage. They are victims, I do not disparage victims!

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I see they're making up rumors about you again, Swabby. The only posters on this board who have portrayed Linda Fisher as anything other than the class act that she is, unlike the Young clan, are Jason's die hard fans. They might want to rethink the road they keep trying to travel down. Seriously, could you imagine anything worse than that NCWanted stunt Pat Young tried? It only made her son look more guilty.
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Old 10-17-2008, 06:43 PM
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I see they're making up rumors about you again, Swabby. The only posters on this board who have portrayed Linda Fisher as anything other than the class act that she is, unlike the Young clan, are Jason's die hard fans. They might want to rethink the road they keep trying to travel down. Seriously, could you imagine anything worse than that NCWanted stunt Pat Young tried? It only made her son look more guilty.
I'm not surprised. When you exists in a nebula where Jason is the paradigm of everything good and just in the world, you don't have much to work with.

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Old 10-17-2008, 07:01 PM
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While you haven't said any bad 'words' about Linda Fisher, you and a few others seem to be using the forum to wage some sort of ugly vendetta on Linda Fisher's behalf not only against Jason Young but also his mother. That's my perception of your continuing tirades. Do you honestly believe your actions help the situation? Serious question.

That's rich coming from you. Twist and shout all you want.

From DAY ONE, I have never turned a deaf ear or a blind eye to Jason's actions or behavior.

You, on the other hand have tried time and time again to turn the conversation to Meredith or Linda, as having murdered Michelle & Rylan.

As for a vendetta against Jason? Jason needs to pay for his actions, that is called JUSTICE! As for Pat and the rest of his enablers, I can only HOPE that the Court System eventually metes out what it deems fair in those situations as well.

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(snipped) 'Unstable'? Is that how you think Linda is portrayed
by some of these girls? (snipped)

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The only "UNSTABLE" displays I have seen since this whole thing started were Pat Young SCREECHING on the phone with NCW, and some old wannabe friend of Jason's..just rambling along and telling tales out of school ALL over the Internet. He might as well get the grave digging job, for all the good he has done Jason.

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Old 10-17-2008, 07:45 PM
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The only "UNSTABLE" displays I have seen since this whole thing started were Pat Young SCREECHING on the phone with NCW, and some old wannabe friend of Jason's..just rambling along and telling tales out of school ALL over the Internet. He might as well get the grave digging job, for all the good he has done Jason.

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I listened to the NCW tape, and I did not hear anyone screech.

I heard someone defending their son and asking that he not
be called a suspect, is that screeching?

We are getting there, what is it, a little over 2 weeks left?

I am curious to see if this arrest will be made or any suit will be filed.

I sure would like to know how someone can file a suit against
someone if charges have not been brought against them....

I guess we will get to see.


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I reckon that means you disagree...pugnaciously. Okay.
Still, I think the girls should be more careful about
embarrassing others whom they claim to speak for.

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I coudn't agree more.

I couldn't or wouldn't be able to speak for anyone in this case.

I think what happens to some people when they start living and breathing a case, they begin to identify themselves with the victim
and their family, and become way too involved.

That would be almost like saying they have no faith in LE and what they are doing.

Scary.
Very scary.

JMO

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I see they're making up rumors about you again, Swabby. The only posters on this board who have portrayed Linda Fisher as anything other than the class act that she is, unlike the Young clan, are Jason's die hard fans. They might want to rethink the road they keep trying to travel down. Seriously, could you imagine anything worse than that NCWanted stunt Pat Young tried? It only made her son look more guilty.

<<~~~~ That would be a proud Jason diehard fan.

Thanxxxx.

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You mean like when you call Jason, "Jay", and refuse to call Cassidy by her given name (which has been published in numerous papers)? Like that kind of insertion into a case? You are one of the worst offenders. Or do you mean "no faith in LE" by how you constantly harp on how long it is taking for them to solve this case? The countdowns? The insinuation that it will become a "cold" case at the 2 year mark? That kind of "no faith in LE"?

JUSTICE FOR MICHELLE AND RYLAN!

Yep., kinda!!

I kind of think that Michelle would hate seeing her child's name referred to on a public Message Board ..

We are not the media.

And, while I am sure L E is doing a good job, I am referring to the insiders who have pushed the case to the limits to be solved, instead of sitting back and letting L E do it.

2 years IS a long time in a case like this, where the body is found almost immediately, kind of makes you wonder what the heck is kinda going on!!


Kat
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Old 10-17-2008, 08:24 PM
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YOU really are a piece of work. YOU have NO right to speak for Linda! Any grandmother that would keep the other grandmother from seeing their grandchild deserves EVERYONE'S disparaging comments. Any Grandmother that would return presents or change their phone number to keep the other grandmother at bay, deserves anything and EVERYTHING that I am allowed to post on this forum AND MORE!!


Pat and Jason bear the responsibility for the way that they have treated Linda and denied Cassidy's best interests. I cannot wait for the Courts to right this terrible injustice!


MOO

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But, that's the point.

The Fishers should not have had to wait for 2 years, to do what the Cooper family did in days.

And, since we do not know the relationship between the Youngs and the Fishers before the murder, it is kind of hard to say or judge anyone,

C needed to be protected, her Dad is her protector, if,someone does not like the law, then someone needs to make it different, or do something about it.

There is no confirmation any presents were returned, it is all more stuff to get people to hate Jason and his family.

It goes in the same file with all the other unfounded accusations.

Posting it does not make it true.

Hope this helps.

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Old 10-17-2008, 08:47 PM
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I am not screeching for Linda, I am screeching AGAINST Pat YOUNG!

Pat and Jason Lynn YOUNG are denying Cassidy contact with her maternal side of the family. Twist and Shout all you want.

Thankfully, other posters here are literate.

MOO

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