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Old 11-19-2009, 08:00 AM
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It's a darn good thing they didn't win the election if Palin and McCain's group hated each other as much as she is claiming. If they were trying to shut her up on the campaign trail, I can only imagine what they would have done to her if she'd become the VP.
Palin was loose with the facts, loved the limelight, and imo, was confused as to celebrity and running for office. She is ill informed or uninformed, and makes excuses for herself. Always someone else's fault or others are picking on her. She is in this for the cash, not to "help" anyone, imo, I suspect the only magazine she reads is People. She is cashing in on celebrity and that is what she's all about. The latest whine is the photoused by Newsweek, which she posed for, for runner's magazine, she's reliving her beauty queen days, lol and wants them to last forever. How anyone could trust or rely on her words is beyond reason.
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:02 AM
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Sarah Palin has been the National news since 2008. We are now going into 2010. That's all she does is lip service. She talks about how she want to help her country, help the woman in this country and she goes on an on. I would like to know when she plans on doing something of substance.
One does not have to be a President or any part of the political arena to do this.
We have numerous "celebrities" who are/have done more and continue to do more for our country and other countries. These Celebrities do these things without being in the spot light.
What has Sarah Palin done. She quit her Governor job for the State of Alaska, she has written a book to set the record straight on how she was mistreated when she was running for V.P. and she has been on many news and morning shows promoting her book.
She is all about selling a book she wrote, making money and no more, no less.
Sarah is as phony as a three dollar bill. Of course, that's my opinion.
What exactly has she done to help this country? I agree about her phoniness, but for some apparently that is her charm.
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:44 AM
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This is an interesting read:

http://www.freep.com/article/2009111...n-Grand-Rapids

Still dragging that baby into the public mass gatherings, exposing him to who knows what? Down's patients have delicate immune systems, and are subject to many illnesses. The vaccines we have don't cover all the upper respiratory viruses out there!
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Old 11-19-2009, 10:28 AM
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"In book full of complaints, Palin writes: "I don't like to hear people complain".


http://mediamatters.org/research/200911150006

"In her forthcoming memoir, Going Rogue: An American Life, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin writes, "I don't like to hear people complain," before stating one "complaint for the record" about the national media. However, Palin's professed distaste for "complaints" is undercut by the numerous complaints that fill the pages of Going Rogue -- complaints directed at specific media personalities, national and local media outlets, and the McCain campaign."
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Old 11-19-2009, 10:46 AM
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There sure has been a lot of energy, searching and researching, parsing, fact checking and cirtiquing of every word Sarah has written or said lately. Even pages of posts from people who appear to not have a very high opinion of her.

I sure wish this much effort was put into examining Obama's record and what he has been doing. He is in position to affect all of us much more than Sarah right now. I think all the bashing of Sarah is an effort to make her look so bad that that it might make Obama look ok - the only way to make Obama look good is to drag someone else down. jmo.

(btw - it isn't working with me)
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:07 AM
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The governor is absolutly correct on this issue and I totally support her opinions. She is sticking with the good guys who support American and its citizens, in my opinion. Israel is loyal, faithful and our only friend in the Middle East. We voted Jimmy Carter out of office years ago but he is still trying to meddle in American Politics. I am sure her opinion will play in Peoria, Miami and Vegas. The Governor is Evangelical which does not translate to fundementalist. The base looks like its the everyday, ordinary, garden variety, hard working, trying to improve their lives and the lives of their children. American Citizens who want the best for this great Country.

RE: [The base looks like its the everyday, ordinary, garden variety, hard working, trying to improve their lives and the lives of their children. American Citizens who want the best for this great Country.]


Ah yes, THE BASE. All these folks want to do is to force their rigid, fundamentalist beliefs, values and convictions on the American People.

They believe that those of us who do not agree with their faith based social convictions to be GODLESS.

You need look no further than Elizabeth Dole to see what I mean.

http://www.indyweek.com/gyrobase/Con...d%3A267990

And then there are the "everyday American Citizens" who believe that the earth was formed in 6000 years. These good folks want to teach this in school to our children.

http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/07...000-years-old/


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Old 11-19-2009, 11:15 AM
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You will find no bigger supporter of Israel than me.

However, I find Palin's comments incindiary--and while they might get her some of Huckabee's religious right support, it really hinders the cause of Middle East peace and poses some real problems for both Israeli and US security.



http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/18/...l-settlements/
Many of the people of Israel are FOR the settlements. As a big supporter of Israel are you disagreeing with their policies?
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:40 AM
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Good grief, indeed. Way to go Palin, suggest a little more expansion - what a plan for peace that woman brings. [/sarcasm]
I was stunned that she would say such a thing.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:41 AM
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Many of the people of Israel are FOR the settlements. As a big supporter of Israel are you disagreeing with their policies?
I am against the expansion of settlements, are as most Israelis.

I think there is little doubt about my passionate support of Israel.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:50 AM
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Those guys in the Middle East have been fighting each other for thousands of years and none of them have been able to make peace with each other and I doubt they are starting now. Israel came into o existence sixty years ago and is the Good Guy and our only friend, in my opinion of course. AMerican Presidents have been fooling around with the "peace in our time" thing for years and clearly, the last thing any of them want, except for Israel, is peace. Many of them do want to continue beating up on women as they continue to keep them third class citizens. I find it appalling that American women don't find the treatment of most Middle East women incidiary.
What makes you think that anyone doesn't find the treatment of any person appalling?

And what on earth does that have to do with expanding Israeli settlements?

What you term "those guys" are my people. And, in any case, even if they were not, I find the "they have been fighting for thousands of years" to be an acceptable solution.

What Palin is endorsing--in complete reveral of US policy for DECADES--is to expand the settlements. Which is not only in direct contradiction of experts in the region, but would put Israel, and the US, even more unsafe.

Palin's comments are unwise and appealing to radicals, which does a huge disservice to Israel.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:53 AM
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Is she just plain old dumb??!! or Evil??!!

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Old 11-19-2009, 12:01 PM
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snipped The settlers had been buying land for years. .
The EXPANSION of settlements will bring about increased violence AGAINST Israel. It makes zero sense for any American politician to encourage things that are not only against American policy, but is against the interest of the state of Israel and its citizens.

This whole school of thought of someone like Huckabee, and, now Palin, is rooted in fundamentalist Christian beliefs. And not any sensible Middle Eastern policy or long-term view of what will make Israelis safer.
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Old 11-19-2009, 12:04 PM
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What you term "those guys" are my people. And, in any case, even if they were not, I find the "they have been fighting for thousands of years" to be an acceptable solution.

snipped.

Quoting myself to correct this--it is NOT an acceptable solution.

"Just let them fight it out" is never a solution, nor can I find a moral stance in that.
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Old 11-19-2009, 12:09 PM
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...e-1813190.html

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Palestinian leaders angrily accused Hillary Clinton of undercutting Middle East peace prospects yesterday after she endorsed Israel's plans to continue expanding West Bank settlements.
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Old 11-19-2009, 12:09 PM
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Palin believes that Jewish settlements should be expanded because "Israel is going to grow."


http://features.csmonitor.com/global...-barack-obama/
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Old 11-19-2009, 12:13 PM
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Nixon, Johnson, Ford, Carter and Clinton policy was that annexation of land gained in 1967 is illegal.

Reagan thought it might not be illegal, but opposed expansion.

GWHB said settlements were illegal.

GWB policy was that natural growth of EXISTING settlements were fine, but no expansion.
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Old 11-19-2009, 12:17 PM
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Nixon, Johnson, Ford, Carter and Clinton policy was that annexation of land gained in 1967 is illegal.

Reagan thought it might not be illegal, but opposed expansion.

GWHB said settlements were illegal.

GWB policy was that natural growth of EXISTING settlements were fine, but no expansion.
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