Tuesday Afternoon/Early Evening - Sept. 16th

[FrankieBones1]

Hi, folks!
The old thread is about to reach its limit.

Enjoy posting and respect each other.

[sunbunny]

Originally Posted by FrankieBones1

Hi, folks!
The old thread is about to reach its limit.

Enjoy posting and respect each other.

i'm still lurking AND respecting! thanks for starting the new thread, Frankie.

[marinewife5]

Originally Posted by FrankieBones1

Hi, folks!
The old thread is about to reach its limit.

Enjoy posting and respect each other.

thank you frankie! (for the thread and the pep talk!)

[kakax]

Thanks Frankie for the new thread and the reminder....this is our day of Peace...


For Caylee

[MyrDawn]

Originally Posted by FrankieBones1

Hi, folks!
The old thread is about to reach its limit.

Enjoy posting and respect each other.

This old gal has about reached her limit too. Got errands to run. Don't let anything too important happend 'till I get back. Unless it's a murder charge or they find Caylee's body!

[Snoopy50]

Thanks Frankie!
My bus was stalled in a puddle....

[n/t]

I need reassurance again from my fellow posters that she will end up getting charged for murder.

I'm getting more and more frustrated with the circus. Casey parading in and out of jail. Baez with that smirk on his face like he's auditioning for a movie.

I really am concerned that LE doesn't have enough to charge her. It's been 2 months now since that 911 call. If the DNA shows there was a dead body in the trunk and investigators are so certain that it was Caylee's body, what's the hold up?

Caylee

Originally Posted by Certiorari

redcard
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Originally Posted by Certiorari View Post
Educate yourself on Florida law regarding child neglect and future murder charges. You might learn something.
Just did.. and interesting.

If this was a neglect case or a criminally negligent homicide.. there MIGHT be some limitations coming into play.

****

She has child neglect charges now which backs them into a corner for murder charges before her trial. They rushed to arrest her too soon. Bad mistake that could come back to bite them with a November deadline.

Sorry if I missed it. Will you link again to the FL law that states she cannot be tried for both neglect and murder?

[Snoopy50]

Originally Posted by n/t

I need reassurance again from my fellow posters that she will end up getting charged for murder.

I'm getting more and more frustrated with the circus. Casey parading in and out of jail. Baez with that smirk on his face like he's auditioning for a movie.

I really am concerned that LE doesn't have enough to charge her. It's been 2 months now since that 911 call. If the DNA shows there was a dead body in the trunk and investigators are so certain that it was Caylee's body, what's the hold up?

Caylee

Have you heard the saying "give someone enough rope to hang themselves?"

Originally Posted by EGirl

Sorry if I missed it. Will you link again to the FL law that states she cannot be tried for both neglect and murder?

She can be tried for both, but if the state cannot make the neglect case, there's no way that they can make the murder based on neglect case.

And if they don't act on the neglect case soon, then they'll lose the right to refile. See, two types of limitations come into play here.. the first involves the right to a speedy trial, which I believe she's invoked.

That says that once you are charged with something, you have the right to a speedy trial. She was charged, and now they have until November to proceed or drop.

The other kind of limitations are how long after a supposed crime you can be charged with something. In Florida , neglect to a felony level is 3 years limitation for a child.

[SavannahStar]

Originally Posted by AdverseParty

I have to wonder if LE has created this circus to distract people from realizing how badly they have handled this investigation. It seems to be working for the most part.

imo

I'm almost to the point of believing that.......almost, not quite.

Originally Posted by AdverseParty

I have to wonder if LE has created this circus to distract people from realizing how badly they have handled this investigation. It seems to be working for the most part.

imo

3 people turned this into a circus:

CASEY
GEORGE
CINDY


THEY created this circus to cover how poorly they have handled their 'family' situation that ultimately resulted in the death of the only real innocent in the bunch.

IMO

[True2Blues]

Originally Posted by EGirl

Sorry if I missed it. Will you link again to the FL law that states she cannot be tried for both neglect and murder?

Thank you. I'd like to see that myself. It's not an either/or situation. The neglect charges deal with not reporting the child missing, the murder investigation is a separate thing that deal with a whole lot more than that.

[True2Blues]

Originally Posted by EGirl

3 people turned this into a circus:

CASEY
GEORGE
CINDY


THEY created this circus to cover how poorly they have handled their 'family' situation that ultimately resulted in the death of the only real innocent in the bunch.

IMO

Don't forget Lee. He joined in with gusto.

[BJames]

Wow...I finally caught up.

I have always wondered about the 'June 9th' and 'thirty one days' comment(s) coming from the Anthony camp, it means something...I just can't figure out exactly what it is...
The other thing I have noticed? Casey Anthony is in her glory right now with all of this attention, add her 'high profile attorney' holding her hand? She has them all right where she wants them...a good psychologist is having a field day watching this family, the dynamics are awesome...and for the most part Casey is pretty predictable.
She is not going to give anyone any 'real' information, and there is so much 'guilt' in that family unit that the Anthony 'family' sees this as an 'us' and 'them' situation.
I hope LE has all of their ducks in a row...this is going to be like pulling teeth.

Day 93...Where is Caylee Anthony?

[True2Blues]

Originally Posted by Certiorari

Tonight At 11: Zenaida Gonzalez Talks To WESH

http://www.wesh.com/news/17485195/detail.html

Is that the woman who was interviewed earlier by the media? The one who has the same name and babysits, but isn't the one Casey talks about? Casey saw a picture and said it wasn't her, but because of the name and job, this woman has been affected by the publicity?

If this was THE Zanny the nanny, LE would be talking to her now.

Originally Posted by Certiorari

Tonight At 11: Zenaida Gonzalez Talks To WESH

http://www.wesh.com/news/17485195/detail.html

I thought this woman doesn't exist.

[trich]

Originally Posted by BJames

Wow...I finally caught up.

I have always wondered about the 'June 9th' and 'thirty one days' comment(s) coming from the Anthony camp, it means something...I just can't figure out exactly what it is...
The other thing I have noticed? Casey Anthony is in her glory right now with all of this attention, add her 'high profile attorney' holding her hand? She has them all right where she wants them...a good psychologist is having a field day watching this family, the dynamics are awesome...and for the most part Casey is pretty predictable.
She is not going to give anyone any 'real' information, and there is so much 'guilt' in that family unit that the Anthony 'family' sees this as an 'us' and 'them' situation.
I hope LE has all of their ducks in a row...this is going to be like pulling teeth.

Day 93...Where is Caylee Anthony?

June 9th is the night that Caylee and Casey spent the night with Ricado....it is in the interviews.

I don't know if that has anything to do with her saying last time she saw Caylee was June 9th but if not it certainly is a coincidence.

[True2Blues]

Originally Posted by redcard

She can be tried for both, but if the state cannot make the neglect case, there's no way that they can make the murder based on neglect case.

And if they don't act on the neglect case soon, then they'll lose the right to refile. See, two types of limitations come into play here.. the first involves the right to a speedy trial, which I believe she's invoked.

That says that once you are charged with something, you have the right to a speedy trial. She was charged, and now they have until November to proceed or drop.

The other kind of limitations are how long after a supposed crime you can be charged with something. In Florida , neglect to a felony level is 3 years limitation for a child.

Who said the murder charges would be based only on the neglect case? I think they will have other evidence to support a charge of murder.

Originally Posted by redcard

I thought this woman doesn't exist.

It's not the nanny.

[happy2bme]

Originally Posted by redcard

I thought this woman doesn't exist.

yeah she exists alright but not Casey's web of lies.

Originally Posted by True2Blues

Who said the murder charges would be based only on the neglect case? I think they will have other evidence to support a charge of murder.

I hope they do, but am beginning to doubt that they would.

After Casey goes to jail on neglect, or gets probation, she can continue to be a suspect for the murder case, but the LE lose all leverage. Once someone is in jail, you've taken away the primary bargaining chip you have.. which is mainly to keep them out of jail.

So, that evidence had better show up. Right now, I don't think they can even give enough to show that the girl is dead. And that bothers me. Because if they could show the girl is dead, they could ramp it up with the neglect and make a charge for manslaughter.

[kakax]

Originally Posted by n/t

I need reassurance again from my fellow posters that she will end up getting charged for murder.

I'm getting more and more frustrated with the circus. Casey parading in and out of jail. Baez with that smirk on his face like he's auditioning for a movie.

I really am concerned that LE doesn't have enough to charge her. It's been 2 months now since that 911 call. If the DNA shows there was a dead body in the trunk and investigators are so certain that it was Caylee's body, what's the hold up?

Caylee

I'm not of the opinion that LE would lie about tests that show decomposition, like some others on this board. They have results leading them to believe she is dead. LE wouldn't lie about that.

Let's see what happens with this California trip....don't get discouraged. The last time she walked out of jail, I felt the same way....we just have to believe that justice will be done in this case. It takes time to build a solid case. We don't want a hung jury. We want the real deal.

Melanie Maguire, Scott Peterson, Michael Peterson....all of these cases...it took some time. In MM's case, it was a year before she was arrested and look at all the evidence they had!!!

[forensicnut]

Originally Posted by Relynnrein

<p>Brought over from the other thread:</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>In her statement to police she said she thought that Zanny's mother's name was Gloria. She also said that she thought she owned a house off of Michigan. It would be interesting to see if there is a house in the deed records that was owned by any fernandez-gonzales or gonzales-fernandez.</p>

I'll go look.......

[True2Blues]

Originally Posted by redcard

I thought this woman doesn't exist.

There are several people with that name. This one for instance, who is probably who they are talking to.

http://crime.suite101.com/article.cf...caylee_anthony

[FrankieBones1]

Originally Posted by Relynnrein

Tonight At 11: Zenaida Gonzalez Talks To WESH

Woman Accused of Taking Caylee Anthony Explains How Life Has Changed


It says accused, not charged. not the Zenaida Casey told police about. this woman was cleared by investigators.

Thanks for the heads up, Relynnrein. I remember her last interview several weeks ago. She said that no one would hire her because of her name being associated to the case. Another victim of Casey Anthony.

Originally Posted by LandSharkII©

Watch & learn.

It's gonna happen.

We'll see.

My prediction is the next time she gets arrested, it's for something involving theft or something.

I don't see charges for anything else regarding caylee anytime soon.

[DeeN]

C. ANTHONY: Zenaida.

WELLS: Did you ever send any e-mails or did she.

C. ANTHONY: Her e-mail account bounced back. I`ve tried twice. I tried.

WELLS: Does she.

C. ANTHONY: Twice this morning.

WELLS: Does she -- have you.

C. ANTHONY: She had e-mail.

WELLS: Even when you all were in good times, does she -- would she send e-mails back and forth?

C. ANTHONY: On occasion. We would talk online. Not usually through e-mail, though.

They've got her laptop, so if she ever emailed Zenaida, it will be on her laptop. ALso, if there is a Zenaida, they can track her down thru her IP address.

This is a biggie in my HO.

[happy2bme]

Quick question


Why are we going back to discussing Zanny again? Is it because of the whole ZG interview coming up? This ZG was interviewed before. From what I got out of the article is that it is merely to show how her life has been changed because of Casey's lies. Did I miss something?

Originally Posted by SayWHAT?

It says interviewing her 'again,' so I would assume so. Just another bit of nothing.

Exactly. There are several ZG's that exist just not the one Casey weaved into her lies for LE. That one is NONEXISTANT.

Originally Posted by Rebel Rouzer

Exactly. There are several ZG's that exist just not the one Casey weaved into her lies for LE. That one is NONEXISTANT.

Ah.

So she has absolutely nothing to do with Caylee, and yet the press is so bored they'll just continue to bother her.

Kay.

[kakax]

Originally Posted by SayWHAT?

Exactly. This is Zenaida Gonzales, actual woman and collateral damage victim of Casey Anthony.

This is NOT the Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales that Casey and her mommy, at least, are hanging all their dirty laundry all over.

Heart breaking isn't it...so many lives ruined.

Originally Posted by happy2bme

Quick question


Why are we going back to discussing Zanny again? Is it because of the whole ZG interview coming up? This ZG was interviewed before. From what I got out of the article is that it is merely to show how her life has been changed because of Casey's lies. Did I miss something?

You didn't miss anything. Just people trying to continue belieing Casey's lies about Zanny the nanny.

Sad. Very sad.

[True2Blues]

Originally Posted by redcard

I hope they do, but am beginning to doubt that they would.

After Casey goes to jail on neglect, or gets probation, she can continue to be a suspect for the murder case, but the LE lose all leverage. Once someone is in jail, you've taken away the primary bargaining chip you have.. which is mainly to keep them out of jail.

So, that evidence had better show up. Right now, I don't think they can even give enough to show that the girl is dead. And that bothers me. Because if they could show the girl is dead, they could ramp it up with the neglect and make a charge for manslaughter.

I think Casey has made it clear that there is no bargaining with her. She won't ever admit what she did.

I don't believe that LE would claim they had preliminary test results if they didn't have them. They are allowed to say whatever they want when questioning a suspect, but I'm sure there are repercussions if they lie in official statements to the public. I guess we'll find out at some point.

LE doesn't seem ready to charge Casey yet, they're still collecting evidence. She isn't going anywhere at present, so I'd rather they took their time and got everything in order.

[trich]

Originally Posted by CiaoBella

Thats exactly what I think, they rushed too soon. Still dont get why if they know Caylee is dead for sure why Casey isn't in jail, I am almost starting to think the police force likes all the attention, because it is time to wrap it up before some weird protester opens fire at the Anthony house, and it really could. Police have to protect the community, to me its cut and dry, you know Caylee is dead and Casey was the last one with her, and look how weird she acted, all the lies, they can bring a murder charge and more than likely make it stick

Its so frustrating. moo

I just have to believe the Attorney General of Florida knows what he is doing.

[keybored]

Originally Posted by AdverseParty

I have to wonder if LE has created this circus to distract people from realizing how badly they have handled this investigation. It seems to be working for the most part.

imo

I'm sorry, but I don't see how LE has created any circus

The only ringleaders I see are the Anthonys. If Casey wasn't constantly being bailed out, much of the circus and problems would subside.

Also, I do think that the Anthonys contribute to the circus by their outrageous behaviour. Could you imagine how much more help and sympathy they would get if they weren't so combative and accusatory towards people that don't deserve it?

[deep*fear]

Originally Posted by Relynnrein

Tonight At 11: Zenaida Gonzalez Talks To WESH

Woman Accused of Taking Caylee Anthony Explains How Life Has Changed


It says accused, not charged. not the Zenaida Casey told police about. this woman was cleared by investigators.

Of course she was cleared, she probably was at work or babysitting a group of children and had witnesses to her wherabouts on June 16 from 9am to 1pm

[courtsinsession]

I am truly beginning to think she may get away with this; the police are beginning to look a tad incompetent to me; they keep charging her and she keeps getting back out; This case makes me sad for Caylee and sick about the circus it has become. those protestors outside the home- just horrible; and Casey, smirking and getting all the attention 24/7 from men all day long (bodyguards, attorneys); it is truly appalling. makes you wish for days gone by, before the internet and 24/7 cable. (although lets face it forums like this are great)

[anyonesguess]

Originally Posted by SayWHAT?

Exactly. This is Zenaida Gonzales, actual woman and collateral damage victim of Casey Anthony.

This is NOT the Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales that Casey and her mommy, at least, are hanging all their dirty laundry all over.

Wonder if somehow one of her policeman boyfriends she was possibly having sexual relationships with somehow had contact while on the job with ZFG that Casey found out about, and that is how she came up with her name?

Hi everyone,

New here.. I've been reading this boards for awhile and decided to finally join.. I've been trying to keep up with this case.. I'm just heartbroken that this little girl might have ended up dead by her own mother's hands.. JMO I keep hoping that something big will break in this case..

http://www.jurorthirteen.com/