Kara Kopetsky,17,Belton, MO 05/04/07[?? poss.link to Kelsey Smith]

[StillHoping]

Kara's Myspace

Web

Possible link to Kelsey Smith???

[StillHoping]

If somebody already posted this, sorry.
I did a search and couldn't find one for her. And people have asked who she is on the Kelsey Smith threads.

[jtazzy]

Thank you StillHoping for posting this. I just sent her site to Kansas City news and asked them to do a follow up on her, that she is still missing. Told them of how her and Kelsey looked alike and went missing a month apart.

Please let's bring Kara home to help her parents, she needs this just as much.
Jeanne

What a beautiful young girl. I think LE definitely needs to look at the Kelsey Smith case. Strange that 2 young girls would go missing within a month of each other.

Sure hope this young lady is found safe.

Kelsey RIP

[LoLo321]

Good work. I hope somebody looks into this.

[jtazzy]

We just have to help Kara's parents keep this out in the public eye. Someone some where knows what happened and knows where she is...

For Kara

[StillHoping]

I'm really hoping that since Kelsey's case is getting so much attention, we can use that to the advantage of getting Kara's face and story out there. It's important to note here that Kara had gotten a Protective Order against her boyfriend very recent to her disappearance. But from what I understand, he has passed a lie detector test and has been cooperative with LE.

However, there is a possible sighting of Kara with a POI who looks a bit like the POI in Kelsey's case. Kara went missing from within 20 miles of where Kelsey was found.

Thanks everyone so much for helping get her story out. I hope NG and/or Greta will put her on their show.

[Carol]

Fox News just showed the mug shot of Edwin Hall, the man arrested for Kesley's murder. The resembalence to the picture of the man on Kara's website is INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please check it out.

[Kip]

I'd sure like to know where Edwin Hall was the day Kara went missing.

The sighting of Kara and a guy was at a fast food restaurant. Three of the workers were sure it was her. The police did the sketch of the guy from the workers' descriptions. It seems odd though that no mention was made of the surveillance video from the restaurant.

[dulcinea]

It seems like now they would go back to the restaurant with a photo lineup and see if the employees pick out Edwin Hall. I'm just not very convinced this was Kara they saw. If it was I don't think this has anything to do with Kelsey and her murderer because Kelsey probably died immediately. The sighting of Kara was like three weeks after she went missing.

[Carol]

Kara's parents are talking on Fox right now. 12:24pm CDT

Edwin Hall does bear some resemblances to the sketch that was drawn up. I was also thinking they need to go show those employees his photo in a lineup and see if they pick him out.

I put this comparison photo together so you can see them side by side.

Comparison Photo

I hope they find her.

[jtazzy]

I heard that LE is (I think of the fox channel not sure) is going to use their resources they still have from Kelsey and look for Kara... Please let this be true...

[StillHoping]

Originally posted by jtazzy
I heard that LE is (I think of the fox channel not sure) is going to use their resources they still have from Kelsey and look for Kara... Please let this be true...

I PRAY PRAY PRAY that happens.

[dulcinea]

I heard an officer say (on a FOX interview) that they have no reason to believe Kelsey and Kara's cases are linked but that they are interested in talking to Hall. IF he is connected to both girls, I wonder if he will try to use that as a bargaining chip. What I mean is, will he say "I'll tell you about Kara if you do "X" for me."

[Luzianne]

Local law enforcement has said repeatedly that they have no reason to believe that Kelsey's and Kara's cases are related in any way.

The cable networks seem to be picking this up and running with it, but every time I hear it on local (Kansas City) news, they say there is no connection.

[txsage]

Luzianne, heh, cause CTV posters are e-mailing them!

Originally posted by Luzianne
Local law enforcement has said repeatedly that they have no reason to believe that Kelsey's and Kara's cases are related in any way.

The cable networks seem to be picking this up and running with it, but every time I hear it on local (Kansas City) news, they say there is no connection.

How the heck do they know there is no connection unless they investigate? I think there is a high probability there is a connection here. The difference is that Kara's abduction was not caught on tape.

I sure hope there will be some new information to come forward on the Kara case. Praying that her family will find her.

[jtazzy]

LE is saying that they don't think that there is any connection, BUT they are looking at all aspects... They are still going to use what is avaiable to them to look.

They can't turn their backs on Kara.. I'm sorry but there is too much alike on the POI (the one arrested for Kelsey) not to look at Kara.

It is too close to where she lived at not too.. They also need to look in the areas him and his wife lived at (they moved around alot) to see if there are others.

He has done this before..my gut tells me that.

We have to bring Kara home...

To the ones of you that are experience (sp) in this please tell me what I can do to help. I have already emailed Kansas news (and I'm from Florida) joined Kara's myspace and emailed them..

I am willing to do what ever!!!
Thank you
Jeanne

Kara deserves to be found, Her family is in mourning and they need some help to find her. Let's energize to find Kara!

[StillHoping]

Originally posted by DaPlane
I was very happy to see Kara's parents on Greta's show tonight.

I missed that. I had a farewell party to attend.
Can anyone give a recap?
Her parents must be devastated right now.

[StillHoping]

I don't mean to imply that I feel 100% sure that Edwin Hall was involved with Kara's disappearance, I just think it's way too early, with too many similarities to rule it out yet.

[Kip]

Edwin "Jack" Hall stayed home during the day taking care of his son while his wife went to work. He had a night job. I wonder if the child goes to pre-school. That would have Hall free during the morning hours when Kara went missing. If the son didn't go to pre-school, he could have been playing at a friend's house. Or visiting his grandparents. Don't Jack's parents live a few miles from where Kelsey's body was found?

[jtazzy]

StillHoping, that would be great if that poster from WS could get them to search for Kara.

I actually go a message back from Kara's myspace thanking me for acknowledeging her and for us not forgetting her and for keeping her name out there for them...

[jtazzy]

Just show me what to do and I will sure help to do it...

[obi]

Some questions:
Anyone know whether or not that they found any video of her at the school or anywhere else?
Have the parents gone thru everything to narrow down what she had with her?
Has anything been found that she had with her. (On the road, in the woods, etc.)?
Did she drive?
If so, did they find her car?
Did LE attempt triangulating cell phone pings (if possible)?
Is the ex BF being investigated more than just being given a polygraph exam?
What was the reason for the RO? IOWs what is the real story?
Has she ever gone off before?
Has there been any other sightings besides the one?
TIA

[StillHoping]

Looking for volunteers to help with a command post dedicated to
getting the word out about Kara's disappearance. There will be a
meeting for any volunteers who would like to help. The meeting will be located at the Price Chopper in Belton.
Tuesday at 5:00 pm.
(address: 1833 E North Ave. Belton MO 64012)

The Kara Kopetsky Fund has been established at:
The Bank of Belton.
204 Main Street, Belton, MO 64012 phone number: (816) 331-4888

Support Rally for the family of Kara Kopetsky
Prayer and Support
Passing out of Flyers
Donation Drop
Saturday, June 9th 9:00am-12:00 noon
Sunday, June 10th 1:00pm-4:00pm
Location: Grandview Assembly of God Gymnasium
12400 Grandview Road
Grandview, MO 64030
(Gym is located behind the church on the west side).

I also wanted to let everyone know that a few people have posted blogs and message boards

at myfoxkc.com for Kara and we need help keep her name out there til she is home.

Help us to keep the pressure on the media and police.

Blog:

http://community.myfoxkc.com/boards/topic.aspx?topic_id=7040&page_no=1#post5563]Here[/url]

[StillHoping]

Originally posted by obi
Some questions:
Anyone know whether or not that they found any video of her at the school or anywhere else?
Have the parents gone thru everything to narrow down what she had with her?
Has anything been found that she had with her. (On the road, in the woods, etc.)?
Did she drive?
If so, did they find her car?
Did LE attempt triangulating cell phone pings (if possible)?
Is the ex BF being investigated more than just being given a polygraph exam?
What was the reason for the RO? IOWs what is the real story?
Has she ever gone off before?
Has there been any other sightings besides the one?
TIA

I have asked some of Kara's friends on Myspace to join us to help answer some of these questions and get people involved. Hopefully, they will join us.

I believe it was reported that her cell phone was left in her locker at school.

[StillHoping]

Comment to one of Kara's friends blogs on myspace:

you are exactly right b/c i have a friend in Kansas that works in the DA's office and actually there are probably atleast 3 more girls that he has been stalking in the area but all of the details are about to unfold unfortunately. i would like to hope that kara just ran away but it doesn't look good now that he was finally caught after one of his STALKS went bad on tape at target. thank god for this guy's neighbor for CARING and making the call to capture the suspect and thank god for target. he just got desperate and his sick fantasies got out of control, and that also makes me think that there are many more victims. all that i can say is ted bundy and that is how he got caught.

Posted by on Friday, June 08, 2007 at 10:18 AM

Will have to wait and see what details come out shortly.

The two POIs look way alike.If they aren't the same person,then they are twins or brothers.Looking at the pictures,I truly believe they are the same person.

I have seen way too many of these types of cases to believe in coincidences.

The POI in the sketch looks almost exactly like well-known creep, Edwin "Jack" Hall. This sketch was done before Kelsey went missing & video of said creep was released so doesn't it stand to reason that he is at the very least involved in Kara's disappearance.

Kara & Kelsey, both around 17 ( the age of Hall's wife when they met) are similar in build & coloring (again the wife is a brunette as well)....I'm going to go out on a limb & predict that the girls that have reported stalking incidents in recent weeks are young brunettes too.


I think LE (in most cases) are experienced enough & knowlegable enough to make all these connections. I have complete faith that they are looking into everything & everyone connected to the creep. Maybe they don't want to scare off potential accomplices by blabbing everything to the media.

I read on another thread that LE searched both the Hall's home & the home of his brother-in-law. I have a feeling those searches have little to do with Kelsey & everything to do with Kara &/or others.

I will be hoping the searches lead to Kara's safe return. If not, I pray the searches result in mounds of evidence against anyone involved in this nightmare!

[StillHoping]

Originally posted by obi
Some questions:
Anyone know whether or not that they found any video of her at the school or anywhere else?
Have the parents gone thru everything to narrow down what she had with her?
Has anything been found that she had with her. (On the road, in the woods, etc.)?
Did she drive?
If so, did they find her car?
Did LE attempt triangulating cell phone pings (if possible)?
Is the ex BF being investigated more than just being given a polygraph exam?
What was the reason for the RO? IOWs what is the real story?
Has she ever gone off before?
Has there been any other sightings besides the one?
TIA

I have asked some of these questions to a friend of Kara's and he gave me some answers. However, I promised him that I would not post any of our conversations w/out his consent. So I am just waiting on that. Until then, I will only say that he personally believes her disappearance has to do with Kara's boyfriend, although he doesn't rule out Edwin Hall.

[StillHoping]

Originally posted by Justice4Some
I have seen way too many of these types of cases to believe in coincidences.

The POI in the sketch looks almost exactly like well-known creep, Edwin "Jack" Hall. This sketch was done before Kelsey went missing & video of said creep was released so doesn't it stand to reason that he is at the very least involved in Kara's disappearance.

Kara & Kelsey, both around 17 ( the age of Hall's wife when they met) are similar in build & coloring (again the wife is a brunette as well)....I'm going to go out on a limb & predict that the girls that have reported stalking incidents in recent weeks are young brunettes too.


I think LE (in most cases) are experienced enough & knowlegable enough to make all these connections. I have complete faith that they are looking into everything & everyone connected to the creep. Maybe they don't want to scare off potential accomplices by blabbing everything to the media.

I read on another thread that LE searched both the Hall's home & the home of his brother-in-law. I have a feeling those searches have little to do with Kelsey & everything to do with Kara &/or others.

I will be hoping the searches lead to Kara's safe return. If not, I pray the searches result in mounds of evidence against anyone involved in this nightmare!

I feel the same way, but I fluctuate between thinking Hall was involved and that he BF was involved. There are some similarities to the Carrie Culberson case. Hopefully I will have more info later.

Anyone in the Belton, MO area, please join the search and rallies. This girl needs to be brought home.

[StillHoping]

Kara disappeared from Belton, MO on May 4, 2007. She was last seen leaving Belton High School. Kara does not have a car, so she would have either been on foot or someone was there to pick her up.



Kara is 17 years old and would have just finished her junior year in high school. She is 5' 5", with brown hair and hazel eyes. As you can tell from the pictures, she is known to change her hair color. She no longer has braces as seen in some of the pictures.





Friday, May 4, 2007

The morning started out just like any other morning. Kara decided to walk to school just a few blocks away instead of having her mom drive her. Later that morning, she called her mom to bring her a book for one of her classes that she had fogotten at home. Kara also asked her mom to wash her work clothes since she had to work that afternoon after school. Mom took the book up to school and left it in the office for Kara to pick up later. At some point after that Kara got the book from the office.



What happened next remains a mystery.



Kara did come home from school that day and did not show up for work that afternoon. Her mom and stepdad called her repeatedly and called around looking for her before reporting her missing that evening.



It has been confirmed that the last phone call on her cell phone was about 10:30 that morning. Since then, the police have determined that either the cell phone has been shut off or the battery has run down. In addition to that, there has been no activity on her bank account and nothing is missing from her house. All of her clothes, belongings, and IPOD are still in her room.



The police and family have talked to her friends and no one has seen or had contact with Kara since she disappeared.



Thursday, May 17, 2007

Three persons reported seeing Kara at a gas station/Burger King in Louisburg, KS along with a young male. Unfortuately the video survelllance equipment was not in working order and this sighting could not be confirmed.



May 17th to present

The police department has followed up on leads as they have come in, but none have led them to find Kara.

I wonder if it would hurt to question him about Bianca Piper's disappearance since Devlin has been ruled out.

[StillHoping]

Is it true that Kara had gotten a Restraining Order against her boyfriend (Kylr?) prior to going missing? If so, what is the story behind that? Do you think that he's involved? What does your gut tell you about it?

1. Yes, he kiddnapped her a couple of days before she wnet missing, I would know, becasue I was one of the people that saved her after she had to jump out of a moving truck to escape him.
2.Yes, I think he is involved. Even if it wasn't directly him that did this, he WAS with her the day she went missing, and he has tried to hide that. Why hide it if there is nothing that could get you in trouble? If anything, he could at least say were he dropped her off at, right?

Do you personally feel that Edwin Hall could have been involved?

4.Edwin being ivolved, to me, is possiblity over probability. He might have done it, but most likly not. I don't think he did.

Do you think Kara ran away? I don't. But you know her and your oppinion is valuable.

5. She didn't run away. She would have used her phone to call somedody for a place to stay, used her bank account for money, or at least signed in to her myspace somehow, jsut to see if anybody cared she went missing. She HAS ran away before, and she answered every call that she received.... And for some reason, this time, she doesn't....

[StillHoping]

Link to story about Kylr

[StillHoping]

Statistics show that one in three teenagers have experienced violence in a dating relationship. In dating violence, one partner tries to maintain power and control over the other through some kind of abuse. Dating violence crosses all economic, racial and social lines; most victims are young women who are also at higher risk for serious injury.

Women ages 16 to 24 experience the highest per capita rates of intimate violence -- nearly 20 per 1000 women. (Bureau of Justice Special Report: Intimate Partner Violence, May 2001)

Young women need a dating safety plan. (Intimate violent partner - so that includes homosexual dating). Teen dating violence often is hidden because teenagers typically:
Are inexperienced with dating relationships.
Want independence from parents.
Have romanticized views of love.
Are pressured by peers to have dating relationships.

Teen dating violence is influenced by how teenagers look at themselves and others. Young men may believe:
They have the right to "control" their female partners in any way necessary.
“Masculinity” is physical aggressiveness
They "possess" their partner.
They should and can demand intimacy.
They may lose respect if they are attentive and supportive toward their girlfriends.

Young women may believe:
They are responsible for solving problems in their relationships
Their boyfriend's jealousy, possessiveness and even physical abuse, is "romantic."
Abuse is "normal" because their friends are also being abused.
They think they can "cure" the abusive boyfriend
There is no one to ask for help.

Common clues that indicate a teenager may be experiencing dating violence:
Physical signs of injury
Truancy, and or dropping out of school
Failing grades
Changes in mood or personality
Use of drugs/alcohol -- where there was no prior use
Emotional outburst
Isolation from friends and family



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[StillHoping]

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