June 26th - 27th

Carrying over discussion from the June 24th/25th thread.



Judge Delucchi considered Diane Jackson's report to be fully truthful. So he permitted it to be admitted "for the truth."

Prosecutors never claimed that the report was inaccurate or untruthful. Nor did prosecutors have Sgt. Steele testify so as to impeach Diane Jackson's report wherein she told LE that she saw three men, a van and a safe at 11:40AM on Xmas Eve in front of the Medina's residence.

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]Carrying over discussion from the June 24th/25th thread.



Judge Delucchi considered Diane Jackson's report to be fully truthful. So he permitted it to be admitted "for the truth."

Prosecutors never claimed that the report was inaccurate or untruthful. Nor did prosecutors have Sgt. Steele testify so as to impeach Diane Jackson's report wherein she told LE that she saw three men, a van and a safe at 11:40AM on Xmas Eve in front of the Medina's residence. [/*]

so who were those three dark-skinned men? Did they ever really find out? And why has no one ever figured out who they were?

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]Carrying over discussion from the June 24th/25th thread.



Judge Delucchi considered Diane Jackson's report to be fully truthful. So he permitted it to be admitted "for the truth."

Prosecutors never claimed that the report was inaccurate or untruthful. Nor did prosecutors have Sgt. Steele testify so as to impeach Diane Jackson's report wherein she told LE that she saw three men, a van and a safe at 11:40AM on Xmas Eve in front of the Medina's residence. [/*]

Sft Steele wan't the one who took her report - check your facts.

Originally posted by higharm [*]

so who were those three dark-skinned men? Did they ever really find out? And why has no one ever figured out who they were? [/*]

One thing for sure - they were not the burglars. Ghe safe was found at the residence of Peaqe adn Todd - nodt in possessio of three short of stature, dark-complected (not Black) men.

Originally posted by higharm [*]

so who were those three dark-skinned men? Did they ever really find out? And why has no one ever figured out who they were? [/*]

LE never found the three men Diane Jackson reported seeing. There well could have been other men inside the Medina's home that she did not see.

Originally posted by earth goddess [*]

One thing for sure - they were not the burglars and there's no proof whatsoever that they ever even SAW the safe since the safe was found at the residence of Pearce and Todd

Such stupid men, those three. [/*]

Originally posted by earth goddess [*]

One thing for sure - they were not the burglars [/*]

Seems like the names of everyone else running around that street or in the area that day finally have all come to light except for these three dark-skinned men. Why not mention who they were and what they were doing. If they had, no one would have been coming up with all this craziness about them.

I just find it odd, these three were treated as if they never existed.

Why would a van with three dark-skinned men be parked on that street? Who were they there to see? No one knows them?

Maybe they were undercover? LOL

Originally posted by earth goddess [*]

Sft Steele wan't the one who took her report - check your facts. [/*]

The trial record names Sgt. Steele and indicates he was involved in the process of the recording of the report.

If not Sgt. Steele, prosecutors were free to call others to the stand in an attempt to impeach the accuracy of Diane Jackson's report, which reads that she saw three men, a van and a safe in front of the Medina's home at 11:40AM in Xmas Eve.

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]

The trial record names Sgt. Steele and indicates he was involved in the process of the recording of the report.

If not Sgt. Steele, prosecutors were free to call others to the stand in an attempt to impeach the accuracy of Diane Jackson's report, which reads that she saw three men, a van and a safe in front of the Medina's home at 11:40AM in Xmas Eve. [/*]

Is it your opinion the three dark-skinned men are the ones who had something to do with the safe? If so, how did the safe end up at Todd's? Do you think the 3DSM took the safe to Todd's house?

Do you think Todd would keep quiet about someone else who might have been involved?

What is it you are thinking?

Originally posted by higharm [*]

Is it your opinion the three dark-skinned men are the ones who had something to do with the safe? If so, how did the safe end up at Todd's? Do you think the 3DSM took the safe to Todd's house?

Do you think Todd would keep quiet about someone else who might have been involved?

What is it you are thinking? [/*]

I have long held that the burglars were almost assuredly involved in the abduction and death of Laci.

An examination of the burglars' storyline shows that as regards the Medina's burglary having taken place on 12/26, their story impeaches itself over and over and over.

Diane Jackson reported seeing three men and a van and a safe at 11:40 AM on Xmas Eve. This places three men right across from Laci's home. It gives credence to Lt. Aponte hearing that Laci confronted Steven Todd when he was in the process of burglarizing the Medina's residence.

Moreover, in addition to Steven Todd, Glen Pearce admitted to being involved in the burglary. I have no reason to believe either of them lied about their involvement. However. I don't not believe that they were the only men involved in the burglary.

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]

I have long held that the burglars were almost assuredly involved in the abduction and death of Laci.

An examination of the burglars' storyline shows that as regards the Medina's burglary having taken place on 12/26, their story impeaches itself over and over and over.

Diane Jackson reported seeing three men and a van and a safe at 11:40 AM on Xmas Eve. This places three men right across from Laci's home. It gives credence to Lt. Aponte hearing that Laci confronted Steven Todd when he was in the process of burglarizing the Medina's residence.

Moreover, in addition to Steven Todd, Glen Pierce admitted to being involved in the burglary. I have no reason to believe either of them lied about their involvement. However. I don't not believe that they were the only men involved in the burglary. [/*]

If Steven Todd was in a confrontation with Laci, why would he keep the safe in his yard? Would he not get rid of it if it might tie him to a murder? Just strange behavior.

So are you saying the 3DSM were part of the burglary? If so, then Steven Todd would know who the 3DSM are. I guess he is not {ratting} them off? {If} this be the case.

If the 3DSM took Laci, and Todd knew it, (1) why keep the safe (2) would the killers let Todd live knowing he could tell on them?

I am just wanting to understand this. And why would 3DSM being hanging out with 2 white airport boys?

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]Carrying over discussion from the June 24th/25th thread.



Judge Delucchi considered Diane Jackson's report to be fully truthful. So he permitted it to be admitted "for the truth."

Prosecutors never claimed that the report was inaccurate or untruthful. Nor did prosecutors have Sgt. Steele testify so as to impeach Diane Jackson's report wherein she told LE that she saw three men, a van and a safe at 11:40AM on Xmas Eve in front of the Medina's residence. [/*]

LMAO - Since when does a prosecution team need to impeach a third party ruse, when the third party ruse failed to even register to anyone due to the weakness of it?

Originally posted by higharm [*]

Is it your opinion the three dark-skinned men are the ones who had something to do with the safe? If so, how did the safe end up at Todd's? Do you think the 3DSM took the safe to Todd's house?

Do you think Todd would keep quiet about someone else who might have been involved?

What is it you are thinking? [/*]

Yeah, Todd and Pearce would go to jail and never mention these three men and the white, tan or brown van. Isn't it odd that Diane could see a man in the yard with a safe on a dolly that the BURGLAR said was on a dolly as he could not move it alone, yet shet can't identify the color of the van.

I maintain based on police report that DJ never saw a van. She thought they were landscapers - since when do landscapers move safes.

Originally posted by higharm [*]

If Steven Todd was in a confrontation with Laci, why would he keep the safe in his yard? Would he not get rid of it if it might tie him to a murder? Just strange behavior.

So are you saying the 3DSM were part of the burglary? If so, then Steven Todd would know who the 3DSM are. I guess he is not {ratting} them off? {If} this be the case.

If the 3DSM took Laci, and Todd knew it, (1) why keep the safe (2) would the killers let Todd live knowing he could tell on them?

I am just wanting to understand this. And why would 3DSM being hanging out with 2 white airport boys? [/*]

I certainly believe that the three men Diane Jackson saw were members of a crew of men that burglarized the Medina's home on Xmas Eve.

I have long held that the Medina's departing their home at 10:30AM and the subsequent burglary taking place that morning supports the burglars having had knowledge that the Medinas intended to go on a trip that day.

I further believe they were casing the Medina's home and the neighborhood on the morning of Xmas Eve as they waited for a best time to break into the Medina's house.

Originally posted by Frydaddy [*]

LMAO - Since when does a prosecution team need to impeach a third party ruse, when the third party ruse failed to even register to anyone due to the weakness of it? [/*]

Specifics on your "ruse"?

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]

I certainly believe that the three men Diane Jackson saw were members of a crew of men that burglarized the Medina's home on Xmas Eve.

I have long held that the Medina's departing their home at 10:30AM and the subsequent burglary taking place that morning supports the burglars having had knowledge that the Medinas intended to go on a trip that day.

I further believe they were casing the Medina's home and the neighborhood on the morning of Xmas Eve as they waiting for a best time to break into the
Medina's house. [/*]

And you base this on what?

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]

Specifics on your "ruse"? [/*]

The whole safe, Diane Jackson, Tenbrink brothers, Aponte, burglars killed Laci is a ruse Wudge. MG bamboozled ya on this one. There was far too much information known that could have come in during the trial that didn't. IF all this stuff was what really happened, MG would have played Matlock on it. It's fantasy.

Originally posted by Frydaddy [*]

And you base this on what? [/*]

The fact that Mrs. Medina testified that she and her husband drove away from their home around 10:30AM on Xmas Eve. And the testimony by the mailman, Mr. Graybill, stating that he would have finished delivering the mail to the Medina's and the Peterson home within the next half hour. Within 40 minutes, Diane Jackson then sees the three men, a van and a safe in front of the Medina's residence.

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]

I certainly believe that the three men Diane Jackson saw were members of a crew of men that burglarized the Medina's home on Xmas Eve.

I have long held that the Medina's departing their home at 10:30AM and the subsequent burglary taking place that morning supports the burglars having had knowledge that the Medinas intended to go on a trip that day.

I further believe they were casing the Medina's home and the neighborhood on the morning of Xmas Eve as they waited for a best time to break into the Medina's house. [/*]

So these men were there at 10:40 am, according to Diane Jackson. With the safe already out of the house. The Medina's had left about 10 minutes before this. So they pulled up in there just as the Medina's left? Were they driving up and down the street waiting for them to leave? HOw did they get there so soon and have the safe out in the yard already? I guess I am confused of the sequence of events to make this work?

If Todd and Pearce are involved with this {crew} you say you think is responsible for the burglary, then why was it Todd had to go talk to Tenbrink to ask for help, and why did he need Pearce to give him a ride?

And if the 3DSM took the safe, why is it in Todd's yard?

Something is not working here? Or is it and I am missing it?

Originally posted by higharm [*]

So these men were there at 10:40 am, according to Diane Jackson. With the safe already out of the house. The Medina's had left about 10 minutes before this. So they pulled up in there just as the Medina's left? Were they driving up and down the street waiting for them to leave? HOw did they get there so soon and have the safe out in the yard already? I guess I am confused of the sequence of events to make this work?

If Todd and Pearce are involved with this {crew} you say you think is responsible for the burglary, then why was it Todd had to go talk to Tenbrink to ask for help, and why did he need Pearce to give him a ride?

And if the 3DSM took the safe, why is it in Todd's yard?

Something is not working here? Or is it and I am missing it? [/*]

Incorrect on times. The Medinas left around 10:30AM. Diane Jackson's sighting is 11:40AM.

I believe that Todd did ask Tenbrink if he wanted to help him with a burglary that was already started. My take is that Todd thought Tenbrink might have been able to help with the fencing of the stolen items.

What does anyone know about Diane Jackson? Is there any reason someone should not believe her? Is there any reason she would make all of this up?

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]

Incorrect on times. The Medinas left around 10:30AM. Diane Jackson's sighting is 11:40AM.

I believe that Todd did ask Tenbrink if he wanted to help him with a burglary that was already started. My take is that Todd thought Tenbrink might have been able to help with the fencing of the stolen items. [/*]

I am sorry on the time error. For some reason I read your post as 10:40 not 1{1:40. So, yes, then there is plenty of time for the Medina's to leave and then DJ to see someone there.

So if the 3DSM are part of the Todd and Pearce group, why does Todd need Tenbrink? You say maybe to {fence} the property? I don't know why you think this, but I can't agree with that at all. Seems Todd had that property sold all over the place and is a known fence himself. I really can't agree Todd needed Tenbrinks to fence property.

Why do you think the Tenbrinks are fences?

Originally posted by higharm [*]What does anyone know about Diane Jackson? Is there any reason someone should not believe her? Is there any reason she would make all of this up? [/*]

Over the years, numerous posters from Modesto have said that they know Diane Jackson. I've never heard or read anything from those posters, or anywhere else, that questions Diane Jackson's motive or credibility.

Net, an honest citizen who reported what she had seen.

Originally posted by higharm [*]

I am sorry on the time error. For some reason I read your post as 10:40 not 1{1:40. So, yes, then there is plenty of time for the Medina's to leave and then DJ to see someone there.

So if the 3DSM are part of the Todd and Pearce group, why does Todd need Tenbrink? You say maybe to {fence} the property? I don't know why you think this, but I can't agree with that at all. Seems Todd had that property sold all over the place and is a known fence himself. I really can't agree Todd needed Tenbrinks to fence property.

Why do you think the Tenbrinks are fences? [/*]

Asking another person if they are interested in helping with a burglary that was already underway does not mean that the person asked is a fence. They might have been thought to know someone who is a fence.

However, since Adam Tenbrink stated that Steven Todd made this inquiry of him in the evening of Xmas Eve, it does support that Todd's inquiry was made in regards to the burglary of the Medinas home earlier on Xmas Eve.

Originally posted by TexMex [*]


SNIP

No one knows what TIME Laci "disappeared"!

SNIP

[/*]

Agree.

This is a key defense point.

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]


Asking someone another person if they are interested in helping with a burglary that was already underway does not mean that the person asked is a fence. They might have been thought to know someone who is a fence.

However, since Adam Tenbrink stated that Steven Todd made this inquiry of him on the evening of Xmas, it does support that Todd's inquiry was made in regards to the burglary of the Medinas home earlier on Xmas Eve.

As for [/*]

I was refering to your previous post where you said
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Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]

Incorrect on times. The Medinas left around 10:30AM. Diane Jackson's sighting is 11:40AM.

I believe that Todd did ask Tenbrink if he wanted to help him with a burglary that was already started.

My take is that Todd thought Tenbrink might have been able to help with the fencing of the stolen items. [/*]

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I don't think Todd would not need Tenbrink to help with fencing the property. And why would the 3DSKM leave the safe at Todd's house and let Todd dispence of everything? Would they even trust him to do that?

And why would Todd be talking about this burglary all over to people he did not even know if he knew anything about Laci?

I just can't believe this is what happened. I can believe something might be going on with the 3DSM, but not this way. But I am trying to see why people think this, and I am willing to listen to why

Originally posted by higharm [*]

I was refering to your previous post where you said
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Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]

Incorrect on times. The Medinas left around 10:30AM. Diane Jackson's sighting is 11:40AM.

I believe that Todd did ask Tenbrink if he wanted to help him with a burglary that was already started.

My take is that Todd thought Tenbrink might have been able to help with the fencing of the stolen items. [/*]

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I don't think Todd would not need Tenbrink to help with fencing the property. And why would the 3DSKM leave the safe at Todd's house and let Todd dispence of everything? Would they even trust him to do that?

And why would Todd be talking about this burglary all over to people he did not even know if he knew anything about Laci?

I just can't believe this is what happened. I can believe something might be going on with the 3DSM, but not this way. But I am trying to see why people think this, and I am willing to listen to why [/*]

The first thing you need to do is decide if you believe the burglary took place on 12/26, as Steven Todd and Glen Pearce claim.

I would like to know how many think the burglars are involved and how many think the 3DSM are involved.

And now I guess how many think Todd and Pearce are hooked up with the 3DSM and they are ALL involved? Along with the Tenbrinks?

Is this the popular view of most of the NG's? It certainly is not mine.

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]

The first thing you need to do is decide if you believe the burglary took place on 12/26, as Steven Todd and Glen Pearce claim. [/*]

I am far from new to this case just so you will know. I believe someone was robbing that house on the 24th. And if you remember, which I am sure you do, Todd at one time stated he saw Scott doing something suspicious on the 24th. So where was Todd at that point in time when he was supposedly seeing Scott in the early dark hours of the 24th? Do we believe he saw Scott on the 24th?

Out of nowhere the date changes to have the burglary committed on the 26th. Very strange.

I have thought perhaps there were two periods of time someone was in that house burglarizing it. I even have my doubts that Todd was even at that house. It is possible he ended up with all this property and the safe and someone else is the person/persons who actually took it. Have you thought of that?

Tenbrinks are supposedly afraid of someone? Who? Certainly NOT Todd and Pearce. So who? The 3DSM? or someone we have never heard of? But it is not Todd and Pearce. So this tells me there is someone else being refered to in this statement "You don't know who you are dealing with".

I think everyone is stuck on Todd and Pearce and they are not seeing WHO is really involved.

Originally posted by higharm [*]I would like to know how many think the burglars are involved and how many think the 3DSM are involved.

And now I guess how many think Todd and Pearce are hooked up with the 3DSM and they are ALL involved? Along with the Tenbrinks?

Is this the popular view of most of the NG's? It certainly is not mine. [/*]

I believe the Medina's burglars took place on Xmas Eve. I believe the burglars abducted Laci that day. I believe that just as Adam Tenbrink stated, he was approached by Steven Todd during the evening of Xmas Eve and asked about helping Todd with a burglary that was already started.

Originally posted by TexMex [*]


Hi higharm

Who do you think killed Laci Peterson? [/*]

That would be impossible to guess exactly who. Might not even be the people who took her. She could have been transported alive and handed over to someone else. If this is the case, could be anyone.

Why take someone anyway? Why not just kill them on the spot and leave them there? Why load them up in your vehicle, and then have to deal with driving them around where people can see you. Why take them to a house and let people know you have her? Why risk getting pulled over with her?

Unless you are kidnapping her for ransom, or someone owes you. Then you might hold them hostage.

But why is a burglar going to take her and kill her and then keep the safe in his yard, talk about it, and distribute the property all over the place so people can tell on you. Now that just does not make any sense whatsoever. Todd is not stupid, he would not keep that safe and then let everyone know he was involved in a burglary that would tie him straight to a murder. It's someone else.

Originally posted by higharm [*]

I am far from new to this case just so you will know. I believe someone was robbing that house on the 24th. And if you remember, which I am sure you do, Todd at one time stated he saw Scott doing something suspicious on the 24th. So where was Todd at that point in time when he was supposedly seeing Scott in the early dark hours of the 24th? Do we believe he saw Scott on the 24th?

Out of nowhere the date changes to have the burglary committed on the 26th. Very strange.

I have thought perhaps there were two periods of time someone was in that house burglarizing it. I even have my doubts that Todd was even at that house. It is possible he ended up with all this property and the safe and someone else is the person/persons who actually took it. Have you thought of that?

Tenbrinks are supposedly afraid of someone? Who? Certainly NOT Todd and Pearce. So who? The 3DSM? or someone we have never heard of? But it is not Todd and Pearce. So this tells me there is someone else being refered to in this statement "You don't know who you are dealing with".

I think everyone is stuck on Todd and Pearce and they are not seeing WHO is really involved. [/*]

Given that you believe the Medinas were robbed on Xmas Eve and given that Steven Todd and Glen Pearce admitted to robbing the Medina's home, then what do you believe happened to Laci after her abduction?

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]

I believe the Medina's burglars took place on Xmas Eve. I believe the burglars abducted Laci that day. I believe that just as Adam Tenbrink stated, he was approached by Steven Todd during the evening of Xmas Eve and asked about helping Todd with a burglary that was already started. [/*]

Do you believe Todd and Pearce abducted Laci? And took her where? And then keep the safe and start offing the property all over and sitting in houses talking about this property in front of people they do not even know? When it TIES THEM TO A MURDER?

Sorry, I can assure you that did NOT happen. Now someone else might have robbed that house and took her, but I am telling you it is NOT Todd and Pearce. And it is NOT the Tenbrinks. So who else was there?

Originally posted by higharm [*]

Do you believe Todd and Pearce abducted Laci? And took her where? And then keep the safe and start offing the property all over and sitting in houses talking about this property in front of people they do not even know? When it TIES THEM TO A MURDER?

Sorry, I can assure you that did NOT happen. Now someone else might have robbed that house and took her, but I am telling you it is NOT Todd and Pearce. And it is NOT the Tenbrinks. So who else was there? [/*]

I simply believe that the burglars abducted Laci on Xmas Eve I don't know if there were 3, 4 or 5 burglars there that day. As to which ones abducted Laci, it really matters not. Because if she ended up dead as a result of a $7,000 burglary, then felony murder would sweep over everyone involved.

Originally posted by W_D_1 [*]


According to Todd and Pearce's claims there is no way they loaded everything they stole into a small car like Pearces mom owned.

On top of the safe that they claimed took up the whole passenger seat they took a rolling toolbox, another toolbox, various tools, reciprocating saw, drill, cameras, camera lens, a weedeater, and other jewelry that was on top of the safe. And as I said Susan Medina didn't even list everything they stole because she only had minimum coverage and insurance didn't cover it all.

I think Todd and Pearce were involved with the men in the van. I think it was all loaded into the van. I also believe the men in the van took their share of what was stolen and that's why it all wasn't found.

I also believe Laci confronted what she thought was two burglars and was possibly attacked by the others so she couldn't call the police. I also think it's very possible that after hearing that Scott was at the bay that they disposed of her body there so they wouldn't get caught. [/*]

I would really like to know who these 3DSM were. Why would they be involved with Todd and Pearce? If everything was loaded into a the van, why did the 3DSM need help from Todd and Pearce? And again, if Todd knows Laci was taken, why does he keep this safe and go talking about the property and spreading it all over the place? Does a burlgar really rob a house, know someone was kidnapped and probably killed and then talk about this stuff in front of people, spread the property all over and keep the safe that assures he is going to be arrested for murder?

I am trying to understand why people think Todd would do this?
Why would any criminal do that? Something is not right with this.

adding one more thought

If everything was loaded into the van, and they also took laci, are they going to drive over to Todd's house and dump the safe out there? With Laci in the van? And is Todd going to let them dump it there if they have Laci?

Originally posted by higharm [*]

Do you believe Todd and Pearce abducted Laci? And took her where? And then keep the safe and start offing the property all over and sitting in houses talking about this property in front of people they do not even know? When it TIES THEM TO A MURDER?

Sorry, I can assure you that did NOT happen. Now someone else might have robbed that house and took her, but I am telling you it is NOT Todd and Pearce. And it is NOT the Tenbrinks. So who else was there? [/*]

I certainly think there is an excellent chance that after her abduction, Laci was held somewhere in Tracy.

Originally posted by higharm [*]

I would really like to know who these 3DSM were. Why would they be involved with Todd and Pearce? If everything was loaded into a the van, why did the 3DSM need help from Todd and Pearce? And again, if Todd knows Laci was taken, why does he keep this safe and go talking about the property and spreading it all over the place? Does a burlgar really rob a house, know someone was kidnapped and probably killed and then talk about this stuff in front of people, spread the property all over and keep the safe that assures he is going to be arrested for murder?

I am trying to understand why people think Todd would do this?
Why would any criminal do that? Something is not right with this.

adding one more thought

If everything was loaded into the van, and they also took laci, are they going to drive over to Todd's house and dump the safe out there? With Laci in the van? And is Todd going to let them dump it there if they have Laci? [/*]

Glen Pearce places Todd in the Medina's home. Steven Todd places himself there as well. However, it would not surprise me if they are covering up for two or three other people as well.

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]

I simply believe that the burglars abducted Laci on Xmas Eve I don't know if there were 3, 4 or 5 burglars there that day. As to which ones abducted Laci, it really matters not. Because if she ended up dead as a result of a $7,000 burglary, then felony murder would sweep over everyone involved. [/*]

But it does matter. If Todd received that safe from someone and did not have anything to do with that burglary, he is not part of the crime that is responsible for a murder. If he robbed the house before or after someoene else did who might have taken Laci, then again, he is not part of the murder. Why would anyone want to do to Todd and Pearce and the Tenbrinks, EXACTLY what everyone is yelling happened to Scott? Framing convenient persons. It is the very same thing. Think about it. Find out who REALLY killed her before accusing this supposed burglars.

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]

I certainly think there is an excellent chance that after her abduction, Laci was held somewhere in Tracy. [/*]

I know that is the popular view held by the ng's. I disagree. I believe that tip was BS. And I do believe I know where that info came from. Someone on the boards knows who turned that tip in and if they would ever admit it, then this would all be cleared up about the Tracy tip.

Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]

Glen Pearce places Todd in the Medina's home. Steven Todd places himself there as well. However, it would not surprise me if they are covering up for two or three other people as well. [/*]

Well if they are covering for someone else, then they are going to have to say they were there and robbed the house. How else would they explain they have the property if they are not willing to tell who really robbed the house? The stuff did not just walk over to Todd's house. If they are not going to tell who robbed it, they have to say they did. See what I mean?