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Old 09-21-2007, 03:53 PM
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1 month old girl msg. after woman was found unconcious 9.20.07 St. Thomas Canada

Month-old infant missing in St. Thomas
Last Updated: Friday, September 21, 2007 | 12:09 PM ET
The Canadian Press
Police in St. Thomas, Ont. are continuing a city-wide search for a one-month-old girl who was discovered missing Thursday when police found a woman unconscious in an apartment complex.

An intensive, day-long search in the apartment building and surrounding area failed to locate the child, identified as Abbygail Elizabeth Dice.

London police are also part of the search, but have yet to comment on their role in the investigation.

St. Thomas police are expected to release more details later today.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/sto...ng-infant.html
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:13 PM
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Month-old infant missing in St. Thomas
Last Updated: Friday, September 21, 2007 | 12:09 PM ET
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Police in St. Thomas, Ont. are continuing a city-wide search for a one-month-old girl who was discovered missing Thursday when police found a woman unconscious in an apartment complex.

An intensive, day-long search in the apartment building and surrounding area failed to locate the child, identified as Abbygail Elizabeth Dice.

London police are also part of the search, but have yet to comment on their role in the investigation.

St. Thomas police are expected to release more details later today.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/sto...ng-infant.html
Oh...how sad...I wonder if the woman was like unconscious like in..was she dead...or asleep...or hurt in some way?...
Prayers this Baby is found!
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:24 PM
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I hope they find her soon..... and her mother is ok....
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:35 PM
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Praying the mom is okay and that they find the baby.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:03 PM
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Anxious to hear more details about this. Praying this baby turns up quickly.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:28 PM
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Police in St. Thomas, Ont., are continuing a city-wide search for a one-month-old girl who was discovered missing Thursday when police found a woman unconscious in an apartment complex.

An intensive, day-long search in the apartment building and surrounding area of the southwestern Ontario city failed to locate the child, identified as Abbygail Elizabeth Dice.

London police are also part of the search, but have yet to comment on their role in the investigation.

St. Thomas police are asking for the public's help and for anyone with any information to contact them.

"Anything they can, anything they've seen maybe that might seem suspicious or might seem unnatural to them, or something they've heard, anything at all, we have officers in here taking any information we can and relaying it to, to investigators," said Const. Jason Geddes.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:32 PM
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Story w/video

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Old 09-21-2007, 06:34 PM
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http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...tories&s_name=
http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/Top...ng_baby_070921
http://www.cd989.com/modules/news/ar...p?storyid=9998 (WITH PICTURE)
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:46 PM
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Thanks for the links Kaylynn. What a sweet looking baby girl. Praying she's found safe SOON!
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:59 PM
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Praying Abbygail Elizabeth will be found soon.

I don't understand the Amber Alert criterias. They should be changed, imo.

A baby is missing. Even if she doesn't meet the criteria, why not put her photo out anyway. What harm will it do if people to keep an eye out??

I don't get it.
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:53 AM
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Praying Abbygail Elizabeth will be found soon.

I don't understand the Amber Alert criterias. They should be changed, imo.

A baby is missing. Even if she doesn't meet the criteria, why not put her photo out anyway. What harm will it do if people to keep an eye out??

I don't get it.
I totally agree. I find it strange only that one website had her photo out.
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:37 AM
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http://www.stthomastimesjournal.com/News/340351.html
Police are asking for the public’s help after a one-month old baby girl went missing from an apartment complex Thursday in the city’s north end.


St. Thomas police say they were called to 88 Confederation Dr. around noon and found an unconscious woman in a second-floor apartment. The woman was taken to St. Thomas-Elgin General Hospital for medical attention. Her status was not known at press time.
“While we were on scene dealing with this call, it was learned that this woman was the mother of a one-month old baby girl who has not been located or accounted for,” said Const. Jason Geddes.
The baby has been identified as Abbygail Elizabeth Dice.
Anyone with information on the missing girl is asked to call St. Thomas police at 519-631-1224 or Crime Stoppers at 519-631-TIPS (8477).
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:40 PM
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Police are asking for the public’s help after a one-month old baby girl went missing from an apartment complex Thursday in the city’s north end.


St. Thomas police say they were called to 88 Confederation Dr. around noon and found an unconscious woman in a second-floor apartment. The woman was taken to St. Thomas-Elgin General Hospital for medical attention. Her status was not known at press time.
“While we were on scene dealing with this call, it was learned that this woman was the mother of a one-month old baby girl who has not been located or accounted for,” said Const. Jason Geddes.
The baby has been identified as Abbygail Elizabeth Dice.
Anyone with information on the missing girl is asked to call St. Thomas police at 519-631-1224 or Crime Stoppers at 519-631-TIPS (8477).

Still no word on what happened to the mom? Why was she unconsious? I hope she'll be able to give the police information.

Continued prayers for Abbygail.
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:06 PM
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I don't get it. Who called the police to the woman's apartment?

This reminds me of the story told of a certain mother who killed her infant and then claimed someone had knocked her out and then stolen the baby.

I don't mean to sound cynical, I guess it is just due to the lack of information. I mean the police were called to the apartment of this woman and found her unconscious. Someone found her knocked out and called the police?

I guess if someone broke into the apartment for the purpose of taking the baby and knocked the mother out they would forget to close the door behind them making it possible for someone passing by to maybe see the knocked out woman in the apartment.

I hope they find this little girl alive and well. An amber alert would certainly help at the very least spread the word that a female infant is missing.

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Old 09-22-2007, 06:30 PM
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Don't understand why they won't tell the condition of the mom?

So hope she is okay and the baby is found safe!!
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:43 PM
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Don't understand why they won't tell the condition of the mom?

So hope she is okay and the baby is found safe!!
Could be a sexual assault and they're not releasing that for privacy reasons for the mom, imo.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:23 AM
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http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Loc...16923-sun.html

Apparently the mother was in a Diabetic Coma.
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Old 09-23-2007, 04:53 AM
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Okay the article says they don't believe an abuction happened....but who took the baby??? Something doesn't sound right.
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:29 AM
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Okay the article says they don't believe an abuction happened....but who took the baby??? Something doesn't sound right.
It says there is no evidence of an abduction, which is why an amber alert was not issued.
STILL though, there aren't very many other things it could be.
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:31 AM
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I don't get it. Who called the police to the woman's apartment?

A woman who asked not to be identified said she believes the hospitalized woman’s first name is Sarah. She believes the woman’s mother was the one who contacted police about the missing baby.
http://www.stthomastimesjournal.com/News/340290.html
So I guess it was the babys grandmother who called it in.
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:34 AM
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More information on the mother and the case

ST. THOMAS -- Sarah Dice, whose missing infant has triggered a three-day search, was awake, but horribly confused when she was found in her apartment last week.

Dice, who's been a diabetic since childhood, was found moaning in her bed, unsure of where she was and unable to recognize her own mother, said Connie Fortin, who along with Dice's mother, found Dice on Thursday.

"She didn't recognize any of us. She didn't know what happened to (her infant Abbygail).

"She didn't know where she was," Fortin said yesterday.

Two days earlier, Dice seemed OK as she wheeled one-month-old Abbygail back to the Confederation Drive apartment where Fortin is superintendent.

"She seemed fine," Fortin said.

But Tuesday was also the first of two days Dice's mother, Gail, who lives in London, left phone messages for her daughter that weren't returned,

So, on Thursday, a worried Gail Dice drove to St. Thomas and knocked on the door of her daughter's apartment. When no one replied, she turned to Fortin, who for five years has looked after tenants as if they were family.

The two women went to the back of the three-storey apartment and saw Sarah Dice's car, then to her second-storey apartment. When knocks produced no reply, Fortin retrieved her keys and unlocked the door.

Wanting to be respectful of her tenant's privacy, Fortin pushed open the door a few centimetres, calling her name.

That's when they heard her.

"We heard moaning coming from the bedroom. We went in and she was sitting up in bed and very confused . . . Her mother asked about Abbygail, but she didn't know what had happened," Fortin said.

The superintendent quickly phoned 911 and moments later, firefighters arrived from a fire hall just around the corner.

Paramedics soon came and took Sarah Dice to St. Thomas Elgin General Hospital.

She remained there yesterday in the intensive care unit as a single St. Thomas officer led seven or so volunteers with St. John Ambulance as they looked for Abbygail in low-lying brush along Highbury Avenue south of Ron McNeil Line and in Dalewood Conservation Area.

"We wouldn't be out here if we didn't think we could make a difference," said Bev Sugden, who leads the St. John Ambulance search and rescue team.

Police have said there's no evidence Abbygail was abducted, but added nothing yesterday about the investigation or the condition of Sarah Dice.

Highbury Avenue and the conservation area -- where the search switched to yesterday -- are several kilometres from Sarah Dice's apartment.

The apartment was guarded yesterday by a single officer.


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A woman who asked not to be identified said she believes the hospitalized woman’s first name is Sarah. She believes the woman’s mother was the one who contacted police about the missing baby.
http://www.stthomastimesjournal.com/News/340290.html
So I guess it was the babys grandmother who called it in.

According to the article posted by Brooke ....the superintendant named connie found the mother.

http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Loc...16923-sun.html
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According to the article posted by Brooke ....the superintendant named connie found the mother.

http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Loc...16923-sun.html
According to the two articles I just posted it was the mother of Sarah and the grandmother of Abbygail. I wonder why there are conflicting stories.
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According to the two articles I just posted it was the mother of Sarah and the grandmother of Abbygail. I wonder why there are conflicting stories.
Actually we're both right. The grandmother drove there and when she could'nt get an answer she asked for the superintendant who evidently has keys to the apartment. They entered together and found her.
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Actually we're both right. The grandmother drove there and when she could'nt get an answer she asked for the superintendant who evidently has keys to the apartment. They entered together and found her.
Got it. Thanks for the clarification!
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:33 PM
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No news this afternoon, other than a clothing description.
A St. Thomas baby missing since Thursday may be wearing a pink and orange striped jumper, police said yesterday.
http://therecord.metrolandwest.com/N...article/245510
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:25 PM
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I live in St. Thomas and I know a lot more about this case than the news is reporting. The reason there is little information about the mother, and no Amber Alert, is because it's quite obvious that the mother killed her.
The mother was NOT unconscious when the super intendant let her mother into her apartment. She was just "confused." When her mother asked her where her baby was she said "What baby??"
The apartment door was locked, so it's assumed the "kidnapper" came in through the balcony. The trouble with that is that there was blood in the apartment, in the hallway, and on the stairs. Also, a lot of people with police scanners heard last night that the mother told them she put the baby in the woods. That's also not be confirmed yet.
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[quote]Originally posted by HellcatTrish
I live in St. Thomas and I know a lot more about this case than the news is reporting. The reason there is little information about the mother, and no Amber Alert, is because it's quite obvious that the mother killed her.
The mother was NOT unconscious when the super intendant let her mother into her apartment. She was just "confused." When her mother asked her where her baby was she said "What baby??"
The apartment door was locked, so it's assumed the "kidnapper" came in through the balcony. The trouble with that is that there was blood in the apartment, in the hallway, and on the stairs. Also, a lot of people with police scanners heard last night that the mother told them she put the baby in the woods. That's also not be confirmed yet.
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I had a feeling when I read no sign of abduction this might be the case.
I do hope this does not turn out to be the case.

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It's pretty bad.
This is a small town so everyone is pretty shaken up. They have a police officer guarding the mother's apartment, probably in case of a lynch mob or something.
There's no reason what so ever to think the child was abducted, but there's a lot of evidence suggesting the mother did it.
I heard there will be a statement tonight on the news. If I catch it I'll update you all.
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It's pretty bad.
This is a small town so everyone is pretty shaken up. They have a police officer guarding the mother's apartment, probably in case of a lynch mob or something.
There's no reason what so ever to think the child was abducted, but there's a lot of evidence suggesting the mother did it.
I heard there will be a statement tonight on the news. If I catch it I'll update you all.
Thanks for the info Trish. I must admit the thought did cross my mind that she may have killed Abbygail. I just didn't want to go there though. Even though we hear of mothers killing their babies regularly, it is still something I find really hard to contemplate.

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It's pretty bad.
This is a small town so everyone is pretty shaken up. They have a police officer guarding the mother's apartment, probably in case of a lynch mob or something.
There's no reason what so ever to think the child was abducted, but there's a lot of evidence suggesting the mother did it.
I heard there will be a statement tonight on the news. If I catch it I'll update you all.
Thanks for the update.



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It's pretty bad.
This is a small town so everyone is pretty shaken up. They have a police officer guarding the mother's apartment, probably in case of a lynch mob or something.
There's no reason what so ever to think the child was abducted, but there's a lot of evidence suggesting the mother did it.
I heard there will be a statement tonight on the news. If I catch it I'll update you all.

For Abbyqail...

Tks HellcatTrish. I so didn't want to think the mother had anything to do with it.
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for the precious baby.....
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Mondays Article

http://www.stthomastimesjournal.com/News/340642.html
A baby for which St. Thomas police have been searching for more than four day, may be wearing a pink and orange-striped jumper, authorities said.
The exhaustive search, which had police roaming through backyards, ravines and even looking through dumpsters in the city’s northeast turned up no results over the weekend.

Abbygail Elizabeth Dice, one month old and described as having a lot of hair, was reported missing just before noon Thursday.
Police spent the rest of the day searching for the baby. At one point, London police and the OPP helped search the Confederation Drive area where the mother of the child lives.
Police said they concentrated Friday’s search around 88 Confederation Dr. and Waterworks Park. Photos of Abbygail Dice were released Friday.
“St. Thomas police are asking for the public’s help with any information regarding Abbygail Dice,” Const. Jason Geddes said.
Anyone with any information is asked to call St. Thomas police at 519-631-1364 or Crime Stoppers at 519-631-8477.
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It's pretty bad.
This is a small town so everyone is pretty shaken up. They have a police officer guarding the mother's apartment, probably in case of a lynch mob or something.
There's no reason what so ever to think the child was abducted, but there's a lot of evidence suggesting the mother did it.
I heard there will be a statement tonight on the news. If I catch it I'll update you all.
A few of my buddies are London Cops and we were thinking the same thing. JMO
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A few of my buddies are London Cops and we were thinking the same thing. JMO
Do you know if the statement was released? The one HellcatTrish refers to?
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Do you know if the statement was released? The one HellcatTrish refers to?
Nothing official just yet.

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This article says she is 1 year old. Typo??

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This article says she is 1 year old. Typo??

I believe she is 1 month old. Still praying she is found safe.
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