Carrie Culberson [msg. 1996]

in my hometown, authorities are currently digging up the concrete floor of a garage on a tip that carrie's remains lie beneath. this comes on the day that a memorial was to be dedicated outside the blanchester police dept. in her honor that would remain there until her body was located.

our local news just interviewed carrie's mom who is at the site and anxiously waiting. that poor woman has been needed verification for eight years.

Police Could Be Searching For Carrie Culberson's Body

Police are digging at a Brown County farm, possibly looking for murdered Blanchester woman Carrie Culberson's body.

Although police won't confirm they are looking for Culberson specifically, there have been rumors that Jarrod Messer, who owns the property at 21962 Fayetteville-Blanchester Road, is friends with the family of the man in jail for killing her in 1996.

$10,000 to the memorial, as well as change how village police enforce domestic violence laws.
http://www.wcpo.com/news/2004/local/04/30/body.html

[Kip]

I hope for the family's sake that they do find her.

For those who don't know this case, here's a summary
carrie culberson

[5boxersmom]

My local news just said nothing yet. The reporter said they might stop at 6:00 p.m. And start back up tomorrow.

I just wish they would set up lights and keep going.

I just read this on the Cincinnati Enquirer website. She went missing the same time I moved to Florida from Milford, a town just a stones throw away from where Carrie lived.

I wonder what has made them suddenly search there?

Prayers & Support for Carrie's Family! I know how hard this is. Kudo's to the Police for doing what is needed to be done.
((((Hugs))) to Carrie's Mother as She stands by and waits.

MissingKaren

Police Search For Body

Authorities will resume their search Saturday for a body that might be buried under the concrete floor of a storage shed near Blanchester.

Speculation has centered on the possibility that the body being sought is that of a Blanchester woman, 22-year-old Carrie Culberson, who disappeared in 1996.

Authorities had removed about two-thirds of the floor in the 30-foot-by-40-foot structure when they stopped work for the night.

Although the woman's body was never found, her former boyfriend, Vincent Doan, was convicted in 1997 on charges of kidnapping and aggravated murder and is serving a life prison sentence.
http://www.onnnews.com/story.php?record=30072

Please visit Carrie's website:
http://www.findcarrieculberson.com

Did I read this right--a cadavor dog picked up her scent?

[ELENDA100]

Originally posted by oldshirley
Did I read this right--a cadavor dog picked up her scent?

That is what it said. I always say trust the dogs nose. I hope they find her.

For Carrie

As sad as it would be, I do hope they find her.

will be overseeing the property while the search is abandoned for the night.

years ago this case did another search on private property, but in between announcing it and doing it, a fair amount of time elapsed, enough to remove a body.

i do believe it was that direct action, or lack of, that had ALOT to do will that town's chief of police resigning.

lord, please give carrie's mom closure, she deserves it.

[camracrazy]

Search continuing today

I really hope they find her.

[starling]

***Digging to resume Sunday***

Perry Township - After a second day of digging for the remains of 22-year-old Carrie Culberson in rural Brown County, authorities called off the search about 4:30 p.m. today without finding anything. The effort is expected to resume at 9 a.m. Sunday.

A sheriff's official took the family to the site at a pole barn, which is about 150 yards from Fayetteville-Blanchester Road, late this afternoon just before the search was suspended. Debbie Culberson said the site looked like a large mud hole, adding that nothing was found. Culberson said she was disappointed but still hopeful.

"I've waited a lot of these out, and so I can continue. We were hoping today would be the day, but maybe tomorrow," Culberson said.

A police cadaver dog had its strongest hit yet at about 7 a.m. today in the rear of the pole barn, said Dwayne Wenninger, Brown County Sheriff.

Officials obtained a search warrant Wednesday, then started digging Thursday night. Work continued Friday and resumed today.

"You can't be 100 percent positive but with the dog hitting a few times in the same area, we feel confident," Wenninger said.

About 20 relatives and friends, including Carrie's parents Debbie Culberson and Roger Culberson, gathered to watch the work.

This is at least the seventh major search for Carrie's body since she disappeared 7 ½ years ago.

"We are hoping today is going to be the day we can put Carrie to rest," Mrs. Culberson said. "It looks like they have got a lot accomplished today."

Wenninger said the crew plans to dig as much as 12 feet below the pole barn. Most of the cement floor and gravel below it has been removed. Depending on whether anything is found in the dirt, work could continue for days, Wenninger said.
http://www.enquirer.com/midday/05/05...2web_Late.html

Carrie's Website:
http://www.findcarrieculberson.com

[5boxersmom]

The Brown County Sheriff said on the local news here tonight that the cadaver dog has hit on the same spot in the barn four different times.Sounds like something is there.

It really does sound like this is the spot. Thank God for dogs.
I hope she's found soon. This HAS to be the longest weekend for this mom. I pray questions are answered very soon.

Here is the latest. We, Karen Jo's family, have followed this story so close!

For Carrie

http://www.wcpo.com/news/2004/local/...rson_noon.html

MissingKaren

Originally posted by missingkaren2
Here is the latest. We, Karen Jo's family, have followed this story so close!

For Carrie

http://www.wcpo.com/news/2004/local/...rson_noon.html

MissingKaren

Any news on this today?
Did they resume the dig or is it still raining?
Couldn't find any new info so thought someone close to this knew something.

[5boxersmom]

Originally posted by zzziiinnnggg


Any news on this today?
Did they resume the dig or is it still raining?
Couldn't find any new info so thought someone close to this knew something.

Yes, they are digging again.The rain has stopped.They were suppose to bring in the cadaver dog around 2:00.I haven't heard anything since.


Edited to add.

Just heard it was a different cadaver dog then they had this weekend and it is hitting on the same spot.

They are digging farther down.

Originally posted by 5boxersmom



Yes, they are digging again.The rain has stopped.They were suppose to bring in the cadaver dog around 2:00.I haven't heard anything since.


Edited to add.

Just heard it was a different cadaver dog then they had this weekend and it is hitting on the same spot.

They are digging farther down.

Thanks for the update.

[camracrazy]

Link to the latest news

There is a picture of Vincent Doan near the bottom of that page. I just want to rip that smirk right off his face!!

Originally posted by camracrazy
Link to the latest news

There is a picture of Vincent Doan near the bottom of that page. I just want to rip that smirk right off his face!!

The dog that was used Monday is part of a team that was assigned to the World Trade Center after the 2001 terrorist attacks.

"The dog went into the building and the dog picked up a residual scent... It kept going over to the target area. When the dog went into that area, that dog kept digging," said an investigator.

The first dog was brought in last week. That dog indicated a scent three out of the particular four times it was brought in the corner.

"We need to prepare to go a lot deeper...at least 22 feet deep," said police, referring to the corner that is now in question.
http://www.wcpo.com/news/2004/local/...culberson.html

If you want a touch of class, check out Vincent Doan's support site. LOL

www.geocities.com/freevincentdoan

The general public should see this.

On a happier note, the 2nd cadavar dog picked up a scent today in the same corner as the first dog. Police officials are going to dig down possibly 22 feet tomorrow in that area. Everyone please keep your fingers crossed.

www.findcarrieculberson.com

If you want a touch of class, check out Vincent Doan's support site. LOL

I just tossed my dinner

Made me ill! They do not mention the Fact that Vince's Sister of what his sister in law stated about her husband and Vince now do they?

Another reason to take down our site!

MissingKaren

Well I thought that the general public should see this website. They love bashing us. What's sad is that we have the facts and we dont talk ugly about Vincent Doan. The world is starting to have a clearer view of how these folks work.

Originally posted by findcarrie
Well I thought that the general public should see this website. They love bashing us. What's sad is that we have the facts and we dont talk ugly about Vincent Doan. The world is starting to have a clearer view of how these folks work.

WEll I went to Vince's website and yes I spoke ugly to them about him and the fact that they were supporting a murderer. If he was such a man that committed murder, he should be a man/boy and step up admit what he did, accept punishment and show remorse. I hope they finally find Carrie so she can be at peace. Period.

If anybody disparages Vincent Doan on that website, they will just not let it post. I had to start moderating Carrie's website guestbook because it had gotten so far out of control that the same person would post like 40 entries at a time calling her every name in the book and posting lie after lie about her family. We get many people who are angry at Vince but I just keep our messages of the nice comments. I will not stoop down to their level. THey want people to be upset and end up cussing them out. If we continue to post what is true and what was found in a court of law, we have accomplished way more than this group of people. They feel as if they are helping Vincent, but in retrospect, they are hurting him more than ever.

We still dont know if Carrie was found today. I've learned to have patience with this because over excitement can really work with your nerves.

They are really taking forever on this:


The search for Carrie Culberson's body resumed for the fifth day Tuesday.

Crews started work around 9 a.m., and spent most of the day shoring up the edges of the hole with wood to make sure there are no collapses.

Investigators said they need to dig 22 feet below the barn off Fayetteville-Blanchester Road where the remains may be buried.

Carrie Culberson's mother, Debbie, was again at the dig site. Several people stopped by throughout the day to give Culberson flowers and moral support.

Investigators continue to search for the body of Carrie Culberson -- eight years after the Blancherster woman's disappearance in 1996.

Police have searched lakes and other properties in the Brown County area, but never found her body.

In the meantime, the Ohio Department of Corrections confirmed Tuesday that Jarrod Messer, the man who owns the barn, has been moved to the Warren County Correctional Facility, but would not say why. Messer is in jail on an unrelated charge.

9News was first on the scene at the dig site last week, and will continue coverage on the Culberson investigation.
http://www.wcpo.com/news/2004/local/...culberson.html

Search for Carrie near end?


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Mom says clues mount about missing daughter

By Janice Morse
The Cincinnati Enquirer


PERRY TOWNSHIP - During past searches, evidence trails stopped cold.

But now, nearly eight years after 22-year-old Carrie Culberson disappeared from Blanchester, a Clinton County village northeast of Cincinnati, clues keep mounting. To her parents, that suggests investigators are closer than ever to finding Culberson's remains.

"They just keep getting new information that keeps adding up," Debbie Culberson, Carrie's mother, said Tuesday.

Both she and Carrie's father, Roger, said they feel more optimistic about the latest search, which began last week, than any of the dozen that preceded it.

Investigators continued to dig at an excavation site Tuesday under a pole barn on Fayetteville-Blanchester Road in Brown County.

And today, the search will enter its eighth day when police expect to start work with a human-bones expert and add a third cadaver-sniffing dog to the team, said Brown County Sheriff's Chief Deputy John Dunn.

Forensic expert coming

Dr. Beth Murray, a nationally known forensic anthropologist from the College of Mount St. Joseph, is coming to consult about excavation techniques, not to examine any bones, Dunn said.

No human remains have been found at the site and officials have not discussed what led to the barn.

Roger Culberson said investigators revealed their reasons for summoning Murray and the third dog. But they asked him, his ex-wife and Carrie's sister, Christina Knox, not to disclose that information.

Acting on a tip they won't discuss, investigators began searching beneath the barn April 28, a day earlier than previously reported. Carrie's family and news reporters learned about the search two days later.

So far, investigators have excavated a hole about eight feet by eight feet, and 15 feet deep, Dunn said. They plan to dig down 22 feet - the depth that a specific piece of heavy equipment is capable of reaching.

Investigators have learned when the structure was built and when its cement floor was poured, Dunn said. He wouldn't specify the timing, but said it would have been after Culberson's disappearance.

Remains never found

Culberson's ex-boyfriend, Vincent Doan, was convicted in 1997 of killing her even though her body was never found. He is serving a life sentence in prison. Culberson was declared dead in 1998.

Since then, Carrie's mother has become active in domestic-violence intervention and prevention programs.

And she has continued her quest for her daughter's remains.

Although Debbie Culberson dreads the thought of dealing with the aftermath of finding her daughter's body, she said it's worse not knowing what happened to her. "Over the years, we've heard rumor after rumor," she said. The gruesome descriptions of the possibilities created vivid images that haunt her, she said.

Standing at the end of the country lane leading to the barn with its floor dug up, Debbie Culberson said, "I'm praying that this is where Carrie is."

A third cadavar dog & Dr. Murray, a forensic anthropologist were on site today (5-5-04). The third dog reacted to a different area than the last two dogs. Investigators believe that they need to go down 22 more feet before they find anything. The search will continue Thursday morning.


For Carrie and her family

The wait must be totally unbearable.

Investigators believe that they need to go down 22 more feet before they find anything. The search will continue Thursday morning.

God, I feel sorry for her family and friends. This must be agonizing.

[starling]

Latest update - a geologist has also been brought in to test dirt.

http://www.channelcincinnati.com/new...27/detail.html

If they find some forensic traces of her in that soil, will they continue to dig or will they assume her body is there and quit? And how in the world did this guy bury her so deep? Did he have access to construction equipment? Was this a construction site at the time she went missing or was it a waste site?
I'd really like to know if it's taking this much equipment and this much time to get that deep, how did he get her that deep?

Search for Carrie Enters 8th Day:

By: JUSTIN STORY, Staff Writer
Submitted: 5/6/2004


FAYETTEVILLE, Ohio -- As investigators continue to search for the body of Clarissa 'Carrie' Culberson, Carrie's mother Debra Culberson remains resolute that this latest effort will be successful.

'I have no reason not to be optimistic,' said Culberson shortly after authorities concluded another day of work at the site of a barn on Fayetteville-Blanchester Road about a mile from the Clinton County border.

Several family members wore buttons with Carrie's picture on them, and a sign was placed across from the entrance to the property where investigators are conducting their search.

The sign reads, 'Justice for Carrie -- Disappeared but not forgotten.'

Carrie, 22, disappeared in 1996 and was declared dead two years later.

Her boyfriend, Vincent Doan, was convicted in 1997 of her murder and is currently serving a life sentence.

Doan's brother, Tracey Baker, is serving an eight-year sentence for obstruction of justice related to the case.

A third cadaver dog brought to the site Wednesday picked up a scent, but dug in many areas of the barn. Two other dogs dug in the exact same spot.

Brown County Chief Deputy John Dunn said the newest cadaver dog had less experience, but added that the sheriff's department wanted the handler to observe and comment on the search.

'He came in to look at our site and assess what the dogs were doing,' said Dunn.

In addition to a cadaver dog, another expert, forensic anthropologist Dr. Beth Murray, visited the site during the morning to also observe the searching process.

Authorities at the scene said Murray encouraged investigators to continue as they had been doing and did not suggest altering their methods.

Murray, from the College of Mount St. Joseph, has identified human remains and determined cause of death in several previous criminal cases in the area.

As the family waits for another breakthrough, Debra Culberson receives daily support from passersby, whether friends or strangers.

A man driving a pickup truck gave her a single red rose and a note of encouragement Wednesday.

'Hoping you can finally put your daughter to rest in peace with God and that this will be your greatest Mother's Day ever,' the note reads. Culberson said she did not know the person who gave her the gifts.

'It's nice to know there are people I don't even know who are still thinking of us,' she said.

Tuesday, she received a dozen red roses and one yellow rose.

Dunn, meanwhile, said a fourth cadaver dog would be brought to the scene today, primarily to reconfirm that a scent other dogs have detected is traceable to a specific spot under the disturbed ground beneath the barn's concrete floor.

Earlier discussion of tearing down a wall of the barn in order to accommodate heavier equipment will not be acted upon, according to Dunn, who said he 'doesn't see a problem' with a larger machine fitting into the building.

In another development, Jarrod Messer, the owner of the property housing the barn, has been transferred from prison in Montgomery County to Warren County, Ohio.

Messer is serving a two-year sentence for charges unrelated to this case.

'We're interviewing everybody associated with the case,' said Dunn. 'We've put him closer to us in case investigators need him for something.'

I read that they are digging down to 22' because that is the depth that a "certain piece of equipment" is able to reach.

I wonder if they got a tip as to the property owner renting or having access to this particular piece of equipment in the days after Carrie was murdered?

I'll look for a link.

Maybe there was a dumpsite there or something at the time she went missing or maybe he did rent some equipment. You'd think that would have come out before now, though.
One thing's for sure, I doubt he dug that far with just a shovel. But if there was a construction site there or if there was some sort of waste site there, he could have put her there and then over time someone else filled in the hole.
I don't know, I was just curious as to why they're going down that far.

Anything new yet?