Monday - 03/10/08 - a.m.

henry · #1 03-10-2008, 05:45 AM

good morning . . . well, we've finally hit the big six oh today (for those sans coffee, that means 60 days). & i learned a new word last nite . . . a-sparkin - southern talk for dating, running around with. sorry, no link - pm from AB. in learning new words, here's a link that may keep you busy as a bee if a troll comes in (courtesy of gvs blogwire) :
http://www.freerice.com/index.php

also bkwits posted the following link yesterday . . . although i knew this, it made me wonder how this whole fiasco could have been averted.

He said civilian authorities had not spoken to Corporal Laurean, despite the disappearance, because his lawyer declined to make him available.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/us...rssnyt&emc=rss

is this something common that lawyers do . . . is it ethical . . .

henry · #2 03-10-2008, 07:40 AM

regarding the "new" questions for captain sutherland:

. . . is it permissible to pm nuttintodo with question(s) that one does not want to openly post? (crap . . . please don't make me explain this one!!!!)

. . . i will defer to nuttintodo's work/social schedule as to when the question board will be shut down as it does take significant time to group/rephrase (i'm assuming we're giving nuttintodo some literary license here) . . . but my suggestion would be to keep it open at least until this friday and then request c/w to close it . . . at nuttintodo's request. perhaps nuttintodo could then be the first post of a designated day of all proposed final questions and any further refinements/finetuning be posted that day.

i'll leave my flack jacket off until i see the responses

crymeariver2006 · #3 03-10-2008, 08:38 AM

Fascinating questions! Every time I read one, I think of another question - but mostly see that someone else was thinking the same thing!

Hopefully we'll get some news today!

caejde · #4 03-10-2008, 08:52 AM

Good morning everyone! Have to finish reading last nights thread. So, I'm off to do that. I hope for something new everyday...but sadly there isn't anything.

strick10 · #5 03-10-2008, 10:27 AM

Morning All! Another day and not a word regarding CAL,,,,grrrrr.

caejde · #6 03-10-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by strick10 [*]

Morning All! Another day and not a word regarding CAL,,,,grrrrr. [/*]

Hey Strick! Good to see ya...haven't seen ya in a while!

Kel65 · #7 03-10-2008, 11:00 AM

Do we know for a fact how many people are in Cesar's immediate family? I'm just wondering if there is a brother?

I understand that Cesar's truck was registered to a Salvador Laurean on Gum Branch Road in Jacksonville. His father (Salvador) could have put the truck in his name. Cesar being so young, probably didn't have much credit and this may have been a way for him to get the truck. That is a lot vehicle (cost wise) for a young junior enlisted Marine. The address on Gum Branch Road may have been for a residence that Cesar occupied at the time he (or I should probably say his father) purchased the vehicle.

JMO

strick10 · #8 03-10-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by caejde [*]

Hey Strick! Good to see ya...haven't seen ya in a while! [/*]

Hey caejde! Glad you made it back from your weekend adventure safely. Been on the board off and on, there's this thing called work that's been calling frequently as of late. I've been searching the mexican websites this a.m. looking for any updates regarding CAL and seems like there are no updates.

caejde · #9 03-10-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by strick10 [*]

Hey caejde! Glad you made it back from your weekend adventure safely. Been on the board off and on, there's this thing called work that's been calling frequently as of late. I've been searching the mexican websites this a.m. looking for any updates regarding CAL and seems like there are no updates. [/*]

Yea we made it back. I don't work...I'm a stay at home mom which is enough work in itself though!

I just don't know what to make of no sighting of Caesar. But like my husband has reminded me...look at Eric Rudolph.

caejde · #10 03-10-2008, 11:05 AM

Could the old saying "No news is good news" apply here?

Kel65 · #11 03-10-2008, 11:06 AM

I suspect Cesar has some plastic surgery done, as well as tattoo removal/alteration. If this is accurate, all the more difficult to find the needle in the haystack. Speculation on my part and JMO.

caejde · #12 03-10-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Kel65 [*]I suspect Cesar has some plastic surgery done, as well as tattoo removal/alteration. If this is accurate, all the more difficult to find the needle in the haystack. Speculation on my part and JMO. [/*]

Tatoo removal takes several treatments over a period of several weeks...and is rather costly. Same goes for plastic surgery.

Kel65 · #13 03-10-2008, 11:12 AM

If his family in Mexico has $$$ they could have paid for both. I bet you can get some pretty shoddy work done cheap in the underground. JMO

Never thought about the Sharpie route, but that is feasible.

caejde · #14 03-10-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by AnnieBean [*]

Yesp, wasn't he an accomplished "survivalist" tho and that helped him (along with some of the sympathertic publics help) alot. Wonder how much marine training in survival he remembers. [/*]

I don't really know what Rudolph's background was. As for Cesar...they dont' really teach you survival...not as thorough if he were a grunt or recon etc. He has basic knowledge.

strick10 · #15 03-10-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by Kel65 [*]If his family in Mexico has $$$ they could have paid for both. I bet you can get some pretty shoddy work done cheap in the underground. JMO

Never thought about the Sharpie route, but that is feasible. [/*]

I kinda think the Sharpie route would work for him at least for the meantime.

henry · #16 03-10-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by Coldwater [*]

PM nuttintodo and ask her advice. [/*]

thank you c/w - pm sent

Kel65 · #17 03-10-2008, 11:19 AM

Probably some good pancake type foundation make up could hide them too.

Moles are probably gone too. He could have cut them off himself.

JMO

caejde · #18 03-10-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by Kel65 [*]Probably some good pancake type foundation make up could hide them too.

Moles are probably gone too. He could have cut them off himself.

JMO [/*]

It would have to be darn good foundation. I experimented and used my regular foundation to try to cover my tatoo up...didn't work. It covered it but could still be seen. But you could tell that it was a good size amount as well.

henry · #19 03-10-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by AnnieBean [*] [/*]

AB - are you okay? it's been over 24 hrs to recover

. . . did you mean to say something?

henry · #20 03-10-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by Kel65 [*]Probably some good pancake type foundation make up could hide them too.

Moles are probably gone too. He could have cut them off himself.

JMO [/*]

the official (?) myspace mfl tribute has a good wanted poster - scroll down & on the right
http://www.myspace.com/mflmemorial

Kel65 · #21 03-10-2008, 11:25 AM

I wonder what the makeup artists in Hollywood do to cover tattoos for people like A. Jolie who have them, but you don't notice them when they play a part in a movie? I suppose they could be removed through film editing of some sort?

This is one of the reasons that I don't have a tattoo. Too permanent for me. I'm so fickle. I'd like it one day and not the next.

henry · #22 03-10-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by caejde [*]

It would have to be darn good foundation. I experimented and used my regular foundation to try to cover my tatoo up...didn't work. It covered it but could still be seen. But you could tell that it was a good size amount as well. [/*]

wonder if he knows about this - my niece uses it for a dog bite scar on her face . . . it also lists covering up tatoos and which product to use . . . so i guess it is possible, but i like the permanent marker better - and if he has a tan by now, it will be less noticeable . . . jmo
http://www.dermablend.com/ProductsBySkinCondition.aspx

henry · #23 03-10-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by AnnieBean [*]

Wonder if Michael Jackson is a loyal customer?

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and couldn't you have found a cheaper egg . . . not that nuttintodo isn't worth it!

Kel65 · #24 03-10-2008, 11:37 AM

I might have to invest in some of that foundation. This getting old stuff is for the birds.

Kel65 · #25 03-10-2008, 11:42 AM

It has been a while since I had one removed. If I remember correctly it was pretty much a razor blade they used to remove it. Of course, they had the area numbed, so I really didn't feel anything. I was told to stay out of the sun, immediately after it was removed to help prevent scaring and that the best time of year to do it was in winter. I'm sure foundation could cover some of the scaring it there was any.

I'd think, enough tequila and a razor blade would do the trick. JMO

strick10 · #26 03-10-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by AnnieBean [*]Maybe hes joined up with some revolutionary drug cartel as a mercernary. Don't they have some conflicts going on down there big-time?

ETA: Parlayed his fugitive status and now his hx as a murderer into something lucrative and protective for him while hes on the run? [/*]

Hi AB. Yes Mexico has some very ugly and large drug cartel conflicts happening. IMO think his family is helping him out though.

henry · #27 03-10-2008, 11:50 AM

question please . . . is it unusual for one's military id name to be one's middle & last name?
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?se...cal&id=5890539

bkwits · #28 03-10-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by Kel65 [*]I wonder what the makeup artists in Hollywood do to cover tattoos for people like A. Jolie who have them, but you don't notice them when they play a part in a movie? I suppose they could be removed through film editing of some sort?

This is one of the reasons that I don't have a tattoo. Too permanent for me. I'm so fickle. I'd like it one day and not the next. [/*]

I can ask my LA grdaughter who went to school for that and did some free work. She loved it but couldn't get paying work so now is back in school to be a CPA (the family bus.)

Kel65 · #29 03-10-2008, 11:52 AM

I believe his family is helping him out too. He probably is lying low and not out in public much, if at all. JMO

If he is being hidden by the family, I wonder how much of the family knows that he is hidden and where. I hope a lot of them know, becuase the more that know the more likely that the someone will eventually blab to someone, especially if there is drinking involved. We can only hope!

bkwits · #30 03-10-2008, 11:55 AM

Mornin' all

Day 60 of the hunt for Laurean

Day 5 of my flu. I think I'm getting better. My family left Muddy the Choc. lab to take care of me.

Kel65 · #31 03-10-2008, 11:56 AM

As far as military id, I believe it has to contain your legal first and last name. How that works for hispanics, I don't know since they seems to have a multitude of last names.

My military id has my first name, middle initial, last name.

caejde · #32 03-10-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by henry [*]

question please . . . is it unusual for one's military id name to be one's middle & last name?
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?se...cal&id=5890539 [/*]

For me, my ID was last name, first name, middle initial. For those that hyphenate or have multiple...I'm not sure.

crymeariver2006 · #33 03-10-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by bkwits [*]*snip*
Day 5 of my flu. I think I'm getting better. My family left Muddy the Choc. lab to take care of me.

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Is that in case you need LAB work?

<groan>

Kel65 · #34 03-10-2008, 12:02 PM

Clarification, my military id has my last name, first name, middle initial. My signature on the card has first name, middle initial, last name.

nuttintodo · #35 03-10-2008, 12:04 PM

In regards to the questions being submitted to Capt. Sutherland, I'll be submitting them to him this Thursday, March 13th.

I will begin to compile all the questions on Wednesday, combine all double questions, etc. Before I actually submit them I will bring all the questions here so everyone will have the opportunity to make sure they are worded correctly and the questions are exactly what you would like for Sutherland to answer.

As a reminder: Please be aware he has stated that he may not be able to answer any or all of them but hopefully he can at least answer some of them.

I will then pm CW and ask her to lock the thread containing the questions.

jmo

nuttintodo · #36 03-10-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by bkwits [*]

Mornin' all

Day 60 of the hunt for Laurean

Day 5 of my flu. I think I'm getting better. My family left Muddy the Choc. lab to take care of me. <had to steal this one> [/*]

Have you been taking the Tamiflu? I am glad to hear you are doing better. The flu is something terrible!

I'm feeling much better and this pneumonia is finally getting better!

for you bkwits.

bkwits · #37 03-10-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by henry [*]good morning . . . well, we've finally hit the big six oh today (for those sans coffee, that means 60 days). & i learned a new word last nite . . . a-sparkin - southern talk for dating, running around with. sorry, no link - pm from AB. in learning new words, here's a link that may keep you busy as a bee if a troll comes in (courtesy of gvs blogwire) :
http://www.freerice.com/index.php

also bkwits posted the following link yesterday . . . although i knew this, it made me wonder how this whole fiasco could have been averted.

He said civilian authorities had not spoken to Corporal Laurean, despite the disappearance, because his lawyer declined to make him available.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/us...rssnyt&emc=rss

is this something common that lawyers do . . . is it ethical . . . [/*]

Mornin' henry,

First I want to thank you for the rice game. I love it.

Next, I want to maybe add a word you may not have heard before along the same line as sparking, and that is "shivaree"
both of these words can be found at

http://dictionary.reference.com/

As to your question about the defense lawyer, it is the defense atty's job to keep his client from answering any questions that may put the defendant in legal jeopardy. IOW, the lawyer must have known that Cesar was in deep doodoo. IMO

caejde · #38 03-10-2008, 12:13 PM

If Mark Raynor-who Cesar went to on that Thursday-knew that he was leaving the country, doesn't he have to turn that over being he is an officer of the court? Or is he bound by client/attorney privilige? What about ethics?

bkwits · #39 03-10-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by crymeariver2006 [*]

Is that in case you need LAB work?

<groan>

[/*]

He heard you here he comes for a treat.

bkwits · #40 03-10-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by AnnieBean [*]quote:
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Originally posted by Kel65 [*]Probably some good pancake type foundation make up could hide them too.

Moles are probably gone too. He could have cut them off himself.

JMO [/*]E

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Ouch- removing your own moles has got to be painful and rather bloody. Would leave a scar instead of a mole. Ick. jmo [/*]

IMO

Exactly what I was thinking. I have several moles. One prominent one on my collarbone that has been scraped. Just that was bloody and painful. Moles have to be removed by plastic surgery, I think.
Can laser do it now?