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what happens now?
I have alot of questions. The house he has in Kendall Florida, whose name is it in? what happens to it now? Who has been supporting him all these year? He obviously will be going away for LONG time. (ha ha)....so what assests he has been hiding all these years, what happens to that? Quess all the people who have been living off of him will have to get jobs? LOL
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10-05-2008, 09:27 PM
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I have alot of questions. The house he has in Kendall Florida, whose name is it in? what happens to it now? Who has been supporting him all these year? He obviously will be going away for LONG time. (ha ha)....so what assests he has been hiding all these years, what happens to that? Quess all the people who have been living off of him will have to get jobs? LOL
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NSM - I'll have to bite on your question:
1)who's been supporting him
2)Guess all the ppl who have been living off of him will have to get jobs.
Uh - which is it?
1)OJ has an annuity as well as a 22-25k (per month) pension. I doubt he's destitute. Do you make that much each month? I sure don't - not even a YEAR!.
2)His friends are young enough and make a living, no problem....unless it's a female or family relative - moochers are always problems.
3)Going away for a LONG TIME? Nah - maybe 10-20yrs, (JMHO).
The only thing taken from OJ will be his voting rights and freedom for however long he's sentenced....if at all. He still has appeal rights.
And whatever else a convicted felon cannot do.
Not such a shabby deal afterall, huh?
Anyway, don't worry about the OJ, he'll survive, but not the way he is accustomed to.
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NSM - I'll have to bite on your question:
1)who's been supporting him
2)Guess all the ppl who have been living off of him will have to get jobs.
Uh - which is it?
1)OJ has an annuity as well as a 22-25k (per month) pension. I doubt he's destitute. Do you make that much each month? I sure don't - not even a YEAR!.
2)His friends are young enough and make a living, no problem....unless it's a female or family relative - moochers are always problems.
3)Going away for a LONG TIME? Nah - maybe 10-20yrs, (JMHO).
The only thing taken from OJ will be his voting rights and freedom for however long he's sentenced....if at all. He still has appeal rights.
And whatever else a convicted felon cannot do.
Not such a shabby deal afterall, huh?
Anyway, don't worry about the OJ, he'll survive, but not the way he is accustomed to.
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WOW. I did not know that he got that much of a pension. Unbelievable! Who gets his pension while he is in jail? Does it stop?
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WOW. I did not know that he got that much of a pension. Unbelievable! Who gets his pension while he is in jail? Does it stop?
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He will still receve his pension while he is in prison. He will most likely appoint someone to over see his finances if he does not already have that in place. Inmates who were receiving social security pensions before they were convicted continue to receive that pension while serving time.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O._J._Simpson
Simpson has had two other legal problems, the first involving back taxes and the second piracy of satellite television. The State of California claims Simpson owes $1.44 million in past due taxes. A tax lien was filed in his case on September 1, 1999.
In March 2004, satellite television network DirecTV, Inc. accused Simpson in a Miami federal court of using illegal electronic devices to pirate its broadcast signals. The company later won a US$25,000 judgment, and Simpson was ordered to pay US$33,678 in attorneys' fees and costs.
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To answer the question of this thread;
I do believe that it will come down to two things..:
1) How Judge Glass assigns the sentences as outlined. There is such a wide range of possibilities including # of years..along with Concurrent and Consecutive sentences..so it's up to what she finds appropriate.
2) Appellate Court and what they decide is or is not at issue...the most harmul to this case would be to overturn..thus new trial..the other would be to ind no issues to appeal findings.
That about covers it. It doesnt matter what talking heads say, nor what friends of defendents say, nor what posters want or wish things to be..It's all in the hands of the "Courts"..
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What Issues can the Criminal Appellate Court hear?
An Appellate Court, like the Nevada Supreme Court, decides questions of law, such as whether the district court judge applied the law correctly in the case. The Appellate Court does not hear testimony or retry cases. An appeal from a district court judgment is decided based on the written record from the original trial or proceeding. Issues brought to an Appellate Court for review commonly include claims such as an incorrect ruling on admissibility of evidence, incorrect application of a law or regulation, improper jury instructions, and insufficient evidence to support the verdict.
The Criminal Appeal Process
To begin the appeal process, a written notice of appeal is filed with the clerk of the court in which the proceeding took place. In Nevada, a person must file a notice of appeal with the District Court Clerk within 30 days of the conclusion of the underlying case. Once a notice of appeal is filed, transcripts of the underlying proceedings are prepared. All parties are notified once the record on appeal has been filed with the Appellate Court.
From the date the record was filed, the appellant has a specified period of time within which to file an opening brief. In Nevada, the time is typically 120 days. A “brief” is a written argument that an attorney prepares for the court. It details the issues raised by the appellant, including challenges to the District Court ruling or findings, and refers to applicable statues (laws) and previous case decisions to support a position. The respondent is then given an opportunity to file a brief in response and then the appellant my file a reply brief.
On some occasions, a panel of justices will hear oral arguments. A member of the panel will then prepare and file an opinion, which is a written statement of the Court’s decision.
http://www.legalmann.com/CriminalAppeals.html
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10-20-2008, 01:34 PM
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Bump
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10-20-2008, 01:51 PM
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What Issues can the Criminal Appellate Court hear?
An Appellate Court, like the Nevada Supreme Court, decides questions of law, such as whether the district court judge applied the law correctly in the case. The Appellate Court does not hear testimony or retry cases. An appeal from a district court judgment is decided based on the written record from the original trial or proceeding. Issues brought to an Appellate Court for review commonly include claims such as an incorrect ruling on admissibility of evidence, incorrect application of a law or regulation, improper jury instructions, and insufficient evidence to support the verdict.
The Criminal Appeal Process
To begin the appeal process, a written notice of appeal is filed with the clerk of the court in which the proceeding took place. In Nevada, a person must file a notice of appeal with the District Court Clerk within 30 days of the conclusion of the underlying case. Once a notice of appeal is filed, transcripts of the underlying proceedings are prepared. All parties are notified once the record on appeal has been filed with the Appellate Court.
From the date the record was filed, the appellant has a specified period of time within which to file an opening brief. In Nevada, the time is typically 120 days. A “brief” is a written argument that an attorney prepares for the court. It details the issues raised by the appellant, including challenges to the District Court ruling or findings, and refers to applicable statues (laws) and previous case decisions to support a position. The respondent is then given an opportunity to file a brief in response and then the appellant my file a reply brief.
On some occasions, a panel of justices will hear oral arguments. A member of the panel will then prepare and file an opinion, which is a written statement of the Court’s decision.
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Thank you cornblossom for this. Looks like OJ will have already been sentenced by the time this is heard and denied.
The question I have is will OJ last until he is sentenced. He's not doing so well.
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Thank you cornblossom for this. Looks like OJ will have already been sentenced by the time this is heard and denied.
The question I have is will OJ last until he is sentenced. He's not doing so well.
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It is not unusual for appeals to take years before they are heard. And the vast majority never make it beyond the motion filing status, they are denied for lack of grounds.
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10-20-2008, 02:15 PM
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It is not unusual for appeals to take years before they are heard. And the vast majority never make it beyond the motion filing status, they are denied for lack of grounds.
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Good to know.
There are no grounds for a new trial in this case. Put right on the denied pile.
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A very real possibility that is getting lost in this, is that Fromong is going to have his life turned inside out also. He has got big troubles.
It came out in the trial that he may have laundered hundreds of thousands of dollars, or even millions, through his personal bank accounts for Simpson during the time he was his "manager." Also may include setting up offshore hiding places. As well as hiding assets for him.
Almost everybody involved in this case, including the victims, are sucked into legal jeopardy.
I don't think there has ever been another case more documented with the twists and turns of this one.
It will be known as "tape-gate."
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10-20-2008, 02:27 PM
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A very real possibility that is getting lost in this, is that Fromong is going to have his life turned inside out also. He has got big troubles.
It came out in the trial that he may have laundered hundreds of thousands of dollars, or even millions, through his personal bank accounts for Simpson during the time he was his "manager." Also may include setting up offshore hiding places. As well as hiding assets for him.
Almost everybody involved in this case, including the victims, are sucked into legal jeopardy.
I don't think there has ever been another case more documented with the twists and turns of this one.
It will be known as "tape-gate."
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You mean Mike Gilbert? Fromong is the self-described former sports memorabilia guy.
LOL@tape gate. Can't wait for the book.
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WOW. I did not know that he got that much of a pension. Unbelievable! Who gets his pension while he is in jail? Does it stop?
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OJ will probably find all kinds of interesting new people wanting a piece of his pension in return for favors for as long as he's in prison! OJ likes to talk; he can't spend 10-20 years in solitary! He's gonna be buying a lot of cigarettes & candy bars.
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10-20-2008, 03:07 PM
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OJ will probably find all kinds of interesting new people wanting a piece of his pension in return for favors for as long as he's in prison! OJ likes to talk; he can't spend 10-20 years in solitary! He's gonna be buying a lot of cigarettes & candy bars.
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So true OJ likes to talk. He can't keep his big mouth shut and never could. OJ will make some new friends that can get him drugs.
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pre-sentence psych report
Anybody besides me hoping for the chance to see OJ's pre-sentencing psychiatric report?
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10-20-2008, 03:14 PM
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Anybody besides me hoping for the chance to see OJ's pre-sentencing psychiatric report?
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I posted the other day I'd like to see it.
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You mean Mike Gilbert? Fromong is the self-described former sports memorabilia guy.
LOL@tape gate. Can't wait for the book.
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Yeah, Gilbert is in legal jeopardy.
But I could swear I remember something in the trial that puts Fromong on the hot seat too. Because I remember thinking, "oh wow", now even he's in for troubles too. I could be overstating the amounts involved though.
But Fromong was really angry and swearing a blue streak on one of the tapes somewhere about how much he did for OJ and how much he helped him. And the different ways. And then he said Simpson was going to pay for this.
In fact, Fromong testified for Simpson at his civil trial in the sentencing hearing trying to save him from getting a big judgment to pay.
Trouble is we don't have any full transcripts of this trial. Why the %%?## is that? Transcripts were available every day for the murder trial if I remember weren't they?
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10-20-2008, 03:40 PM
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If I remember correctly Fromong said he had helped OJ with hiding funds in the past also.
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In offshore accounts as well? Why am I drawing a blank on him stating this? All I remember him saying "I was OJs friend" like a broken record. Yeah, we know. Look what good it did ya Fromong?
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10-20-2008, 03:48 PM
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Did I miss something? Yale said he was "disappointed and a bit meloncholy". Has there been another report that he isn't doing too well? I'm sure he's lonely, but I can just imagine him doing his "affable" behaviour with the guards.
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Yale makes no sense since he isn't there visiting him. Who is meloncholy behind bars?
OJ is not allowed to have his daily drug intake like he's used to on the outside.
OJ: AGONY AND NO ECSTASY
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/oj_s...elebrity/65588
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In offshore accounts as well? Why am I drawing a blank on him stating this? All I remember him saying "I was OJs friend" like a broken record. Yeah, we know. Look what good it did ya Fromong?
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Fromong was on the tape saying he'd set up offshore accounts for OJ.
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The hearing on November 19th could be the most lucrative thing for the Goldmans since getting the book rights.
The reason is not only because of the ring, but that ever elusive suit.
The one Simpson was wearing at the murder trial verdict. It's supposed to be extremely valuable and I think Simpson was yelling about that in the room during the robbery.
Beardsley knows where that is. It is being kept under wraps in storage somewhere by guess who--Bruce Fromong. This was revealed in the very interesting tape #5 where Riccio is taping Beardsley.
He also tells Riccio about the "pictures" that OJ allegedly was so interested in. Apparently they have a huge value too on the collector market and he knows who has them. It's a manager of a "big" recording rock star. He says there are thousands and thousands of undeveloped negatives.
Big Al is even reluctant to tell Riccio who the guy is because it's supposed to be kept so hush hush. But Riccio keeps goading him on and it looks to me by the tape transcript that he finally whispers the name to Riccio. One thing for sure though, Beardsley knows where it is and who's got all that.
Here's the goodies.... http://www.clarkcountycourts.us/medi...ing_File_5.pdf
I recommed you read the whole thing. It will be a great refresher course to bring you up to speed on what Beardsley faces in the hearing. But if you just want to see the juicy parts about what I referenced above, it's pages 15 and 22.
This tape could be introduced into evidence when they get him on the stand and if he doesn't spill the beans, he can go right from the Chino jail he's in when they let him out, to one Judge Rosenberg has ready for him.
Damn, I hope they televise this one too....go get em Fred!!
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The hearing on November 19th could be the most lucrative thing for the Goldmans since getting the book rights.
The reason is not only because of the ring, but that ever elusive suit.
The one Simpson was wearing at the murder trial verdict. It's supposed to be extremely valuable and I think Simpson was yelling about that in the room during the robbery.
Beardsley knows where that is. It is being kept under wraps in storage somewhere by guess who--Bruce Fromong. This was revealed in the very interesting tape #5 where Riccio is taping Beardsley.
He also tells Riccio about the "pictures" that OJ allegedly was so interested in. Apparently they have a huge value too on the collector market and he knows who has them. It's a manager of a "big" recording rock star. He says there are thousands and thousands of undeveloped negatives.
Big Al is even reluctant to tell Riccio who the guy is because it's supposed to be kept so hush hush. But Riccio keeps goading him on and it looks to me by the tape transcript that he finally whispers the name to Riccio. One thing for sure though, Beardsley knows where it is and who's got all that.
Here's the goodies.... http://www.clarkcountycourts.us/medi...ing_File_5.pdf
I recommed you read the whole thing. It will be a great refresher course to bring you up to speed on what Beardsley faces in the hearing. But if you just want to see the juicy parts about what I referenced above, it's pages 15 and 22.
This tape could be introduced into evidence when they get him on the stand and if he doesn't spill the beans, he can go right from the Chino jail he's in when they let him out, to one Judge Rosenberg has ready for him.
Damn, I hope they televise this one too....go get em Fred!!
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I don't think the Goldman's will have a claim on the suit. It's pretty clear it was given by OJ to Gilbert long BEFORE the civil suit judgement. It was oreviously offered - for sale - to the Goldmans and they passed. I also doubt the family photos will be within the Goldman's reach. Personal family photos would probably not be something attachable by the civil judgement. If they were legally acquired through purchase of items sold at auction due to non-payment of storage fees, they will belong to the legal purchaser. But I imagine there are lots of items that were listed on those original turnover orders that Beardsley, Fromong and Gilbert can help locate. Whether the Goldmans can collect money in newfound "hidden" accounts will be a matter for the courts to determine.
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I don't think the Goldman's will have a claim on the suit. It's pretty clear it was given by OJ to Gilbert long BEFORE the civil suit judgement. It was oreviously offered - for sale - to the Goldmans and they passed. I also doubt the family photos will be within the Goldman's reach. Personal family photos would probably not be something attachable by the civil judgement. If they were legally acquired through purchase of items sold at auction due to non-payment of storage fees, they will belong to the legal purchaser. But I imagine there are lots of items that were listed on those original turnover orders that Beardsley, Fromong and Gilbert can help locate. Whether the Goldmans can collect money in newfound "hidden" accounts will be a matter for the courts to determine.
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http://www.celebritymooch.com/oj-sim...suit-for-sale/
OJ Simpson News: “Not Guilty” Suit for Sale
Here's a priceless link.
Maybe OJ wanted that suit back for future court trials like it's magic or something.
From the looks of then and now, I'd say he'd of have to let it out a bit and tampering with it may just have caused the "magic" to poof.
Someone a while back asked about the look on Kardashians face when OJ got the "not guilty" verdict . Well there it is. I find Simpsons look to read "suckers"
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I don't think the Goldman's will have a claim on the suit. It's pretty clear it was given by OJ to Gilbert long BEFORE the civil suit judgement. It was oreviously offered - for sale - to the Goldmans and they passed. I also doubt the family photos will be within the Goldman's reach. Personal family photos would probably not be something attachable by the civil judgement. If they were legally acquired through purchase of items sold at auction due to non-payment of storage fees, they will belong to the legal purchaser. But I imagine there are lots of items that were listed on those original turnover orders that Beardsley, Fromong and Gilbert can help locate. Whether the Goldmans can collect money in newfound "hidden" accounts will be a matter for the courts to determine.
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You may be right in that ordinarily asset hiding has to be closer to the forseeable judgment.
But I don't think this case is so clear. There were attempts by these players to keep the possessions of Simpson out of the hands of many for a long time. Fraudulent moving of money through secretive channels and deliberate camouflage at every turn.
Simpson disputes the right of ownership on everything. And I don't think anybody is going to be able to produce receipts that he gave or sold anything to anybody. That is going to make a very gray area here.
Imagine if the suit and the pictures had been in that hotel room and they left in that white SUV?
Beardsley knows the history because he was in that circle with Simpson in LA. And he can be grilled about it, thanks to Riccio recording it for posterity.
In fact he says in the tape that OJ wanted him to bring stuff down to Florida for him.
Stay tuned, this is a muddy one.
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You may be right in that ordinarily asset hiding has to be closer to the forseeable judgment.
But I don't think this case is so clear. There were attempts by these players to keep the possessions of Simpson out of the hands of many for a long time. Fraudulent moving of money through secretive channels and deliberate camouflage at every turn.
Simpson disputes the right of ownership on everything. And I don't think anybody is going to be able to produce receipts that he gave or sold anything to anybody. That is going to make a very gray area here.
Imagine if the suit and the pictures had been in that hotel room and they left in that white SUV?
Beardsley knows the history because he was in that circle with Simpson in LA. And he can be grilled about it, thanks to Riccio recording it for posterity.
In fact he says in the tape that OJ wanted him to bring stuff down to Florida for him.
Stay tuned, this is a muddy one.
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IMO OJ is Beardsley 's imaginary BFF.
The little he knows he embellishes on.
I don't think Beardsley is capable of telling the truth as he can't figure out real from imaginery things.
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OH man that's Yales next strategy regarding that ring and OJ.
Beardsley thinks he has it and OJ gave it to him (imaginery.)
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Oh I agree, Al is no shining example of moral values or any values. But he knows a lot.
He knows Bruce, knows Gilbert, knows the guy who has the pictures, he was chumming with OJ in his house and willing to be his stooge on call as needed. Has the inside scoop on a whole lot.
As decrepit in life as he is, he was around a lot of the celebrity action in the same way Riccio and Fromong were.
He even has the distinction of being chased around the Von's parking lot by a drunk Anna Nicole Smith. I think his memory is probably pretty chuck full.
I see a book in the works if he ever gets out of jail
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Oh I agree, Al is no shining example of moral values or any values. But he knows a lot.
He knows Bruce, knows Gilbert, knows the guy who has the pictures, he was chumming with OJ in his house and willing to be his stooge on call as needed. Has the inside scoop on a whole lot.
As decrepit in life as he is, he was around a lot of the celebrity action in the same way Riccio and Fromong were.
He even has the distinction of being chased around the Von's parking lot by a drunk Anna Nicole Smith. I think his memory is probably pretty chuck full.
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IIRC, that was Riccio in the drunk parking lot ordeal and that was just happenstance.
Beardsley interjected himself onto others. To my knowledge Beardsley has only been to OJ's house twice. Once he got into a charity event and the other with Mike Gilbert. I'm not even sure if he was there with
Mike Gilbert as my only source to this is what I've read quoted or taped from Beardsley.
He liked to throw names out so unless someone else corraborates anything he says I just have to roll my eyes at anything that comes out of his mouth.
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IIRC, that was Riccio in the drunk parking lot ordeal and that was just happenstance.
Beardsley interjected himself onto others. To my knowledge Beardsley has only been to OJ's house twice. Once he got into a charity event and the other with Mike Gilbert. I'm not even sure if he was there with
Mike Gilbert as my only source to this is what I've read quoted or taped from Beardsley.
He liked to throw names out so unless someone else corraborates anything he says I just have to roll my eyes at anything that comes out of his mouth.
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No my friend, read tape 5. http://www.clarkcountycourts.us/medi...ing_File_5.pdf
Names...dates....places. .... He would have to have a pretty unlikely imagination to make up the elaborate descriptive details. Especially when he had no clue he was being taped.
I'm no more prescient than anybody else though and just giving my two cents.
We'll just have to let this chess match play out and see where it goes.
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No my friend, read tape 5. http://www.clarkcountycourts.us/medi...ing_File_5.pdf
Names...dates....places. .... He would have to have a pretty unlikely imagination to make up the elaborate descriptive details. Especially when he had no clue he was being taped.
I'm no more prescient than anybody else though and just giving my two cents.
We'll just have to let this chess match play out and see where it goes.
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Yep your right " Beardsley did claim that, not Riccio.
I must have linked it to Riccio because all the stuff Riccio sold after Smith died.
And that is that exact kind of BS I would expect from Beardsley "dropping names and detailed events that included him with celebs" especially something to do with Anna Nicole to blather about to Riccio.
Riccio made a ton off of Smith's personal effects, tapes, diaries etc.
Beardsley regaling to him his brush with Anna Nicole. I did a quick search and found nothing regarding a lawsuit or pics Beardsley sold regarding Smith w/national enquirer or Judge Judy.
Now I didn't do a thorough search but wouldn't because the only person to say this happened is Beardsley. I don't believe he knows 1% of the people he says he knows or has done business with unless it is backed up by the person Beardsley claims to know. I think he's a psychopath, wanna be famous, in with celebs mentality and he is not.
Just my personal opinion.
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10-21-2008, 06:15 PM
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Everybody seems to want to be Goldman's buddy..
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008...aits-its-fate/
"McClinton, a Simpson accomplice who pleaded guilty in the crime, didn’t want to sell something to the Goldmans. He wanted to give them a gift: two of Simpson’s footballs in glass cases and a jersey, Cook recalls. McClinton reportedly offered to personally deliver the goods to the San Francisco attorney. The Goldmans didn’t take him up on the offer. His attorney did not return calls from the Sun.
Cook thinks this kindness would have found its way into a pre-sentencing plea for mercy.
“His ulterior motive was to ingratiate himself with the Goldmans,” he said. “He pled guilty, he has sentencing, he had a weapon in his hands when it happened, and the judge can send him away for some time.”"
Oh, they are such a giving, precious group.
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10-21-2008, 07:16 PM
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http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008...aits-its-fate/
"McClinton, a Simpson accomplice who pleaded guilty in the crime, didn’t want to sell something to the Goldmans. He wanted to give them a gift: two of Simpson’s footballs in glass cases and a jersey, Cook recalls. McClinton reportedly offered to personally deliver the goods to the San Francisco attorney. The Goldmans didn’t take him up on the offer. His attorney did not return calls from the Sun.
Cook thinks this kindness would have found its way into a pre-sentencing plea for mercy.
“His ulterior motive was to ingratiate himself with the Goldmans,” he said. “He pled guilty, he has sentencing, he had a weapon in his hands when it happened, and the judge can send him away for some time.”"
Oh, they are such a giving, precious group.
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What a great find. I hadn't read this before.
What do you think his motive was? Money?
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10-21-2008, 07:39 PM
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What a great find. I hadn't read this before.
What do you think his motive was? Money?
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ROFL!
LENIENCY
This was after the boys were popped that this grand idea came about.
They all had good ideas, cop pleas, admit to their part, do what they can to make restitution and if you can go above that do it.
I think McClinton was looking at the most out of his plea deal, then Cashmore. 5-7 years sticks in my head for some reason, to lazy to look back right now.
Now should you thumb your nose, twasn't me, prove it AND IT DOES GET PROVEN lets say the sentence is more in line with breakfast, lunch and dinner on the state for a long, long time.
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10-21-2008, 07:46 PM
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ROFL!
LENIENCY
This was after the boys were popped that this grand idea came about.
They all had good ideas, cop pleas, admit to their part, do what they can to make restitution and if you can go above that do it.
I think McClinton was looking at the most out of his plea deal, then Cashmore. 5-7 years sticks in my head for some reason, to lazy to look back right now.
Now should you thumb your nose, twasn't me, prove it AND IT DOES GET PROVEN lets say the sentence is more in line with breakfast, lunch and dinner on the state for a long, long time.
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Duh to me
ROFL Sorry, stuck on the money thing. That is what this was all about anyway.
You're right. Good thing the Goldman's didn't fall for it.
I'd be happier if they were stuck on an island together with no food. Save the tax payers money.
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Duh to me
ROFL Sorry, stuck on the money thing. That is what this was all about anyway.
You're right. Good thing the Goldman's didn't fall for it.
I'd be happier if they were stuck on an island together with no food. Save the tax payers money.

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Talking about good citizens and saving some money...this group offered to help financially strapped OJ back in '96. I love this.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9605/29/oj.inv...ion/index.html
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Looking at the SanFrancisco OJ connection, I see that OJ owned his mother's house at 101 Apollo St. in SF at the time the civil udgement was awarded. It was put up for Sheriff's sale in October 2000, at which time Goldman said the sale of the home had nothing to do with his judgement, but was a result of the guardianship dispute between OJ & the Browns. When Mrs. Simpson was found dead in the home the following year an article mentions that the sale was called off after a deal was brokered to satisfy Marjorie Fuller, one of OJ's lawyers and that the deal was brokered by a family friend and former SF Supervisor Amos Brown.
I chuckled when I read "Mrs. Simpson would come down here and talk to all the other seniors, motivate them, tell them it's not that bad," Davis said. "And they believed her."" Heck, compared to a woman whose son that comes to visit her is a double murderer, I'd guess most people would think they don't have it so bad!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...type=printable
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...0/MN184960.DTL
What I was surprised to see, though, was that 101 Apollo St. is the address of his sister (and cohort) Shirley on one of the defense witness lists for this case. I can see Goldman not wanting to boot a little old lady, but it looks like somehow OJ found a way to keep one of his assets (in California no less!) in the family. I guess his mom having Skip Taft (OJ's friend and attorney in 1997) for an attorney during the eviction helped. And it's not like attaching the condo wasn't considered early on...
http://www.cnn.com/US/9702/07/simpson.pm/index.html
"Simpson's sister, Shirley Baker, earlier cursed plaintiff attorney Peter Gelblum and stomped out of court after he suggested Simpson could raise money by selling the San Francisco condo he bought for his elderly mother."
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