Current O.J. trial discussion thread

I thought I'd start this to get this board back on track. This is the current trial, not the old one.

Anyone hear anymore from Scotto as of late? Is he still in Vegas hunting down imaginary witnesses?

What do you all think OJ's sentence should be?

I'd like to see him get life since he can't control is criminal behavior ever. He may not get life, but he most certainly will get 15 at least.

omo

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Is anyone watching Dr. Phil..interviewing 4 juror from this case..Interesting..

Gum chewing Foreman..is in a suit today and lost the gum..LOL

LMS

P.S. Fred and Kim Goldman also on via Satellite..

Yes, I'm watching now. Did the forum just say "OJ has a large fan base" that are threatening the jury?

???

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Originally Posted by NYGalPal

In case anyone is interested. Dr. Phil has a few members of the jury on. Once again they state "it was OJ on the tapes" that got him found guilty

Rats..Riccio is going to be on Dr. Phil now..Geesh..wish they just stop giving him airtime..The tapes he made were for his benefit only...not to help nail OJ on any convictions...He was like a gambler, and taped to protect himself...then to sell after the caper!! He had no idea they would be so lucrative as they turned out to be..In fact they would have put his backside in jail too had that recorder been found ontop of that armoire in that room..Now that is something I would have really appreciated..NO IMMUNITY deal could be sought by Riccio!!

LMS

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Oooooohhhlala..Mike Gilbert is next.......This could be informative...HUMMMM

LMS

Originally Posted by Lyndawitha"Y

Rats..Riccio is going to be on Sr. Phil now..Geesh..wish they just stop giving him airtime..The tapes he made were for his benefit only...not to help nail OJ on any convictions...He was like a gambler, and taped to protect himslef...then to sell after the caper!! He had no idea they would be so lucrative as they turned out to be..In fact they would have put his backside in jail too had that recorder been ound ontop of that armoire in that room..Now that is something I would have really appreciated..NO IMMUNITY deal could be sought by Riccio!!

LMS

You beat me. I was just about to type the same thing. Enough of him already. Didn't he admit to making money via his multiple interviews? He doesn't appear to have no shame. He's constantly making a fool of himself. Dr. Phil just caught him contradicting himself. IRRC, Nancy Grace has also caught him contradicting himself.

mho

Dr. Phil telling them how slimely they all are. If the shoe fits.

mho

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Originally Posted by NYGalPal

You beat me. I was just about to type the same thing. Enough of him already. Didn't he admit to making money via his multiple interviews? He doesn't appear to have no shame. He's constantly making a fool of himself. Dr. Phil just caught him contradicting himself. IRRC, Nancy Grace has also caught him contradicting himself.

mho

Is it me?? or is Dr. Phil being very pointed in his disgust regarding the slimeyness of all the actions of the players in this sting..and OJ enablers to do what he wanted..or to profit by their association with him..It is so obvious to me..but then again maybe its because I feel OJ and his association with all these people indicate similar thoughts...

Lisa Bloom speaking now.....Mr. Cook, Attny for Goldman's pursuiting collection of judgement..

LMS

Originally Posted by Lyndawitha"Y

Is it me?? or is Dr. Phil being very pointed in his disgust regarding the slimeyness of all the actions of the players in this sting..and OJ enablers to do what he wanted..or to profit by their association with him..It is so obvious to me..but then again maybe its because I feel OJ and his association with all these people indicate similar thoughts...

Lisa Bloom speaking now.....Mr. Cook, Attny for Goldman's pursuiting collection of judgement..

LMS

Now it isn't you, he did point it out. You could see the digust on his face. I applaud him for that.

Lisa Bloom said "this is who OJ chose to spend his last free days with, convicted felons". Alexander said "I'm not a convicted felon". Really? His arrest record is a mile long. Why is he holding a bible on stage? silly if you ask me.

OJ chose people just like him, thugs with criminal histories.

mho

[Details]

Jurors say anything new? Anything from the alternate jurors? And what about death threats? Not that I'm surprised - I expect that. I'd be pretty positive every player in this is getting some death threats - on both sides. Because in any place as large as America, on any issue big enough that a substantial percentage of the country fall on one side or the other, there will be a few violent nutjobs on both sides who express disappointment with violence, who are used to getting their way with violence and threats of violence.

Why didn't Scotto have the courage to go on Dr. Phil?

Originally Posted by Details

Jurors say anything new? Anything from the alternate jurors? And what about death threats? Not that I'm surprised - I expect that. I'd be pretty positive every player in this is getting some death threats - on both sides. Because in any place as large as America, on any issue big enough that a substantial percentage of the country fall on one side or the other, there will be a few violent nutjobs on both sides who express disappointment with violence, who are used to getting their way with violence and threats of violence.

Jurors said "they listened to the tapes and didnt' really on the witnesses who weren't to be believed".

I only caught the last 30 minutes. I tried to type here what was being said. Regarding the threats, the forum spoke about it briefly. The lunatics always come out during every guilty verdict don't you know. If they are getting real threats, the FBI will be right on it.

mho

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Originally Posted by NYGalPal

Why didn't Scotto have the courage to go on Dr. Phil?

Cause...Cause...He didnt have time???Afraid some backgound would get exposed? or cause he's afraid he might insert his other foot in his mouth?? Doesnt really matter..cause other than supporting his best buddy..he cant offer substitive insight to issues at hand...i.e. Jury and their perspective, Co-conspirators and their perspective, or verdict and it's meanings...I dont know just what makes Tom Scotto tick.??

Scotto doesnt seem totaly intouch with his emotions right now..so maybe he just felt it wise to keep his mouth shut..along with OJ's family... Arnell, Mattie and others related to the consequences!!

LMS

Originally Posted by Guernica

Too busy scouring the alleys of Las Vegs?

I can picture him doing that. Personally I think he is full of himself. I saw him on NG the other night. He embarassed himself multiple times by lying for OJ. Nancy set him straight since all of OJs words are on the tapes and the trancripts. I do believe the interview might still be on her website.

mho

[Details]

Originally Posted by NYGalPal

Jurors said "they listened to the tapes and didnt' really on the witnesses who weren't to be believed".

I only caught the last 30 minutes. I tried to type here what was being said. Regarding the threats, the forum spoke about it briefly. The lunatics always come out during every guilty verdict don't you know. If they are getting real threats, the FBI will be right on it.

mho

Nothing much new then.

Yep, there are always the lunatics. I think they should be on both real and fake threats. Because jurors should never be in fear of their lives due to doing their duty. It's not good for any jury to ever be having to put that into consideration when considering the evidence.

Originally Posted by Guernica

Thanks for the info; I will go look for the transcripts as I don't see her show. Wonder if she asked him if he knew anyone with a white Infinity Q56 SUV?

I don't recall that question, but it is possible she may have.

omo

[Details]

Originally Posted by NYGalPal

I can picture him doing that. Personally I think he is full of himself. I saw him on NG the other night. He embarassed himself multiple times by lying for OJ. Nancy set him straight since all of OJs words are on the tapes and the trancripts. I do believe the interview might still be on her website.

mho

I love when interviewers do that - don't let someone get away with lying or dodging questions. Otherwise people see the lies, and believe them.

Originally Posted by Details

Nothing much new then.

Yep, there are always the lunatics. I think they should be on both real and fake threats. Because jurors should never be in fear of their lives due to doing their duty. It's not good for any jury to ever be having to put that into consideration when considering the evidence.

I know what you're saying. I remember when someone sent Dr. Phil a death threat because he had the Scott Peterson jury on. Wonder if they ever tracked that person down? It could possibly be the same one making this current threat.

omo

Originally Posted by Details

I love when interviewers do that - don't let someone get away with lying or dodging questions. Otherwise people see the lies, and believe them.

You'll find it entertaining.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/cri...on.witness.cnn

[Details]

Originally Posted by NYGalPal

I know what you're saying. I remember when someone sent Dr. Phil a death threat because he had the Scott Peterson jury on. Wonder if they ever tracked that person down? It could possibly be the same one making this current threat.

omo

Yeah. For this case, there's a much bigger chance, because OJ is nationally famous and infamous. So if 0.01% of Americans are his fans, that's a huge number of people, and if even a very small percentage of them are violently inclined thugs, that could generate a lot of death threats.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Originally Posted by Details

I love when interviewers do that - don't let someone get away with lying or dodging questions. Otherwise people see the lies, and believe them.

Very true Details, however it should behoove either the interviewer or someone who listens to interview with a smiggen of sckepticism...I have seen from various media outlets when spin mode gets in high gears..knowing something just said was lacking in truthfullness..or only half the facts..or totally misrepresenting facts..gets me agoing...LOL..and I too appreciate it when the interviewer either corrects or insists on getting the truthful facts out there..Unfortunately, some outlets have agenda's and feed the frenzy..for their ratings..or their beliefs...LOL

Actually, Fox for one is so biased in almost all their coverages..no matter what the topic..I sometimes go there just to see what the latest scandle, or pregudicial topic they're spinning....I just LOL at their obvious biases..

In closing.....LOL..I appreciate all interviewers who seek to be complte..giving both sides!!

LMS

OJ is not worth going to jail for by making death threats because you aren't intelligent enough to hear he is guilty. Maybe they dont' care that he is guilty like before? Quite possible.

omo

[Details]

Originally Posted by NYGalPal

You'll find it entertaining.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/cri...on.witness.cnn

Oh, you're right - that is funny - right at the start, Riccio saying he now thinks OJ knew about the guns, but didn't know about the robbery. How do you get there? Yeah, you bring guns for a peaceful conversation? Nice little correction she gives him - did OJ come into the room with guns and take things that did not belong to him? Yes. OK, under the law, that is an armed robbery! Duh!

But this was the Riccio that I've got, not the Scotto.

Originally Posted by Details

Oh, you're right - that is funny - right at the start, Riccio saying he now thinks OJ knew about the guns, but didn't know about the robbery. How do you get there? Yeah, you bring guns for a peaceful conversation? Nice little correction she gives him - did OJ come into the room with guns and take things that did not belong to him? Yes. OK, under the law, that is an armed robbery! Duh!

But this was the Riccio that I've got, not the Scotto.

Oh no, I'm not very good at this link stuff. Scotto interview I thought was right after Riccio. Now I can't find it.

Back to Riccio. He's a fool if anyone is going to believe OJ knew about guns, but didn't know about a robbery. That was the point of bringing guns, to rob them of the belongings.

Riccio your book sales are dropping to 0.

jmo

[Details]

Thanks!

She didn't correct Scotto as much as she should have. He claimed they called Inside Edition before 911 - that's an outright lie, and right there on tape too.

Originally Posted by Guernica

Here's the transcript of the Nancy Grace show where mid-way she does the interviews re the Simpson Trial. It is about halfway down when I use my right scroll bar. It is after a commercial break and starts off with playing a tape.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../06/ng.01.html


P.S. This segment goes to the end of her show. Scotto is talked with at least twice.

Thank you for posting the transcript. Funny he has gone silent after this interview.

mho

[warhorse46]

Originally Posted by NYGalPal

Thank you for posting the transcript. Funny he has gone silent after this interview.

mho

Well now cut the guy some slack, he does not have the time for tv interviews now since he is soooooo busy searching for the "real" criminals in the armed robbery & kidnapping case. Just like OJ spent 13 years searching all those golf courses for the real killers of Ron & Nicole. (insert max sarcasm here)

[JBL]

Originally Posted by warhorse46

Well now cut the guy some slack, he does not have the time for tv interviews now since he is soooooo busy searching for the "real" criminals in the armed robbery & kidnapping case. Just like OJ spent 13 years searching all those golf courses for the real killers of Ron & Nicole. (insert max sarcasm here)

Thug Pines. I'd imagine it's the 18 hole course. Scotto's headed there after the interviews.

Originally Posted by warhorse46

Well now cut the guy some slack, he does not have the time for tv interviews now since he is soooooo busy searching for the "real" criminals in the armed robbery & kidnapping case. Just like OJ spent 13 years searching all those golf courses for the real killers of Ron & Nicole. (insert max sarcasm here)

Someone give him a map so he can find the jail house which is now OJs new home.

[warhorse46]

Originally Posted by JBL

Thug Pines. I'd imagine it's the 18 hole course. Scotto's headed there after the interviews.

And will no doubt return to time & time again to research.

[warhorse46]

Originally Posted by NYGalPal

Someone give him a map so he can find the jail house which is now OJs new home.

But that address does not have a golf course! The really criminals couldn`t possibly be there with no golf course could they?

Originally Posted by warhorse46

But that address does not have a golf course! The really criminals couldn`t possibly be there with no golf course could they?

Can't argue with that. <chuckle>

[JConnolly]

Everyone! I know this thread was started to talk about current affairs, but on the other thread that went way off course, there was mention of a tattoo... I finished reading that thread but saw nothing else about it, as far as WHAT the tat WAS of... sounded to me like the poster who mentioned it had some inside knowledge due to her/his contacting a parlor ... and went so far as to suggest I could possibly contact one myself and ask what the tat meant... well, how can I do that if I can't describe it?

I apologize if this post takes the forum O/T a bit, ( but I couldn't help but notice reference has been made to events of 13 yrs ago ) I AM REALLY CURIOUS about this tattoo on Ron's body! Anyone??

Oh and PS, got the PMs, will answer them shortly....

[JBL]

Originally Posted by Guernica

Thanks for the info; I will go look for the transcripts as I don't see her show. Wonder if she asked him if he knew anyone with a white Infinity Q56 SUV?

That is the one remaining mystery to this entire saga. Who the heck was in there.

[JConnolly]

Originally Posted by NYGalPal

I read that as well. Without taking this thread OT. I'll pm you on the matter.

Thanks! You're a peach!

[JBL]

Originally Posted by NYGalPal

Mrs. Scotto?

That is my first guess however I'm not sure they rented a vehicle. Vegas is a tough town to ride around if you don't know the area. That's why CJ was tooling them around town.

However there are conflicting stories about how many people were in the SUV. From 2 people unidentifiable in the front to a male and female in the front still unidentifiable to the two in the front male and female and possibly someone in the back seat. No one payed enough attention to it to actually make an identification. If it's true that more then two were in that vehicle I'd rule in the Scottos and a driver.

Oj knows.

[caphill]

I would like to hear the jury foreman to elaborate on his comments on why the jury decided to stay so late to reach a verdict. He said something to the effect he wanted to get it done without having the jury going home because they could have flat tire, get sick etc.

Was he inferring that if the jury had not come to terms at that time they were to stay in the jury room until they reached an agreement. Did he infer he was afraid if the jurors went home that something could happen to them they would prevent them from returning for further deliberations?

Was his strange comments a clue that he was afraid he or his fellow jurors were possibly a target and were in harm's way. Was anyone threatened during the time they sat on the jury?

[gaelicpeas]

Originally Posted by mcannie1965

Not everything has a link. There are NO links to the book sources I provided. I gave the book title, name of the author, and page number where the information can be located. We are allowed to give book sources.

Ok, fine. Can you please provide a few paragraphs surrounding your claims so that we can maybe understand the context of the statements? Thank you.

[JBL]

Originally Posted by Guernica

IIRC, the identity of people in that white Q56 SUV has been driving the two of us nuts -- LOL. If the testimony we heard was true the bulk of Simpson's 'stuff' was put into it and it was then driven away. I hope LE really tried to track it down and were unsuccessfull rather than a case of it becoming an insignificant issue since there was bigger fish to fry.

I guess it really bugs me because Simpson knows who they are and where that 'stuff' is now! It should be returned to the rightful owners; and if that now means the Goldman/Brown families so be it.

I guess it doesn't really matter now but it does drive one crazy. IIRC didn't Yale turn in the rest of the booty? How'd it get to FLA if that's where Yales office is.

Also, can someone set me straight. I watched 98% of the trial so I did miss some. Didn't the PROS mention that the items taken are not ALL accounted for? I swear I heard that but I can't find verification of it either way.