Did Casey Cause Caylee's Death?

[cloe23]

Can anyone start a poll? I do not know how. I do believe that the child is not with us, but was it only the mother?

[barskin&co.]

Originally posted by cloe23 [*]Can anyone start a poll? I do not know how. I do believe that the child is not with us, but was it only the mother? [/*]

Yes.

yes i agree, caylee died at the hands of casey. casey murdererd her. so very sad : (

for Caylee

[Unperson1984]

I concur. Although I'm not sure LE's theory of the crime is correct.

[cloe23]

Originally posted by Unperson1984 [*]I concur. Although I'm not sure LE's theory of the crime is correct. [/*]

ITA IMO she worked alone, the babe is gone and WILL be found.
I have been hoping that some dumb cop was not involved.

So who helped her? Grandparents or lover? Or did she act alone? IMO the younger generation do not keep secrets.
Keeping in mind that that the child's brain dose not mature until the age of 25. JMO
Anyone? I have always thought that there is no such thing as a perfect crime, what make this gal so clever?
Cloe

[luvinlife]

I believe Casey and Casey alone killed Caylee.

IMO it was premeditated or in anger.

[Bird]

Yes.

[cloe23]

[quote]Originally posted by luvinlife [*]I believe Casey and Casey alone killed Caylee.

IMO it was premeditated or in anger. [/*][/QUOTE

I agree, but I am in question about the cover up part.
She is just a kid, she had to of talked, JMO
I taste a cover up.

[nana2]

first degree capital murder caysee

witness tampering cindy

obstruction of justice cindy and george

moo

[taylor63]

Originally posted by cloe23 [*]Can anyone start a poll? I do not know how. I do believe that the child is not with us, but was it only the mother? [/*]

I believe it was only the mother, I don't think the grandparent's were involved, but I do think it is possible that they are subconciously if not even conciously trying to cover for their daughter now out of fear she will go to prison for life or even get the death penalty. I don't know if the police will ever find the baby because I am afraid the mother might have used the gas can's to burn her body.

[deep*fear]

Originally posted by nana2 [*]first degree capital murder caysee

witness tampering cindy

obstruction of justice cindy and george

moo [/*]

I think so, too.

[kellabeck]

IMO, Casey killed Caylee and the motive was spite and selfishness.

[tanata]

Originally posted by cloe23 [*]
I have always thought that there is no such thing as a perfect crime, what make this gal so clever?
Cloe [/*]

I don't think it's that she is clever; rather, I think she believes her own lies. She's a sociopath living in a fantasy world. In her mind, she's not guilty of anything.

I think her family is partly to blame, as they seem to be enablers. I hope that as her true colors become more apparent as this case progresses, her family will finally see her for who she really is.

I do think she worked alone. I am not sure how Caylee died, but I think after it happened, her body was put into a dumpster (imo). I recall a conversation from jail between Casey and a friend of hers, and when her friend asked her if she knew where Caylee was, Casey said something to the affect of "I do not know where she is. That is the truth. The absolute truth."

Oh, I think that WAS the truth; probably the one true thing Casey has said during this entire ordeal. And I think that's because she disposed of her daughter's body in a dumpster, and the dumpster had since been emptied by that point, so she honestly didn't know where Caylee was..... now.

This is all speculation on my part. As always, just my opinion.

Originally posted by cloe23 [*]Can anyone start a poll? I do not know how. I do believe that the child is not with us, but was it only the mother? [/*]

YES imo

~~~Caylee~~~

[joolz]

Originally posted by cloe23 [*]

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ITA IMO she worked alone, the babe is gone and WILL be found.
I have been hoping that some dumb cop was not involved.

Cloe [/*]

Huh? Some dumb cop? What are you talking about? There has been absolutely no hint of that anywhere.

Originally posted by nana2 [*]first degree capital murder caysee

witness tampering cindy

obstruction of justice cindy and george

moo [/*]

yep,
yep,
& yep.

Originally posted by kellabeck [*]IMO, Casey killed Caylee and the motive was spite and selfishness. [/*]

yep.

[shelbar53]

IMO, I think casey wanted the single life and murdered her child and planned on telling her mom that she was taken but is safe unless someone looks for her...never dreaming in a million years her mom would call the police, cindy never in a million years thought casey would murder caylee called the police then realized casey was responsible so the cover up began...dont know if the cover up included the actual disposal of the body.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Texanne [*]I think this monster murdred her own child and that the grandparents helped dispose of the body. All should rot in jail if a jury cannot bring itself to give the death penalty. I usually stay away from this subject because I am sick of the way it is being drug out. Is the LE there composed of snails? [/*]

(re the GPs helping dispose the body)

[HANNAH ROSE]

I believe Caylee is dead. I don't know if I believe it was pre-meditated more than an accident in some fashion. But regardless Casey covered it up.

With the findings of traces of a large amount of cholorform found in the car I wonder if Casey was involved with manufacturing or helping someone manufactur meth. Perhaps Caylee ingested drugs and died and Casey, knowing she'd face jail time for it, got rid of Caylee and made up the story of her abduction.

I don't think the grandparents were in on it otherwise they wouldn't have gotten the police involved in the first place. I think they're flat out in denial just like Lee and Jackie Peterson.

I don't now if she had any help but I doubt it. This is a pretty big thing to cover up and I don't think she had any serious friendships that would warrant this kind of help. She had no money to pay someone and the only people that paid attention to her were men and I don't think an average guy would agree to cover up a baby's death for a once night stand.

I've often read that throughout a string of lies there are some tidbits of truth, it's just a matter of pulling the lies apart to get to the truth.

JMO

[starling]

Casey acted alone
IMO she has(somehow)alluded to her parents,brother & lawyer that the child is long gone to a landfill...Lawyer is telling her to stay rock solid quiet...Family has accepted not retrieving the deceased Caylee,thus saving the living Casey.
The BH played dumb so they let him in the house (inner circle,whatever) a little.
Just enough that he knows now. I thought BH was a crazy media seeker but I think BH found what and why..now he just needs the where.

JMO
Godspeed little Caylee

[DoubleFelix]

Originally posted by HANNAH ROSE [*]I believe Caylee is dead. I don't know if I believe it was pre-meditated more than an accident in some fashion. But regardless Casey covered it up.

With the findings of traces of a large amount of cholorform found in the car I wonder if Casey was involved with manufacturing or helping someone manufactur meth. Perhaps Caylee ingested drugs and died and Casey, knowing she'd face jail time for it, got rid of Caylee and made up the story of her abduction.

I don't think the grandparents were in on it otherwise they wouldn't have gotten the police involved in the first place. I think they're flat out in denial just like Lee and Jackie Peterson.

I don't now if she had any help but I doubt it. This is a pretty big thing to cover up and I don't think she had any serious friendships that would warrant this kind of help. She had no money to pay someone and the only people that paid attention to her were men and I don't think an average guy would agree to cover up a baby's death for a once night stand.

I've often read that throughout a string of lies there are some tidbits of truth, it's just a matter of pulling the lies apart to get to the truth.

JMO [/*]

This would make her lawyer's requesting immunity make sense, for sure. "Don't penalize me for the drugs, and I'll tell what happened to Caylee."

IMO

Sadly I believe Caylee is no longer with us, and I think Casey acted alone.

I think Cindy and George are oblivious to the fact that their daughter is a self absorbed, miserable person who murdered her own beautiful baby to get her own way, which was freedom of responsibility.





For Caylee

[Adalena935]

Originally posted by Unperson1984 [*]I concur. Although I'm not sure LE's theory of the crime is correct. [/*]

LE hasen't stated a theory. They haven't ever charged her with murder - yet.

They've said she's lied to them about the missing child and they charged her with child neglect. They said she lied to them and to her parents. But I never heard any theory about a crime other than that.

[aubrey04]

Originally posted by nana2 [*]first degree capital murder caysee

witness tampering cindy

obstruction of justice cindy and george

moo [/*]

Ohhh. I really hope that's how it pans out. That's the way it SHOULD work out. More people need to be charged other than Casey (IE the GPs).

[Adalena935]

Originally posted by nana2 [*]first degree capital murder caysee

witness tampering cindy

obstruction of justice cindy and george

moo [/*]

I agree although I would be surprised if they charged the grandparents. I think they just want Casey on murder #1.

[frances1]

Originally posted by joolz [*]

Huh? Some dumb cop? What are you talking about? There has been absolutely no hint of that anywhere. [/*]

I think it refers to one of Casey's exes. Nothing to tie him to it that I have seen.

[barskin&co.]

Premeditation, under the law, can be just a moment. I say murder.

Yes, premeditated murder.

Originally posted by Texanne [*]I think this monster murdred her own child and that the grandparents helped dispose of the body. All should rot in jail if a jury cannot bring itself to give the death penalty. I usually stay away from this subject because I am sick of the way it is being drug out. Is the LE there composed of snails? [/*]

Then why call the police and say the car smelled like there had been a dead body in it? I listened to that call, and I think Cindy is as much a victim of Casey as Caylee was. She just hasn't stopped breathing yet.

[Staceylee]

I think that Casey was alone in this and cannot stand the thought of her parents knowing what she did so she will never admit to this. The parents cannot stand the thought that she could have done such a thing so they will continue on in denial. All the while hoping and praying that they will find her alive and her prayers will be answered. I do however think that Cindy is worried and that it is her fear that Casey may have been involved (although she will never admit it publicly). I think it is very possible that she washed the jeans from the trunk and possibly cleaned the trunk to try and get rid of evidence that could damage her daughter's defense should she need one. I think she may feel that it is very possible that she has already lost her granddaughter and that she cannot lose her daughter as well. JMO

[oxfordfox]

I believe Casey acted alone. The mother Cindy never would have blurted out about the car smelling like a dead body if she had herself been involved. She sounded very indignant when she said it. I think it was the only true thing that has come from her mouth. Everything else from her has been coverup, an attempt to harrass, confound and confuse anyone seeking the truth.

[HANNAH ROSE]

I think once Cindy realized that Caylee was indeed missing, she went into panic mode to protect her daughter. Had she known anything at all she never would have said anything about the car smelling like decomposition.

I guess I can't blame someone for trying to protect someone they love but the evidence speaks for itself. Every time I see her on tv I'm disgusted by her desperate attempts to explain things away when the obvious truth is that her granddaughter is dead. She's not even trying to put the blame on someone else, she's just pushing and pushing that Caylee is still alive somewhere when it's painfully clear to everyone else that sadly this is not the case.

My feeling is that even when Caylee is found Cindy will still defend her daughter. It's obvious that that's her deep down desire and she'll fight tooth and nail to try to prove Casey's innocence until the day she dies.

Again I say she needs to call Jackie Peterson and have a pity party over their narcissistic, cold-blooded, murdering children.

JMO.

MURDER 1.

[ALL RISE]

Originally posted by HANNAH ROSE [*]I believe Caylee is dead. I don't know if I believe it was pre-meditated more than an accident in some fashion. But regardless Casey covered it up.

With the findings of traces of a large amount of cholorform found in the car I wonder if Casey was involved with manufacturing or helping someone manufactur meth. Perhaps Caylee ingested drugs and died and Casey, knowing she'd face jail time for it, got rid of Caylee and made up the story of her abduction.

I don't think the grandparents were in on it otherwise they wouldn't have gotten the police involved in the first place. I think they're flat out in denial just like Lee and Jackie Peterson.

I don't now if she had any help but I doubt it. This is a pretty big thing to cover up and I don't think she had any serious friendships that would warrant this kind of help. She had no money to pay someone and the only people that paid attention to her were men and I don't think an average guy would agree to cover up a baby's death for a once night stand.

I've often read that throughout a string of lies there are some tidbits of truth, it's just a matter of pulling the lies apart to get to the truth.

JMO [/*]

Is choloform in Meth?

I'm believing that Casey used the choloform as a 'party drug' to put Caylee to sleep so she could party party party..and inasmuch as this drug (is not only illegal since the 70's) but impossible to measure..Caylee inhaled too much...thus death...if Casey put Caylee in the car seat in her car, authorities certainly would have caught her; thus the sociopath being smarter than the authorities, put her daughter in the trunk...that is just lower than low...

we saw it */4 in the murder trial of the daycare worker using benedryl....on the infant....that drug wasn't strong enough....for Casey...and two computer searches on Casey's computer re cholorform ....

[HANNAH ROSE]

Originally posted by ALL RISE [*]

Is choloform in Meth?

I'm believing that Casey used the choloform as a 'party drug' to put Caylee to sleep so she could party party party..and inasmuch as this drug (is not only illegal since the 70's) but impossible to measure..Caylee inhaled too much...thus death...we saw it */4 in the murder trial of the daycare worker with the benedryl....that drug wasn't strong enough....and two computer searches on Casey's computer re this drug... [/*]

I believe I read that chloroform is used to make meth. I could be wrong if someone wants to correct me..

[ALL RISE]

Originally posted by HANNAH ROSE [*]

I believe I read that chloroform is used to make meth. I could be wrong if someone wants to correct me.. [/*]

Thanks anyway!

[ALL RISE]

If a parent used an illegal drug (choloform) to put their child to sleep; in a trunk; is that accidental (in the worst degree!)?

[Raven]

Originally posted by barskin&co. [*]Premeditation, under the law, can be just a moment. I say murder. [/*]

ITA!!! Who drives around with chloroform on their person? Pre~meditated and first degree murder.....this IS Florida and they do have the death penalty and only what....6.....on a jury?

[shellzbi]

Originally posted by barskin&co. [*]Premeditation, under the law, can be just a moment. I say murder. [/*]

I'm with you Bar.