April 22 to 27

nuttintodo · #1 04-22-2008, 10:41 AM

I'll start the thread....

Anyone have any ideas on the Denver connection to the case?

caejde · #2 04-22-2008, 10:51 AM

Just that I wonder if it's Tyler's cell phone...

Lyn_T · #3 04-22-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by caejde [*]Just that I wonder if it's Tyler's cell phone... [/*]

2nd that

hinman · #4 04-22-2008, 11:10 AM

I am considering it.

crymeariver2006 · #5 04-22-2008, 11:15 AM

Fourth it!

caejde · #6 04-22-2008, 11:16 AM

This could be a first...we're all agreeing on something.

nuttintodo · #7 04-22-2008, 11:25 AM

I'll 5th it or am I pleading the 5th?

crymeariver2006 · #8 04-22-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by nuttintodo [*]I'll 5th it or am I pleading the 5th?

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Or sharing it?

Mitzy2 · #9 04-22-2008, 11:31 AM

I'll 6th that , however since a female answered the phone yesterday when reporter Mike McHugh (OTC) called, it might be Amber's. Seems, Xtina, Tyler & Amber were complicit. The Verizon Subpoena was dated 2-15-08. LE got a hold of that cell phone # early on. JMO

caejde · #10 04-22-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by Mitzy2 [*]I'll 6th that , however since a female answered the phone yesterday when reporter Mike McHugh (OTC) called, it might be Amber's. Seems, Xtina, Tyler & Amber were complicit. The Verizon Subpoena was dated 2-15-08. LE got a hold of that cell phone # early on. JMO [/*]

True, it could be Amber's...or Amber could have answered it if Tyler couldn't.

Really wonder how much of part they all 3 played in this.

Mitzy2 · #11 04-22-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by caejde [*]

True, it could be Amber's...or Amber could have answered it if Tyler couldn't.

Really wonder how much of part they all 3 played in this. [/*]

I wonder as well. I have read theroies that all of them may have ganged up on poor Maria, before her dissappearance.

nuttintodo · #12 04-22-2008, 01:59 PM

Yes Kim, it's sad but true.

Anyway, LK has a teaser that the reporter from WNCT is working on something regarding the IP addresses that were being watched by LLE.

#13 04-22-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by nuttintodo [*]Yes Kim, it's sad but true.

Anyway, LK has a teaser that the reporter from WNCT is working on something regarding the IP addresses that were being watched by LLE. [/*]

That should ruffle some feathers!

gaelicpeas · #14 04-22-2008, 02:20 PM

Okay, there were 7 subpoenas/search warrants unsealed yesterday, right? Could somebody list what each was for? I have seen references to a phone number in Denver, a yahoo account about animal_batista_diego, and a phone call at Subway. What are the other 4 about? TIA!

Mitzy2 · #15 04-22-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by gaelicpeas [*]Okay, there were 7 subpoenas/search warrants unsealed yesterday, right? Could somebody list what each was for? I have seen references to a phone number in Denver, a yahoo account about animal_batista_diego, and a phone call at Subway. What are the other 4 about? TIA! [/*]

gaelic, there is a subpoena for CL's Bank account, My Space and other IP addresses, just off the top of my head.

caejde · #16 04-22-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by gaelicpeas [*]Okay, there were 7 subpoenas/search warrants unsealed yesterday, right? Could somebody list what each was for? I have seen references to a phone number in Denver, a yahoo account about animal_batista_diego, and a phone call at Subway. What are the other 4 about? TIA! [/*]

An email account in Christina's name.

nuttintodo · #17 04-22-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by gaelicpeas [*]Okay, there were 7 subpoenas/search warrants unsealed yesterday, right? Could somebody list what each was for? I have seen references to a phone number in Denver, a yahoo account about animal_batista_diego, and a phone call at Subway. What are the other 4 about? TIA! [/*]

GPeas,

They were for:

1) Roadrunner IP trace on 2/10 from 8 to 9pm

2) Embarq (formerly Sprint here) for calls to Subway on 3/31 between 7 and 7:45pm

3) Roadrunner IP trace for 1/21 (different IP number than #1)

4) Yahoo IP logs for CAL's email account from 1/15 to 2/22

5) Yahoo IP logs for CSL's email account from 2/11 to 2/22

6) MFCU bank records for all account held by CAL from 1/14 to 2/15

7) Verizon records for the Denver cell phone number

That's basically a summary GPeas.

caejde · #18 04-22-2008, 02:40 PM

They are:

1. phone records from the Subway
2. phone records from the Verizon cell phone # out of Denver
3. 2 for Roadrunner for IP's
4. the bank
5. the 2 email addresses through Yahoo

caejde · #19 04-22-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by nuttintodo [*]

GPeas,

They were for:

1) Roadrunner IP trace on 2/10 from 8 to 9pm

2) Embarq (formerly Sprint here) for calls to Subway on 3/31 between 7 and 7:45pm

3) Roadrunner IP trace for 1/21 (different IP number than #1)

4) Yahoo IP logs for CAL's email account from 1/15 to 2/22

5) Yahoo IP logs for CSL's email account from 2/11 to 2/22

6) MFCU bank records for all account held by CAL from 1/14 to 2/15

7) Verizon records for the Denver cell phone number

That's basically a summary GPeas. [/*]

Beat me to it!

nuttintodo · #20 04-22-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by caejde [*]

Beat me to it! [/*]

Sorry 'bout that!

sunstar · #21 04-22-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by Mitzy2 [*]I'll 6th that , however since a female answered the phone yesterday when reporter Mike McHugh (OTC) called, it might be Amber's. Seems, Xtina, Tyler & Amber were complicit. The Verizon Subpoena was dated 2-15-08. LE got a hold of that cell phone # early on. JMO [/*]

I'll also agree it could be the brother-in-law or Mrs. CL's sister ~ and to the "ganging up" theory as well. The motive was there to remove Maria from CL/Mrs. CL's lives. MOO

Babes · #22 04-22-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by sunstar [*]
I'll also agree it could be the brother-in-law or Mrs. CL's sister ~ and to the "ganging up" theory as well. The motive was there to remove Maria from CL/Mrs. CL's lives. MOO

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Geesh a cooperating witness and her cooperating family ( not all! )

sunstar · #23 04-22-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by Babes [*]

Geesh a cooperating witness and her cooperating family ( not all! )

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It wouldn't be the first time a family bands together against the "outsider".

strick10 · #24 04-22-2008, 03:20 PM

I think the parents know the truth.

SavannahStar · #25 04-22-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by strick10 [*]I think the parents know the truth. [/*]

IvySterling · #26 04-22-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by strick10 [*]I think the parents know the truth. [/*]

Morning/afternoon strick and all!

I don't know how much the Shifflets knew in the beginning when they went on Nat'l TV, but I'm thinking they sure know a lot now.

I feel sorry for them, and for all the parents involved in this mess.

Mitzy2 · #27 04-22-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by sunstar [*]
I'll also agree it could be the brother-in-law or Mrs. CL's sister ~ and to the "ganging up" theory as well. The motive was there to remove Maria from CL/Mrs. CL's lives. MOO

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It certainly doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility. That group sure was playing a lot of sneaky games when it came to communicating with CL. JMO

sunstar · #28 04-22-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by strick10 [*]I think the parents know the truth. [/*]

You might be right, but sometimes parents are the last ones to know what their children do.

sunstar · #29 04-22-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by Mitzy2 [*]

It certainly doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility. That group sure was playing a lot of sneaky games when it came to communicating with CL. JMO [/*]

Yes, a very circuitous way of communicating, through Amber's myspace and her computer, and now the husband's work and someone's cell phone. I guess they all underestimated LE!

Mitzy2 · #30 04-22-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by Babes [*]

Geesh a cooperating witness and her cooperating family ( not all! )

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Judging from all the subpoena's requested in Feb. 08, it doesn't appear that LE had a lot of "trust & faith" in their "Cooperating Witness".

strick10 · #31 04-22-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by IvySterling [*]
Morning/afternoon strick and all!

I don't know how much the Shifflets knew in the beginning when they went on Nat'l TV, but I'm thinking they sure know a lot now.

I feel sorry for them, and for all the parents involved in this mess. [/*]

I do too Ivey.

sunstar · #32 04-22-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by Mitzy2 [*] Judging from all the subpoena's requested in Feb. 08, it doesn't appear that LE had a lot of "trust & faith" in their "Cooperating Witness".

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I was just thinking the same thing.

marcusdog · #33 04-22-2008, 03:56 PM

Or thought they were but a young woman has lost her life and the life of her child. When they were communicating with a murderer did the have no conscience where these two deaths were concerned. Perhaps all four will be visiting the local state prison.

Mitzy2 · #34 04-22-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by sunstar [*]
I was just thinking the same thing.

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Great Minds and all that

While I realize that there was/is an on-going investigation, these "warrants" are very targeted/date & time specific for only 4 individuals. JMO

SavannahStar · #35 04-22-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Klukie [*]

Are they suppose to? I think it has been posted many times by posters complaining about LE taking Christina's word for everything.

Now you see that is not true. They have much more evidence you know nothing about. This is just the small tip of the iceberg.

Christina was not involved in the murder or cover up and was only communicating with Cesar not aiding and abetting. That is not against the law. She will not be charged.

They have never just taken her word for anything.

Now you are saying they didn't trust her.

What next?

JMO [/*]

Yep on everything!

IvySterling · #36 04-22-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by Klukie [*]

Are they suppose to? I think it has been posted many times by posters complaining about LE taking Christina's word for everything.

Now you see that is not true. They have much more evidence you know nothing about. This is just the small tip of the iceberg.

Christina was not involved in the murder or cover up and was only communicating with Cesar not aiding and abetting. That is not against the law. She will not be charged.

They have never just taken her word for anything.

Now you are saying they didn't trust her.

What next?

JMO [/*]

Rick Sutherland had said himself the LE had asked that if anyone had contact with Cesar to notify them, Christina, her sister and brother in law choose not to.

It may not be against the law in NC, but I certainly don't consider them to be cooperating with the LE, do you?

SavannahStar · #37 04-22-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by IvySterling [*]

Rick Sutherland had said himself the LE had asked that if anyone had contact with Cesar to notify them, Christina, her sister and brother in law choose not to.

It may not be against the law in NC, but I certainly don't consider them to be cooperating with the LE, do you? [/*]

If this bothers you (what they are called by LE), why don't you email RS himself and complain?

I'm not saying this to be insulting or facetious....but geez....

IvySterling · #38 04-22-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by SavannahStar [*]

If this bothers you (what they are called by LE), why don't you email RS himself and complain?

I'm not saying this to be insulting or facetious....but geez.... [/*]

I don't write emails to local officials about my personal feelings about that law, or any others in a State where I don't reside.

I'm stating HERE on a forum my take, just as you are!

gaelicpeas · #39 04-22-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by nuttintodo [*]

GPeas,

They were for:

1) Roadrunner IP trace on 2/10 from 8 to 9pm

2) Embarq (formerly Sprint here) for calls to Subway on 3/31 between 7 and 7:45pm

3) Roadrunner IP trace for 1/21 (different IP number than #1)

4) Yahoo IP logs for CAL's email account from 1/15 to 2/22

5) Yahoo IP logs for CSL's email account from 2/11 to 2/22

6) MFCU bank records for all account held by CAL from 1/14 to 2/15

7) Verizon records for the Denver cell phone number

That's basically a summary GPeas. [/*]

thanks, Nuttin and everybody else! Had to leave for a bit, so just now seeing this (and what others posted!)

SavannahStar · #40 04-22-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by IvySterling [*]
I don't write emails to local officials about my personal feelings about that law, or any others in a State where I don't reside.

I'm stating HERE on a forum my take, just as you are! [/*]

Okay, no offense meant and I apologize.

No problem.