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Scott Peterson ... Said To Have Adjusted Well To Prison
"Contrary to some reports, some of the guards told us that Peterson has adjusted pretty well to prison life, and by this point has become just another guy on Death Row. "
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05-13-2008, 04:10 PM
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Well isn't that sweet.
3 hots (served to them), TV, jobs, beautiful view, etc. He//, they don't even have to worry about paying bills.
What are they missing? The right to hop in their cars and go chase girls.
Some punishment.
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05-13-2008, 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by wandering [*]Well isn't that sweet.
3 hots (served to them), TV, jobs, beautiful view, etc. He//, they don't even have to worry about paying bills.
What are they missing? The right to hop in their cars and go chase girls.
Some punishment. [/*]
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Not just a beautiful view but a million dollar view too.
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05-13-2008, 05:25 PM
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A million dollar view he seldom gets to see in that historic old building with 654 of the worst criminals in the state living in his section.
He spends most of his time in a room the size of most hallway bathrooms. He sleeps in the same room he chits in.
No golf, no expensive wine or nice restaurants.
But he does have that nice address with the beautiful panoramic views. I'm surprised he didn't plead guilty so he wouldn't have to wait a year to move in. LMAO
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05-13-2008, 07:34 PM
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What I am about to say should not be taken as a sarcastic statement because it is how I sincerely feel.
I am not surprised to hear Scott has adjusted well. I've always felt he could detach himself from reality and enter a place his mind chooses to go to instead, not unlike what he did at Laci's vigil. I think if he didn't have this ability, Scott might have cracked a long time ago.
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05-13-2008, 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by Hey Paula [*]
What I am about to say should not be taken as a sarcastic statement because it is how I sincerely feel.
I am not surprised to hear Scott has adjusted well. I've always felt he could detach himself from reality and enter a place his mind chooses to go to instead, not unlike what he did at Laci's vigil. I think if he didn't have this ability, Scott might have cracked a long time ago.
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Scott knows that his appeal will almost assuredly result in a second trial or, at the very least, reduce his sentence.
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05-13-2008, 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by Hey Paula [*]
What I am about to say should not be taken as a sarcastic statement because it is how I sincerely feel.
I am not surprised to hear Scott has adjusted well. I've always felt he could detach himself from reality and enter a place his mind chooses to go to instead, not unlike what he did at Laci's vigil. I think if he didn't have this ability, Scott might have cracked a long time ago.
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I recall his sister Anne Bird saying he'd already adjusted early on. She said he was talking about learning to live minimally, and that when he got out, he could get everything he needed at Home Depot.
He's a chameleon.
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05-13-2008, 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]
Scott knows that his appeal will almost assuredly result in a second trial or, at the very least, reduce his sentence. [/*]
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now SP is well versed on the law?.....SP knows? too funny....
hope he does better than the literary aficionado he purported to be with AF....
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05-13-2008, 09:15 PM
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now SP is well versed on the law?.....SP knows? too funny....
hope he does better than the literary aficionado he purported to be with AF....
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Scott heard Judge Delucchi say this case would become an Appellate attorney's petri dish, which is accurate due to the breadth and number of probable appeal issues.
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05-13-2008, 09:57 PM
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Most people like him do real well and it jus warms my heart. And I think Westerfield and SP should be cell mates. JMO
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05-13-2008, 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]
Scott knows that his appeal will almost assuredly result in a second trial or, at the very least, reduce his sentence. [/*]
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Both you and Scott can keep dreaming.
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05-13-2008, 10:55 PM
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Both you and Scott can keep dreaming. [/*]
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Even Greta finally recognized the number of strong appeal issues and said she now believes Scott's conviction will be reversed. Moreover, there are several strong appeal issues that could result in a reversal with prejudice, which would make Scott a free man.
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05-14-2008, 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by RachelRose [*]This is certainly a case that will be debated for decades.
The visceral reaction the public had to Scott Peterson, I believe, cost him his freedom. I don't believe there was any evidence to convict him - and in fact, the tidal evidence that brought the "Target Bags" from the bridge construction area right along with Laci's remains (so close to her remains, and arrived at the same time that the construction Target bags were considered to be part of her remains) should have made it clear to everyone where she washed up from - the base of the bridge. If the cement bags washed from there, why is there any doubt that Laci washed in from there - where it would be easy for anyone to deposit her, without use of a boat?
Why has the pawn ticket been ignored? Why have the lying thieves across the street at the time of her disappearance been ignored?
Had Laci been ugly, and Sharon Rocha been unlikeable, Scott Peterson wouldn't be in prison. [/*]
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it wasnt ignored, it was a 'prop' that had zero mileage on it...didnt go anywhere, did it....
he didnt bring in the the pawner nor the pawn broker who handled the transaction, therefore he couldnt 'talk' about it' with any other witnesses.....
....and they WERE available. the TJ bread expert was more important than that...LMAO
duh
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05-14-2008, 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by Wudge+ [*]
Scott heard Judge Delucchi say this case would become an Appellate attorney's petri dish, which is accurate due to the breadth and number of probable appeal issues. [/*]
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petri dishes dont always cultivate a viable specimen.
SP heard? time travel is pretty intense stuff.....Im sure over the past years he has caught up on the trial, you know, read all the parts he missed when he was off in his mind, dreaming of France, Maine and other locations to impress someone of his wealth and worldliness.....
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05-14-2008, 07:00 AM
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Originally posted by RachelRose [*]This is certainly a case that will be debated for decades.
The visceral reaction the public had to Scott Peterson, I believe, cost him his freedom. I don't believe there was any evidence to convict him - and in fact, the tidal evidence that brought the "Target Bags" from the bridge construction area right along with Laci's remains (so close to her remains, and arrived at the same time that the construction Target bags were considered to be part of her remains) should have made it clear to everyone where she washed up from - the base of the bridge. If the cement bags washed from there, why is there any doubt that Laci washed in from there - where it would be easy for anyone to deposit her, without use of a boat?
Why has the pawn ticket been ignored? Why have the lying thieves across the street at the time of her disappearance been ignored?
Had Laci been ugly, and Sharon Rocha been unlikeable, Scott Peterson wouldn't be in prison. [/*]
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Many people agree that there is insufficient evidence to support the charges. If Appellate jurists also agree, a reversal with prejudice would attach and double jeopardy would preclude a second trial.
In addition to the Richmond Bridge (probable Target bag source) being where Laci's body might have been dumped into the bay, access to the Hoffman Marsh is right between where the bodies of Connor and Laci were found. A secluded bridge also crosses the channel that flows from the bay to that marsh.
There is no reliable evidence to support Distaso's wild claim that Laci's body was submerged via weights and lay on the bottom of the bay for over three months. In fact, the evidence supports that Laci's body was exposed to continual wet/dry cycles, which could not have happened if her body was submerged in the bay as Distaso speculated.
I believe that Laci's body was dumped into the Hoffman marsh, and that her body eventually washed out to the bay from the marsh as a result of backwash from a storm.
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05-14-2008, 10:11 AM
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Re: Scott Peterson ... Said To Have Adjusted Well To Prison
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05-14-2008, 10:25 AM
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What time do the guards make Scott rise and shine out there every day?
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05-14-2008, 10:26 AM
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Of course he is adjusting to his life surrounded by the lowest of the lows. Living with those that have the same mentality will do that for you.
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05-14-2008, 10:38 AM
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Holiday, I know this case quite well, actually. Time will tell - I think 20 years from now, this will look different than it does now. [/*]
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Yep, it's going to look different. It's going to be the gray, thinning hair look.
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05-14-2008, 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by Beebee [*]
Hi Wudge,
Agree with you on all points above.
Then we have the baby..... so obviously placed where he was found. There is no way he was protected in Laci's hollow torso, "washed ashore" and flew over the rock jetty getting twine to somehow tie around his neck. I could go on and on about the baby. So many issues....
Like you, I feel Scott is adjusted because he has hope, rightfully so, and I also know he has a strong and loving family that give him an excellent support system, as well as long time supporters and friends.
I know one thing, he doesn't know or care about the people spewing hate for him on this message board, lol.
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BeeBee, I agree that the twine around Connor's neck is exonerating evidence. It is not reasonable to conclude that a circle of twice-knotted twine with a circumference significantly smaller than the circumference of Connor's head defied physics and worked it's way down Connor's head and past his ears to end up around his neck.
Not only is it not reasonable to conclude that, there was no testimony or other evidence presented at trial to even remotely explain how this could have happened; i.e., if the twice-knotted twine was not tied around Connor's neck by hand.
Moreover, Connor's head was not said to have been damaged by the twine being forced over his head via an assumed secret meeting of serendipity and happenstance. Yet Dr. Peterson testified that he probably would have damaged Connor's head if he attempted to do work the twine off without cutting it.
In other words, no damage was done when the twine was theoretically forced down and over Connor's head, however, if the twine were to have come off his head in the same way, Dr. Peterson believed he probably would have damaged Connor's head in the process.
By itself, the twine represents reasonable doubt. It's exonerating evidence.
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05-14-2008, 11:03 AM
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What is so hard to understand about tides and currents? I live near the water, my husband is a fisherman and let me tell you, it is nothing for twine to wrap around anything in the water. My husband can pull up a lobster trap that weighs 125 pounds or more and find all kinds of things wrapped around it. Old rope, sea weed, ect.
Tides and currents, along with sea life move all kinds of debris, big and small on the oceans floor. It's not science, it is common sense.
Hate to disappoint you that the so called "theory" isn't going over anyones head on this board, because the theory is non sense. It is fictional and to be honest, laughable.
Is the next theory one that involves the lochness monster tying the twine, it is equivalent in creditablity? lol
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05-14-2008, 11:22 AM
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Why are people so afraid of Scott getting another trial? Is there really that much concern that the evidence is shaky?
Look, if he gets a second trial, they convict him again, big deal.
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05-14-2008, 11:22 AM
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Snip ...should have made it clear to everyone where she washed up from - the base of the bridge. If the cement bags washed from there, why is there any doubt that Laci washed in from there - where it would be easy for anyone to deposit her, without use of a boat?
Why has the pawn ticket been ignored? Why have the lying thieves across the street at the time of her disappearance been ignored?
Had Laci been ugly, and Sharon Rocha been unlikeable, Scott Peterson wouldn't be in prison. [/*][/quote]
Seriously?? How can you totally dismiss all of the circumstantial evidence?? Your last comment is hysterical!! IMO
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05-14-2008, 11:22 AM
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If there really was info that would free Scott then Jackie would be screaming from the rooftops. She's quiet as a mouse.
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05-14-2008, 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by redcard [*]Why are people so afraid of Scott getting another trial? Is there really that much concern that the evidence is shaky?
Look, if he gets a second trial, they convict him again, big deal. [/*]
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I'm not scared of Scott getting another trial. I just hate wasting money and it would be a BIG waste of money!
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05-14-2008, 11:36 AM
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We all know that criminals facing the death penalty are given ample opportunity to introduce new evidence and facts that could result in them being rewarded a new trial.
However, when there is no such thing as NEW evidence, and the theories being bantered around are unproven and complete fiction, than the burden is placed on the tax payers for new trials. In this particular case it isn't coming out of my pocket, but regardless, it comes out of someone's pocket.
If anything, we should be speeding up the process for Scott Peterson alone.
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05-14-2008, 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by mrsmcgoo [*]t.
If anything, we should be speeding up the process for Scott Peterson alone.
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No no no.
I'm anti-death penalty, and I think that THAT's a waste of money in the long run, but.. that aside, we should support Scott getting every single appeal he wants or deserves. (Perhaps not successfully winning them.. but at least getting them.)
The act of taking a life , be it by the state or otherwise, I find deplorable. However, if we live in a society where the state gets to take a life, I want it to be after FULL consideration , and FULL reconsideration. It should not be sped up or done lightly, it should be deliberately slow and weighted to the defendant.
Notice, I'm not saying the defendant is going to get out. I'm not saying find him innocent. ALL I'm saying is that if we're going to do something we cannot undo, we should make every effort to make absolutely certain that this is the right course of action.
No speeding up necessary. I've seen too many people who were convicted because they couldn't afford a good attorney, and that tells me that we MUST work on treating these cases with due diligence.
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05-14-2008, 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by holiday [*]
NOT=exhonerating evidence.
Links to back up this ridiculous claim must be posted per TOS. Those must be from credible news sources not from sii. Marlene Newell, a fired secretary with no education has no credibility. I've reported you and have asked CW if we can prove where you continue take your garbage from.
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I know of no reasonable explanation for how the twine came to be around Connor's neck other than having been tied there by hand.
The M.E., Dr. Peterson, testified at trial.
9 Q. Now, did you examine it to see if it had anything
10 to do with any injury or any cause with Conner?
11 A. It wasn't so much of examining the tape, or
12 whatever it was. It was more a matter of examining the
13 neck. And I looked at the skin beneath that loop, and the
14 skin was undamaged. And I also dissected the neck organs
15 beneath the skin, and they were undamaged. So my --
16 Q. So what does that mean?
17 A. My conclusion was that that material had not
18 caused damage to the neck. And, in fact, my opinion was
19 and is that it was simply debris that had become associated
20 with the body.
Net, Dr. Peterson testifying that the twine "had become associated with the body" is hardly proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the twice-knotted twine magically defied physics and was tied around Connor's neck other than by hand.
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05-14-2008, 12:08 PM
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No no no.
I'm anti-death penalty, and I think that THAT's a waste of money in the long run, but.. that aside, we should support Scott getting every single appeal he wants or deserves. (Perhaps not successfully winning them.. but at least getting them.)
The act of taking a life , be it by the state or otherwise, I find deplorable. However, if we live in a society where the state gets to take a life, I want it to be after FULL consideration , and FULL reconsideration. It should not be sped up or done lightly, it should be deliberately slow and weighted to the defendant.
Notice, I'm not saying the defendant is going to get out. I'm not saying find him innocent. ALL I'm saying is that if we're going to do something we cannot undo, we should make every effort to make absolutely certain that this is the right course of action.
No speeding up necessary. I've seen too many people who were convicted because they couldn't afford a good attorney, and that tells me that we MUST work on treating these cases with due diligence. [/*]
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Well said.
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05-14-2008, 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by holiday [*]
What part of "link" don't you understand. Link to where you got this. I know for a fact where you take it from. The whole thing, not just snippets. You got in trouble on WS for playing the same game.
link link link A C R E D I * L E L I N K
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The testimony of the M.E., Dr. Peterson, that I posted is from a privately sourced transcript of the trial record that I have on my computer. Obviously, I can't post a link to that.
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Originally posted by redcard [*]
No no no.
I'm anti-death penalty, and I think that THAT's a waste of money in the long run, but.. that aside, we should support Scott getting every single appeal he wants or deserves. (Perhaps not successfully winning them.. but at least getting them.)
The act of taking a life , be it by the state or otherwise, I find deplorable. However, if we live in a society where the state gets to take a life, I want it to be after FULL consideration , and FULL reconsideration. It should not be sped up or done lightly, it should be deliberately slow and weighted to the defendant.
Notice, I'm not saying the defendant is going to get out. I'm not saying find him innocent. ALL I'm saying is that if we're going to do something we cannot undo, we should make every effort to make absolutely certain that this is the right course of action.
No speeding up necessary. I've seen too many people who were convicted because they couldn't afford a good attorney, and that tells me that we MUST work on treating these cases with due diligence. [/*]
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Yes, he is being afforded those opportunities you speak of.
He is being given MORE opportunity than most due to the media coverage, his high profile case and legal team, not to mention parents who are financially well off compared to most defendants. Also we have web pages asking and soliciting people to contribute to his legal cause. He is being looked after, believe me!
I think the death penalty is needed. Life in prison doesn't always mean life in prison. Ruthless criminals, such as Scott Peterson who kill innocent babies and women, the most vulnerable in our society need to be put to death.
JMO
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Originally posted by redcard [*]
No no no.
I'm anti-death penalty, and I think that THAT's a waste of money in the long run, but.. that aside, we should support Scott getting every single appeal he wants or deserves. (Perhaps not successfully winning them.. but at least getting them.)
The act of taking a life , be it by the state or otherwise, I find deplorable. However, if we live in a society where the state gets to take a life, I want it to be after FULL consideration , and FULL reconsideration. It should not be sped up or done lightly, it should be deliberately slow and weighted to the defendant.
Notice, I'm not saying the defendant is going to get out. I'm not saying find him innocent. ALL I'm saying is that if we're going to do something we cannot undo, we should make every effort to make absolutely certain that this is the right course of action.
No speeding up necessary. I've seen too many people who were convicted because they couldn't afford a good attorney, and that tells me that we MUST work on treating these cases with due diligence. [/*]
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I agree, well said
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What "theory" are you talking about?
I'm all eyes as to your theory of how the twine got tied around Conner's neck. Please explain. I would love to hear it. Please keep head and neck circumference in mind.
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I was talking about the theory that was expressed here on this board.
As for my theory, unless that twine was tied in a bow, it was exactly as presented at trial. Do you have information that it was?
The motion of the current placed it around Connor's neck. It's simple. It is explainable and accurate. It is something that happens alot I might add, having fished many long days. I am not saying this because I want to disagree either, I am saying this because I have SEEN it happen.
JMO but it is also fact!
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Originally posted by redcard [*]
No no no.
I'm anti-death penalty, and I think that THAT's a waste of money in the long run, but.. that aside, we should support Scott getting every single appeal he wants or deserves. (Perhaps not successfully winning them.. but at least getting them.)
The act of taking a life , be it by the state or otherwise, I find deplorable. However, if we live in a society where the state gets to take a life, I want it to be after FULL consideration , and FULL reconsideration. It should not be sped up or done lightly, it should be deliberately slow and weighted to the defendant.
Notice, I'm not saying the defendant is going to get out. I'm not saying find him innocent. ALL I'm saying is that if we're going to do something we cannot undo, we should make every effort to make absolutely certain that this is the right course of action.
No speeding up necessary. I've seen too many people who were convicted because they couldn't afford a good attorney, and that tells me that we MUST work on treating these cases with due diligence. [/*]
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wake up: this is the US. full consideration IS afforded convicts such as SP.
he already has his legal rights protected.....the DP has an automatic appeal. end of story. due diligence is afforded by the mere fact that he will go thru every avenue of appeal, year after year after year, probably up to 15 years.
he is supported by the laws in this country. your point is moot.
SP had a million dollar defense. he isnt one of the 'too many people being convicted because he couldnt afford a good attorney'.
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Originally posted by holiday [*]You just proved differently. Fact.
20 yrs from now? Scott will be executed. duh!
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Nope, he's in CA, not TX. In fact, the information about appeals (in CA) @ the time of his sentencing was that it takes up to 10 years for the appeal process to wend it's way thru the hoops---and he's "next in line" behind hundreds of other appealees (is there a word?) PLUS, he's so far down the execution line, he's more likely to die of old age before his date for execution comes up.
I personally don't think his appeals have the chance of a snowball in hades, but that's just me.
If he uses state appellate attorneys, he has to wait a long time. If privately hired appellate attorneys have been hired, it would seem, IF there was something there for appeal, in 4+ years they would have presented it by now, or filed to present it. IMO
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I was talking about the theory that was expressed here on this board.
As for my theory, unless that twine was tied in a bow, it was exactly as presented at trial. Do you have information that it was?
The motion of the current placed it around Connor's neck. It's simple. It is explainable and accurate. It is something that happens alot I might add, having fished many long days. I am not saying this because I want to disagree either, I am saying this because I have SEEN it happen.
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The problem is that there was no reasonable explanation offered at trial, by any witness, as regards how the twice-knotted twine could have come to be around Connor's neck if it was not tied there by hand.
In the preliminary hearing, the M.E., Dr. Peterson, was asked this very question by Judge Delucchi, and his attempted explanation was thought to be so good that the prosecutors refused to ask Dr. Peterson to repeat the answer he gave at preliminary hearing when he testified at trial.
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Oh my!!
So many things to dispute, so little time!! Glancing at just a few, I actually feel sorry for those that believe that stuff!!!
Thank you for link.
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05-14-2008, 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by RachelRose [*]This is certainly a case that will be debated for decades.
The visceral reaction the public had to Scott Peterson, I believe, cost him his freedom. I don't believe there was any evidence to convict him - and in fact, the tidal evidence that brought the "Target Bags" from the bridge construction area right along with Laci's remains (so close to her remains, and arrived at the same time that the construction Target bags were considered to be part of her remains) should have made it clear to everyone where she washed up from - the base of the bridge. If the cement bags washed from there, why is there any doubt that Laci washed in from there - where it would be easy for anyone to deposit her, without use of a boat?
Why has the pawn ticket been ignored? Why have the lying thieves across the street at the time of her disappearance been ignored?
Had Laci been ugly, and Sharon Rocha been unlikeable, Scott Peterson wouldn't be in prison. [/*]
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I'm thinking that, if those were exonerating pieces of evidence, and the prosecution didn't introduce them, that the DEFENSE (who had that information, in fact, brought it to the public's attention via the media) would have certainly introduced them in their DEFENSE of SP.
His DEFENSE lawyer, the one who shouted from the top of the courthouse steps that they KNEW who the murderer was---did not produce ANYTHING that pointed to anyone else, let alone produce the name of the murderer that was known to him (according to him.) It seems these pieces of "evidence" were "ignored" by defense, probably because these pieces of "evidence" proved to not be anything that were helpful to the defense of SP. IMO
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05-14-2008, 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by Beebee [*]
It was tied in a bow tie knot. [/*]
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People's Exhibit 253E, clearly shows the bow. I don't know if you can still upload and post pictures BeeBee, but if you can, posting 253E could be helpful.
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