"Results to shock the world"

[forensicsgal]

that is what the bounty hunter just said on Nancy Graces' show. Also talked about the dumpster by boyfriend Tonys' house. He said people will be shocked when the results come in. Hmmmm, said that right after goofy GM was on talking about Caylee being kidnapped again. He said GM is in total denial!! No kidding, we all knew that.

[CANDYKISSES]

Don't forget, that's when Cindy didn't want the media anymore etc...

It must be a helluva find if you ask me. So who has any ideas at this point?

[forensicsgal]

I believe LE has something big, why else would he say that? Just putting it all together for the murder charges, IMO.

[TxLady2]

Didn't y'all just LOVE NG tonight?? What a bombshell!!! Cindy wants everybody to look, but doesn't know where. Maybe in Texas, maybe in Puerto Rico, or Mexico.

Leonard is used to sleuthing... maybe he's talked to investigators and knows something we don't know. Obviously he knows more than Cindy knows!!!!!

[forensicsgal]

Originally posted by TxLady2 [*]Didn't y'all just LOVE NG tonight?? What a bombshell!!! Cindy wants everybody to look, but doesn't know where. Maybe in Texas, maybe in Puerto Rico, or Mexico.

Leonard is used to sleuthing... maybe he's talked to investigators and knows something we don't know. Obviously he knows more than Cindy knows!!!!! [/*]

Is Cindy going to pay for all of us to go to these places to look for Caylee? That poor little girl has been long deceased by the hands of her mother, don't u get it Cindy??

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by forensicsgal [*]that is what the bounty hunter just said on Nancy Graces' show. Also talked about the dumpster by boyfriend Tonys' house. He said people will be shocked when the results come in. Hmmmm, said that right after goofy GM was on talking about Caylee being kidnapped again. He said GM is in total denial!! No kidding, we all knew that. [/*]

For some reason I instantly thought about the stain. One of the detectives stressed that they had the results on the strands of hair and it was not the stain that led them to believe she was deceased.

It made me believe they are protecting those results from the stain as their ace in the hole. The detective also said that they had lots of tests that were expected back soon.

LE is gathering steam now.

imoo

[babblefishie]

I firmly believe that the stain will end up being a bodily fluid linked to a living person. I know it's horrible to think about, but I think that Casey did put her to sleep in the trunk. The stain could be vomit, urine etc. I think that's the shocking thing they are going to reveal -- that Caylee died in the trunk and was left there and then hidden briefly at the house and then moved to God knows where.

[forensicsgal]

Originally posted by babblefishie [*]I firmly believe that the stain will end up being a bodily fluid linked to a living person. I know it's horrible to think about, but I think that Casey did put her to sleep in the trunk. The stain could be vomit, urine etc. I think that's the shocking thing they are going to reveal -- that Caylee died in the trunk and was left there and then hidden briefly at the house and then moved to God knows where. [/*]

Sounds right on, that's why he said "it would shock the world when the results are told"!! Because I'm assuming people would not believe she did what she did. But he did mention that dumpster near the boyfriends apartment also.

[farrahrani]

Someone mentioned in an interview a while back, that decomposing bodies leak fluid. I wonder if that's what the stain was.

[Adalena935]

Originally posted by forensicsgal [*]I believe LE has something big, why else would he say that? Just putting it all together for the murder charges, IMO. [/*]

I think so too. Just heard Nancy Grace say LE has additional forensics information that proves Caylee is dead. (besides the trunk evidence with decomp and her hair)

Thanks for this thread and the info you've passed onto us.

[Susanc]

I saw that, too! I mean what Leonard said about the dumpster. I had to rerun it and make sure what I heard was right. Made me sick to my stomach. I have seen Tim Miller on tv a lot, but never have seen him in that kind of mood. He is really disgusted, seemed like to me and didn't really know which way to go. Cindy was saying that she got him there to search for Caylee alive. I always thought they didn't call him in until they were looking for a body. I just think the grandparents need to get a clue. Cindy is really lame and nearly delusional in my opinion. I know that is the last thing you would want to believe, that your grandchild was deceased and maybe at the hands of her mother. But there would come a time when you would just have to logically figure it out.

[Susanc]

You know, I noticed something when I first saw the grandma and Caylee's pic. Caylee looks like CINDY, not Casey. I don't think Casey looks like Cindy at all. Just an observation. Any thoughts?

[ccat]

Originally posted by Amy S. [*]Someone said originally that this case was going to be sicker than any of us could imagine.

Some of us have wondered "was Caylee conceived out of incest?" or was the little body tossed to the alligators?

Now, I wonder if there was semen in the trunk?

No links to anything, just wild guesses. [/*]

I wondered about Caylee's father, too. But it appears that Casey "gets around" and she may not even know.

[Adalena935]

Originally posted by Susanc [*]You know, I noticed something when I first saw the grandma and Caylee's pic. Caylee looks like CINDY, not Casey. I don't think Casey looks like Cindy at all. Just an observation. Any thoughts? [/*]

Children often resemble other family members including grandparents. They often don't look much like their parents. My husband often quipped standing next to our son's you wouldn't know we were related. shrug

Casey resembles her father, George a lot I think.

Doesn't seem very important in the scheme of things to me. Why, what are you eluding to if anything?

[Adalena935]

Originally posted by jmgos1 [*]


Well I came up with signs of dismemberment, I think just the thought would [shock the world] [/*]

Oh I never thought of that. That would be shocking.

[Adalena935]

Originally posted by Susanc [*]I saw that, too! I mean what Leonard said about the dumpster. I had to rerun it and make sure what I heard was right. Made me sick to my stomach. I have seen Tim Miller on tv a lot, but never have seen him in that kind of mood. He is really disgusted, seemed like to me and didn't really know which way to go. Cindy was saying that she got him there to search for Caylee alive. I always thought they didn't call him in until they were looking for a body. I just think the grandparents need to get a clue. Cindy is really lame and nearly delusional in my opinion. I know that is the last thing you would want to believe, that your grandchild was deceased and maybe at the hands of her mother. But there would come a time when you would just have to logically figure it out. [/*]

I think so too. I even wonder if it's delusion at this point. Tonite on nancy grace they showed a clip of a woman (protester I guess) confronting Cindy with her denial telling her it was she who first noted the dead body smell. Cindy didn't deny the woman's confrontation.

ETA: I think Cindy's just protecting Casey and has been all along.

[Adalena935]

Originally posted by farrahrani [*]Someone mentioned in an interview a while back, that decomposing bodies leak fluid. I wonder if that's what the stain was. [/*]

That's been my assumption. Noted that I might be wrong. It would sock me to learn she had been locking the baby in the trunk. Such a cruel thing to contemplate for a baby. My heart just aches for that baby. She's still out there. God Bless Tim Miller and his searchers. I so hope they find her to give her a proper burial. It haunts me.

[summer4meplz]

don't you think it's so obvious that tim is leaving because he knows what le, cindy, casey, and lee knows....and lenny, thank you lenny for your comment...it couldn't be her body though could it...why would they wait even a second if they have her body?

and why didn't he mention george,? i've got a lot of reading to do to catch up with what every is thinking...

[summer4meplz]

another obvious reason, imo, tim is leaving is because he only comes for the family.....and they don't want him....

i think i forgot to moo on my last comment...sorry...my comments are always only mine unless i add a link, and i don't know how to do that...

[Duckaroo]

Sorry..I'm just getting home and didn't get to catch NG, did I miss some new info or something big?

[Velouria]

Didn't Leonard say that whatever this shocking thing is that Casey, Cindy, and Lee have known about it all along - or something to that effect??

[SpecialK]

Originally posted by Velouria [*]Didn't Leonard say that whatever this shocking thing is that Casey, Cindy, and Lee have known about it all along - or something to that effect?? [/*]

BH said he believed the family had known since Wednesday when the news on the forensics broke that Caylee was gone. IIRC...

[SpecialK]

So, how would Lenny have knowledge of the interest in the dumpster? Did he say 1.25 miles from Tony's? That's pretty specific to just be throwing that around. Has LE already collected evidence from that dumpster? Is the dumpster still there? Lenny isn't even in Orlando anymore. Where is he getting this stuff?

I posted this on tonight's thread. Will put it here to see what y'all think.

Can someone fill me in real quick about the dumpster that we saw a photo of. Not the one at the Amscott, the one that was released at the time of the 400+ pg. doc dump. Did I read a few pages back that LE retrieved that photo from Casey's computer?


OK, I'm just going to throw out this thought that I had after hearing Padilla talk about a dumpster located 1+ mile from Tony's place.

I've always believed that the gas cans were used to put gas in her car. Now I wonder if she could have placed Caylee in that dumpster and soaked the dumpster with gas from the cans then set it on fire.

Maybe after this case hit the media someone recalled there being a dumpster fire and reported it. Maybe evidence of an accelerant was discovered but the contents had long been dumped.

Could some smidgen of evidence have remained in the dumpster? Some evidence of a burned body? Something? Anything?

Originally posted by summer4meplz [*]don't you think it's so obvious that tim is leaving because he knows what le, cindy, casey, and lee knows....and lenny, thank you lenny for your comment...it couldn't be her body though could it...why would they wait even a second if they have her body?

and why didn't he mention george,? i've got a lot of reading to do to catch up with what every is thinking... [/*]

Yes I caught that, mentioned Lee but not George. Think that was just an error on LP's part??

Originally posted by Chevalier [*]I posted this on tonight's thread. Will put it here to see what y'all think.

Can someone fill me in real quick about the dumpster that we saw a photo of. Not the one at the Amscott, the one that was released at the time of the 400+ pg. doc dump. Did I read a few pages back that LE retrieved that photo from Casey's computer?


OK, I'm just going to throw out this thought that I had after hearing Padilla talk about a dumpster located 1+ mile from Tony's place.

I've always believed that the gas cans were used to put gas in her car. Now I wonder if she could have placed Caylee in that dumpster and soaked the dumpster with gas from the cans then set it on fire.

Maybe after this case hit the media someone recalled there being a dumpster fire and reported it. Maybe evidence of an accelerant was discovered but the contents had long been dumped.

Could some smidgen of evidence have remained in the dumpster? Some evidence of a burned body? Something? Anything? [/*]

Would the dogs still hit on it??

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by cher_fl [*]

Yes I caught that, mentioned Lee but not George. Think that was just an error on LP's part?? [/*]

i don't think it was an error on lp's part, but i sure don't know what it means either...

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by summer4meplz [*]

i don't think it was an error on lp's part, but i sure don't know what it means either... [/*]

I don't know if Padilla mentioning Lee's name is an error, but either Lee or George would fit; or Cindy would fit too. IMO.

p.s. you need to sweep your porch! and clear the debris from your PM control tower!

[Noahs ARK]

Originally posted by forensicsgal [*]

Sounds right on, that's why he said "it would shock the world when the results are told"!! Because I'm assuming people would not believe she did what she did. But he did mention that dumpster near the boyfriends apartment also. [/*]

I'm wondering if there will be another arrest in the near future.

[Carol25]

I'm thinking C and G could be more involved than we think. The COULD be accessories after the fact. If Casey tried to bury her in the backyard and found it to be too difficult, she could have just laid Caylee on the ground where the bamboo was and moved the house on top of her.

When the GP's came home, they moved her to the car to replace her somewhere else the next day. By that time, the body was decomposing at a rapid pace due to the heat. She was dead two days by then.

The denial on the part of the GP's is to save Casey and themselves. Thus, no charges of murder, yet. There will be 3 charged. One for murder, two for cover up.

Now that will be shocking.

Originally posted by babblefishie [*]I firmly believe that the stain will end up being a bodily fluid linked to a living person. I know it's horrible to think about, but I think that Casey did put her to sleep in the trunk. The stain could be vomit, urine etc. I think that's the shocking thing they are going to reveal -- that Caylee died in the trunk and was left there and then hidden briefly at the house and then moved to God knows where. [/*]

I don't believe that Casey would have placed Caylee in the trunk "to put her to sleep". That level of violence to a live child doesn't fit in my opinion. However, a scenario that certainly could have panned out IMO - -

Casey was on a whirlwind of guys-gals-clubing and in the past as Casey's friends told LE that "Caylee would be at the home parties sleeping on a sofa". I certainly could see Casey giving Caylee pills to put her out - - to sleep for several hours. I could see Casey getting real crazy and wreckless with her "whirlwind" sabatical away from her parents and taking Caylee and the burden of having to be a "Mom" -- and Caylee was given pills so Casey could party - shop -- Caylee expired inside the car in her carseat (heat - sedation -- faster lack of oxygen) or at one of her mother's rendevous boyfriend's sleepovers - overdosed Caylee.

The trunk was used to hide the deceased precious body of Caylee and had marked decomposition with the extreme heat in the trunk.

That's my opinion -- theory....

Let me say also the precious spirit of Caylee had transcended and left that body which was than put in trunk till her sick and wreckless Mother could discard and hide her in a manner or state that no one could point the finger at her.

Please keep in mind this also - - (as the case investigation reveals the truth of what happened) Casey is in the "hell" she created and Caylee is a free precious spirit being fulled loved and cared for with Spirit and precious beings who recognize and know the precious one she is.

Precious Caylee is Fully Loved and Is Truly Free of this Imperfect World and Complicated Unjust Life !

Had to state the truth of that precious child Caylee Marie !

[Keno]

Originally posted by Adalena935 [*]

I think so too. I even wonder if it's delusion at this point. Tonite on nancy grace they showed a clip of a woman (protester I guess) confronting Cindy with her denial telling her it was she who first noted the dead body smell. Cindy didn't deny the woman's confrontation.

ETA: I think Cindy's just protecting Casey and has been all along. [/*]

That woman was a nutcase as well. Who does she think she is? Seriously -

I could not believe what I was seeing on tv. No murder charges yet - and here is this wacky lady from a message board getting in Cindy Anthony's face. I truly was shocked.

It's very scary to think a group of on line message board people can gather and do this kind of stuff. Yes, they do have good hearts - many of them but man, there are some, who are "just as evil" as the mother of little Caylee. Did you all see the look on that woman's face? I think had I been there - I'm afraid I would have smacked her. I am dead on serious. Talk about getting TOO WRAPPED up in a case...

[Keno]

I mean no disrespect to anyone here but come on, that's a bit extreme. None of us know what Cindy is feeling inside. Yes, she has made odd ball remarks but look what she is dealing with for crying out loud. Does not take a rocket scientist to see that these grandparents are hurting. I don't care what they are saying...

Adalena, she acted passive because I'm pretty sure she is being heavily medicated to keep her calm and sedate. She is probably in and out half the time. My opinion only... On NG's show they showed Cindy being interviewed and she was slurring her words a bit - not a lot but it appeared she was being kept calm. That's just my opinion. And who the heck wouldn't be? If this was your grandchild, and your daughter may be the one who murdered her - Tell me what grandmother could just take this like a real "woman of steel?"

I hope that lady was not from this board - I so hope she wasn't.

[marabeth]

Originally posted by SpecialK [*]So, how would Lenny have knowledge of the interest in the dumpster? Did he say 1.25 miles from Tony's? That's pretty specific to just be throwing that around. Has LE already collected evidence from that dumpster? Is the dumpster still there? Lenny isn't even in Orlando anymore. Where is he getting this stuff? [/*]

I have no idea unless he has a LE source..I hope he really knows.

[marabeth]

Originally posted by forensicsgal [*]that is what the bounty hunter just said on Nancy Graces' show. Also talked about the dumpster by boyfriend Tonys' house. He said people will be shocked when the results come in. Hmmmm, said that right after goofy GM was on talking about Caylee being kidnapped again. He said GM is in total denial!! No kidding, we all knew that. [/*]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../02/ng.01.html

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, HELPED GET CASEY ANTHONY OUT OF JAIL: Well, here`s the situation, Nancy. I believe that when the FBI, who`s got one of the finest labs in the world comes back with the DNA it`s going to shock the world over something that Lee, Casey and Cindy have known since Wednesday when they released their preliminary.

GRACE: Which is?

PADILLA: . findings. And also the dumpster, a mile and a quarter down from the boyfriend Tony`s house, is going to play a big part in this.

GRACE: What do you say in response to Miss Anthony?

PADILLA: She`s living in total denial.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by SpecialK [*]So, how would Lenny have knowledge of the interest in the dumpster? Did he say 1.25 miles from Tony's? That's pretty specific to just be throwing that around. Has LE already collected evidence from that dumpster? Is the dumpster still there? Lenny isn't even in Orlando anymore. Where is he getting this stuff? [/*]

IIRC, Padilla said part of his "team" is still working on the case in Orlando.

[n/t]

Originally posted by Dragon [*]

This guy has blown as much smoke and BS into this story as Casey has.

I refuse to give any of his statements a serious thought. Name one thing he's said so far that has come to fruition. Name one thing he has committed to and stood by that commitment.

He's a joke. [/*]

I totally agree with you. The guy gets information from message boards, imo. He was totally clueless before and is totally clueless now. He doesn't have any more information than we do. He's lost total credibility as far as I'm concerned.

When I heard he was on NG again, I didn't watch. I think LP got his 15 minutes and more and should stay away now and let LE do their job. I hope Nancy realizes how silly it is to have him on as a guest. She should continue to have experts discussing the case (attorneys, forensics, etc).

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by ?WudScoobyDo [*]

This case has plenty of rumor, speculation and wild guesses. Does it really need any more? [/*]

They are thriving on speculation. So strange how they can dream up some of these thoughts not even thinking these are real people with real feelings going through the worst possible time of their lives and all this speculation is only making it worse for them. They better pray nothing like this ever happens to one of their loved ones and they get the same ugly rumors and speculation they are putting out by complete strangers. They THINK they know so much by "reports" on TV but until the trial where evidence is given under oath it is just hateful gossip and does nothing to find Caylee.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by marabeth [*]
I have no idea unless he has a LE source..I hope he really knows. [/*]

Unless he actually SAW the report he knows no more than anyone else. "Sources" do not always tell the truth but they sure do put "leaks" out there with no facts to back them up.

Originally posted by Noahs ARK [*]

I could've sworn I heard on tv that George wasn't Casey's biological father.

I can't remember which show, tho.

Did anyone else hear this? [/*]

You know I thought I heard that in the very first news coverage of this story. IIRC they said they called Cindy the mother and George the step-father and then the next day it was stated as Cindy and George as the mother and father. I have been confused too.