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Old 10-02-2008, 06:47 AM
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Thursday, 10/2/08 - Day 108

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From reading last night's thread, Casey is now being called the official suspect.

Hope she's arrested soon.
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:49 AM
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Link for those who missed it.

Casey Anthony officially a suspect

http://www.wesh.com/news/17600620/detail.html
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Old 10-02-2008, 07:28 AM
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Good morning everyone. I don't post much here,but do a lot of reading or lurking if you will. Maybe this has been answered and I happened to have missed it~have any of Casey's friends visited her at all?

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Old 10-02-2008, 07:57 AM
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Good morning everyone. I don't post much here,but do a lot of reading or lurking if you will. Maybe this has been answered and I happened to have missed it~have any of Casey's friends visited her at all?

Caylee
Good morning!

Assuming she has any of her old friends left, I haven't seen/read anything about any of them visiting her. I think it would soon have been in the news or on the grapevine. Visiting her would constitute an open show of support, which I think is in very short supply after all the lies and everything else that's come out.

They might be blogging/messaging, though... again assuming they're still "there".

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Old 10-02-2008, 07:59 AM
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I so want today to be the day caylee is found. most of all I hope today is the day casey is put back in jail. If caylee is alive then she can get out of jail if she has not done anything to caylee. jmho
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Old 10-02-2008, 08:08 AM
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Morning!! Ex-fiance of casey anthony will be on The Today Show this morning. I guess it's Jesse Grund, but the young man they showed didn't look like him, only saw him for a second tho. Anywho, if anyone wants to watch.....

Is the board acting weird still, when I type a post it is very halting................
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Old 10-02-2008, 08:12 AM
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Good morning to you all!
No work today, so I can maybe catch up with all the reports & posts. Of course not much will happen today because accoring to Spaggedy's razor-all big turning points in criminal cases happen when I have no access to a computer.
I would love to have that proven wrong this time. Sadly. I think LE is gonna have to go without a body. After all this time, I think the chances of finding Caylees body are not good at all. And from what I'm hearing- even if it was found- it may not tell much other than the fact that she is dead. Still- it would be nice to have a miracle (They DO Happen ya' know) if for no other reason than to put Caylee to rest.
So I'll keep on hoping & praying for the very best outcome- and know that most of you are doing the same.
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Old 10-02-2008, 08:13 AM
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My feelings towards ZG are probably slanted in the respect that I am thinking of the end results. She now can try to go forth with her suit in a Civil proceeding and get the players, like the Anthonys, in sworn depos locked into a story and cross examined. Maybe even before a possible murder trial. On another show Prime News (I believe) her attorney stated they will be going after innocence or guilt. I want to see this happen.

Also I do not want the Anthonys to make a dime off of this fiasco they have helped create. There are reports they are shopping around there story,....photos, videos, etc.... and maybe this will stop them in there tracks!! If they think any monies made could be taken from them, then maybe they will give up that effort and just go back to work. It is not like they are putting any effort into finding Caylee. I also want to see that happen and to find out if and how much they may have already brought in. It sounds like ZG`s attorney is well equipped to do just that.

I wish Jesse would sue for much of the same reasons plus I really think he will always be connected with this nightmare even more so than ZG. Cindy`s MO is to name and blame innocent people to try to take the blame off her daughter. Even LE has came out and said that now. If that is how she wants to spend her time instead of dealing with facts, then maybe a nice juicy lawsuit will prove to her people in glass houses should not throw rocks!
i'm along those same lines...

i don't care if zg is in it for the money....
i don't care if every zg out there sues and gets a judgment...

maybe then, the 'books and movies' at least wont profit the family that has never put caylee first



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Old 10-02-2008, 08:23 AM
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Thanks Regina! I just sat my DVR. That means they may have clips of it on MSNBC with Clint V....not sure how he spells his name but I always like him. He seems as frustrated as we are.

No the board has not been acting any different for me but I notice plenty of others complaining last night.
Must be my cranky computer, typing is very halting. It is Jesse Grund, up next. He looks like he has lost weight.
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Old 10-02-2008, 08:30 AM
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Good morning all. and no my computer is fine. there are some days it takes a long time to refresh.
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Old 10-02-2008, 08:31 AM
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Must be my cranky computer, typing is very halting. It is Jesse Grund, up next. He looks like he has lost weight.

Good Morning. I don't think it is your cranky computer, but the Nissan ads at the top of the page. While the ad is loading, everything on my computer is in the halting mode. Once loaded, my computer is fine.

The Today Show does not start here for another 1/2 hour. Can you give us an update? TIA
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Old 10-02-2008, 08:34 AM
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they are publicy saying casey is a suspect, but according to the police documents they were refering to her as a suspect months ago. I do think she will be arrested for murder this month sometime.
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Old 10-02-2008, 08:47 AM
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Please light a Candle for Caylee

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Old 10-02-2008, 08:47 AM
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Morning all, Looks like Jesse Grund experienced the lying and stealing at the end of his relationship with Casey. $250 it is too late (LE time limitations) to charge Casey with. Maybe Casey doesn't lie and/or steal from the "stupid boys" till the end of her relationships with them. JMHO

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Old 10-02-2008, 08:50 AM
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Good Morning. I don't think it is your cranky computer, but the Nissan ads at the top of the page. While the ad is loading, everything on my computer is in the halting mode. Once loaded, my computer is fine.

The Today Show does not start here for another 1/2 hour. Can you give us an update? TIA
Thanks Des, it's very annoying cuz I type fast and this in interfering with that........

Anywho, Matt basically went over the case with Jesse, asking him about his relationship with casey. Jesse said:

He took a polygraph and passed and will be a witness
He was first attracted to casey because she carried herself well, was smart, sarcastic and fun to be around.

She stole money from him

She text messaged him, telling him she was pregnant. He did the math and didn't really think it was possible, but didn't want to miss out on anything with the baby on the off chance he was the Dad.

He pushed for the paternity test, was disappointed when he learned he wasn't the father.

When Caylee was an infant casey was a very good mother, devoted and Caylee was the center of her universe.

His relationship with her ended when the "transformation" occurred, she began to drink, lie and party. He said that as she got closer to her mother she changed and the bad behavior began. (IMO, this is an attempt to get back at cynthia for her accusing him during her interview by LE.)
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Old 10-02-2008, 08:51 AM
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I don't know if this has been discussed or not since I can't possibly READ all that has been discussed ....
I was trying to read the text transcripts last night and found them to be totally annoying in that those with AH were time/date stamped but were NOT in order of a conversation. Like there would be an 05/04/08, then the next would be 05/11/05, then back to 05/04 and etc...
When I got to the 3rd document, there were NO time/date stamps, and I'm assuming this is closer to the time of Caylee's disappearance.
Have any of you sleuths been able to rearrange that?

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Old 10-02-2008, 08:58 AM
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Good morning to you all!
No work today, so I can maybe catch up with all the reports & posts. Of course not much will happen today because accoring to Spaggedy's razor-all big turning points in criminal cases happen when I have no access to a computer.
I would love to have that proven wrong this time. Sadly. I think LE is gonna have to go without a body. After all this time, I think the chances of finding Caylees body are not good at all. And from what I'm hearing- even if it was found- it may not tell much other than the fact that she is dead. Still- it would be nice to have a miracle (They DO Happen ya' know) if for no other reason than to put Caylee to rest.
So I'll keep on hoping & praying for the very best outcome- and know that most of you are doing the same.
lol Acorn's razor will go into effect this weekend while I make some home improvements!

I think since Tim & TES have been gone, OCSO has been going back over the cell tower information and will have a more detailed course mapped for them.

I think the state will proceed even if Caylee's body is not found.
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:01 AM
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i'm along those same lines...

i don't care if zg is in it for the money....
i don't care if every zg out there sues and gets a judgment...

maybe then, the 'books and movies' at least wont profit the family that has never put caylee first



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Morning Winnie..I don't believe I was suppose to say "good morning"..anyway I did..The thing I am not understanding is this. Zg sues Casey but Casey has no money. The only people that could possibly make money off this case is Cindy and George. ZG is NOT bringing suit against these two. She has NO suit against them. Sooooo what does she expect to get except getting her Good Name back? LE has stated many times over that ZG had nothing to do with this case. Just not understanding. Good to see you posting!
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:04 AM
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Good morning everyone. I sure hope this is the day we find out where Caylee is.

Ya know. This morning i've spent the last 2 hrs searching high and low for my outside cat, who is always here like clockwork every morning. I can not find her and have checked everywhere she goes 10x over. I am worried sick about a cat and yet Casey could care less about her own child. It angers me to tears.
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:04 AM
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Morning Winnie..I don't believe I was suppose to say "good morning"..anyway I did..The thing I am not understanding is this. Zg sues Casey but Casey has no money. The only people that could possibly make money off this case is Cindy and George. ZG is NOT bringing suit against these two. She has NO suit against them. Sooooo what does she expect to get except getting her Good Name back? LE has stated many times over that ZG had nothing to do with this case. Just not understanding. Good to see you posting!
From what I understood watching NG last night is that she doesn't really exPECT to actually get any money and just wants to clear her name given the consequences she has suffered.
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:05 AM
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My feelings towards ZG are probably slanted in the respect that I am thinking of the end results. She now can try to go forth with her suit in a Civil proceeding and get the players, like the Anthonys, in sworn depos locked into a story and cross examined. Maybe even before a possible murder trial. On another show Prime News (I believe) her attorney stated they will be going after innocence or guilt. I want to see this happen.

Also I do not want the Anthonys to make a dime off of this fiasco they have helped create. There are reports they are shopping around there story,....photos, videos, etc.... and maybe this will stop them in there tracks!! If they think any monies made could be taken from them, then maybe they will give up that effort and just go back to work. It is not like they are putting any effort into finding Caylee. I also want to see that happen and to find out if and how much they may have already brought in. It sounds like ZG`s attorney is well equipped to do just that.

I wish Jesse would sue for much of the same reasons plus I really think he will always be connected with this nightmare even more so than ZG. Cindy`s MO is to name and blame innocent people to try to take the blame off her daughter. Even LE has came out and said that now. If that is how she wants to spend her time instead of dealing with facts, then maybe a nice juicy lawsuit will prove to her people in glass houses should not throw rocks!
ITA! I don't know whether it's true or not, but it's been said that the Anthonys have been offered serious sums for interviews, etc. Even if not true at this point,there's nothing to prevent them for making any book/movie/interview deals in the future, which would be apalling, IMO.

It's so reminiscent of SP!! At least, in that case, Sharon Rocha filed and won a civil suit which will prevent him from profitting from his odious crime.

But who is there to file a civil suit against Casey Anthony case, if the need for such an action arises? The Anthonys? I don't think so... I suppose there's poor little Caylee's father or his family, provided paternity will ever be irrefutably proven.

In any case, I think ZFG has every right to sue and be awarded damages for being dragged into this tragic case which has achieved not only a national, but an international profile, all because Casey decided to use Zenaida's name for the nanny she invented and used to pad up her lies.

Some people have said Casey is smart. I beg to differ. She never thought that her lies would come back to bite her in the b-hind. She was busy preening for her latest boyfriend, getting tatoos and manicures, partying and thinking up lies. With all this going on, who has time for a 2-year-old?

Anyway, I've digressed... sorry...

Bottom line: IMO ZFG should go for it, as should anyone else with reasonable cause who have suffered unduly because of Casey's lies and desperation to divert attention and suspicion to someone, ANYone, other than herself.

As always, all this is JMHO...
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:05 AM
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they are publicy saying casey is a suspect, but according to the police documents they were refering to her as a suspect months ago. I do think she will be arrested for murder this month sometime.
ITA shelbar. I believe they have it all planned out. Releasing of the interviews, stating she is now a suspect and finally..an arrest. LE has their ducks in a row at last. jmo
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:12 AM
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From what I understood watching NG last night is that she doesn't really exPECT to actually get any money and just wants to clear her name given the consequences she has suffered.
Yep. That is one thing the attorney brought up...but...for some reason I am not buying into his statement. Quess we will wait and see. Seems like a waste of time for court systems just to get one's good name back. Also ZG attorney is going to have a tough time saying Casey caused ALL her problems she has listed..medical and emplyoment. jmo
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:14 AM
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Assuming she has any of her old friends left, I haven't seen/read anything about any of them visiting her. I think it would soon have been in the news or on the grapevine. Visiting her would constitute an open show of support, which I think is in very short supply after all the lies and everything else that's come out.

They might be blogging/messaging, though... again assuming they're still "there".

JMHO...
My thoughts on this are that the ones she used to hang with are now part of the 80+ witnesses to be called,and have possibly been asked not to have anymore contact with her,OR that "they" don't want to be dragged into this horrible situation. I'm thinking that most of her friends "know" she has done something to Caylee. They are stepping away for her like a pile of steaming ****!

It has to be as bad at home as it is in jail...I simply can't see anykind of peace or kind words floating around under that roof.

Caylee
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Yep. That is one thing the attorney brought up...but...for some reason I am not buying into his statement. Quess we will wait and see. Seems like a waste of time for court systems just to get one's good name back. Also ZG attorney is going to have a tough time saying Casey caused ALL her problems she has listed..medical and emplyoment. jmo
Now that I think about it, he may have made that comment in reference to the question about whether or not she was going to testify as a witness on the child neglect charges...
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:16 AM
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ITA shelbar. I believe they have it all planned out. Releasing of the interviews, stating she is now a suspect and finally..an arrest. LE has their ducks in a row at last. jmo
I think they pretty much had it when they started releasing documents and forensic reports... It's building up, that's for sure. IMO, what they said recently about not having the evidence to charge her with murder is the lull before the storm.

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Old 10-02-2008, 09:18 AM
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Good morning all,
I really have a feeling that charges will be coming down soon. Either the LE has something from when Tim was here (not a body but something of Caylee's they found out there) or they will proceed with what they do have. I'm convinced that they have a ton of proof and evidence that they haven't shared with the public. I'm hoping it happens soon!!! And I wonder why she is allowed to be on the computer all the time. I thought that LP said no computer no phonecalls. But I guess he was wrong on that too. jmho
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Good morning everyone. I sure hope this is the day we find out where Caylee is.

Ya know. This morning i've spent the last 2 hrs searching high and low for my outside cat, who is always here like clockwork every morning. I can not find her and have checked everywhere she goes 10x over. I am worried sick about a cat and yet Casey could care less about her own child. It angers me to tears.
Aw, hope your furrybaby comes home soon ilove!
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Good morning everyone. I sure hope this is the day we find out where Caylee is.

Ya know. This morning i've spent the last 2 hrs searching high and low for my outside cat, who is always here like clockwork every morning. I can not find her and have checked everywhere she goes 10x over. I am worried sick about a cat and yet Casey could care less about her own child. It angers me to tears.
Aww, I'm sorry you're worried this morning. If she hasn't been "fixed", she may be out on a date??? Here's hoping that she comes home soon! And you're right about Casey, she couldn't care less it seems. MOO
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:26 AM
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Thanks guys.

She's fixed and everything, it's just so unlike her.


Here's to Casey officially being called a suspect and hopefully facing charges on it really soon!
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:28 AM
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Thanks Des, it's very annoying cuz I type fast and this in interfering with that........

Anywho, Matt basically went over the case with Jesse, asking him about his relationship with casey. Jesse said:

He took a polygraph and passed and will be a witness
He was first attracted to casey because she carried herself well, was smart, sarcastic and fun to be around.

She stole money from him

She text messaged him, telling him she was pregnant. He did the math and didn't really think it was possible, but didn't want to miss out on anything with the baby on the off chance he was the Dad.

He pushed for the paternity test, was disappointed when he learned he wasn't the father.

When Caylee was an infant casey was a very good mother, devoted and Caylee was the center of her universe.

His relationship with her ended when the "transformation" occurred, she began to drink, lie and party. He said that as she got closer to her mother she changed and the bad behavior began. (IMO, this is an attempt to get back at cynthia for her accusing him during her interview by LE.)

Thanks for the update.

I don't think Jesse realizes Casey's lies began the day she told him he was the father.

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Old 10-02-2008, 09:29 AM
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Re: Jesse. I always got the feeling that Casey dumped him. Or he found out she was sleeping around. I think he was still in love with her up until the time Caylee went missing and all the lies came out. Seems he was very hurt by her and now that hurt has turned to anger and disgust. Out of everyone in this case, I feel the worst for him.
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My thoughts on this are that the ones she used to hang with are now part of the 80+ witnesses to be called,and have possibly been asked not to have anymore contact with her,OR that "they" don't want to be dragged into this horrible situation. I'm thinking that most of her friends "know" she has done something to Caylee. They are stepping away for her like a pile of steaming ****!

It has to be as bad at home as it is in jail...I simply can't see anykind of peace or kind words floating around under that roof.

Caylee
Yep, after the statements they gave, it would be very improbable for them not to be called as witnesses for the prosecution.

I also think, as I've said in another post, that at least one of her friends KNOWS something that will come out and seal it. Not that they're deliberately holding back, but that maybe they haven't so far realized the importance of something that may have seemed insignificant at the time, but which now makes sense taken in the context of what they now know... a piece or two of the puzzle that will fall into place. I hope whatever it is will lead to Caylee being found and to the culprit getting their just deserts.

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When casey is arrested on murder charges, will the anthonys still be allowed to panhandle for donations at the publix? Will they still hold vigils?
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i'm along those same lines...

i don't care if zg is in it for the money....
i don't care if every zg out there sues and gets a judgment...

maybe then, the 'books and movies' at least wont profit the family that has never put caylee first



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No chance it will ever see a court if this is true.

http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=942
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:32 AM
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Well if any of the Anthonys lie in the depos for ZG`s case then she can in turn name them in the suit. Also they could be brought up on perjury charges. Hard to imagine Cindy EVER telling a true story that could result in the guilt of her daughter, either in civil or criminal court. And that's why I say this is a way to lock in there stories and cross examine them.

Now Jesse could go straight away and sue Cindy. Florida is a homestead state so no one can take there house but other monies and especially future monies if they try to turn Caylee into a cash cow.

After Ca vs Westerfield, the Vann Dames (sp?) were able to go after Westerfield insurance since he was broke and won a pretty large settlement. I do not know that can be done in Florida.

Maybe it will be ZG who will find herself facing purjury charges.

http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=942
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When casey is arrested on murder charges, will the anthonys still be allowed to panhandle for donations at the publix? Will they still hold vigils?


Don't know but that whole "Publix parking lot" scenario makes me ill. How low can they go?
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I think they pretty much had it when they started releasing documents and forensic reports... It's building up, that's for sure. IMO, what they said recently about not having the evidence to charge her with murder is the lull before the storm.

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Don't know but that whole "Publix parking lot" scenario makes me ill. How low can they go?
Obviously they can go lower than low. Surely no one is giving money to these evil monsters? To ask for money while their granddaughter is missing is completely foul. Especially since they are doing NOTHING to search for Caylee. JMO
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