9/23 - Tues Evening/Late night, Day 99

[barskin&co.]

Here we go, into the night.

Hi bar. I didn't know which thread to post on again. lol I try and wait for others to post first. Just to make sure.

[FrankieBones1]

Originally Posted by barskin&co.

Here we go, into the night.

Great timing! Was Nancy worth watching tonight? Just got in and it comes on again in a half hour or so.

[Unperson1984]

Originally Posted by Rebel Rouzer

Hi bar. I didn't know which thread to post on again. lol I try and wait for others to post first. Just to make sure.

Hi RR:

I had a full schedule this afternoon, did anything important happen?

TIA

[FrankieBones1]

Found on Nancy's website:
Just released: State's Attorney's Office releases 600 pages of documents in the case against tot mom Casey Anthony. Nancy Grace has the latest, tonight 8 & 10 ET on Headline News.

Anyone know what these are about?

[Rayosunshine]

Is the phone/text msg. doc. out? I hate to ask again, but I fear if I download too much i will crash puter - I don't even know if that would happen. Computer illiterate here.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[tashi]

Originally Posted by FrankieBones1

Found on Nancy's website:
Just released: State's Attorney's Office releases 600 pages of documents in the case against tot mom Casey Anthony. Nancy Grace has the latest, tonight 8 & 10 ET on Headline News.

Anyone know what these are about?

There was a big release of documents today...

Here's a link that should guide you to pdf files

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-c...,2008725.story

[txsage]

Originally Posted by FrankieBones1

Found on Nancy's website:
Just released: State's Attorney's Office releases 600 pages of documents in the case against tot mom Casey Anthony. Nancy Grace has the latest, tonight 8 & 10 ET on Headline News.

Anyone know what these are about?

on the Links thread..........I've only read Lee's interview. Interesting!

[tashi]

Originally Posted by Rayosunshine

Is the phone/text msg. doc. out? I hate to ask again, but I fear if I download too much i will crash puter - I don't even know if that would happen. Computer illiterate here.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

I keep looking and haven't found anything more than the 317 pages released earlier

[Rayosunshine]

Originally Posted by FrankieBones1

Found on Nancy's website:
Just released: State's Attorney's Office releases 600 pages of documents in the case against tot mom Casey Anthony. Nancy Grace has the latest, tonight 8 & 10 ET on Headline News.

Anyone know what these are about?

OMG Frankie, where you been. Stuff hit the net not too far before 5:00 pm. Be ready to do an all-nighter.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[girlspell]

Nancy Grace had a rehash of the documents released today. Some damning things about Casey. The worst (I think) was taking things for herself and nothing for Caylee. Even leaving behind the beloved doll. Her story has changed again. The 30 days without Caylee was just Casey looking for work. Caylee safe with Zanny.

Pretty circumstantial case so far (at least for murder). I think a lot of the DNA they depended on so much was too degraded to use. If they're going for murder, it will be a VERY circumstantial case. Wish them luck. They are going to need it.

Originally Posted by Unperson1984

Hi RR:

I had a full schedule this afternoon, did anything important happen?

TIA

Hi ya there sweetpea. Well there were at least close to 300 documents released today out of 591.

Do you need the links? The depositions are mainly what were released from 4 people today. There is more to come. I tell ya if you have text to audio reader softwware you should use it. I got aheadache reading all that stuff. lol I did post a link to free software if you need me to PM it to ya.

[tashi]

Originally Posted by girlspell

Nancy Grace had a rehash of the documents released today. Some damning things about Casey. The worst (I think) was taking things for herself and nothing for Caylee. Even leaving behind the beloved doll. Her story has changed again. The 30 days without Caylee was just Casey looking for work. Caylee safe with Zanny.

Pretty circumstantial case so far (at least for murder). I think a lot of the DNA they depended on so much was too degraded to use. If they're going for murder, it will be a VERY circumstantial case. Wish them luck. They are going to need it.

I also think that the phone call to Amy about her car smelling horrible on June 25th was big news. It establishes that the smell was in the car before it was abandoned at amscot and before it went and sat at the impound lot for two weeks.

[lchal2002]

that had to do w/having 'the best ... of her life' or something to that effect. Where are the transcripts of those text messages? I went thru the 317 pages and only saw 1 page of msg on page 80 that weren't what was on NG. Anyone have any like to the text messages???? SUPER INTERESTING..... Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by tashi

I also think that the phone call to Amy about her car smelling horrible on June 25th was big news. It establishes that the smell was in the car before it was abandoned at amscot and before it went and sat at the impound lot for two weeks.

YEP YEP and she acknowldges it as a smell of decomposition whether it was animal or not. BTW Not one report about the testing says they found animal dna or decomp on or in that car.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally Posted by tashi

I also think that the phone call to Amy about her car smelling horrible on June 25th was big news. It establishes that the smell was in the car before it was abandoned at amscot and before it went and sat at the impound lot for two weeks.

Yep, there goes Cindy's theory that someone else could have dumped a body in there. And George, what did he say? That it wasn't Caylee's body? Well, then, who did Casey kill besides Caylee? Are there 2 murders she's good for, Mr. Curious George?

[FrankieBones1]

Thanks, Texasage and Tashi. Anyone know why those particular ones were release at this time? I think it's a great idea. Nothing should be kept from jurors, in my opinion, so this is a good way for info to get out to prospective ones.

RaysMom: Been busy for a few days but getting caught up slowly. Should be able to get lots of info on Nancy's show tonight.

[joolz]

Originally Posted by FrankieBones1

Found on Nancy's website:
Just released: State's Attorney's Office releases 600 pages of documents in the case against tot mom Casey Anthony. Nancy Grace has the latest, tonight 8 & 10 ET on Headline News.

Anyone know what these are about?

Glue those reading glasses to your nose, girl - I've only gotten through about 100 pages so far, and it is, to say the least, interesting reading.

Don't know about anyone else, but reading Lee's statement made me feel like at the beginning of all this, he had a pretty clear idea that Casey had done something terrible. But since then he seems to have completely closed ranks with the family.

His description of the odor from the car also makes me believe that there is no way George and Cindy didn't suspect Caylee was dead at Casey's hands. JMO

[barskin&co.]

Originally Posted by joolz

Glue those reading glasses to your nose, girl - I've only gotten through about 100 pages so far, and it is, to say the least, interesting reading.

Don't know about anyone else, but reading Lee's statement made me feel like at the beginning of all this, he had a pretty clear idea that Casey had done something terrible. But since then he seems to have completely closed ranks with the family.

His description of the odor from the car also makes me believe that there is no way George and Cindy didn't suspect Caylee was dead at Casey's hands. JMO

Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.

[babblefishie]

Originally Posted by tashi

I also think that the phone call to Amy about her car smelling horrible on June 25th was big news. It establishes that the smell was in the car before it was abandoned at amscot and before it went and sat at the impound lot for two weeks.

Hi everyone
I agree Tashi -- Casey sunk herself by attempting to explain away that smell early on. It's also telling how one friend stated that Casey seemed more carefree than ever in between calls from her family, when she then seemed quite upset. Seems like reality was getting in the way of her fun. Jesse Grund does not paint a very flattering picture of CA does he?

[?noanswer]

Originally Posted by FrankieBones1

Found on Nancy's website:
Just released: State's Attorney's Office releases 600 pages of documents in the case against tot mom Casey Anthony. Nancy Grace has the latest, tonight 8 & 10 ET on Headline News.

Anyone know what these are about?

NG didn't have anything much, but there is a link on the links thread for some, if not all, of the new documents. JMO

Originally Posted by FrankieBones1

Thanks, Texasage and Tashi. Anyone know why those particular ones were release at this time? I think it's a great idea. Nothing should be kept from jurors, in my opinion, so this is a good way for info to get out to prospective ones.

RaysMom: Been busy for a few days but getting caught up slowly. Should be able to get lots of info on Nancy's show tonight.

They were released today because Baez got the discovery yesterday. The Sunshine law and Freedom of information act are why the media got them and released parts of them. I'm still not sure why the OCSO page hasn't posted the full 591 pages yet. They aren't media and they don't need the teasers and ratings. so that baffles me.

[bluwaters]

Please light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to begin

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/...l=eng&gi=cayle

[tashi]

Does anyone know anything about Brandon?

I've never heard anything about him until today...Casey had a miscarriage??

The girl does get around

[bluwaters]

Thanks barskin!
did you bring your squirrely friend?

[?noanswer]

Originally Posted by girlspell

Nancy Grace had a rehash of the documents released today. Some damning things about Casey. The worst (I think) was taking things for herself and nothing for Caylee. Even leaving behind the beloved doll. Her story has changed again. The 30 days without Caylee was just Casey looking for work. Caylee safe with Zanny.

Pretty circumstantial case so far (at least for murder). I think a lot of the DNA they depended on so much was too degraded to use. If they're going for murder, it will be a VERY circumstantial case. Wish them luck. They are going to need it.

I'm thinking maybe they just released documents that would support the current charges. Since they have not charged her with murder/manslaughter, they might not be releasing any forensics. JMO

[barskin&co.]

Originally Posted by msgatorslayer

Yep, there goes Cindy's theory that someone else could have dumped a body in there. And George, what did he say? That it wasn't Caylee's body? Well, then, who did Casey kill besides Caylee? Are there 2 murders she's good for, Mr. Curious George?

Oh, George wants us to believe someone found a handy dead body, put it in to the trunk of her car, then took it out. They do that kind of stuff in tow yards don't they? This is entirely conicidental to the invisible dead squirrels that were invisbly attached to the car causing the smell Casey experienced before the car was towed, mind you.

[OneUp]

I'm still processsing the new info...Wow, just wow!
It's very damning stuff...all confirming my suspicions or just adding new layers of depravity, but very informative and stuff that makes it much easier to draw conclusions...
I'm sure some will still be fervent defenders of Cindy, but it becomes pretty obvious form the interviews that Cindy knew Casey caring for Caylee alone was not good. That IN NO WAY makes Cindy responsible for what happened though.It just means she had a far bigger knowledge of Casey's "flaws" than we knew for certain before...she told Amy that casey had been thieving for YEARS...I still am emotionally overwhelmed by "picturing" the smell and the surreal setting of the family with that car in the garage ...and later trying to convince us?/themselves? that it was pizza.
I'm waiting for a bomb to hit after reading this...I really think that the neglect charges will eventually be dropped unless they carry on with neglect that is not attached to Caylee's dissapearance. I think we will see the charges stand until the last minute though, because I believe LE really wants Caylee so they may take this all the way to 2nd degree.
Jmo...cutting myself off before it becomes my novel!

[?noanswer]

Originally Posted by lchal2002

that had to do w/having 'the best ... of her life' or something to that effect. Where are the transcripts of those text messages? I went thru the 317 pages and only saw 1 page of msg on page 80 that weren't what was on NG. Anyone have any like to the text messages???? SUPER INTERESTING..... Thanks in advance.

If they are part of the 600 pages, I think noone has had the time to upload the last pages. JMO

[TxLady2]

When the A's went to pick up the car from the tow yard, the smell was overpowering. They were afraid to open the trunk for fear that Casey or Caylee was dead in it. Lee said he couldn't get near the car more than a minute, the smell was so bad.
I've only read through Tony's and Lee's statements so far.. very interesting!

Originally Posted by tashi

Does anyone know anything about Brandon?

I've never heard anything about him until today...Casey had a miscarriage??

The girl does get around

I'd like to know if the miscarriage thing was a total LIE or not. I never heard about Brandon until today either.

[tashi]

Originally Posted by babblefishie

Hi everyone
I agree Tashi -- Casey sunk herself by attempting to explain away that smell early on. It's also telling how one friend stated that Casey seemed more carefree than ever in between calls from her family, when she then seemed quite upset. Seems like reality was getting in the way of her fun. Jesse Grund does not paint a very flattering picture of CA does he?

Yeah that carefree attitude is disturbing. I think Amy described Casey as acting "very, very, very annoyingly giddy" because Tony was coming home on July 5th. At the same time, she's trying to start something with that guy Will. Unbelievable!

[Nellie]

Originally Posted by joolz

Glue those reading glasses to your nose, girl - I've only gotten through about 100 pages so far, and it is, to say the least, interesting reading.

Don't know about anyone else, but reading Lee's statement made me feel like at the beginning of all this, he had a pretty clear idea that Casey had done something terrible. But since then he seems to have completely closed ranks with the family.

His description of the odor from the car also makes me believe that there is no way George and Cindy didn't suspect Caylee was dead at Casey's hands. JMO

They suspected enough to go looking for her in the backyard!

[trich]

[quote=joolz;12174550]Glue those reading glasses to your nose, girl - I've only gotten through about 100 pages so far, and it is, to say the least, interesting reading.

Don't know about anyone else, but reading Lee's statement made me feel like at the beginning of all this, he had a pretty clear idea that Casey had done something terrible. But since then he seems to have completely closed ranks with the family.

His description of the odor from the car

If you read Amy''s dispostion you would know that Cindy thought that either Casey or Caylee was dead in the trunk.

[WillowInFlight]

Originally Posted by joolz

Glue those reading glasses to your nose, girl - I've only gotten through about 100 pages so far, and it is, to say the least, interesting reading.

Don't know about anyone else, but reading Lee's statement made me feel like at the beginning of all this, he had a pretty clear idea that Casey had done something terrible. But since then he seems to have completely closed ranks with the family.

His description of the odor from the car also makes me believe that there is no way George and Cindy didn't suspect Caylee was dead at Casey's hands. JMO

ITA, he said he could only stand in the garage a few minutes at a time, funny how Casey said the squirrel got up under the hood but the smell came from the trunk, I wonder how she explains that. I also thought Amy shed a lot of light on some of the lies that Casey told her that I have never heard of before, I can't believe she told Amy George had just had a mini stroke and that Cindy was signing the house over to her because Cindy and George were going to get an apartment.

Knowing what Cindy and Casey's friends know now I wonder what they think. I imagine that Casey is blaming everyone else for her lies. After all they weren't really lies, just misunderstandings.

I'm trying to catch up on what Brittany says.

[joolz]

Originally Posted by OneUp

I'm still processsing the new info...Wow, just wow!
It's very damning stuff...all confirming my suspicions or just adding new layers of depravity, but very informative and stuff that makes it much easier to draw conclusions...
I'm sure some will still be fervent defenders of Cindy, but it becomes pretty obvious form the interviews that Cindy knew Casey caring for Caylee alone was not good. That IN NO WAY makes Cindy responsible for what happened though.It just means she had a far bigger knowledge of Casey's "flaws" than we knew for certain before...she told Amy that casey had been thieving for YEARS...I still am emotionally overwhelmed by "picturing" the smell and the surreal setting of the family with that car in the garage ...and later trying to convince us?/themselves? that it was pizza.
I'm waiting for a bomb to hit after reading this...I really think that the neglect charges will eventually be dropped unless they carry on with neglect that is not attached to Caylee's dissapearance. I think we will see the charges stand until the last minute though, because I believe LE really wants Caylee so they may take this all the way to 2nd degree.
Jmo...cutting myself off before it becomes my novel!

ITA with everything you said. And I agree that cindy is not responsible for what happened to Caylee.

But I do wonder what the accurate definition of denial is. Any psycologists here tonight? If - as it appears - the Anthonys all came to the accurate conclusion about the horrible fate of Caylee, then started making up excuses and stories and thrwoing around false accusations, does that really qualify as denial? Or is it just obstructing justice?

[WillowInFlight]

Originally Posted by barskin&co.

Oh, George wants us to believe someone found a handy dead body, put it in to the trunk of her car, then took it out. They do that kind of stuff in tow yards don't they? This is entirely conicidental to the invisible dead squirrels that were invisbly attached to the car causing the smell Casey experienced before the car was towed, mind you.

And don't forget that same person had to take that same body and put it in the Anthony's backyard.

[?noanswer]

Another thing I had not heard before: Casey told Amy that George had a mini stroke and was in the hospital. She used that as an excuse not to take Amy to get another car.

The only info so far about Brandon is in statements from others. If there is a statement from him, I haven't seen it posted. I went thru all 300+ pages except the calendar pages with all the notations. One thing that kinda bothers me is that several people got together and came up with a timeline.

JMO


JMO

[steffaroob4]

She tried to get Jesse to bring her a gas can on June 28, plus Amy buying one on 30th
WOW
She was planning on getting her car back.
I thought the food/grocery story from TonE was interesting, he said it looked like she brought stuff from her parents house, not a store. I wish we got a better time on the car incident.

Originally Posted by WillowInFlight

ITA, he said he could only stand in the garage a few minutes at a time, funny how Casey said the squirrel got up under the hood but the smell came from the trunk, I wonder how she explains that. I also thought Amy shed a lot of light on some of the lies that Casey told her that I have never heard of before, I can't believe she told Amy George had just had a mini stroke and that Cindy was signing the house over to her because Cindy and George were going to get an apartment.

Knowing what Cindy and Casey's friends know now I wonder what they think. I imagine that Casey is blaming everyone else for her lies. After all they weren't really lies, just misunderstandings.

I'm trying to catch up on what Brittany says.

I bet she is blaming others right now too. I have a feeling that all of this information and the arrests were done in the manner they were done the timing they were done. So that there would be tension and a rif caused within the home and they would turn on casey and stop covering up for her.

I have to read Cindy and George's depositions before i decide for sure though.