[11/5 - GUILTY] 10/26 to ........

[walton]

Originally Posted by texski

i am in love with the texas bluesman and i dont even know who or what he/she is.
go there now, click on some songs for raymond jessup. great songs, and he has the links for us to play them and gloat. my favorite was in the jailhouse now. but there are more.

I really love bluesman as well texski. I enjoyed all the songs. I've got the movie dvd O Brother where art thou. Like the music and enjoyed the movie.

Wonder what Raymond is singing?

[Roux]

Originally Posted by walton

I really love bluesman as well texski. I enjoyed all the songs. I've got the movie dvd O Brother where art thou. Like the music and enjoyed the movie.

Wonder what Raymond is singing?

In honor of Johnny Mercer, I suggest Accentuate the Positive cuz with the sentence Tony Alamo received, Raymond should be greatful for 10 years.

[texski]

i think we are all getting a little giddy with happiness after the guilty verdict. so, we are entitled.

[walton]

http://myeldorado.net/

Randy wrote an awesome editorial.

[walton]

Originally Posted by Roux

In honor of Johnny Mercer, I suggest Accentuate the Positive cuz with the sentence Tony Alamo received, Raymond should be greatful for 10 years.

There was a special on tv about Johnny Mercer today. I thought of you Roux.

Sakes alive there are still a few of us with dang good taste.

[Roux]

Originally Posted by walton

There was a special on tv about Johnny Mercer today. I thought of you Roux.

Sakes alive there are still a few of us with dang good taste.

I recently watched a PBS program about him, that's why it was fresh in my mind. He was genius, and I love Hoagy Carmichael too.

[Casspian]

Think they'll get away with this? (I didn't see this posted, so hope I am not duplicating)

KINGMAN - The attorneys for Warren Steed Jeffs is asking a Mohave County Superior Court judge to set another court hearing to argue whether the prosecutor's witnesses are experts in religious practices.

Jeffs' attorney, Mike Piccarreta, is asking Judge Steven Conn to set a hearing to argue whether Carolyn Jessop, Richard Holm and Rebecca Musser are experts on the religious practices of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Jeffs is considered a prophet by the polygamist church in Colorado City, Ariz., and Hildale, Utah.

http://www.mohavedailynews.com/artic...cal/local6.txt

[juliekan]

Originally Posted by Casspian

Think they'll get away with this? (I didn't see this posted, so hope I am not duplicating)



http://www.mohavedailynews.com/artic...cal/local6.txt

http://fldslegal.blogspot.com/2009/1...re-expert.html

Here's one attorney's take on the situation:

"However, his argument that they aren't "experts" falls flat. Arizona's rule is similar to Texas, you must show..."(see more at site)

"The bottom line is that all three listed individuals meet the requirements under Rule 702 to be experts. The judge may not let all of them testify (could be viewed as cumulative evidence.) The judge may place some limits on what they can say (some evidence could be viewed as too prejudicial or maybe not relevant.) However, there will be at least one FLDS "expert" who testifies at the Warren Jeffs trial."

Let's hope Ron is correct. I mean, we are dealing with Judge Conn here

[Roux]

Originally Posted by juliekan

http://fldslegal.blogspot.com/2009/1...re-expert.html

Here's one attorney's take on the situation:

"However, his argument that they aren't "experts" falls flat. Arizona's rule is similar to Texas, you must show..."(see more at site)

"The bottom line is that all three listed individuals meet the requirements under Rule 702 to be experts. The judge may not let all of them testify (could be viewed as cumulative evidence.) The judge may place some limits on what they can say (some evidence could be viewed as too prejudicial or maybe not relevant.) However, there will be at least one FLDS "expert" who testifies at the Warren Jeffs trial."

Let's hope Ron is correct. I mean, we are dealing with Judge Conn here

I'd like to see an "expert" testify --- an expert on cults.

[walton]

Julie I'd like to see that as well.

Who is the expert that Ron is talking about? How does he know?

[juliekan]

Originally Posted by walton

Julie I'd like to see that as well.

Who is the expert that Ron is talking about? How does he know?

I think Ron's point is that at least one of the three he mentioned will end up being allowed to testify. Here's his response to some comments at his site:

Ron in Houston said...

When you can't call any of your own experts then you get limited to trying to attack the other side's experts.

That's clearly what is going on here.

(I guess another throw it and see if it sticks FLDS legal ploy? juliekan's opinion)

and

Yes, it's clear these folks(Holms, Musser, Jessop, I assume he means) have axes to grind. However, that does not disqualify them. Any bogotry or lying would be used for cross examination. However, you can't just say "liar, liar, pants on fire." Before you can cross examine someone about alleged lies, you must first show that they are testifying untruthfully. Somehow, I don't think Warren's attorneys will be able to do that.

[walton]

It will be very interesting. Even if the FLDS were to put a current member on the stand under oath they very well couldn't deny some of the things being said.

Check this out: http://166.70.44.68/blogs/plurallife/

Wall v. UEP Trust, Trust v. Steed et al, Steed v. Wall



This will keep everyone busy for a very long time.

[walton]

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...ms-to-air.html

On the second anniversary of FLDS leader Warren Jeffs being sentenced to prison, the Documentary Channel is airing a pair of programs about members of the Fundamentalist LDS Church.

(Neither is new, but neither has been seen in wide release.)

"Damned to Heaven" (Friday, 8 and 10 p.m.) is a 2007 documentary that's full of interviews with former members of the church, who have a variety of heartbreaking things to say.

"Banished: The Lost Boys of Polygamy" — directed by former KSL reporter Stacey Butler — follows at 7:45 p.m. and 10:45 p.m. It is, as you might expect, a look at the lives of the teenage boys and young men who were tossed out of the FLDS Church.

http://sling.com/

http://www.sling.com/network/189/The...entary-Channel)

Just type the name of the documentary you wish to watch.

Polygamy is rarely ever about consenting adults.