Feb 21, 22

ruby · #1 02-21-2008, 10:05 AM

Welcome to a new day, hopefully with new answers. Time to be thankful that we made it to another day...

Here's hoping for answers

Anakerie · #2 02-21-2008, 11:30 AM

Good morning everyone...

I've just been looking at the Reno Gazette-Journal website and there aren't any new stories there, just stories from yesterday. Hopefully we'll hear something later this morning.

Reno Gazette-Journal page with all their stories about Brianna

#3 02-21-2008, 12:02 PM

I was thinking about the panties left at the scene.Was it just a mistake or is this guy that arrogant to send a message?In this case he is getting more dangerous.

#4 02-21-2008, 12:36 PM

Every woman in Reno is terrified. Think the perp is enjoying this. They'll get him, if he's there. Could be hiding in plain sight.

ruby · #5 02-21-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by wandering [*]Every woman in Reno is terrified. Think the perp is enjoying this. They'll get him, if he's there. Could be hiding in plain sight. [/*]

Yah I am confident he will be apprehended....he's getting to cocky, and he'll mess up, */c he wants to be 'famous'...and i use that term lightly.

Brattnt · #6 02-21-2008, 12:40 PM

I hope they find him soon....It's about time for him to do it again....

ruby · #7 02-21-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by Brattnt [*]I hope they find him soon....It's about time for him to do it again....

[/*]

I know that's what worries me...it worries me that he's already struck again...but I would think someone would be reported missing, and surely a rape victim wouldn't let this go with all that's going on with this case.

#8 02-21-2008, 12:56 PM

just wanted to add an alternative possibility about the 4th womans DNA found on the underwear.. think of how easy it would be to get the DNA, even without a "victim." Simply rub the underwear on a toilet in a public restroom.

I wonder if the focus is now on a "4th victim" while less focus is on the killer.

Anakerie · #9 02-21-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by mxma30 [*]just wanted to add an alternative possibility about the 4th womans DNA found on the underwear.. think of how easy it would be to get the DNA, even without a "victim." Simply rub the underwear on a toilet in a public restroom.

I wonder if the focus is now on a "4th victim" while less focus is on the killer. [/*]

I'm sure the main focus is on the killer. Why would they put him on a back burner while they search for this 4th woman? They need to catch HIM before he feels the urge to attack again.

#10 02-21-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by mxma30 [*]just wanted to add an alternative possibility about the 4th womans DNA found on the underwear.. think of how easy it would be to get the DNA, even without a "victim." Simply rub the underwear on a toilet in a public restroom.

I wonder if the focus is now on a "4th victim" while less focus is on the killer. [/*]

Well, the DNA was at the scene. I don't think they are focusing solely on that. They want to find him, before he kills again. He's very dangerous, because he sneaks up from the back. Pepper spray and tasers wouldn't help much in this situation.

#11 02-21-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by Anakerie [*]

I'm sure the main focus is on the killer. Why would they put him on a back burner while they search for this 4th woman? They need to catch HIM before he feels the urge to attack again. [/*]

now there's a silly question. same reason the girls would leave a front door unlocked, people do stupid things.

Anakerie · #12 02-21-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by mxma30 [*]

now there's a silly question. same reason the girls would leave a front door unlocked, people do stupid things. [/*]

I guess I'm stupid then. I have gone to bed and forgotten to lock my front door.. Same with my back door! But then I live in a very small community and I feel SAFE here.

From what I remember from the interviews with the roommates in that house, they left the front door unlocked for a couple of reasons. One is that they had locks on their individual bedroom doors. Another is that there was so much coming and going in the house with the roommates, that they left it unlocked for convenience sake. Another thing is that they felt SAFE in that neighborhood. Apparently they hadn't heard about the other attacks by this POS in that area.

IMO, there should have been more publicity, by the media and by the university, to warn about the attacks so that people would be more aware and more safety conscious.

Brattnt · #13 02-21-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by mxma30 [*]

now there's a silly question. same reason the girls would leave a front door unlocked, people do stupid things. [/*]

I have no doubt that the police are doing everything they can to find this guy, and that their focus is on HIM....You said it yourself, the womans DNA could have come from anywhere....If you thought of that, dont you think the police have as well?....

JMO

Brattnt · #14 02-21-2008, 01:55 PM

Not sure if this has been posted here yet....It's a good article....I didnt know he had tried to break into the December victims apartment the day before Brianna was taken...

Police said DNA indicates the suspect then tried to break into the December victim’s apartment on Jan. 19, the night before Denison was kidnapped.

“So it seems that Mr. Almighty himself is going to show back up and teach her a lesson,” Kelly said.

Kelly said the suspect likely went into a rage because she disobeyed his order not to report the rape to police. He said the suspect showing up at her house was “insane” because he knew people would be looking for him there.

“So he leaves that apartment, carrying this rage inside because he couldn’t take it out on her, and then goes by and sees Brianna sleeping on a couch,” he said.

Drops of Denison’s blood was found on her pillow in a friend’s home on MacKay Court. A teddy bear she was using remains missing.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...&Ref=AR&Show=0

bred · #15 02-21-2008, 01:56 PM

I doubt if there's much of a "search" going on for the owner of the undies...they'd just like her to come forward. I wonder if the woman knows they are hers but is afraid LE won't keep her name secret...like maybe she is married...OR the owner is no longer living...who knows...we could guess forever.

Are we accepting the "posed" statement as a FACT?

ruby · #16 02-21-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by bred [*]I doubt if there's much of a "search" going on for the owner of the undies...they'd just like her to come forward. I wonder if the woman knows they are hers but is afraid LE won't keep her name secret...like maybe she is married...OR the owner is no longer living...who knows...we could guess forever.

Are we accepting the "posed" statement as a FACT? [/*]

I don't want to think of her as 'posed'...as it hasn't been released. I only heard it from the 'expert pannel' on NG last night...not sure how to take it.

#17 02-21-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by Brattnt [*]Not sure if this has been posted here yet....It's a good article....I didnt know he had tried to break into the December victims apartment the day before Brianna was taken...

Police said DNA indicates the suspect then tried to break into the December victim’s apartment on Jan. 19, the night before Denison was kidnapped.

“So it seems that Mr. Almighty himself is going to show back up and teach her a lesson,” Kelly said.

Kelly said the suspect likely went into a rage because she disobeyed his order not to report the rape to police. He said the suspect showing up at her house was “insane” because he knew people would be looking for him there.

“So he leaves that apartment, carrying this rage inside because he couldn’t take it out on her, and then goes by and sees Brianna sleeping on a couch,” he said.

Drops of Denison’s blood was found on her pillow in a friend’s home on MacKay Court. A teddy bear she was using remains missing.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...&Ref=AR&Show=0 [/*]

This man is full of rage, but he is leaving a trail of DNA so I think he will be caught.

ruby · #18 02-21-2008, 02:41 PM

How do you all feel about the adult entertainer occupation for this dude?
I know this has been brought up a lot here and on the news, due to his shaved region. I know Nevada has a lot of adult entertainment businesses, but based on the description and sketch, I highly doubt it.

He doesn't appear to be attractive, and someone pointed him out as having a 'firm beer belly' if I remember correctly.

Thoughts, Rebuttles?

ccat · #19 02-21-2008, 02:42 PM

Perpetrators often return to reminisce about the crime. I wonder if there is surveillance at the place where Brianna was left? He might be too cautious to return to the place of abduction, but it might give him some form of perverse satisfaction to return to the place where he left her - and left everyone befuddled.
I can't wait until he gets caught. I hope he does not stay uncaught as long as BTK did.

ruby · #20 02-21-2008, 02:43 PM

Here's a thought, perhaps he has an STD (crabs) and that's why he shaves...as possible as the rest of the what ifs.

#21 02-21-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by ccat [*]Perpetrators often return to reminisce about the crime. I wonder if there is surveillance at the place where Brianna was left? He might be too cautious to return to the place of abduction, but it might give him some form of perverse satisfaction to return to the place where he left her - and left everyone befuddled.
I can't wait until he gets caught. I hope he does not stay uncaught as long as BTK did. [/*]

I had not thought of this, good idea tho and I hope LE is watching that patch of ground.

baywench · #22 02-21-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by Anakerie [*]

I guess I'm stupid then. I have gone to bed and forgotten to lock my front door.. Same with my back door! But then I live in a very small community and I feel SAFE here.

From what I remember from the interviews with the roommates in that house, they left the front door unlocked for a couple of reasons. One is that they had locks on their individual bedroom doors. Another is that there was so much coming and going in the house with the roommates, that they left it unlocked for convenience sake. Another thing is that they felt SAFE in that neighborhood. Apparently they hadn't heard about the other attacks by this POS in that area.

IMO, there should have been more publicity, by the media and by the university, to warn about the attacks so that people would be more aware and more safety conscious. [/*]

I have raised three daughters, and although I understand what you are saying I also banged into their heads that they must be responsible for their own safety and be empowered to do everything they could to not be a victim. That means taking all the precautions. With all due respect, I think many people feel safe until something happens to them. I do not think it was a lack of publicity rather maybe coordination and investigation issues. The hardest thing of all is that most young people feel invincable, they just don't think anything will happen to them. Unfortunately there is a chance that even if the roomates knew they still may have taken the risk so as to not inconvenience anyone by locking them out. JMO

omsk99 · #23 02-21-2008, 03:21 PM

Just a few articles fro today, although nothing new

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/15831267.html

http://www.verticaljunkies.com/blog/?p=458 (blog from someone who knew Brianna)

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...0445/1016/NEWS (from yesterday, about DNA, sorry if it was posted before)

What a horrible tragedy and a loss

#24 02-21-2008, 03:31 PM

I still can't believe she is dead.
I can't even talk about it.

omsk99 · #25 02-21-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by ruby [*]Here's a thought, perhaps he has an STD (crabs) and that's why he shaves...as possible as the rest of the what ifs. [/*]

Good thinking! Although I still think he is doing it to prevent any of his DNA get on a victim. Just a guess, of course

omsk99 · #26 02-21-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by Cookies [*]I still can't believe she is dead.
I can't even talk about it.

[/*]

Same here, I was out of the country, and came back to this news. I cannot get over it, probably never will.

baywench · #27 02-21-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by omsk99 [*]

Good thinking! Although I still think he is doing it to prevent any of his DNA get on a victim. Just a guess, of course [/*]

Well that certainly isn't working if he is. I think it's just a sick twist for this guy IMO

ruby · #28 02-21-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by omsk99 [*]

Good thinking! Although I still think he is doing it to prevent any of his DNA get on a victim. Just a guess, of course [/*]

Hi

Yah i agree, although he's left dna at every scene???

omsk99 · #29 02-21-2008, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by ruby [*]
Hi

Yah i agree, although he's left dna at every scene??? [/*]

I know! I wonder what kind...

trich · #30 02-21-2008, 04:31 PM

In this day and age I can not believe anyone would not check to make sure their doors and windows are locked.
That is very foolish no matter where you live.

Of course I believe these young ladies were partying so hard they were probably too drunk to even think about locking doors not to mention getting a ride home from a complete stranger.
The girl that did that was very fortunate that was not the rapest.

They need to make it a requirement that everyone take
a course in self protection and creating a safe environment for all students entering their freshman year at colleges.
It should be part of their orientation.

In saying that kids still no matter how smart and intelligent they are do not think "it" can happen to them.
why do some have to learn the hard way?

ruby · #31 02-21-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by trich [*]In this day and age I can not believe anyone would not check to make sure their doors and windows are locked.
That is very foolish no matter where you live.

Of course I believe these young ladies were partying so hard they were probably too drunk to even think about locking doors not to mention getting a ride home from a complete stranger.
The girl that did that was very fortunate that was not the rapest.

They need to make it a requirement that everyone take
a course in self protection and creating a safe environment for all students entering their freshman year at colleges.
It should be part of their orientation.

In saying that kids still no matter how smart and intelligent they are do not think "it" can happen to them.
why do some have to learn the hard way? [/*]

sadly, there is always going to be someone who catches you off guard, comes up behind you. I mean look at Meredith Emerson, a martial arts expert, and that didn't help her. I agree, people need to be smarter about their lives. It can start with being as simple as locking your doors and windows, not walking alone in the dark or forest, not going home with strangers, not meeting strangers online....etc. However, there are still cases like the gal that got abducted at target on a bright crowded day......you just never know and there will never be enough preperation. Sadly for Bri, if this was a random thing, it probably could have been stopped if the windows/doors were locked and they had drapes....

silvercoins · #32 02-21-2008, 04:42 PM

I think that there is going to be a Prayer Vigil on Saturday .. or am I wrong ??

Just a Thought: I think that this Monster could show up to see everyone in
mourning or God Forbid .. find another victim ..

I just Pray that he is found soon .. he has done enough damage already ..
JMO as always ..

RIP Brianna .. You were so beautiful to be taken away from your loved ones too soon ..
Our Sympathies to your Family and Friends ...

ruby · #33 02-21-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by silvercoins [*]I think that there is going to be a Prayer Vigil on Saturday .. or am I wrong ??

Just a Thought: I think that this Monster could show up to see everyone in
mourning or God Forbid .. find another victim ..

I just Pray that he is found soon .. he has done enough damage already ..
JMO as always ..

RIP Brianna .. You were so beautiful to be taken away from your loved ones too soon ..
Our Sympathies to your Family and Friends ...

[/*]

Yes there is, and I read they are giving free bus service that day for it! How nice!

omsk99 · #34 02-21-2008, 04:52 PM

Sorry, if this was posted already:

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp...&nav=menu107_2

Him leaving the underwear is SO puzzling. I do not think it was accidental, how can you "accidentally" drop someone else's underwear at a crime/murder scene?

ruby · #35 02-21-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by omsk99 [*]Sorry, if this was posted already:

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp...&nav=menu107_2

Him leaving the underwear is SO puzzling. I do not think it was accidental, how can you "accidentally" drop someone else's underwear at a crime/murder scene? [/*]

It is puzzling. It could mean so many things...it could have so much significance or none....all we do know is that it's someones dna mixed with his! If it's his wifes/gf's....why is it in the car with him?

omsk99 · #36 02-21-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by ruby [*]

It is puzzling. It could mean so many things...it could have so much significance or none....all we do know is that it's someones dna mixed with his! If it's his wifes/gf's....why is it in the car with him? [/*]

I think he brought it with him to taunt the LE!

ruby · #37 02-21-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by omsk99 [*]

I think he brought it with him to taunt the LE!

[/*]

That is my thinking too....

Anakerie · #38 02-21-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by ruby [*]

It is puzzling. It could mean so many things...it could have so much significance or none....all we do know is that it's someones dna mixed with his! If it's his wifes/gf's....why is it in the car with him? [/*]

Very puzzling, indeed. Worrying too. Do they belong to someone he knows? Or another victim that hasn't come forward for some reason. I can only hope that it isn't another victim like Brianna that hasn't been missed or found yet.

I got distracted from watching things here because of the earthquake east of Reno (My niece lives near Wells.) and because I've been doing some road condition reports for my truck driver friend again. Unfortunately, its supposed to snow in Reno again. It's snowing up in the pass right now..

Maelstrom5 · #39 02-21-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by Brattnt [*]Not sure if this has been posted here yet....It's a good article....I didnt know he had tried to break into the December victims apartment the day before Brianna was taken...

Police said DNA indicates the suspect then tried to break into the December victim’s apartment on Jan. 19, the night before Denison was kidnapped.

“So it seems that Mr. Almighty himself is going to show back up and teach her a lesson,” Kelly said.

Kelly said the suspect likely went into a rage because she disobeyed his order not to report the rape to police. He said the suspect showing up at her house was “insane” because he knew people would be looking for him there.

“So he leaves that apartment, carrying this rage inside because he couldn’t take it out on her, and then goes by and sees Brianna sleeping on a couch,” he said.

Drops of Denison’s blood was found on her pillow in a friend’s home on MacKay Court. A teddy bear she was using remains missing.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...&Ref=AR&Show=0 [/*]

This is a very good article I only differ in one aspect;

"Because the victims in these cases were petite and had long hair, Kelly said it’s likely they were being watched before attacked."

I don't think that is the case. He was looking for a type, but I do not believe he spent much time watching a particular victim. He chose the University because there would be a abundance of potential victims that fit that profile.

His actions have some earmarks of a organized rapist/killer and some of a disorganized one.

Blitz-attacks, which all but the last were, suggest disorganized. Taking his victim away for the point of attack suggest organized. I think he falls into the grouping of a mixed method predator.

omsk99 · #40 02-21-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Maelstrom5 [*]

This is a very good article I only differ in one aspect;

"Because the victims in these cases were petite and had long hair, Kelly said it’s likely they were being watched before attacked."

I don't think that is the case. He was looking for a type, but I do not believe he spent much time watching a particular victim. He chose the University because there would be a abundance of potential victims that fit that profile.

His actions have some earmarks of a organized rapist/killer and some of a disorganized one.

Blitz-attacks, which all but the last were, suggest disorganized. Taking his victim away for the point of attack suggest organized. I think he falls into the grouping of a mixed method predator. [/*]

I agree, I don't think he was watching his victims, but rather than for a type.