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Bolding mine..........With all due respect, what are you talking about? Are you talking about seeing them in the same old photos? Gosh, I have not seen any new photos of her with the bodyguard, just ones from months past.......are there new ones out there?
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This is just a personal opinion, I'm afraid. Guess it is okay as long as it identified clearly as such and isn't presented as fact. For what it is worth, I totally disagree with her opinion since there is nothing to back it up.
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Not to worry....you certainly haven't aggravated me. Now don't take that as a challenge, please. LOL I love a good discussion with differing opinions but do like valid arguments.
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I don't even mind arguing if that silly attack/retreat game isn't being played. If someone doesn't like what I have to say, depending upon who it is, I generally will take it as a compliment. 
Coming here, one should be prepared to back up any and all statements made as fact. It's one thing to THINK something. Quite another to KNOW it as fact. If someone gets insulting I have been known to answer in kind. Not my finest quality. 
Too bad Kate's not a spider or a Praying Mantis... she could bite Jon's head off and eat it. Then again, the way he's been acting, maybe she already did!  Sorry. I don't have a link.
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I don't even mind arguing if that silly attack/retreat game isn't being played. If someone doesn't like what I have to say, depending upon who it is, I generally will take it as a compliment.
Coming here, one should be prepared to back up any and all statements made as fact. It's one thing to THINK something. Quite another to KNOW it as fact. If someone gets insulting I have been known to answer in kind. Not my finest quality.
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YIKES!! What a thought! Don't think I'll have a snack right now. LOL
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YIKES!! What a thought! Don't think I'll have a snack right now. LOL
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Personally, I think it's a horrible thing to publicly suggest about somebody without some evidence or anything to support your "feeling" other than just having a "feeling" about it.
IMO.
Daniel Green replies: Exactly. Just a terrible thing to do and says more about the person saying it than the the participants.
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So are you calling the guy a liar?
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Post 217 by Daniel Green:
Originally Posted by angiemomof4
Personally, I think it's a horrible thing to publicly suggest about somebody without some evidence or anything to support your "feeling" other than just having a "feeling" about it.
IMO.
Daniel Green replies: Exactly. Just a terrible thing to do and says more about the person saying it than the the participants.
Post 218 by Daniel Green:
Originally Posted by Justice4all
So are you calling the guy a liar?
Daniel Green replies: The guy totally made it up, obviously.
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I'm not accusing the dj of lying. I'm just saying that his word doesn't add up to evidence in my book. He may be lying, he may be telling the truth, he may have misinterpreted what he really did see. We don't know. That's the point: we. don't. know. at this point....
FWIW, I heard rumors a few years back that word was going around the Gosselin's local area that Jon was cheating on her left and right. I never took any of those rumors seriously UNTIL the photos started coming out.
So for now, I will give Kate the benefit of the doubt UNTIL some kind of concrete proof shows up like pictures, text messages or something. That's only fair, imo.
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I'm not accusing the dj of lying. I'm just saying that his word doesn't add up to evidence in my book. He may be lying, he may be telling the truth, he may have misinterpreted what he really did see. We don't know. That's the point: we. don't. know. at this point....
FWIW, I heard rumors a few years back that word was going around the Gosselin's local area that Jon was cheating on her left and right. I never took any of those rumors seriously UNTIL the photos started coming out.
So for now, I will give Kate the benefit of the doubt UNTIL some kind of concrete proof shows up like pictures, text messages or something. That's only fair, imo.
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I understand that and it wasn't my point. My beef wasn't with you. Daniel Green seems to think it is horrible to accuse Kate of whatever we may think she's up to without proof; pathetic even. However, it is perfectly okay for her to accuse the dj of lying. All I'm saying is that's a double standard, the pot calling the kettle black. Either it's not okay or it is. She needs to choose. IMO.
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And CBS admitting they paid Jon for a couple of shows - totally in violation of his contract with TLC.
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The latest stop on his quest for inner peace was a yoga studio at a Los Angeles hotel Nov. 5. As exclusive photos at Usmagazine.com show, the 32-year-old reality star -- in shorts and a tattoo-revealing tank top -- tried out basic poses, stretches and breathing and meditation exercises.
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In his affidavit Sabin also says that Jon refused to cooperate with TLC’s filming schedule and that on the day the network decided to change the show, Jon’s lawyer demanded release from the exclusivity provision of the contract but still wanted to be paid.
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 Like it wasn't at all apparent that Jon did it because he got cut from the show.
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Maybe you all should go back and look at the discussion. I was the one that used the word pathetic and it had nothing to do with whether or not the DJ was telling the truth. What I was referring to were statements from one poster about Kate being seen kissing her bodyguard when there was nothing to back up that statement.....no proof at all. My comment was :
"Wonderful! Facts seem to be the forgotten element in all this. Much easier and more fun to practice innuendo, speculation and rumor. The only way to justify the Kate bashing. Pathetic IMO."
By the way, when the afore-mentioned poster couldn't find any proof for her rumor, she even suggested that a reason might have been that the DJ might have been caught in a lie.
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Link to the actual pleading filed by TLC
http://www.radaronline.com/sites/def...nSchemessm.pdf
Loot at #4, about Jon going out to bars with various women.
Oh, and the Gosselins were represented by their lawyer AND agent for their contract--which was ammended 4 times. So much for Jon lying about how they had no lawyer to negotiate.
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Well, goodness to betsy, Jon is in a world of hurt, given that pleading.
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Did Jon go back to LA yesterday....wasn't that Nov. 5? I thought he took two of the tups to the movies that day? I'm confused.
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I thought he came back yesterday and went to movies--but not sure.
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Think you must be right. All this coast to coast flying makes me tired.
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I thought he wanted to go to Hawaii to visit family. I guess he can do both. Wonder how long he will be away?
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TLC has filed a preliminary injunction against "Jon & Kate plus 8" star Jon Gosselin in their breach of contract lawsuit against the father of eight. RadarOnline.com reports Jon is required to appear Dec. 14 in a Maryland courtroom. He will undoubtedly be questioned under oath about breach of contract, exclusivity and confidentiality clauses, his outside income and more. And it already sounds like a reality show.
The judge has already given TLC permission to depose Jon’s girlfriend Hailey Glassman. Oh, goodie. More couples counseling.
What do you think? Is the jig up? Will Jon Gosselin's celebrity career be over soon?
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Why can't he ever just tell the truth when he is in front of the Paps?
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Several of TLC’s long-time advertisers complained to the network about Jon Gosselin’s “erratic, widely publicized behavior,” which led the network to change Gosselin’s role in the Jon & Kate Plus 8 TV series. According to court documents obtained by RadarOnline.com, advertiser complaints and Jon’s continuing breach of his contract caused the network to decide to change the show to Kate Plus 8. The affidavit of Edward Sabin, executive vice president and chief operating officer of TLC, which contains new and damaging charges against Jon Gosselin and his representatives.
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I'd never thought about advertisers complaining about Jon's behavior--but that makes perfect sense.
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And CBS admitting they paid Jon for a couple of shows - totally in violation of his contract with TLC.
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Why can't he ever just tell the truth when he is in front of the Paps?
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But look at the whoppers he's told just in the last few weeks.
He only took out 22K.
They didn't have an atty when negotiating contract with TLC.
And those are such silly lies, because he has to know they will be proven to be lies.
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I wonder if TLC can call CBS to task for hiring him.
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I don't think so--that is their priority to hire whomever.
Jon in the one in trouble for getting paid to be on the CBS-owned The Insider and ET.
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But look at the whoppers he's told just in the last few weeks.
He only took out 22K.
They didn't have an atty when negotiating contract with TLC.
And those are such silly lies, because he has to know they will be proven to be lies.
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Guess I was thinking more about his impromptu meetings in the parking lots and by the fences. You're right about the big whoppers being silly and not at all smart.
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I don't think so--that is their priority to hire whomever.
Jon in the one in trouble for getting paid to be on the CBS-owned The Insider and ET.
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Guess the yoga pictures were from Friday--so he must have gone back to California right away.
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Oh...does CBS own The Insider and ET? Wasn't aware of that.
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If he has any common sense, he would settle with TLC immediately and give them what they want. He's on a one way street to bankruptcy right now.....
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Maybe you all should go back and look at the discussion. I was the one that used the word pathetic and it had nothing to do with whether or not the DJ was telling the truth. What I was referring to were statements from one poster about Kate being seen kissing her bodyguard when there was nothing to back up that statement.....no proof at all. My comment was :
"Wonderful! Facts seem to be the forgotten element in all this. Much easier and more fun to practice innuendo, speculation and rumor. The only way to justify the Kate bashing. Pathetic IMO."
By the way, when the afore-mentioned poster couldn't find any proof for her rumor, she even suggested that a reason might have been that the DJ might have been caught in a lie.
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Bolding mine.
Thanks, but I was referring to post #219 where Daniel Green says:
"For real. Pathetic.
The bodyguard and his wife and children are celebrating Thanksgiving with Kate and the children.
How nasty to continue to post lies (kissing) and some report from some radio dj that he saw Kate and this man holding hands."
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Bolding mine.
Thanks, but I was referring to post #219 where Daniel Green says:
"For real. Pathetic.
The bodyguard and his wife and children are celebrating Thanksgiving with Kate and the children.
How nasty to continue to post lies (kissing) and some report from some radio dj that he saw Kate and this man holding hands."
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Then you must have noticed that DG was simply agreeing with my previous use of the word "pathetic". So, if you don't like the word, blame me.
Didn't you notice that the kissing part could not be verified by anything that the dj said? For a POSTER to present it as a fact was certainly not telling the truth and could well be considered as spreading rumors at the very least. Wouldn't you agree? That is what the discussion was all about.
As you can probably tell, this is one of my pet peeves....i.e. presenting something as fact that is only opinion since it cannot be backed up. Using MOO or JMO after making an emphatic statement does not lessen it's potential impact. To me, the intent is only to bad-mouth, insult, defame the person it is directed at and hope it sticks. Doesn't matter whether it be Kate or Jon....in this case it was Kate.
OK....getting off my soapbox.
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Then you must have noticed that DG was simply agreeing with my previous use of the word "pathetic". So, if you don't like the word, blame me.
Didn't you notice that the kissing part could not be verified by anything that the dj said? For a POSTER to present it as a fact was certainly not telling the truth and could well be considered as spreading rumors at the very least. Wouldn't you agree? That is what the discussion was all about.
As you can probably tell, this is one of my pet peeves....i.e. presenting something as fact that is only opinion since it cannot be backed up. Using MOO or JMO after making an emphatic statement does not lessen it's potential impact. To me, the intent is only to bad-mouth, insult, defame the person it is directed at and hope it sticks. Doesn't matter whether it be Kate or Jon....in this case it was Kate.
OK....getting off my soapbox.
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Yes, I can tell it's a pet peeve. I agree, which is why I felt compelled to respond to Daniel Green. She stated the dj was obviously making it up. She has no proof of that, yet stated it as a fact. Isn't that an example of your pet peeve?
You're bothered when justice4all does it, but not when Daniel Green does it? Sorry, but that doesn't make sense to me. Are you selective with your pet peeves or does every example apply?
I'm getting off my soapbox, too. Have a nice day, Mnchkin!
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I understand that and it wasn't my point. My beef wasn't with you. Daniel Green seems to think it is horrible to accuse Kate of whatever we may think she's up to without proof; pathetic even. However, it is perfectly okay for her to accuse the dj of lying. All I'm saying is that's a double standard, the pot calling the kettle black. Either it's not okay or it is. She needs to choose. IMO.
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Well, IMO, it's equally important to PROVE the dj is telling the truth before we start getting too excited about what anyone claims they saw. 
Seriously...anyone could come out of the woodwork about now and talk all kinds of smack about Kate. They could be lying through their teeth, it could be proven beyond any shadow of a doubt they were lying through their teeth, and yet....there would be people who would still quote them as speaking the gospel, only because it's what they want to believe.
I doubt the dj, because he's the ONLY one there in a very public place, who claims he saw them holding hands. Kate is a woman who's constantly harassed by a myriad of paparazzi. Where were they??? Sleeping?
THEN, suddenly, it's revealed that nothing was actually said about "kissing", other than the original starter of this gossip saying that part of the dj's show was lost. Then I get called out for questioning about the tampering of the tape. WTFlock?
So you tell me. What are we supposed to do when someone says such things and then backpedals all the way and says MAYBE the dj MIGHT have been caught in a lie??? 
As for calling anyone a liar, I think at this juncture it's in everyone's best interest to question these bearers of ugly rumors, be it about Kate OR Jon.
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Yes, I can tell it's a pet peeve. I agree, which is why I felt compelled to respond to Daniel Green. She stated the dj was obviously making it up. She has no proof of that, yet stated it as a fact. Isn't that an example of your pet peeve?
You're bothered when justice4all does it, but not when Daniel Green does it? Sorry, but that doesn't make sense to me. Are you selective with your pet peeves or does every example apply?
I'm getting off my soapbox, too. Have a nice day, Mnchkin!
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NO...I am not selective at all. DG did say that and should not have IMO. Guess I should have said that earlier.
However, if you check back you should also see that J4A suggested herself that there was the possibility that the dj had been caught in a lie.
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Hi Spyder,
What are you supposed to do? Call the poster on it, by all means, but don't then turn around and DO what it is you're calling the poster on.
That's all I'm saying.
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NO...I am not selective at all. DG did say that and should not have IMO. Guess I should have said that earlier.
However, if you check back you should also see that J4A suggested herself that there was the possibility that the dj had been caught in a lie.
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I did see that and I have no argument with anyone calling J4A on it. I just don't agree with a poster saying it's pathetic for one poster to do it and then going right ahead and doing the same thing. That's all I am trying to say, Mnchkin.
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