Tea Partying Militia Leader Arrested for Rape, Possessing a Grenade Launcher

dannieg · #1 01-26-2010, 10:22 PM

http://www.irehr.org/index.php?optio...news&Itemid=23

Brat2002 · #2 01-26-2010, 10:50 PM

The only connection to tea parties was a post he made and mentioned it, along with a bunch of other organizations, in response to a question. How does that warrant using Tea partying in the headline?

Hg_Rising · #3 01-26-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brat2002

The only connection to tea parties was a post he made and mentioned it, along with a bunch of other organizations, in response to a question. How does that warrant using Tea partying in the headline?

I think it has to do with this

http://www.irehr.org/index.php?optio...news&Itemid=23

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"Oath Keepers founder, Stewart Rhodes, previously praised Dyer in speeches."

And I don't think it's a secret that Oath Keepers has connections with the Tea Party movement.

IaNsSyAlNuE · #4 01-26-2010, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brat2002

The only connection to tea parties was a post he made and mentioned it, along with a bunch of other organizations, in response to a question. How does that warrant using Tea partying in the headline?

What does it mean that this democratic senator is accused with child rape and is rated high on the NRA's list after shooting an intruder ? He was, BTW opposed to civilians having guns.

R.C. Soles, North Carolina Pol Who Shot Intruder, Won't Run Again

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1..._n_408121.html

http://www.votesmart.org/issue_ratin...ry&category=37

In Videotaped Interview, Soles Accuser Outlines Allegations of Sexual Assaults

http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclu...e.html?id=5777

So does this mean that all democratic senators are closet gun lovers accused of child rape? Of course not so why the broad brush?? Oh! HEADLINES and accusations are so much better than the truth.

Hg_Rising · #5 01-26-2010, 11:20 PM

No, it means a Democratic Senator did something wrong.

Just like this person that has affiliations with a new movement is accused of rape and had a grenade launcher.

I'm not necessarily against it (the owning a grenade launcher, against the raping of a child though), but it's not the normal owning a gun and shooting an intruder.

Hg_Rising · #6 01-26-2010, 11:35 PM

I will say I'm against him having a grenade launcher under current laws either by theft or receiving stolen property which he had to have knowledge of at the time he gained possession of it.

IaNsSyAlNuE · #7 01-26-2010, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hg_Rising

No, it means a Democratic Senator did something wrong.

Just like this person that has affiliations with a new movement is accused of rape and had a grenade launcher.

I'm not necessarily against it (the owning a grenade launcher, against the raping of a child though), but it's not the normal owning a gun and shooting an intruder.

The democratic senator was highly vocal and against private gun ownership and somehow ended up shooting someone with his personal weapon-- and was indicted Thursday on a felony charge of assault with a deadly weapon inflicting serious bodily injury because of such shooting-- so it was a bit more than 'shooting and intruder' by the way it sounds.

State Sen. R.C. Soles indicted on assault charge

http://www.starnewsonline.com/articl...CLES/100109828

The connection in the op is tenuous at best IMO.

dannieg · #8 01-26-2010, 11:40 PM

I know what, let's start a thread about the Dem Senator and discuss it there.

THIS thread is for discussion of the Tea Party/Militia leader arrested for rape and possessing a grenade launcher.

Thank you!

juliekan · #9 01-27-2010, 12:03 AM

the OP's article states this

In this video, he is shown speaking at a Broken Arrow, Oklahoma Tea Party event promoting the Oath Keepers

Dyer has played a bridge role between the Tea Parties and the Oath Keepers

I see where Oath Keeper founder Stewart Rhodes knew Dyer, but never see the link to a Tea Party. Who knows him/ associated with him on the tea party side? TIA

syringa · #10 01-27-2010, 12:18 AM

This dude's association to the tea party's is much less than Obama's association to WeatherGround terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.

He is a nobody in the movement and is here only to grab some bizarre sort of sensational headline. jmo

RedPatriot · #11 01-27-2010, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dannieg

I know what, let's start a thread about the Dem Senator and discuss it there.

THIS thread is for discussion of the Tea Party/Militia leader arrested for rape and possessing a grenade launcher.

Thank you!

Unbelievable that there is not a consensus that rape is wrong.

Can't wait for the pseudo 2nd Amend defense of grenade launchers.

Sesame Seed · #12 01-27-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dannieg

http://www.irehr.org/index.php?optio...news&Itemid=23

OMG is all I can say. I hope the group is under surveillance.

Carol25 · #13 01-27-2010, 05:49 PM

Any one of the parties (Democratic, Republican or Tea) could have had this person want a membership in their group.

Until we see "Sanity tests given before allowed to come into Public Meetings or Allowed membership", that is a risk all will take.

#14 01-27-2010, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannieg

I know what, let's start a thread about the Dem Senator and discuss it there.

THIS thread is for discussion of the Tea Party/Militia leader arrested for rape and possessing a grenade launcher.

Thank you!

It appears that the leader of the Oathkeepers is now trying to distance himself from Dyer and has even wiped the website. But C&L has a screen shot. LOL

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiw...t-oath-keepers

I remember reading that the Oathkeepers were one of the sponsors of a convention, but I can't remember if it was CPAC or the teaparty convention. I'll look around.

I hope they're able to find the other two stolen grenade launchers through this guy or the good friend that "gave" it to him.

syringa · #15 01-27-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Carol25

Any one of the parties (Democratic, Republican or Tea) could have had this person want a membership in their group.

Until we see "Sanity tests given before allowed to come into Public Meetings or Allowed membership", that is a risk all will take.

No kidding. Every party has people who claim membership in it that strays form the "norm". How many democrats here would like it if they were only associated with Lyndon LaRouche who claims to be a democrat?

#16 01-27-2010, 06:11 PM

OK I found what I was looking for. Oathkeepers are co-sponsors of CPAC.

http://www.cpac.org/sponsors.html

#17 01-27-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by syringa

No kidding. Every party has people who claim membership in it that strays form the "norm". How many democrats here would like it if they were only associated with Lyndon LaRouche who claims to be a democrat?

LaRouche huh? LOL I don't know of one Dem that ever supported LaRouche or the hogwash he spews. Much like I'm quite sure the most Repubs don't support Rev. Moon and his hogwash.

syringa · #18 01-27-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Susan43

LaRouche huh? LOL I don't know of one Dem that ever supported LaRouche or the hogwash he spews. Much like I'm quite sure the most Repubs don't support Rev. Moon and his hogwash.

That's the point I was making!

I have no idea why those who support a tea party movement - not even a cohesive party at this time - are expected to claim, defend, support or associate with anyone who claims to be a tea partier.

#19 01-27-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by syringa

That's the point I was making!

I have no idea why those who support a tea party movement - not even a cohesive party at this time - are expected to claim, defend, support or associate with anyone who claims to be a tea partier.

Yeah, well, what's your point? There must be something I'm missing here. This is news. A probable member of a militia owning a grenade launcher? And belonging to a group (who now denies him) who is a co-sponsor to the biggest conservative convention? That's news whether you like it or not.

There's no need to defend him or anything surrounding the issue. Just posting facts about something doesn't necessarily need someone to defend it.

#20 01-27-2010, 09:01 PM

I was sitting here mulling this over and it dawned on me that I didn't know a thing about grenade launchers. For some reason I thought it was a big gun of some type.

M203 grenade launcher
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M203_grenade_launcher

As you can see, it's pretty small and could probably be carried under a coat. That's even scarier.

justaguy · #21 01-28-2010, 05:35 AM

i think any group can have in it ...stealth members that go farther than that group's agenda.

to me, the test is..when that person does something wrong, does the group repudiate it or not.

i was not familiar with the oathkeepers..i listened to his ten minutes at broken arrow...and he seemed like a bit of a fanatic. or way overly intense.

Fall Leaf · #22 01-28-2010, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Delosanto

GRENADE LAUNCHERS???

I really wonder if, in their zeal to protect the Constitution, some people are willing to use those devices to kill fellow Americans. This Tea Party movement is about the most disgusting thing in American history since the KKK, IMO.

I agree with you. Their members are as disgusting, if not more so. mo