Violent MS-13 gang invading Arizona

``Murdering someone is not a concern to them, it's a cost of doing business almost," Scioli said. ``Just their initiation to get into the gang is pretty aggressive."
MS-13 comes from El Salvador and has an estimated 100,000 members throughout Latin America and the United States. Many of the gang's founding members had experience or training in guerilla warefare in El Salvador. It's one of the fast-growing gangs in the world.
Scioli said the presence of MS-13 gang members is making federal agents along the U.S.-Mexico border nervous.
``It's not uncommon for a single agent to run into a group of 10 to 13 people and make the arrest alone, on his own, with backup maybe a half-hour away," he said.
Many of the gang's founders are highly-trained rebel fighters from El Salvador, he added.

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[momof6]

Because of my husbands training, I have known about this gang. They are very scary. I wonder how many sanctuary cities are exposing their citizens to these type of people. I think we are going to be having civil wars within our own country down the road. We cannot continue down this path of destruction that our towns and government are doing nothing about.

I use to believe that America was a great country. But it is slowly crumbling.

I wonder if Lita would invite these poor MS-13 illegals to her house for a nice warm meal?

[airportwoman]

My understanding is that they're showing up in some very unexpected places. I have heard that several cities in the Appalachian region have been taken over by these punks.

This gang is very scary and what is even scarier is the fact that a lot of the ones who are in prison here that are like the highest members of the gang can still control what goes on out here.

[Annie143]

I live in an area of Florida that you would not expect this kind of thing to be a big problem. Think again. Recently in local news article, gang activity was huge in our area and growing. who knew ? I had also though the numbers of participants in the MS-13 was much larger than the 100,000.

There was/has been a great series on gangs in the US on the History Channel, I believe. It really opened my eyes to what is going on.

But our government wont do anything about it. They dont want to until it touches them personally.

[airportwoman]

Originally Posted by Annie143

I live in an area of Florida that you would not expect this kind of thing to be a big problem. Think again. Recently in local news article, gang activity was huge in our area and growing. who knew ? I had also though the numbers of participants in the MS-13 was much larger than the 100,000.

There was/has been a great series on gangs in the US on the History Channel, I believe. It really opened my eyes to what is going on.

But our government wont do anything about it. They dont want to until it touches them personally.

Nothing is ever a problem until it starts affecting white middle-class people.

Originally Posted by momof6

Because of my husbands training, I have known about this gang. They are very scary. I wonder how many sanctuary cities are exposing their citizens to these type of people. I think we are going to be having civil wars within our own country down the road. We cannot continue down this path of destruction that our towns and government are doing nothing about.

I use to believe that America was a great country. But it is slowly crumbling.

I wonder if Lita would invite these poor MS-13 illegals to her house for a nice warm meal?

You don't know anything about what I believe in or who I support, because if you did you would know I don't support gangs or criminals.

JMOO

Originally Posted by lita456

You don't know anything about what I believe in or who I support, because if you did you would know I don't support gangs or criminals.

JMOO

Originally Posted by herlock h.

Hey! That's not fair! I'm white and middle class - and you'ld better believe that I have long been aware of this problem. Not only am I aware but I make my voice heard. I don't believe the problem is the white middle class - I believe it's this lousy republican agenda - they are greedy and selfish and are quite thankful for their hand in the "dumbing down of America". It seems like those are the ones who keep voting them in.

Herlock

You are so right Herlock!!

[airportwoman]

Originally Posted by herlock h.

Hey! That's not fair! I'm white and middle class - and you'ld better believe that I have long been aware of this problem. Not only am I aware but I make my voice heard. I don't believe the problem is the white middle class - I believe it's this lousy republican agenda - they are greedy and selfish and are quite thankful for their hand in the "dumbing down of America". It seems like those are the ones who keep voting them in.

Herlock

I'm white and middle class too, and I too have been aware of this gang for some time.

What I meant is that those in authority do not pay attention until something affects white, middle class people.

[Annie143]

Usually work which white or African-American citizens do not want to or cannot do.

this is so untrue and unfair..... I know many people (white, black, pink or purple) who are doing yard work as we speak and more than one laid off tile setter that would work, if they could get a job that the illegals have taken. I am in a business that sees much hiring of illegals in various endeavors.

I am sick of going into WalMart late at night and the shelf stockers, I ask them where I can find something and they say they do not speak English......grrrrrr ! We had a lot of them in the retail sectors in our area. You would into the stores on Sunday afternoons and they would be standing there, jabbering in Spanish.....I quite buying in those stores.
There is not as many now, with some of the backlash and, they seemed to have found people to take those jobs, so............

The plant in Mississippi that was raided, the locals lined up after that applying for the jobs. Some said they had been trying for years to get on......

The above platitude is poppycock and just some bs some politician came up with to try and make us accept it and I say, YES, we can ship 12 m back and also their families.

Originally Posted by Annie143

this is so untrue and unfair..... I know many people (white, black, pink or purple) who are doing yard work as we speak and more than one laid off tile setter that would work, if they could get a job that the illegals have taken. I am in a business that sees much hiring of illegals in various endeavors.

I am sick of going into WalMart late at night and the shelf stockers, I ask them where I can find something and they say they do not speak English......grrrrrr ! We had a lot of them in the retail sectors in our area. You would into the stores on Sunday afternoons and they would be standing there, jabbering in Spanish.....I quite buying in those stores.
There is not as many now, with some of the backlash and, they seemed to have found people to take those jobs, so............

The plant in Mississippi that was raided, the locals lined up after that applying for the jobs. Some said they had been trying for years to get on......

The above platitude is poppycock and just some bs some politician came up with to try and make us accept it and I say, YES, we can ship 12 m back and also their families.

Hmmmm, I"m wondering, how is your attitude when asking them? Are you one of those woman who see's a hispanic and already assumes that this person can't speak English or you assume they're illegal?

I can see it now:

"Where's the goddamn vacuum bags??!!!"

Hispanic: No habla inglés

What do you say after that? My gawd, they have to start hiring people that can speak english for god sakes!!!!

I don't know which walmart you were talking about, but by me there are hispanics working there as well, and they can speak some words of english and if they can't help you, they'll get you to someone that can.

JMOO

Originally Posted by lita456

Hmmmm, I"m wondering, how is your attitude when asking them? Are you one of those woman who see's a hispanic and already assumes that this person can't speak English or you assume they're illegal?

I can see it now:

"Where's the goddamn vacuum bags??!!!"

Hispanic: No habla inglés

What do you say after that? My gawd, they have to start hiring people that can speak english for god sakes!!!!

I don't know which walmart you were talking about, but by me there are hispanics working there as well, and they can speak some words of english and if they can't help you, they'll get you to someone that can.


JMOO

We are in America and most of us Americans speak English so yes they should hire employees who understand and/or can speak the English language. It makes it easier that way.

[Annie143]

I have no ill feelings towards Hispanics who are here legally, who work for a living to support their families, and obey the laws of the land. But I would like all of them to learn English

I think most ordinary people feel this way. I know I do.