Caylee Anthony 09-10-08 afternoon/evening thread

[nutterbutter]

new thread is ready as we have almost reach our thousand on morning thread.Lot of good posts today and good posters.
for Caylee.

[spiritwolf46]

Thanks for the new thread! I am going to beddy by for a little while but will be back. Now you all, don't type too fast or I will NEVER catch up!

have a terrific afternoon all and I pray that Caylee will be found today.

FOR CAYLEE

[FrankieBones1]

Good afternoon, folks. Looks like it is almost time for a new thread as the other on is going to hit 1,000 posts soon.

[FrankieBones1]

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[purplepoints]

one quick question...

is it very common for people to refer to the babysitter as "the nanny". Around here, a nanny is a live in babysitter, someone who watches your child while you work is a babysitter.

Just curious. Was Casey "putting on airs" by calling her a nanny or do others not find a problem with calling her that?

[steffaroob4]

Originally Posted by purplepoints

one quick question...

is it very common for people to refer to the babysitter as "the nanny". Around here, a nanny is a live in babysitter, someone who watches your child while you work is a babysitter.

Just curious. Was Casey "putting on airs" by calling her a nanny or do others not find a problem with calling her that?

Did you read the transcript from Ryan Palsey, he mentioned caseys habit of one-upping him. It was very interesting.

Originally Posted by steffaroob4

Did you read the transcript from Ryan Palsey, he mentioned caseys habit of one-upping him. It was very interesting.

Haven't read it - where did you find it? If in the 400 pgs of docs could you advise the page #, please. TYIA.

Originally Posted by purplepoints

one quick question...

is it very common for people to refer to the babysitter as "the nanny". Around here, a nanny is a live in babysitter, someone who watches your child while you work is a babysitter.

Just curious. Was Casey "putting on airs" by calling her a nanny or do others not find a problem with calling her that?

I don't know about any where else or anyone, but I called my grandmother Nanny. And my kids call my mom Nanny.

[steffaroob4]

Originally Posted by st777jo

I don't know about any where else or anyone, but I called my grandmother Nanny. And my kids call my mom Nanny.

You are right, I have heard kids use that for their grandmas.
I never did hear what caylee called her gamma, my kids use Nana.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally Posted by st777jo

I don't know about any where else or anyone, but I called my grandmother Nanny. And my kids call my mom Nanny.

True...My kids have a Nanny (Daddy's mom)

a Granny, Papa, Opa, etc. etc.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally Posted by purplepoints

one quick question...

is it very common for people to refer to the babysitter as "the nanny". Around here, a nanny is a live in babysitter, someone who watches your child while you work is a babysitter.

Just curious. Was Casey "putting on airs" by calling her a nanny or do others not find a problem with calling her that?

I've thought about that too.

I actually have a "daycare worker" however, I use to have an individual who "babysat" and was thus the babysitter.


I agree, in my terminology, nanny refers to one that lives with the family and is way more than a "babysitter"

A babysitter watches your child for you to go to work, or out for a short time. A nanny is basically a second mom, who does the primary caregiving, if that makes sense.


Which would make sense with Casey's statements of the "nanny" taking Caylee to all these places.

Regardless, IMO, Casey was just trying to make herself sound and appear more sophisticated.

[BrownEyedF]

Originally Posted by purplepoints

one quick question...

is it very common for people to refer to the babysitter as "the nanny". Around here, a nanny is a live in babysitter, someone who watches your child while you work is a babysitter.

Just curious. Was Casey "putting on airs" by calling her a nanny or do others not find a problem with calling her that?

My niece and nephew called me Nanny when they were little. I have never referred to a babysitter for my children as a nanny. I do know someone employed as a nanny and she lives in.

Someone mentioned in the other thread that they found it strange that Cindy did not refer to Zanny by her name in the 911 call. I had never thought of that before. I would have said "Zanny her babysitter or nanny" has her if I was telling someone. I would not have just said the babysitter.

[BrownEyedF]

I know G&C loved Caylee without a doubt just as my mother loves my children. I believe they would have done anything for her.

However, I think they were trying to get her to take more responsibility for her daughter in an attempt to get her to 'move on' with her life and get some direction for her future. I think towards the end of this whole fiasco they were maybe pulling back some on the babysitting and expecting her to pick up the slack.

Ricardo said that Casey brought Caylee over to his house to spend the night 3-4 nights a week and that they all slept in the same bed. I found that pretty shocking...not that couples let their children sleep with them, I am not against that. However, this relationship that she was having with Ricardo went from Feb I think until May. It was hardly a long-term or serious relationship IMO. There is no reason that Caylee should have been in that man's bed. But why would Casey have her there with them if she had a choice? If she could have taken her home and tucked her into bed and then come back, I think she would have.

I think this is the reason she lied about times that she had to work so that she could have some free time without Caylee. I think George and Cindy were her only babysitters other than friends occasionally. I think she needed the fake emails for the days when she wanted Cindy to babysit.

I think she may have told them that she had another babysitter for Caylee so she could breeze outta the house and say, "going to work, gonna drop Caylee at nanny's." Then she went out and took her daughter to parties or spent the night with guys, whatever it is she did. I don't think Cindy would have approved of Caylee being in the middle of these parties and drinking, etc.

I have heard a lot of people ask, "Why would she kill her when she could have just left Caylee with her parents and done whatever she wanted to?" I truly don't believe that was the case. I think C&G were getting fed up with her and they were not going to support her going out to have a good time as often as she wanted to. When she flew the coop over father's day weekend she no longer had anyone to watch Caylee. That is when this all exploded.

If, in fact, Cindy had hinted to Casey before she left that she would try to take custody of Caylee, it may have been what set this whole unfortunate chain of events into motion. What would she use to manipulate Cindy if she didn't have Caylee anymore?

JMO

[ccat]

Originally Posted by purplepoints

one quick question...

is it very common for people to refer to the babysitter as "the nanny". Around here, a nanny is a live in babysitter, someone who watches your child while you work is a babysitter.

Just curious. Was Casey "putting on airs" by calling her a nanny or do others not find a problem with calling her that?

I also have a problem with her use of the word "nanny". She was trying to elevate her status, period.

[steffaroob4]

Originally Posted by Dunnie

I think we have two. I'm still getting used to maneuvering my way through the board.

I do love the new boards, I do have some small issues, but I am working around them.
I wonder if Baez will take casey to the jail for the new charges.

[nana6]

Thank you Frankie. What is new? Anything important with the case? I have not been well last night or today so I have been unable to keep up/ I sure hope this all ends soon and they find our little angel Caylee.

Originally Posted by Dunnie

huh? wow, I didn't know that. Been off line for 2-3 days, broken computer and sick family. Trying to play catch up.

It's temporary while they wait for some water to go down. At least that's the last I heard but I've been at work for the past couple days

[martha]

Originally Posted by SavannahStar

Tim is no longer searching for Caylee (temporarily). He's in Aruba right now.

What is tim doing in aruba now? I have not heard he was there.

Originally Posted by martha

What is tim doing in aruba now? I have not heard he was there.

not sure i can post the link though.

Natalee Holloway Investigation: Exclusive … Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch in Aruba to meet With ALE/Prosecutor … New Witness That Puts Joran & Paulus Van der Sloot Near Ponds on 5/30/05

[nana6]

Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~

Originally Posted by Regina.Lampert


Name one thing cynthia and george have done to find Caylee.

________________________________

You have somehow forgotten that if not for Cindy, Caylee wouldn't even be known as a Missing Person.

DG that sems to be true, but I think that is about where it stops for Cindy helping at least to the public eye. I think her calls to 911 were real. I also tend to think that when she found out the real truth about what happened she closed down. IMO

Originally Posted by nana6

DG that sems to be true, but I think that is about where it stops for Cindy helping at least to the public eye. I think her calls to 911 were real. I also tend to think that when she found out the real truth about what happened she closed down. IMO

The only regret I see in these people is the 911 calls. It was done to one up the pressure (power struggle) but Cindy "talked" too much and has had to backtrack ever since.

[Loves2Read]

Originally Posted by nana6

DG that sems to be true, but I think that is about where it stops for Cindy helping at least to the public eye. I think her calls to 911 were real. I also tend to think that when she found out the real truth about what happened she closed down. IMO

I am pretty sure you are not alone in your opinion nana6!

[nana6]

Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~

So unless the public is allowed into the Anthonys personal lives, gawking for knowledge that doesn't belong to them - then it's just to be assumed that they're doing nothing to help find Caylee.

The Anthonys asked the public into their personal lives when they told the public to get off of their azzess and look for Caylee. When the public is asked by the family then they (the public) will be following or gawking for knowlegdge as you put it. To be expected IMO

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~

Originally Posted by Regina.Lampert


Name one thing cynthia and george have done to find Caylee.

________________________________

You have somehow forgotten that if not for Cindy, Caylee wouldn't even be known as a Missing Person.

So what? It is nothing heroic, the stranger down the street would have done the same thing. Cindy should be rewarded for this? Gramma of the year award?? When she gets off her *** to find the child as she so eloquently ordered the public maybe I'll consider the pass you seem to insist she get on her outrageous behavior. Enough with that already. I would move mountains to find my missing 3 yr old daughter/granddaughter no matter who was suspected of harming her. She doesn't get to pass go because she made the 911 call, which she was only motivated to do to spite Casey about her sticky fingers. moo

Originally Posted by cutiepatootie61

So what? It is nothing heroic, the stranger down the street would have done the same thing. Cindy should be rewarded for this? Gramma of the year award?? When she gets off her *** to find the child as she so eloquently ordered the public maybe I'll consider the pass you seem to insist she get on her outrageous behavior. Enough with that already. I would move mountains to find my missing 3 yr old daughter/granddaughter no matter who was suspected of harming her. She doesn't get to pass go because she made the 911 call, which she was only motivated to do to spite Casey about her sticky fingers. moo

lol, I see you've forgotten nothing

The only people who have tried to help this child since the evening this 911 call was made are strangers to Caylee. It would be nice if her blood family put some effort into finding her so she can come home to some nice foster family.....

MOO

[Syd'sMiMi]

Originally Posted by cutiepatootie61

So what? It is nothing heroic, the stranger down the street would have done the same thing. Cindy should be rewarded for this? Gramma of the year award?? When she gets off her *** to find the child as she so eloquently ordered the public maybe I'll consider the pass you seem to insist she get on her outrageous behavior. Enough with that already. I would move mountains to find my missing 3 yr old daughter/granddaughter no matter who was suspected of harming her. She doesn't get to pass go because she made the 911 call, which she was only motivated to do to spite Casey about her sticky fingers. moo

Touche', very well said.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally Posted by cutiepatootie61

So what? It is nothing heroic, the stranger down the street would have done the same thing. Cindy should be rewarded for this? Gramma of the year award?? When she gets off her *** to find the child as she so eloquently ordered the public maybe I'll consider the pass you seem to insist she get on her outrageous behavior. Enough with that already. I would move mountains to find my missing 3 yr old daughter/granddaughter no matter who was suspected of harming her. She doesn't get to pass go because she made the 911 call, which she was only motivated to do to spite Casey about her sticky fingers. moo

Not Moo, I gotta lean with you there! so no MOO, Lets do MOOT (too)

even though that completely contradicts the second O, I'm just going to scream denial and make it ok.

[jessjam]

Originally Posted by cutiepatootie61

So what? It is nothing heroic, the stranger down the street would have done the same thing. Cindy should be rewarded for this? Gramma of the year award?? When she gets off her *** to find the child as she so eloquently ordered the public maybe I'll consider the pass you seem to insist she get on her outrageous behavior. Enough with that already. I would move mountains to find my missing 3 yr old daughter/granddaughter no matter who was suspected of harming her. She doesn't get to pass go because she made the 911 call, which she was only motivated to do to spite Casey about her sticky fingers. moo

I agree 100%

[tiny paw-prints]

Is Josh Duckett still planning to have a fund raiser in Tampa for all missing children this weekend? Does anyone know?

[desmom]

In the morning thread, there seem to be some confusion about the Grand Theft Charge. Maybe this will help:

Bringing this over from the morning thread re: Grand Theft:


Charges http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0911/17446834.pdf

Count 1. Grand Theft 3rd Degree

"...between the 7th day of July, 2008 and the 11th day of July, 2008, in said county and State did in violation of Florida Statue 812.014(2)(c)(1), pursuant to one scheme or course of conduct, knowingly obtain or use, or endeavor to obtain or use United States Money Current, of a value of Three Hundred Dollars ($300.00) or more, the property of another, to wit: AH, as owner or custodian thereof, with the intent to temporarily or permanently deprive said owner or custodian of a right to the property or a benefit therefrom, or to appropriate the property to the defendant's own use or to the use of a person not entitled thereto."

FL Statues http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/ind...2/titl0812.htm

812.014(2)(c)(1) It is grand theft of the third degree and a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property stolen is:

1. Valued at $300 or more, but less than $5,000.

[steffaroob4]

Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~

Originally Posted by Regina.Lampert


Name one thing cynthia and george have done to find Caylee.

________________________________

You have somehow forgotten that if not for Cindy, Caylee wouldn't even be known as a Missing Person.

You can think that, I believe that Cindy thought casey was hiding caylee from her. Her 911 call was nothing more than a power struggle to get casey to tell where Caylee was, I do not think Cindy thought Caylee was in need of being found when she first called 911. That said, it has been 2 months, she called LE and she called TES, she asked people to look on their computers, so in short, she is wanting other people to find caylee, when the key to the mystery is sleeping in her home.

Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~

I definitely agree that when Cindy made that 911 call, she never thought that Casey would hold out for this long, but the fact still remains that Cindy IS the one who put her foot down and denied Casey's plea of 'give me one more day'/ 'we'll go get Caylee tomorrow' - and if Cindy had not stood her ground, no one would ever know that Caylee was missing.

As for Casey sleeping in her home, that's unconditional love of Cindy's daughter, and no matter where Casey may be sleeping, she's either going to come clean with the truth, or not.

Her month+ silence didn't seem to fare much better when she sat in jail.

IMO, someone somewhere would notice Caylee not being around.

And if she were my daughter, knowing she is the only with who knows where Caylee is, her butt would still be sitting in jail.

[Lorna]

Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~

I definitely agree that when Cindy made that 911 call, she never thought that Casey would hold out for this long, but the fact still remains that Cindy IS the one who put her foot down and denied Casey's plea of 'give me one more day'/ 'we'll go get Caylee tomorrow' - and if Cindy had not stood her ground, no one would ever know that Caylee was missing.

As for Casey sleeping in her home, that's unconditional love of Cindy's daughter, and no matter where Casey may be sleeping, she's either going to come clean with the truth, or not.

Her month+ silence didn't seem to fare much better when she sat in jail.

This was probably the first time Cindy had ever put her foot down so to speak to Casey. She had been covering for her misdeeds of stealing, lying etc. for years.

You speak of a parent's unconditional love. That doesn't mean that we are supposed to just ignore the wrongs our children do. We make them take responsibility for their actions, and face the consequences for those actions. That is out of love for our children.

Unconditional love is when you love your child, no matter what they've done, no matter the person they have become. However, it doesn't mean that you keep enabling them to do the same things over and over. That is nothing but crippling them from becoming productive adults.

I understand unconditional love. I don't understand this lunacy that has been going on with these parents and their children.

Casey should have been made to face the consequences long ago, it might have saved Caylee and the Anthony family a lot of grief.

As for the protestors, if the family wants them to go away, the best way to accomplish that is to give them nothing. Don't engage them, don't feed them as you see them doing.

They will become bored with no interaction, just as trolls on a message board will become bored if people ignore them. Eventually, they'll go away.

Same with the media. They will stay as long as they get a show like we saw last night.

[saydeezmom]

Maybe the Three Strikes Law will come into play for Miss Anthony...

Originally Posted by saydeezmom

Maybe the Three Strikes Law will come into play for Miss Anthony...

This is a series of charges that will end up being negotiated imo. The pipe dream of 50 years for miscellaneous fraud charges will never happen.

[Armchairdet]

I can understand the grandparents not wanting to believe that Caylee is no longer alive. But even if Caylee was kidnapped, it is always a possibility when someone takes a child that they will hurt the child. It just stands to reason that a search would be done. I am not saying the grandparents need to be out there searching, but it seems Cindy was not very nice to the people that came to help.

There are two possibilities. Well, one as far as I am concerned. But anyway, either Casey did something to Caylee, or some unknown person has/had her.

I also don't believe that grandparents that seem that controlling of situations like people near their lawn, or walking outside with signs are going to sit back at home and make no attempt to address the supposed kidnappers.

[kitty1182]

Originally Posted by MicheleL

George stated that he knew where the kidnappers
were and that they were being watched ..

Has he gone to get Caylee from them yet?

Don't think he has....LOL

[WillowInFlight]

Originally Posted by MicheleL

George stated that he knew where the kidnappers
were and that they were being watched ..

Has he gone to get Caylee from them yet?

Now you know better than that, If George had done that or even told LE were Caylee was, Caylee would have been in danger. Oh wait, they said from day one she was in danger.

They have done nothing but had T shirts made up and drove around with a roaming billboard.

[Syd'sMiMi]

And don't forget George says the kidnappers are being watched.

[WillowInFlight]

Originally Posted by MicheleL

and order the public to get off their a$$es to look for Caylee ..

Yep. To some I guess thats doing something.