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Old 09-08-2008, 09:51 PM
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What??? If...

Seriously, knowing-what we know now.

If Stacey Anthony were on trial for the murder of Caylee Anthony-based upon what has been discovered thus far-

Could you sentence Stacey Anthony to either the death penalty or life in prison without the possibility of parole?

With what we know now. I could not. Unfortunately.

One of the frustrating things for me-is that the Anthony Family-has answers to questions that any juror or prosecuting attorney would have.

But- they are not going to give it up.

They've obviously circled their wagons-and they are not going to say anything-that could possibly incriminate Stacey.

I'm a bit afraid, that without finding Caylee's body. The police are stymied. I think that's why they rounded up the $5,000. to give to Tim-and asked him to keep searching for Caylee.

However, nature is really-interfering here.

So, she may just get away with it. Your thoughts?
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:54 PM
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Obviously I know too much to fairly be a juror.

That said, given this evidence:

Child vanishes, mother's history, mother doesn't call 911, mother parties happily, physical evidence in trunk indicates Caylee is dead, mother lies...

G U I L T Y!!!!!
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:23 PM
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I couldn't convict 'Stacey' Anthony... But I could probably convict Casey anthony.
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:39 PM
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I say put Casey Anthony back in jail and let poor Stacey Anthony go. That poor girl always taking the fall for Casey in your posts.
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:45 PM
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I say put Casey Anthony back in jail and let poor Stacey Anthony go. That poor girl always taking the fall for Casey in your posts.
This was my thought to a tee. I'm wondering if the OP isn't trying to get everyone riled up.

Having said that, I could most definitely find Casey guilty today. Given a bit more, I could probably also opt for the death penalty (though not today given what we currently know for a fact).
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:09 PM
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I could easily find her guilty and sentence her to LWOP.
The decomposition in the back of her car is proof enough for me.
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:15 PM
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There are a lot of people that don't know about this case. I don't know about how it is in Florida. Maybe we're the only ones consumed by this, those that are on the board.
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:29 PM
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I couldn't convict 'Stacey' Anthony... But I could probably convict Casey anthony.
ok...ok....that is exactly what I was thinking
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:49 PM
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I couldn't convict 'Stacey' Anthony... But I could probably convict Casey anthony.
im with you and firefly stacey is innocent


casey, on the other hand---is guilty as H E DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS


that said --- ive been on a jury before and i would do my best to follow the judges instructions

and truely i think i could
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:18 AM
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Flamming Mad I wholeheartedly take back my vote last week of accidental

I could definitely convict after finding out tonite, after listening to Nancy Grace, that 'significant' amounts of chloroform (not trace amounts) were found in the trunk; the chloroform computer searches; that Casey had a 'significant' arguement with Cindy who had gone to a counselor and was going to kick Casey out; insist Casey get a real job all b/4 Cindy could become a legal guardian and protect this poor child. There is even a neighbor who heard this arguement.

I sadly believe that Casey was enormously jealous of the love and attention the grandmother gave Caylee and also got the impression that Caylee got in the way of Casey's budding relationship with her boyfriend Tony.

And further damning evidence the story about the three initialed babysitter and her sister Samantha and all her children at a designated park putting Caylee in their vechile and Casey being given a 'script' and outline to follow is just nuts and crazy making me cast a definite conviction of murder in the first and the worst degree.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:28 AM
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I could definitely find her guilty and give her LWOP at this point.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:36 AM
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I could definitely find her guilty and give her LWOP at this point.
Good for you...I do believe in the d/p...given the right circumstances...but at this point...I don't know if I could convict using capital punishment. However, give me some more condemning evidence...and... can you hear old sparkey in the back ground...snap...crackle...pop....
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:39 AM
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I say yes. Guilty of murder ! Lwop
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:43 AM
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Sorry gang

there will be aggravating circumstances when all the facts (not lies) are in...and she will receive the d/p. The trial may have to be moved to another county...but she will receive the d/p. LWOPP isn't good enough!
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:44 AM
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Good for you...I do believe in the d/p...given the right circumstances...but at this point...I don't know if I could convict using capital punishment. However, give me some more condemning evidence...and... can you hear old sparkey in the back ground...snap...crackle...pop....
ITA. Just a little more evidence and I could go for the DP, too.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:29 AM
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I could easily find her guilty and sentence her to LWOP.
The decomposition in the back of her car is proof enough for me.
ita...guilty...lwop...
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:31 AM
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There are a lot of people that don't know about this case. I don't know about how it is in Florida. Maybe we're the only ones consumed by this, those that are on the board.

i definitely think we are a unique group of ppl with a common interest...it's kinda like a book club, except we have to guess at what happens next....
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:31 AM
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Guilty....LWOP with the condition she has to listen to Cindy drone on and on and on 12 hours a day.

She will eventually beg for the DP.
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Old 09-09-2008, 02:32 AM
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There is definately enough evidence for the State to convince me beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey killed Caylee. I could convict her faster than her Mom can wield that .

However, I would be surprised if Florida seeks the DP against a woman.
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:38 AM
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I could absolutely convict her now, without a doubt.
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:23 AM
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I wouldn't be able to choose 'guilty' at this point.
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:26 AM
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Guilty....LWOP with the condition she has to listen to Cindy drone on and on and on 12 hours a day.

She will eventually beg for the DP.

And she has to watch those videos of her baby all day long, every day.
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:08 AM
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I could definitely convict Casey if I were a juror!!!
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:12 AM
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I could convict........And I could give the DP also!!
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:31 AM
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I could positively convict at this juncture - LWOP.
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:44 AM
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As a juror I could not convict casey anthony yet. I would
need to hear her defense first. After hearing the defense's case in
chief then I could render a verdict.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:03 AM
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Seriously, knowing-what we know now.

If Stacey Anthony were on trial for the murder of Caylee Anthony-based upon what has been discovered thus far-

Could you sentence Stacey Anthony to either the death penalty or life in prison without the possibility of parole?

With what we know now. I could not. Unfortunately.

One of the frustrating things for me-is that the Anthony Family-has answers to questions that any juror or prosecuting attorney would have.

But- they are not going to give it up.

They've obviously circled their wagons-and they are not going to say anything-that could possibly incriminate Stacey.

I'm a bit afraid, that without finding Caylee's body. The police are stymied. I think that's why they rounded up the $5,000. to give to Tim-and asked him to keep searching for Caylee.

However, nature is really-interfering here.

So, she may just get away with it. Your thoughts?
Assuming that we know everything (which we probably don't) and assuming that what we know is accurate, then yes, I think I could find her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. IMO murder convictions have been handed down with far less evidence than what is supposedly available in this case. There have been convictions with no forensic evidence and just an eyewitness testimony.

I do think, however, that a good (the key word being "good") defense attorney could successfully introduce reasonable doubt. So if she was arrested today, I really think it would be a toss up as to whether she is found guilty.

I also think LE probably has all they're ever going to have and should probably make an arrest soon, before this family has a chance to get their collective story straight.

IMO finding the body isn't going to help the case in any way, other than proving beyond a doubt that Caylee is dead. But I think the forensics solidly establish that. I think the body will tell us precious little about who and how, and the defense could just as easily say that Zenaida and Sam did it after they took off with Caylee.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:15 AM
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Yes, I sure could.

I'm glad police are taking their time. When it happens, I wouldn't be surprised if Baez invokes her "speedy trial" right... so the police/ prosecutors best have all their ducks in a V before charging her.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:30 AM
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finding the body

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Assuming that we know everything (which we probably don't) and assuming that what we know is accurate, then yes, I think I could find her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. IMO murder convictions have been handed down with far less evidence than what is supposedly available in this case. There have been convictions with no forensic evidence and just an eyewitness testimony.

I do think, however, that a good (the key word being "good") defense attorney could successfully introduce reasonable doubt. So if she was arrested today, I really think it would be a toss up as to whether she is found guilty.

I also think LE probably has all they're ever going to have and should probably make an arrest soon, before this family has a chance to get their collective story straight.

IMO finding the body isn't going to help the case in any way, other than proving beyond a doubt that Caylee is dead. But I think the forensics solidly establish that. I think the body will tell us precious little about who and how, and the defense could just as easily say that Zenaida and Sam did it after they took off with Caylee.

It will prove it was in Casey's car! that there were no kidnappers and that Casey was the last person with her and that the body was decomposed enough to stink up the trunk so it was there for a few days. That is enough to prove murder or negligent accident and if Casey isnt going to talk and come clean then murder is the option.

If it was by accident she could at least explain it. Either way her total lack of concern afterwards ....need I say more.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:45 AM
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:52 AM
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The only "evidence" so far is from press leaks and a few statements made by LE, however, knowing just what we do from watching NG and GVS, I certainly could convict...But wait LE "really" tells all they know. I have a feeling that Grandfolks are going to see the inside of a jailcell for withholding incriminating information.THEYknow what happened to Caylee, IMO, that's the worst injustice, to protect the daughter when they know she did it, accident or not. IMO, put em ALL in jail, Darnit
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:58 AM
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It will prove it was in Casey's car! that there were no kidnappers and that Casey was the last person with her and that the body was decomposed enough to stink up the trunk so it was there for a few days. That is enough to prove murder or negligent accident and if Casey isnt going to talk and come clean then murder is the option.

If it was by accident she could at least explain it. Either way her total lack of concern afterwards ....need I say more.
I think the hair in the trunk is enough to prove that Caylee was in the trunk and that she was dead, even in the absence of a body. I don't think the body will tell us anything we don't already know, so if the body isn't found, I don't think the case will be harmed. IMO

But I totally agree, there's enough for murder IMO
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:16 AM
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If what we've heard via the media so far became testimony in a court of law, then yes, I would vote GUILTY.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:32 AM
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Nancy Grace is a liar who has a history of making stuff up, so I don't know if I believe the "significant" amounts of chloroform or "Definitely was a dead body and nothing else" arguments that are dramatically barked out of her angry and gaping maw all the time.

I don't think, when I ignore the evidence as presented by Nancy and focus on what the facts I've seen are, that the evidence is as damning as she wants it to be.

I don't think I can convict at that point.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:42 AM
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I'm pretty convinced Casey was responsible for Caylee's death, and it was probably premiditated murder, but I just couldn't convict her without giving the defense a chance to present her side and hearing the full forensics results...not just the preliminary results we've heard so far. It would go against everything I was taught about our justice system in the U.S. I have sat on a jury several times, and was surprised more than once by the evidence presented. One was a well known case around here and most people were convinced of the defendants guilt at the start of the trial, but we ended up aquitting him because a lot of what we'd heard in the media was false, and the defense had some pretty convincing evidence that the defandant was innocent and not even in the state at the time of the crime.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:48 AM
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From an opinion as a message board poster, I certainly could convict her. I think she is guilty as sin.

However; a juror never would unless the true supporting evidence was presented under oath in a court of law. A juror would not take what the press has leaked as evidence, even though it may be true. They would have to vow to set all that aside if chosen to be a juror on this case.

As far as the existing charges I do believe that the State has ample evidence to show she is guilty of those crimes.

I do believe that the DA will charge her when he believes he has the evidence he needs to convict her of killing and hiding Caylee's body. Evidently, since she has not been charged yet, they are still needing more evidence to prove their case. I certainly hope they find that compelling evidence that will result in Casey being arrested and charged for murdering her little daughter and I hope they find it soon.

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Old 09-09-2008, 10:50 AM
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I've been on a jury before, and I would have to say that I don't know right now whether I could convict or not. We don't know how much of the evidence is going to be allowed in court. You have to base your decision on what is presented as evidence, not what you think happened, or what your feelings are. Also, we don't know what is going to be further released from now until the trial. She has not even been charged with homicide. For all we know, she will only be going to trial on the neglect and lying to LE and the theft, as it stands right now.
I do believe she will be charged with some form of homicide somewhere down the road, but we don't know that for a fact right now. So, based on what we DO know... I would have to say NO.
In my heart, I believe she is guilty... but my brain tells me we don't know everything at this point.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:03 PM
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What do you think the grandparents actually believe?

1. The GP know Casey killed Caylee, but will blame it on the "kidnappers."

2. They know caylee is dead but actually "believe" that someone other then Casey killed her.

3. They think Caylee is alive, but if proven wrong (body found) they will blame Casey.

4. They believe Caylee is alive and with the kidnappers.

5. They believe Caylee is alive and that Casey sold her or gave her away.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:14 PM
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6. Deep down they know that Caylee and is dead and Casey killed her and they can't face the truth and that's why their denial is so deep. The truth is far too painful.

You can't be in denial if you don't on some level know something you have to deny.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:29 PM
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6. Deep down they know that Caylee and is dead and Casey killed her and they can't face the truth and that's why their denial is so deep. The truth is far too painful.
This is what I believe, too. Deny, deny. They need to open their eyes.
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