Odds and Ends, Pt. II

Okie dokie, CW...though I am at a loss to understand the rationale. At 940 posts, Pt. I is only a third as large as the original thread (which was closed at 2818 posts, after PE had her temper tantrum).

Anyway, Cinderella started 'Odds and Ends' (actually a good idea - a "thread for when sometimes we don't know where to post something"... so "our posts won't be off subject"). But Cinderella ended Pt. I with...well...classic 'Cindyisms'.

Nevertheless, there appears to have been a distinct and radical change in RG's 'MO', after his second divorce. I cannot help but think that is important in understanding his disappearance. All JMOO

[J. J. in Phila]

I'm not certain if the change occurred after his second divorce or more recently. He previously had a car, that I'm assuming was under his own name, that was disposed of prior to 4/15/05. At that point, he didn't own his own car.

Like so much of the case, this "change" may be completely explainable, normal, and unrelated to the disappearance or indicative of something else that could be very important.

At to the traffic on 192, it was fairly low. Even assuming double traffic, had RFG pulled over and sat there for 10 minutes, perhaps 10 cars would have passed (and that is a generous estimate). I'd suspect that most, if not all of drivers would note and remember it

[Cinderella]

Several people that had know Ray told me that he changed. That he started with an open door policy and ended up being very different.

Something happened in between. You can even see the change on his face. Life can do that to a person. A partner can do it to a person. Have you ever noticed how people change and even start to act like their partner, friends or spouse. I think that one person made a big terrible impact on his life.

Some people are never satisfied with what they have, they just want more and more and more till there is nothing left to give. It is good to have some time alone and reflect on your life.

BTW, this is just another one of my Cindyism moments.

If someone harmed Ray, I pray that Ray haunts them every second, every minute, every day and never stops.

Events change a lot of lives. Look at Mark Lundsford. I hope that I spelled his last name right. I really admire him. Mark Klaussen (sp) and all the others that have become better people for what happened in their lives.

[Cloudbuster]

Cind the open door policy being converted into a non open door policy, did anyone say why? I was just trying to analize that a little, and what comes to mind is maybe it was ackward having a (so) work close by? But also if he was having problems or began to mistrust another employee he may have felt a need for more privacy?

Also maybe his So was a distraction on his focus of work lol, woman can have that effect. Judging by what you heard what do you think?

[J. J. in Phila]

Originally posted by Cinderella [*]Several people that had know Ray told me that he changed. That he started with an open door policy and ended up being very different.

Something happened in between. You can even see the change on his face. Life can do that to a person. A partner can do it to a person. Have you ever noticed how people change and even start to act like their partner, friends or spouse. I think that one person made a big terrible impact on his life.

I have no doubt that RFG changed over time, but the question is when and where these changes tied to his disappearance.

To give an example, JKA noted more interaction with the staff when she started working there (1988), e.g. everyone going out together for lunch. By 2005, that was gone. She attributed that to an increase in the volume of work.

RFG tended to own his own vehicle (from what I can gather). Nearly a year before he disappeared, that pattern changed. Is that connected with the disappearance? Did RFG due it because he was worried about a law suit and wanted to protect his assets? Was he possibly worried about getting older and wanted to give the now in order to avoid potential inheritance tax?

I don't have an answer.

[J. J. in Phila]

Originally posted by logicworks [*]

On what do you base 'nearly one year' prior to as being the time of change regarding ownership of a vehicle? Was the Mini a special order, and if it was, was that order in PF's name or RG's?
Earliest delivery I could find of the 2005 MCS was end of August, 2004. In whose name was the order placed?

TG's comment about when the Mini was purchased, or at least when he first saw/drove it.

Whose name was on the order is not relevant, but whose name was on the title is.

I hardly think RG would be worried about a lawsuit since it is my understanding insurance is carried by the county/state, to cover such occurrences, job wise. The divorce was final so not like she could keep coming back to him for more. One would assume settlement there was a done deal.

Yet, he might have been worried, for some reason. It was in in regard to S1's "distinct and radical change in RG's 'MO', after his second divorce," and Cind's similar comments. I'm not sure that the change occurred after the 2000 divorce, but it seems to have occurred by July 2004.

Only someone with large assets would be concerned at age 59 about 'inheritance tax' issues, IMO.

No, PA has a state inheritance tax for all amounts, including cars. I believe the rate was 15% for a non spouse, non family member. I'm well below that age and I'm worried about it.

https://revenue-pa.custhelp.com/cgi-...i=&p_topview=1

That relatively high rate might have been a factor in RFG's thought process (though it would not necessarily be indicative on anything other that RFG was financial prudence).

Still, for whatever reason, he did change that aspect of his life. He no longer owned an automobile on 4/15/05 (and apparently hadn't since July, 2004).

MOO - Sorry. I did not mean to imply the change was immediate, or EG's fault...but more like a crescendo, which started back then and 'topped out' in April '05.

A lot of people have gone 'on the record' saying they would not stop searching for an answer, only to have appeared, one by one, to have drop by the wayside...dying embers...move over Cindy Song. And I am not talking about this forum, per se, though it may sometimes appear to be RG's last bastion.

Something for everyone, on this sweltering night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LoBwkVLVKU

[J. J. in Phila]

Originally posted by Serendipitous1 [*]MOO - Sorry. I did not mean to imply the change was immediate, or EG's fault...but more like a crescendo, which started back then and 'topped out' in April '05.

I'm not even too sure that it began in 2000. The only thing that I'm aware of that was a change was that, while RFG owned a car at some point prior to July of 2004, he didn't own one after July 2004.

Perhaps TG can shed some light on if there were movement of assets after the divorce in 2000. Not so much on how much, but just if RFG began taking hios name off assets or established joint ownership from 2000 onward.

[Politigal]

I'd still like to know exactly what JK Arnold's opinion of Patty truly was....

*If* JKA was actually the one posting as "ParlorElephant" way back when - there was definitely something there, as far as her suspicions of Patty.

[J. J. in Phila]

One of things that troubles me about the case is that someone may have an idea about what happened, especially if this was walkaway.

Assume for a second that on 4/15/05, I was a close friend/close family member of RFG and that I aided him in walking away (I couldn't have told you who RFG was on 4/15/05, and spent about a year and a half pronouncing his name Gr-EYE-car). I knew he wanted out of his life, for whatever reason. He asked me for some help and I really wanted wanted to help him, because he was a friend.

What would I do after he left:

1. Be very quiet about it and not speak to the press. Not speak to the family.

2. Post anonymously and try to "direct" people toward murder after some of the details came out. I'd know that the most likely suspect had a tight alibi and that witness reports wouldn't come close to supporting even an "Internet case" about the suspect.

3. When the were some semi persuasive arguments in favor of walkaway (and I have not yet seen anything that has led me to proclaim walkaway), try to create a conspiracy theory to explain why we shouldn't listen to it.

Now, I actually think there are more than a few people that could have been the helper, that would known what happened on 4/15/05. That are those 20-25 that are in the "Inner Circle." Not a grand conspiracy, but a small one, of perhaps two people, one of which would be RFG.

[Cinderella]

That would really be nice if we had an answer to that question. Then if he wanted to walk away on his own and someone aided him then we could all leave the board. What bothers me is that we do not know that this happened. No one will acknowledge it. So until we have the answer, we have to find out what happened to Ray.

I would like to know about insurance policys. I would like to know who name they were in. Also I am hoping that they looked at PF's banking records. That should have been done at the beginning. Was it though.

I know that an anwer was given, but why would PF change jobs when her and Ray would be retiring. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense her different stories. It doesn't make sense that the car was not in the parking lot when TG arrived as TG stated they he almost beat LE there.

I don't think that it was like RG to take a stand on that case of the Deputy Sheriff of Philadelphia either.

OK to the rumor mill. I heard that when someone close to RG talks someone gets very upset with them and they have hell to pay. No names. Just a rumor mill.

[J. J. in Phila]

Originally posted by Cinderella [*]That would really be nice if we had an answer to that question. Then if he wanted to walk away on his own and someone aided him then we could all leave the board. What bothers me is that we do not know that this happened. No one will acknowledge it. So until we have the answer, we have to find out what happened to Ray.

The possibility that RFG did not walk away is why I'm still here.

I can however understand someone, a close friend, not talking, if this was voluntary. It's a question of loyalty and neither the friend nor RFG would be breaking any law in doing it.

I would like to know about insurance policys. I would like to know who name they were in.

I'm not concern about life insurance, because RFG would have to be declared dead first, and there has been no effort to rush that.

It doesn't make sense that the car was not in the parking lot when TG arrived as TG stated they he almost beat LE there.

I was under the impression that it was still there when he arrived. However, it would be at least an hour because TG hadn't turned off to Bellefonte yet. Bellefonte is about an hour away from Lewisburg (actually a little more). Perhaps TG can clarify the situation.

[puzzled]

Does TG even post here anymore?
By the way some in the past said that there was a fould odor in the street of shoppes. I did not notice it. I did not go downstairs though. Was the odor in the downstairs area?

[J. J. in Phila]

Originally posted by puzzled [*]Does TG even post here anymore?
By the way some in the past said that there was a fould odor in the street of shoppes. I did not notice it. I did not go downstairs though. Was the odor in the downstairs area? [/*]

I think the oder was checked out. SJ, IIRC, called the PSP.

As for TG, there has not been a lot of news. I think this is one of the first times we've asked questions that he could answer in a while.

MOO - The CDT appears to have finally removed the new (sham) Gricar Q&A Forum...along with:
- the historical Gricar Q&A (Sep '05 - Apr '08)...all gone;
- 'Missed leads - ignored sightings', 'Family upset by missteps'...ancient history;
- the third anniversary news article...lost in cyberspace;
- the 'Ongoing Coverage'...dropped out of sight;
- Pete Bosak's "promise to keep after this", "to find answers"...(fill in your own pejorative comment);
- Ray Gricar...gone...with yester-year's news.

So long, Ray!

[J. J. in Phila]

They stories are still uP here:

http://www.centredaily.com/news/ray_gricar/index.xml

[Cloudbuster]

Originally posted by J. J. in Phila [*]

I have no doubt that RFG changed over time, but the question is when and where these changes tied to his disappearance.

To give an example, JKA noted more interaction with the staff when she started working there (1988), e.g. everyone going out together for lunch. By 2005, that was gone. She attributed that to an increase in the volume of work.

RFG tended to own his own vehicle (from what I can gather). Nearly a year before he disappeared, that pattern changed. Is that connected with the disappearance? Did RFG due it because he was worried about a law suit and wanted to protect his assets? Was he possibly worried about getting older and wanted to give the now in order to avoid potential inheritance tax?

I don't have an answer. [/*]

JJ it looks like RG was getting to a point that last year that it almost seems like he had to hide assets from someone that was most likly sucking him dry or trying too. Sharing a bank account with Lara's name on it with his name too. Then putting the mini in PF's name. Who would a possible hound be that RG was not able to stand up to? Seems like he was unable to get past it. Maybe someone capable of some type of black mail? Sorry but I hate to ask this but maybe another woman? Don't freak about it cause Ray was not married to PF. Just seems possible.
MOO

[J. J. in Phila]

Originally posted by Cloudbuster [*]

JJ it looks like RG was getting to a point that last year that it almost seems like he had to hide assets from someone that was most likly sucking him dry or trying too. Sharing a bank account with Lara's name on it with his name too. Then putting the mini in PF's name.

There may be other reasons. RFG would have lowered the inheritance tax liability rather substantially by doing what he did.

It could be something that simple or something sinister. This evidence doesn't point in one direction.

[day2day]

Originally posted by Serendipitous1 [*]MOO - The CDT appears to have finally removed the new (sham) Gricar Q&A Forum...along with:
- the historical Gricar Q&A (Sep '05 - Apr '08)...all gone;
- 'Missed leads - ignored sightings', 'Family upset by missteps'...ancient history;
- the third anniversary news article...lost in cyberspace;
- the 'Ongoing Coverage'...dropped out of sight;
- Pete Bosak's "promise to keep after this", "to find answers"...(fill in your own pejorative comment);
- Ray Gricar...gone...with yester-year's news.

So long, Ray! [/*]

Yea...good ole Pete...!! I am pretty sure if ya asked him ..he would tell ya he would get right back to you on this!! ...

So many there should be ashamed of themselves...

[J. J. in Phila]

Originally posted by day2day [*]

Yea...good ole Pete...!! I am pretty sure if ya asked him ..he would tell ya he would get right back to you on this!! ...

So many there should be ashamed of themselves... [/*]

Ah, the articles are still up.

http://www.centredaily.com/news/ray_gricar/index.xml

[Cinderella]

It would be nice if Parlor Elephant would come back on. No matter who Parlor Elephant is or isn't it doesn't matter because this is an opinion board. I have been sent threatening pm's to try to intimidate me, but all that I am posting is my opinions only. So much for that. Everyone on the board has creative minds.

As far as that goes it is no one's business who is who. We can get banned for revealing anyone else's real name. It is only a guess and this is an opinion board. If we had the answers, we would know what happened to Ray.

[Cinderella]

I have never known of anyone that is paid by Centre County Government, choosing who work for them. The jobs are posted. When I think about the firing of JKA, I wonder why she was fired. Yes, she ran opposite MM, but so do others and that doesn't get on fired.

I can't think of one other person whether elected or not that choose who they wanted in their office. I have heard that when there are some problems, that someone might be transferred to another department, but I keep asking myself why J.K.A. I also don't believe that Ray would have endorsed someone getting rid of her before she could retire. She has one more year to go, what was the hurry. Maybe two people didn't click. Maybe someone didn't like her or was jealous of her over Ray. Maybe someone thought that Ray was messing around with J.K.A. or too close to her.

That would encourage someone to change positions if they thought that their soul mate was cheating. I can't see why anyone who would be retiring soon would put someone through training them just to leave and have another opening. It just doesn't fit any other way then to really know what is going on. One embarrassment would be enough let alone this one.

Just my opinon only. Can anyone else comprehend this move a different way that really makes sense other than someone wanted to try this job out.?

[Cloudbuster]

Cind maybe someone in the office wasn't thrilled that JKA had ties to someone that RG had dated or was friends with in the past. Im not sure if it was a friend to RG or someone he dated. JKA did mention something about not thinking RG was still seeing that person. Can you look up what JKA said about that?

I have a hard time understaning PF's descision to move into a lower paying position. Seems like a need to be closer to RG. I could be way off base but it does look like that.

I also have trouble with the mini placed in PF's name prior to the disappearance. Seems like RG had a reason to do that. Maybe he wanted PF to feel more secure in the relationship or he had to do it for another reason.

Does appear that RG had changed during the last year prior to the disappearance.

I also have trouble beliving that she could remain in a position there after RG's disappearance (knowing her boss MM has done nothing to further this investagation).

Im not attacking PF, Im just trying to understand her. We can give many excuses for her but realistically some of it is hard to understand. I know PF would need that job after RG disappeared but how can you work with someone who wouldn't help your soul mate? If the house was paid for you would be able to get another clerk job to cover costs.

moo

[J. J. in Phila]

As far as I know, PE departure was voluntary and she's never been banned. Much like the numerous other posters that have left/removed posts, I'll defend her choice.

Originally posted by Cloudbuster [*]Cind maybe someone in the office wasn't thrilled that JKA had ties to someone that RG had dated or was friends with in the past. Im not sure if it was a friend to RG or someone he dated. JKA did mention something about not thinking RG was still seeing that person. Can you look up what JKA said about that?

There was an old acquaintance who LE thought was the "Lewisburg mystery woman." That was who JKA referred to.

I have a hard time understaning PF's descision to move into a lower paying position. Seems like a need to be closer to RG. I could be way off base but it does look like that.

My understanding was that the VWA would accompany the attorney handling the case into court, which could have given her greater access to RFG. It may have been a desire to get the VWA position filled for the "new" DA, after the election.

I also have trouble with the mini placed in PF's name prior to the disappearance. Seems like RG had a reason to do that. Maybe he wanted PF to feel more secure in the relationship or he had to do it for another reason.

Does appear that RG had changed during the last year prior to the disappearance.

Again, there may (or may not) be a reason that is totally unrelated to his disappearance.

I also have trouble beliving that she could remain in a position there after RG's disappearance (knowing her boss MM has done nothing to further this investagation).

I have not heard the hue and cry for a grand jury from anyone in Centre County. That seems to be about the only thing MM can do. I can understand the position she's in employment wise.

[Cinderella]

If a person is going to retire, why would a person accept a lower paying position before the retirement?

It would seem to me that anyone would want to make as much money as they could before they retired. After all they were counting down the days. Retiring would be soon.



I really feel that the inconsistencies of PF's behavior and statements send up a red flag. The more that you look, the more a person knows that something is wrong with the situation.

Also who started the "We will wait as long as it takes"? Was this statement made somehow to convince others to look away from the truth? I would like to personally ask her what she meant. I wonder if Lara just followed the leader kind of thing.

J. J. Wrote:

My understanding was that the VWA would accompany the attorney handling the case into court, which could have given her greater access to RFG. It may have been a desire to get the VWA position filled for the "new" DA, after the election.


Centre County Government never needed PF to do anything for them. She is working for them, not the other way around. They could have had someone in place if they wanted to.

[day2day]

Originally posted by J. J. in Phila [*]

Ah, the articles are still up.

http://www.centredaily.com/news/ray_gricar/index.xml [/*]

That was mighty big of them..don't ya think?

[J. J. in Phila]

Originally posted by Cinderella [*]If a person is going to retire, why would a person accept a lower paying position before the retirement?

In that case, it may have more to do with the transition to the new DA. A VWA probably is harder to fill than a clerk. PEF is planning to leave; RFG is planning to retire. They might have made a decision to get someone into the VWA position, get him/her trained and acquire some experience prior to the new DA coming into office.

I really feel that the inconsistencies of PF's behavior and statements send up a red flag. The more that you look, the more a person knows that something is wrong with the situation.

I'm unaware of any inconsistencies on anything material and in looking at some of the published comments of PEF, her initial attitude (within the first several months) is that RFG is out there someplace. That may have been wishful thinking.

Day, so far, there isn't any news. On the State College Board, someone posted a "newsflash" more the year ago. It was "He's still missing." I'm not sure there is anything to publish, other than that. I know want questions I'd like to see answered; I've submitted them. I don't have an answer.

I'm one yes answer away from saying this probably was a walkaway case; I'm two no answers away from saying this was a murder case.

Originally posted by day2day
That was mighty big of them..don't ya think?

All JMOO -

Like it or not, the CDT has been the main source of public information in this case. It is therefore particularly disturbing to have witnessed the TOTAL COLLAPSE of that support. The family (including PF) and LE are the other 'conclaves' of information, but who have kept silent about what I have called the 'big secret', as opposed to the 'big lie' (or a whole bunch of little lies).

If all parties at interest (except here, of course) are satisfied that everything that could be done has been done, who am I to question the family, or LE, or the CDT (ala Hatchy McClatchy)? Only my concern...that this is not the case...keeps me pressing for answers.

I have never considered it more important to know all of 'the facts', then to know that 'all of the facts' were being prosecuted. But, after 3 years of what has essentially been total failure, that position is changing. The right message, to the right people (the right answer to the right question), might easily change the entire complexion of this 'stalemate'. But that has not happened...nor, apparently, will it now.

So long, Ray. Your extraordinary courage is lacking in your "so-called" compatriots. So sad. Like a 'candle in the wind'...or 'on the water'...let us plant a tree in you honor...and never truly understand why. MOO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIThPL8Akgc

[Cloudbuster]

Does anyone know if the Markles Building in Hazelton, Luzerence county was still having any work done in 2005? Also their parking lot, garage was it finished completly by 2005?

[Cloudbuster]

Im looking for places that was having work done that had more than one digging machine or bobcat or bucket type machinery. It would be more than one piece of heavy equipment there. Was the new jail completly done in 2005? What about the new I-99 road? Anyone know where they would have been along on that road in the 2005 time frame? Talleyrand park had some work done in 2005 if I remember correctly. There had to be more than one piece of eqipment that's what is important in knowing. Also If I remember correctly the Bush house, the road behind it and they replaced the back steps to it, I know I read that somewhere???
I think Talleyrand had some concrete pillars maybe installed by Penndot? Can anyone find anything on it? Even if you come upon any walkways.

[Cloudbuster]

Well said LW!!! It's so true. The last 3 years is three years toward finding the truth. It may be anytime now that we come to the truth or it may be more years to get there. Secrets are not meant to stay hidden forever.

[Cloudbuster]

Missing:
http://www.centredaily.com/news/brea...ry/647662.html

[J. J. in Phila]

Originally posted by Cloudbuster [*]Missing:
http://www.centredaily.com/news/brea...ry/647662.html [/*]

It's worth noting that they didn't issue a press statement until a week after the last sighting.

MM and SS are "havin' fun" at a young woman's expense ("'Mifflin Streak' runner fighting lewdness charge", CDT - no link...same old 'problem'). 'Go git her, boys'...makes you look like y'all are fighting crime. Even a Gricar comment...go figure...guess RG's plight has not lost all its lustre. MOO

[Cinderella]

I think that it would be great to do a refresher of minds. I would like to see if anyone has a list of the promotions, job changes when Ray disappeared.

Could PF have been the first job change to take place?

Who moved out of the spot that PF took? Does anyone have any idea?

[J. J. in Phila]

Originally posted by Cinderella [*]I think that it would be great to do a refresher of minds. I would like to see if anyone has a list of the promotions, job changes when Ray disappeared.

Could PF have been the first job change to take place?

Who moved out of the spot that PF took? Does anyone have any idea? [/*]

According to JKA, the clerk position had been vacant for a while. The VWA position had been filled by someone known by RFG/PEF.

The thing is, from 12/04 to 5/05, nobody knew who the next DA would be. It might not have been MM or JKA, as both had primary opposition. Anyone hired from 12/04 to even 11/o5 wouldn't know if there would still have a job in January 2006. Even if RFG hadn't disappeared, they still would have been in the same situation.

[J. J. in Phila]

Originally posted by logicworks [*]


The changes I have noticed in the news were all related to something that came up during the investigation into the RG disappearance.
MS for a period of time became the acting DA but didn't bother to see to the renewal of RG's law license.

It wasn't MS responsibility. Renewing the law license was a personal matter paid for by the estate. Technically, it was LG's responsibility, and I'm sure that whether her missing and possibly dead father could show up again and practice law wasn't the most pressing thing on her mind. She's also not an attorney and wouldn't have this as the first thing on he mind.

Dixon left after the first lie detector test was given, and no chief for months until MM moved into DA office.

I believe Dixon announced he was planning to retire prior to that and had indicated his retirement prior to RFG's disappearance.

At the same time, Weaver came in as new chief.

Gee, Bellefonte replaced its retired chief. Big shock.

Erin was moved out of Centre Co. local news first of year, at which time PB became the new voice.

A reporter got a better job, quite and was replaced. Big shock. She was replaced by someone who did some investigative reporting, possibly beyond what she did.

JKA was ousted.

JKA lost an election to the new DA, one where she did do some negative campaigning. Big shock.

Fenton, the woman who claimed to see RG in the rear parking lot around 3pm, moved in as ADA in DA office.

Fenton was a law clerk to Judge Grine. A clerk's position, even for a local judge, is a very prestigious position, but it is generally a first job. It goes to people that graduate law school and are waiting for their Bar results/waiting to take the exams, or want a year or so experience before they start to practice. It's not unusual.

Cheryl Spotts was ousted to another office. (She was the woman who commented on RG's behavior when he met with Judge Brown regarding the AVM case.)

Nearly three years late, she's given another job with the county. Again, there are personnel changes.

DetZ was ousted from BPD to Sheriff's office.

Quit and took another job, about two years later (two years too late, IMO).

Now, what do he have. A political opponent let go (JKA), three people moving to better jobs (EN, DZ, Fenton), though two are still in the immediate area, one long termer retiring (Dixon), all in the course of three years. We have LG making a mistake with the renewal of the law license, and then correcting it; that is understandable in the circumstances.

[J. J. in Phila]

Where is everyone? Are we as stumped as LE?

[J. J. in Phila]

Originally posted by logicworks [*]


NO comparison, considering we do not have access to the evidence from phone records, to dog tracking reports, to witness reports, to test results, to anything that is in the boxes of evidence. Keeping the public in the dark in no way compares with LE's supposedly being stumped. The refusal to move the case higher while sitting on the evidence in no way points to lack of evidence. It points to control of evidence by someone given far too much power over a case.
JMO [/*]

I don't know too many people claiming that the "refusal to move the case higher" is due to a lack of evidence. Also, it is not a question of "refusal," but more of a question of those "higher" declining to take a more active role.

There is no question that MM or Peterson could petition to form a grand jury, on their own, without any request or veto from the BPD or the PSP. So could TC.

[Cloudbuster]

Originally posted by J. J. in Phila [*]Where is everyone? Are we as stumped as LE? [/*]

Im still here. Im convinced that this case had something to do with a insurance deal of some kind and a investagation of some kind (task force) possibility.

Why did TC end up with the last drug bust? It was RG's office that started it. Im sorry I don't see RG handing over a million dollar case to the AG office. I now wonder if the words "I stole it" may fit that. If RG's office would have completed that bust on their own then RG himself would be responsible on how the money was to be used. Why in God's earth would he want TC to have the case???? IMO he didn't. If a million dollars was reported how can we be sure it wasn't more? Let's not forget Ungard and his partner destroyed the records and WHY would that need to be done if everything was on the straight and narrow?? RG looked upset in the photo with TC and I think it's because he is upset with sharing that bust to begin with.
MOO Now I suppose I will be told that TC and RG was buddies lol. Noway Noway.