Michelle Young 4/16 to 4/22

[Kat4Eagles]

Please start from here.

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

We were discussing the possibilities of Jason being seen back at Enchanted Oaks during the time Michelle was murdered.
Someone posted they don't look out the window after midnite, I would if I heard a car or something out of the ordinary.


And, the autopsy photos.
Agree to see them or disagree?


And the 911 call.

Kat

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles [*]
And, the autopsy photos.
Agree to see them or disagree?


Kat [/*]

It's done and over. Doesn't really matter who agrees or disagrees.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by W_D_1 [*]



If there was usually no traffic in the area and I heard a car I'd look as well. [/*]

Especially if they want us to believe the crime happened at the time they say.........3am.

No one saw or heard anything?

No one heard Michelle screaming?


Kat

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles [*]

Especially if they want us to believe the crime happened at the time they say.........3am.

No one heard Michelle screaming?


Kat [/*]

I doubt she had a chance to scream after someone just about choked her to death.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by W_D_1 [*]



If she was awake, as the fully clothed suggests, she may have seen the person coming and had time to scream. [/*]

It is so hard to imagine what may have happened, if she may have thought she had a chance of getting to the phone or running to a room where she could have locked the door inside from.

I wonder if she tried to make it into the bathroom or if parts of the struggle took place in the closet.
I know there was a rumor the closet was messed up.

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by annalyzer [*]

Did the poster's report indicate who the killer was? [/*]

It is very clear who the blogger thinks killed Michelle, although there was a time when they were also positive it was a hit.


Kat

[lilismom]

Originally posted by W_D_1 [*]


At that time of night sound carries. I can hear semi's leaving the intersection a mile away late at night. [/*]

That you Lindsay Wagner? You must have some hearing. I live right off a major highway and a bridge and I don't hear a thing, even with the windows open. Now, if my neighbor was screaming bloody murder, I'd probably hear it. Probably not though if she was being choked.....first.

IMO,
Lilismom

[lilismom]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles [*]

It is very clear who the blogger thinks killed Michelle, although there was a time when they were also positive it was a hit.


Kat [/*]

So. Isn't that also why we're here. To kick around ideas. To argue one side or the other. To form opinions? To change our minds when warranted?



IMO,
Lilismom

[lilismom]

Originally posted by W_D_1 [*]



Insults? Why did I expect better? [/*]

'


You should continue to expect better. It wasn't really meant to be an insult. That's not my style.

IMO,
Lilismom

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by lilismom [*]

So. Isn't that also why we're here. To kick around ideas. To argue one side or the other. To form opinions? To change our minds when warranted?



IMO,
Lilismom [/*]

Yep, but no one is changing their decison after almost 18 months of this debate.

Has anyone changed their mind or is looking at the case any differently?

I know it must have been around this time last year that I switched from a JDI to a fence sitter to a JII.

It has always been lack of motive, and the inability to grasp the hate behind the rage.

Who hates that much?
Who keeps killing after someone is dead.?

Kat.

[JHP]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles [*]

Especially if they want us to believe the crime happened at the time they say.........3am.

No one saw or heard anything?

No one heard Michelle screaming?


Kat [/*]

You must do alot of screaming. It seems to be important to you.

If she was asleep when the murder started she probably didn't have a chance to make much noise. Unfortunatly.

JMO

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by JHP [*]
You must do alot of screaming. It seems to be important to you.

If she was asleep when the murder started she probably didn't have a chance to make much noise. Unfortunatly.

JMO [/*]

Are you saying you wouldn't scream if someone was trying to kill you and you wanted to alert someone?

You wouldn't scream if you found a dead body in the middle of the afternoon on the floor in a bedroom.
And that dead body was your very own sister.

Then you are a non~screamer.


Kat

[lilismom]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles [*]

Are you saying you wouldn't scream if someone was trying to kill you and you wanted to alert someone?

You wouldn't scream if you found a dead body in the middle of the afternoon on the floor in a bedroom.
And that dead body was your very own sister.

Then you are a non~screamer.


Kat [/*]

The fact is that until you are in that situation, which thankfully I have never been, you can't know how you would react. It isn't fair to judge someone's reaction, compared to what you THINK your own would be then is it?

IMO,
Lilismom

[lilismom]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles [*]

Yep, but no one is changing their decison after almost 18 months of this debate.

Has anyone changed their mind or is looking at the case any differently?

I know it must have been around this time last year that I switched from a JDI to a fence sitter to a JII.

It has always been lack of motive, and the inability to grasp the hate behind the rage.

Who hates that much?
Who keeps killing after someone is dead.?

Kat. [/*]

Someone who wants to make darn certain they're dead. After all, she probably saw their face.

IMO,
Lilismom

[5swab5]

Funny, the news article doesn't mention the "swollen tongue". Guess the denial of viewing the blog is just another rumor.



http://wral.com/news/local/story/1196458/

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by 5swab5 [*]Funny, the news article doesn't mention the "swollen tongue". Guess the denial of viewing the blog is just another rumor.



http://wral.com/news/local/story/1196458/ [/*]

No, but someone who read the blog came back here and mentioned it.



Kat

[Nellikat]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles [*]We were discussing the possibilities of Jason being seen back at Enchanted Oaks during the time Michelle was murdered.
Someone posted they don't look out the window after midnite, I would if I heard a car or something out of the ordinary.


And, the autopsy photos.
Agree to see them or disagree?


And the 911 call.

Kat [/*]

Another discussion that was brought up on the other thread today was that Michelle still does not have a gravestone. I'm not saying it proves guilt, but does her husband not respect Michelle's memory enough to do this? Does this give more insight as to what he thought of Michelle when she was alive? Since this is my opinion, I'll go ahead and say that for me, this isn't about Laci, Meredith, Linda, a random killer, or a blogger... this is just wondering why her husband has not placed a gravestone for Michelle after all this time. If someone else murdered her then what is he waiting for?

jmo
nelli

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Gracia [*]

Very good point, swab! Hadn't even thought of that major clue!
Of course she read the blog, as did all of the other JII's.
That's how they find out info, by lurking, then spinning!

They lurk on all of the different forums, and they lurked on over to the autopsy photo blog also! [/*]

I had a personal link from RPD for the blog.
He was half way nice until he saw the pics.

Why not close all the other forums that you are so worried about, just give us custody of Gojo.

Thats all we want.


Kat

[5swab5]

Originally posted by Gracia [*]

There is a gravestone on Laci's grave. [/*]

There certainly is! Not paid for by her murdering husband either.

Maybe Linda wants to wait so Michelle's won't have the name "Young" on it. Can't blame her for that.



MOO

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Nellikat [*]

Another discussion that was brought up on the other thread today was that Michelle still does not have a gravestone. I'm not saying it proves guilt, but does her husband not respect Michelle's memory enough to do this? Does this give more insight as to what he thought of Michelle when she was alive? Since this is my opinion, I'll go ahead and say that for me, this isn't about Laci, Meredith, Linda, a random killer, or a blogger... this is just wondering why her husband has not placed a gravestone for Michelle after all this time. If someone else murdered her then what is he waiting for?

jmo
nelli [/*]

I guess without knowing all that is going on between the 2 families, it is difficult to say.

If L F thinks Jason did it, and he wanted to get a marker, she could say she did not want the name Young on it.

Maybe each one is jusst waiting each other out.

Is Laci's tombstone with the name Rocha?
I don't think Lori Hacking's family allowed her married name on it.
And Nicole Brown Simpson, I think , is just Nicole Brown.


Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Gracia [*]

I agree, nelli. It shows a lack of care and love, to me anyway.
It's as if Michelle didn't matter to her husband, like her life and her death, had no effect on him.

I think it's very sad and very disrespecful. [/*]

But , we don't know all the circumstances.

Good grief, Jason can not catch a break from you guys.
If he had purchased a tombstone, and went there every Sunday, sobbing, and falling plumb to his knees at her grave, it still wouldn't be enough, would it?



Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Gracia [*]

Kat, I don't think anyone is keeping Gojo away from here or anywhere else, for that matter. He makes his own choices of what forum he wants to post on.

He's free to come here if he wants, no one's holding him hostage Kat. [/*]

I know it.
I was just messing with you.



Kat

ETA......... But, seriously, if you don't want us reading elsewhere, close your sites and stop posting the links here.
Sheesh.

[5swab5]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles [*]

I guess without knowing all that is going on between the 2 families, it is difficult to say.

If L F thinks Jason did it, and he wanted to get a marker, she could say she did not want the name Young on it.

Maybe each one is jusst waiting each other out.

Is Laci's tombstone with the name Rocha?
I don't think Lori Hacking's family allowed her married name on it.
And Nicole Brown Simpson, I think , is just Nicole Brown.


Kat [/*]

I'm sorry, but before Jason wasted money going to Disney World, on a cruise, to the beach or gambling, he should have put a marker on Michelle and Rylan's grave.

That is what a loving caring husband and father would do!

ONLY someone who couldn't care less, would neglect to take care of that final act of respect.

MOO

[Danica]

Originally posted by JustFacts [*]

I'm not the topic of this forum so kindly abide by the TOS and stop tossing the bait.

Thanks. [/*]

We are all quite aware of who the topic of this board is, no matter how much attention you try and seek by your baiting and misrepresenting others posts. JMO

[Danica]

Originally posted by agathachristie [*]

Makes perfect sense to me, Gracia. It's right up there with the claims of having certain people on ignore. Trust me, they would never have anyone on ignore. They might miss something.

My very humble and honest opinion. [/*]

And you are absolutely correct Aggie, it's laughable the way these ppl twist everything so as to never appear wrong.

Justice for Michelle

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Gracia [*]

Kat,
My point was that everyone has seen the autopsy blog, and all of the others, if you're interested in this case and what's going on.

But some would lead us to believe that never looked at the blog ( autopsy ). and that's not so.

I don't care where you post or read.

Guess it hit me the wrong way that some would say they didn't have an interest in reading the autopsy blog, when the info they repeated showed the opposite.

Does that make sense?

[/*]

Yes, Gracia....... it makes sense.
I don't know what to tell you though, taking sides has divided us and until the case is solved, we just look at things differently.
But, never would I make a site just so I could talk about posters behind their backs .
I see my name posted at your sites almost non~stop.
So, who is it that is making me more important than I am really am
???????????????????????????????????



Kat

[Danica]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles [*]

I had a personal link from RPD for the blog.
He was half way nice until he saw the pics.

Why not close all the other forums that you are so worried about, just give us custody of Gojo.

Thats all we want.


Kat [/*]

If that's all you want, go find him, start your own board. We, on the other hand want to discuss (intelligently/honestly) the murder of Michelle Young. You are free to go, lemme get the door for you...

Justice for Michelle

[Danica]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles [*]

Yes, Gracia....... it makes sense.
I don't know what to tell you though, taking sides has divided us and until the case is solved, we just look at things differently.
But, never would I make a site just so I could talk about posters behind their backs .
I see my name posted at your sites almost non~stop.
So, who is it that is making me more important than I am really am
???????????????????????????????????



Kat [/*]

LOL, I am pretty sure that is happening NO WHERE, if you're seeing your name posted it may not be because of your "importance"...just sayin
BTW Can you try and stay ON TOPIC ?
Thanks in advance

[Danica]

Originally posted by W_D_1 [*]


No it doesn't make sense. You keep claiming everyone has seen the blog when that isn't true. The info I have posted about was on this board long ago. You may not have been here or just forget I don't know which. But your claim that everyone has been to that site is flat out wrong. [/*]

If the post didn't apply to you, why protest so much ?

[Danica]

snipped from KAT4EAGLES post:
"quote:Originally posted by Kat4Eagles[*]We were discussing the possibilities of Jason being seen back at Enchanted Oaks during the time Michelle was murdered.
Someone posted they don't look out the window after midnite, I would if I heard a car or something out of the ordinary."
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Usually most people would be sleeping at that hour, and if someone did see Jasons' SUV would it be unusual enough for them to give it a second thought ? Doubtful, and given the time of year who would have windows open after midnite, a tad chilly don't you think ? Another thing that was brought up was the fact that Michelle was dressed, wearing a hoodie. I believe we read that the upstairs heating was not functioning, that would explain her choice of clothes for the night. JMO

Justice for Michelle

[Danica]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles [*]

Especially if they want us to believe the crime happened at the time they say.........3am.

No one saw or heard anything?

No one heard Michelle screaming?


Kat [/*]

Who is this "they" who wants you to believe the murder happened at 3 am. The TOD is a 6 hour window, unless there have been any updates to that time. 12:00 am - 6:00 am November 3, 2006.
Your choice of wording (see above) is disturbing, it almost sounds like baiting. But, that couldln't be right, could it KAT ?

[Nellikat]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles [*]


But , we don't know all the circumstances.

Good grief, Jason can not catch a break from you guys.
If he had purchased a tombstone, and went there every Sunday, sobbing, and falling plumb to his knees at her grave, it still wouldn't be enough, would it?



Kat [/*]

I fully agree that we don't know all the circumstances. I think I am trying to give Jason a break or I wouldn't ask any questions at all. He was her husband and if he is the suspect, then yes, I agree that there could be many reasons there isn't a gravestone yet. If he is innocent, then what is the delay?

jmo
nelli

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by Danica [*]snip~ , and if someone did see Jasons' SUV would it be unusual enough for them to give it a second thought ? Doubtful, [/*]

Uh yes if the next day they found out their neighbor had been murdered in the middle of the night and LE came asking them if they'd seen any vehicles.

[Danica]

Originally posted by W_D_1 [*]




I guess you missed the part that said EVERYONE??? Or do you not know what that word means? I'd be happy to supply you with the definition if you are having more problems. [/*]

Spare me your condescending posts, save them for someone more deserving, there are a few right in your area that need it.
I still say you protest too much LOL

[Danica]

Originally posted by annalyzer [*]

Uh yes if the next day they found out their neighbor had been murdered in the middle of the night and LE came asking them if they'd seen any vehicles. [/*]

A vehicle that is seen in that neighborhood on a daily/nightly basis would hardly stick out in their minds JMO And if JY was driving in the area on the night in question, he must not have thought he'd be noticed either. As far as we've heard he wasn't. That could point to him parking near the Pool area or even behind his house in the wooded area JMO

[Danica]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles [*]

No, but someone who read the blog came back here and mentioned it.



Kat [/*]

Was it JustFacts ?

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by Captan Joe [*]Now this is getting ridiculous:
http://tiny.cc/BeLTc
http://tiny.cc/Gp1WH [/*]

[Danica]

Originally posted by W_D_1 [*]


Or it points to him being out of town and someone else being guilty. [/*]

Well, we just don't know now do we ?
All scenarios are possible, for the time being anyway...It's still a fact that all the Search Warrants are focused on Jason Young and only him. Haven't seen any for Meredith or anyone else though have we?

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by W_D_1 [*]


I'd be wary of links like that. [/*]

I'm not afraid to open the links I just don't understand why they were posted.