Friday, 10/3/08 - Day 109

[n/t]

Morning all

Thursday, Casey's attorney said it's not in her best interest to tell what she knows about where Caylee is.

"It does her no good to show her cards to give the prosecution any advantage they have to put her away for life," Jose Baez said.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html


This sounds like he's admitting her guilt. Any thoughts?

[Kathlb]

Good Morning and thanks for the Friday thread. I can't believe I'm first, that's a first. (That's me to me) :-)

Per your post... I still can't believe he said that. Unless I am missing it entirely, to me that means that she has much to hide and he just admitted it. I feel an arrest is coming soon, everyone seems to be moving toward that in my mind. And it can't come soon enough for me. MOO

Caylee, we love you.

[bballgrl]

Originally Posted by Kathlb

Good Morning and thanks for the Friday thread. I can't believe I'm first, that's a first. (That's me to me) :-)

Per your post... I still can't believe he said that. Unless I am missing it entirely, to me that means that she has much to hide and he just admitted it. I feel an arrest is coming soon, everyone seems to be moving toward that in my mind. And it can't come soon enough for me. MOO

Caylee, we love you.

I completely agree Kath. Sounds to me like he is saying that she has something to hide that the prosecution could use against her. If she is not guilty or at least INVOLVED in some way... why can't she talk?

[ilovemylife]

Seems LE knows for a fact Caylee is dead, until recently the said they believed her to be dead. I agree, alive people do not leave decomp in trunks.

[num1barb]

Originally Posted by Flmom

Yep and Casey is named suspect..which means all fingers point to her.

Joran is a suspect in the NH case and he got away with it..I hope Casey doesnt become another Joran with adoring fans slobbering all over her.

Nah, I don't think that princesspantsonfire will be the new joran. LE in florida are a LOT sharper than LE in aruba, IMO.

I believe princess will be the new scott! as in petersonwest.

[marinewife5]

Originally Posted by Flmom

Believe it or not Scott Peterson has fans who write him in jail. Lonely women I guess.

I just Casey doesnt get her a fan club in prison.

Men don't like to write like women do. I can't see her being the belle of the (cell)block...it's one thing to be a criminal...it's a whole new level to murder your child.

jmo

[Kathlb]

Originally Posted by Flmom

Yep and Casey is named suspect..which means all fingers point to her.

Joran is a suspect in the NH case and he got away with it..I hope Casey doesnt become another Joran with adoring fans slobbering all over her.

IMO It'll never happen in this case. Too many including LE are mortified at what she did to that innocent baby. jmho

[GrandmaGA]

Originally Posted by Kathlb

IMO It'll never happen in this case. Too many including LE are mortified at what she did to that innocent baby. jmho

What did she do to Caylee?

[GrandmaGA]

Originally Posted by bchand

The late crew last night came up with their estimates of When Casey Will Be Arrested (along with big wagers.)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...estTable-1.jpg

How sad to make this a game about a child. Again, a study of human nature.

[shelbar53]

Originally Posted by GrandmaGA

How sad to make this a game about a child. Again, a study of human nature.

Well her lawyer baez made it a game when he said it wouldnt in her best interst to show her cards...what are they playng poker, gin rummy?

[bchand]

Originally Posted by GrandmaGA

IMO betting on when she will be arrested IS a game and pretty sick considering we are talking about a child here. I really don't care what kind of pills you think I should take, I will state my opinion without pills thanks.

Well goodie for you Grandma. I have respect for certain posters and found it interesting to hear WHEN and why they thought Casey would be arrested for the murder.

We certainly know you have no problem stating your opinion but seem to resent anyone else who is free to do the same.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally Posted by bchand

Well goodie for you Grandma. I have respect for certain posters and found it interesting to hear WHEN and why they thought Casey would be arrested for the murder.

We certainly know you have no problem stating your opinion but seem to resent anyone else who is free to do the same.

And goodie for you that you thought it "interesting to hear WHEN and why they thought Casey would be arrested for the murder".

EVERYONE can and does state their opinion and when someone doesn't agree with the majority all hades breaks out and they are called trolls, ignore them, bla, bla, bla. Oh well enjoy the games.

[GrannyB]

Originally Posted by Barefooted

Hope I got the # of days right. Good Morning!!

I really don't want you hating me but ahhh it's day 109. Why me

[GrannyB]

Originally Posted by Barefooted

I'm never a hater.

LOL I know you're not. And thanks for the coffee. I need it.

[ilovemylife]

Good morning everyone!

For Caylee

[BJames]

Good morning to all

I have debated with myself about sharing some experience I have had here, and I finally decided to do so....it is personal experience and not 'text book'.
For anyone considering the theory that Caylee drowned?
My experience was with a 2 year old female...twenty years ago this month. When a person is drowning their body takes in less and less water as oxygen deprivation sets it, at that point the lungs begin to break down into dead cells and are 'washed out' of the body. As the body starts rejecting further fluid it expells the cells that have 'died' as the organs start shutting down, be they kidneys, lungs etc.
My reason for 'sharing' this?
If indeed Caylee did drown there is a very good chance that the dead cells from her body shutting down would create not only a smell (eventually), but her body itself would begin to break down very quickly.
I am not saying that this is indeed what happened to this little girl, I am explaining the process that could have/most likely did happen if this scenerio is fact.

Just my opinion of course...

[ilovemylife]

For anyone who has not heard about the 2 new areas they are searching.


http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html

Cadaver Dogs Used To Search Wooded Areas For Caylee Anthony

Originally Posted by n/t

Morning all

Thursday, Casey's attorney said it's not in her best interest to tell what she knows about where Caylee is.

"It does her no good to show her cards to give the prosecution any advantage they have to put her away for life," Jose Baez said.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html


This sounds like he's admitting her guilt. Any thoughts?

Morning n/t

Is a really odd thing for an attorney to say especially before there are any charges that that can "put her away for life" IMO

[GrannyB]

Originally Posted by KKKKKKatie

Morning n/t

Is a really odd thing for an attorney to say especially before there are any charges that that can "put her away for life" IMO

This whole case is odd. Her lawyer fits right in.

Originally Posted by GrannyB

This whole case is odd. Her lawyer fits right in.

LOL Ain't that the truth!

[n/t]

Originally Posted by GrannyB

This whole case is odd. Her lawyer fits right in.

I totally agree. I wonder how any of them sleep at night.

Baez knows exactly what happened to little Caylee.

[GrannyB]

Originally Posted by n/t

I totally agree. I wonder how any of them sleep at night.

Baez knows exactly what happened to little Caylee.

Maybe he wants off the case. If he's court appointed that statement ought to do it for him. Or if someone is paying him and he wants off same thing. That statement should do it for him.,

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally Posted by GrannyB

Maybe he wants off the case. If he's court appointed that statement ought to do it for him. Or if someone is paying him and he wants off same thing. That statement should do it for him.,

if casey has told him the truth, it's my belief that he's bound to ask for a dismissal...

because he's stuck between the legal aspect of staying quiet for client confidentiality...
and the legal aspect of withholding information on an ongoing case.

don't quote me, b/c i'm not 100 percent sure...
but i think at that point, he has to ask for a dismissal and let another attorney take over



can anyone clarify that

Am I correct in saying that there have been no more protesters at the Anthony house? If so, I wonder if that last altercation with Cindy scared them all away?

[n/t]

Originally Posted by KKKKKKatie

Am I correct in saying that there have been no more protesters at the Anthony house? If so, I wonder if that last altercation with Cindy scared them all away?

Which one? The baseball bat? lol

I think people are still so disgusted with all of them but frankly, I don't know what any protesting would do except innocent people perhaps getting hurt and/or protestors getting arrested.

We just have to continue to hope that justice will be done and she will be put away for life and/or face the death penalty.

[GrannyB]

Originally Posted by Barefooted

I was surprised to see some out on the sidewalk out front last Sunday night during the vigil. Did the Guardian Angels leave, who had come down to protect the neighborhood?

I have both threads open. Are we staying here. Ilovemylife just got to the other one.

[Lynden1000]

Originally Posted by KKKKKKatie

Am I correct in saying that there have been no more protesters at the Anthony house? If so, I wonder if that last altercation with Cindy scared them all away?

I don't know about the protesters, but locally the interest in this case has started to wane. It no longer occupies the front page of every newspaper and it's not the top story every night on the news. Some nights there is no mention of it at all. Overall, the community has just grown weary and, I hate to say it, bored.

Maybe that's a good thing. The absence of public spectacle might allow LE to do their jobs without cameras and constant distractions.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally Posted by n/t

I totally agree. I wonder how any of them sleep at night.

Baez knows exactly what happened to little Caylee.

that's what i don't understand, i've never understood.

sure he knows, he has to know

this guy obviously isn't a father.

i work for an attorney, and thank goodness he has morals...
casey would have been dismissed at first glance as a client.

believe me, i understand doing your 'job' and i understand the 'legals' of confidentiality, and the legal ethics---i get that.

but no job would have me sacrificing my personal ethics, morals, values...to save a low life mother who killed her precious child.

i couldn't sleep at night, i couldn't live with myself.

i'd turn over my law license, sign up on the prosecution side and at least know i lost my career for doing what was right...
and that my justice was truly served as the voice for the REAL innocent

Caylee

[SavannahStar]

Originally Posted by WinnieLeigh7

that's what i don't understand, i've never understood.

sure he knows, he has to know

this guy obviously isn't a father.

i work for an attorney, and thank goodness he has morals...
casey would have been dismissed at first glance as a client.

believe me, i understand doing your 'job' and i understand the 'legals' of confidentiality, and the legal ethics---i get that.

but no job would have me sacrificing my personal ethics, morals, values...to save a low life mother who killed her precious child.

i couldn't sleep at night, i couldn't live with myself.

i'd turn over my law license, sign up on the prosecution side and at least know i lost my career for doing what was right...
and that my justice was truly served as the voice for the REAL innocent

Caylee

At the outset let me say that I also believe Casey killed Caylee. But I'm curious if you mean that you believe she (or others who have killed children) should not have attorneys at all?

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~

Actually, Baez is a father.

But just like some of us have a job and have to separate that from our other roles in life, he has to do the same as a Defense Attorney.

The conclusions that are jumped to on this board are ridiculous, because Baez has in no way stated or even hinted that he knows where Caylee is.

---fingers in ears, singing lalalala---

just like the conclusion you jumped to in misreading what i said before asking for clarafication or reading further to actually see it.

i was speaking on a personal....what's in me....level.

that i couldn't choose my job over my 'real life' values in this type situation.

i know very well what he's doing is his job and i ''get that''

but again, i personally couldn't do it. but then that's why i'm not a defense attorney.
he is, there are many out there that are...good for them, it's a needed field to complete our justice system.

as for his statement, it did in fact, at least state that his client has that knowledge...therefore following the chain, he represents casey, who has that knowledge...
as he stated in the link provided.


i'm not going to argue with you, i don't come here to argue...as i find that completely ''ridiculous''.
i understand from your post-s- that you have different views from others here...i see that you like to play devil's advocate
i can actually respect that.

but please, don't come on here being disrespectful to me, or others because they don't see it ''your way'', offering nothing but negative and insulting statements.

i apologize in advance for the 'bluntness', but i've bitten my tongue so much that dang it, i'm nearly tongueless now...

NOW with that said....i'm off to ''my job''

see ya

[Amy]

Originally Posted by WinnieLeigh7

that's what i don't understand, i've never understood.

sure he knows, he has to know

this guy obviously isn't a father.

i work for an attorney, and thank goodness he has morals...
casey would have been dismissed at first glance as a client.

believe me, i understand doing your 'job' and i understand the 'legals' of confidentiality, and the legal ethics---i get that.

but no job would have me sacrificing my personal ethics, morals, values...to save a low life mother who killed her precious child.

i couldn't sleep at night, i couldn't live with myself.

i'd turn over my law license, sign up on the prosecution side and at least know i lost my career for doing what was right...
and that my justice was truly served as the voice for the REAL innocent

Caylee

IIRC, he was court appointed. They don't get the choice of dismissing their client. They have to come up with things like conflict of interest and that doesn't include conflict of morals. After all, they are DEFENSE attorneys. They defend whether the person is actually innocent or guilty. All of their clients--@ least the guilty ones--are a little low on morals, ethics and values, else they wouldn't be committing crimes.

Sometimes the defense attorney's job really is just to get the lightest sentence possible, as some clients are obviously guilty from the get-go.

Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~

Actually, Baez is a father.

The conclusions that are jumped to on this board are ridiculous, because Baez has in no way stated or even hinted that he knows where Caylee is.

Maybe not, but he sure has insinuated that his client does .

[VII]

Originally Posted by n/t

I totally agree. I wonder how any of them sleep at night.

Baez knows exactly what happened to little Caylee.

MAYbeee, she has rejected every consideration he has presented to her as to how to get a lighter sentence and he is SICK of her sitting around the office all the time. MAYbe, being bound by atty/client priveledge, this is a "backdoor" way of getting this thing going.
but then again
MAYbe, he's "backdooring" prosecution by having them to rush right on in with that statement, arrest her, he THINKS he can get her off on "not enough circumstantial evidence" and case closed?

yep,
weird

[ilovemylife]

I just can't wrap my mind around how they can be in the same house with her. I mean, if they know Caylee is gone and they're protecting Casey...which is appears that's what is going on. HOW? HOW? HOW? All I'd be doing is imagining what poor little Caylee may have went thru and how I'd never see her again. I think I'd break and just say "Take Her To JAIL!!!!" I don't think I'd be able to look at her each day. Watch her go on as if everything's fine. Knowing she was able to live her life as if she never had a daughter for an entire month. How does one do that?

Originally Posted by GrannyB

This whole case is odd. Her lawyer fits right in.

That was just tooo funny

[n/t]

Originally Posted by KKKKKKatie

Morning n/t

Is a really odd thing for an attorney to say especially before there are any charges that that can "put her away for life" IMO

Morning

Maybe he knows the inevitable will happen soon. Is that his defense? If we don't tell you what happened to Caylee then Casey won't be put away for life? It's ridiculous!

Originally Posted by n/t

Morning

Maybe he knows the inevitable will happen soon. Is that his defense? If we don't tell you what happened to Caylee then Casey won't be put away for life? It's ridiculous!

Most, if not all, of what Baez has done makes little sense to me. I know he is following the "defense attorney" party line but why would you even address charges that haven't been filed IMO Just is so odd to me

[Kathlb]

Originally Posted by KKKKKKatie

Most, if not all, of what Baez has done makes little sense to me. I know he is following the "defense attorney" party line but why would you even address charges that haven't been filed IMO Just is so odd to me

Perry Mason he's not. ROFL I am shocked and I really can't believe he is dumb enough to say that, so he must have ulterior motives such as wanting an offer from the LE again or wanting off the case as has been mentioned. I'm just soooo glad he's on her side!! jmho

Originally Posted by Kathlb

Perry Mason he's not. ROFL I am shocked and I really can't believe he is dumb enough to say that, so he must have ulterior motives such as wanting an offer from the LE again or wanting off the case as has been mentioned. I'm just soooo glad he's on her side!! jmho

Maybe you and Granny are correct. I hadn't thought about him maybe wanting off the case.....could be. I would imagine that Casey is a pain in the a$$ to work with IMO

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally Posted by TREE TREE

Well now lets think about this. IF Baez knew Caylee was alive and naturally she would have to be with an adult. Then he would know of an ongoing crime and he would be obligated to turn over the info. BUT if Caylee is dead he is under no obligation because there is no ongoing crime.

That pretty much told me a lot from the get go. So I figured he would probably shy away from the questions and media. NOT!......Now what he has said just sorta goes with what I already figured. I am only shocked that he said it.

This is still an ongoing investigation though...
So what's the fine line between the two??