Caylee 11-7-09

[gaelicpeas]

Looks like it is time for a new thread.

It took me most of yesterday to get through all of the documents, but they certainly contained some damning evidence, IMO - the entomology report, in particular. That report solidified a lot of earlier circumstantial evidence, I think. They were able to establish a pretty clear-cut timeline from the type of insects present.

[Scampi]

Good morning Gael. I agree with you, the bug report nailed down the timleline of when Caylee was thrown in that swamp.

For anyone that missed Miss Nancy last night, here is the transcript:


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../06/ng.01.html

[Jeepers]

Why does LE believe that KC put that little shirt on her deliberate. What makes them think that? I would have never thought anything about the shirt. I have seen so many little ones wear shirts like that and thought them to be cute.

[gaelicpeas]

Originally Posted by Jeepers

Why does LE believe that KC put that little shirt on her deliberate. What makes them think that? I would have never thought anything about the shirt. I have seen so many little ones wear shirts like that and thought them to be cute.

I don't know why they think that, but I have to admit, it was the first thing I thought when I saw those letters.

[gaelicpeas]

Originally Posted by Scampi

Good morning Gael. I agree with you, the bug report nailed down the timleline of when Caylee was thrown in that swamp.

For anyone that missed Miss Nancy last night, here is the transcript:


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../06/ng.01.html

Good morning, Scampi. Miss Nancy was on fire last night.

[martha]

Good morning everyone, I have not read the doc.yet and I just want to thank all of you for posting about what was in them.I pray they have enougth to get casey and put her where she will never enjoy another day of her life.She took Caylee;s life and now it is time for her to pay.Little Caylee is gone and from what we hear she is better of so now for casey to be punished is what I think everyone wants.maye we will see this trial one day I sure hope so.jmho

[Jeepers]

Miss Nancy had a good show last night. Lenny was really hurt and said Tracy was too. The news of the syringe just really got everyone's heart and brain.
Jean talkin bout George and Cindy's tats that they got them for remeberance of Caylee.
I don't need a tat to remember Caylee. There many people that won't ever forget 31 days or a syringe with chloroform or duct tape.
Good Lord what else did she do to that baby!

[adair]

Good morning fellow posters.....thanks for the transcript from NG.

I am still getting thru the newest docs released.


I thought that chloroform was used as an inhalant....was she injecting this into caylee? Or was she using this syringe to apply to a cloth, then hold it over her mouth....chilling....

imo

[Ladygator]

Originally Posted by Jeepers

Why does LE believe that KC put that little shirt on her deliberate. What makes them think that? I would have never thought anything about the shirt. I have seen so many little ones wear shirts like that and thought them to be cute.

IIRC, their report said Casey 'may' have deliberately put that shirt on Casey. I was surprised to read that and I also wonder what makes them think that.

Do they have a receipt that shows that shirt was puchased after June 15th? That's the only thing I can think of. But then, wouldn't they say, flat out, that is was deliberate? And show the receipt in discovery.

[Ladygator]

I was just reading a "Question and Answers' article about Anthony Sowell, the Ohio serial killer. As you may know, his house smelled horrible for years and many thought the smell was coming from the sausage factory.

A big question being asked is WHY? Why didn't anyone realize what the smell was? Here is an answer from a pathologist - {And I think this can be related to the Anthony's and their knowledge of what the smell was coming from Casey's car}

"A renowned pathologist said that many people don't recognize the smell of a decomposing body because it is a distinct smell most people are fortunate enough not to experience"

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009..._sowell_c.html

[Scampi]

It really amazes me that lyon can submit the motion to dismiss these charges and the motion to refute this as a DP case, when we see evidence such as this.

Prior research into how to make chloroform.

Chloroform in high levels found in the trunk.

Chloroform found in a syringe located with the remains.

Duct tape on the skull, at the mouth area.

IMO, when there is evidence like this, motions like this defense have filed are nuisance motions. They absolutely do not make sense, in my view, in light of the known evidence in this case.

BTW, I was very glad to see the decomposition on the trunk carpet noted a few times in the released docs. We must not forget that there was human decomposition found on the carpet in that trunk. It was the purge from Caylee Anthony, imo.

I also noted that the entomylogist examined the car and even tho the carpet had been removed from the trunk, six months later it still stank of decomposition.

[AMS]

Good morning all,

Does anyone have any thoughts on where the testosterone came from?

NG sure was on a roll last night. I can't believe she asked them to take down the lower banner so everyone could see Casey's entire back.

imo

[Jeepers]

Originally Posted by Ladygator

I was just reading a "Question and Answers' article about Anthony Sowell, the Ohio serial killer. As you may know, his house smelled horrible for years and many thought the smell was coming from the sausage factory.

A big question being asked is WHY? Why didn't anyone realize what the smell was? Here is an answer from a pathologist - {And I think this can be related to the Anthony's and their knowledge of what the smell was coming from Casey's car}

"A renowned pathologist said that many people don't recognize the smell of a decomposing body because it is a distinct smell most people are fortunate enough not to experience"

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009..._sowell_c.html

I would agree, I have never smelled that smell but I have been in paper mills that would make you want to throw up. I would have never associated a bad smell to a death smell. I am glad to say that smell has never been entered into my data bank.
Six months later with the carpet removed and the smell still there. That is just unreal.

[Scampi]

Morning A! I think she got ahold of a used syringe. You know the MOTY was very thrifty when it came to getting her supplies together to murder her daughter. Everything was borrowed, imo.

I cannot wait till trial, when Linda Drane Burdick takes all of this evidence and puts it into a narative for us. I have no doubt they have a horrific story to tell about what this monster did to Caylee.

[Jeepers]

Originally Posted by AMS

Good morning all,

Does anyone have any thoughts on where the testosterone came from?

NG sure was on a roll last night. I can't believe she asked them to take down the lower banner so everyone could see Casey's entire back.

imo

I am not saying. I was totally wrong about the chloroform being used to kill Caylee. I was convinced it was a by product of cleaning agents Cindy has used to clean the car.
I wish that had been the case.
I had read so much about cleaning products that could produce chloroform even fabric softeners. My mind was put at ease thinking that the chloroform was from Cindy tossing them in the car. Not anymore.
Testosterone also like chloroform is easy to find. Our own bodies, hair growth products, body builders, Libdo injections for men and women.
I am just afraid to guess.

[trich]

I have not read all the info that has been just released but it most certainly seems from reading here that the state has plenty of evidence against Casey.
I see the only way to defend Casey is to possibly try and prove someone else did this to Caylee....which I don't think will wash in any way.(IMO th emore they try to say some others had keys to the house and car the worse it will sound since there is no proof whatsoever of that)
There is so much more to say Casey did it then someone else.
I do wish she would save the state time and money and admit her guilt.
But as long as she is under the delusion that Baez is so great that he is going to get her off she imo never will admit she killed Caylee.

[Scampi]

You're not alone Jeepie, I think many people were relunctant to think the worst, even tho the signs were all there that we are absolutely dealing with a monster here, imo.

Even Len Padilla and Tracy McLaughlin have been stomach punched with this latest evidence.

I think there were those people, who were still holding out hope this was some sort of accident.

I think with the release of this evidence, that is all in the past and most people now know Caylee Anthony suffered a very horrific death at the hands of her mother.

[Jeepers]

Originally Posted by Scampi

You're not alone Jeepie, I think many people were relunctant to think the worst, even tho the signs were all there that we are absolutely dealing with a monster here, imo.

Even Len Padilla and Tracy McLaughlin have been stomach punched with this latest evidence.

I think there were those people, who were still holding out hope this was some sort of accident.

I think with the release of this evidence, that is all in the past and most people now know Caylee Anthony suffered a very horrific death at the hands of her mother.

When I listened to Tracy's taped interview and found out that she actually liked KC and was sending her money for her snacks and things I thought it to be so sad. KC had many good friends or could have had many good friends, they all knew she was a liar but they let her still hang out with them. I think that KC was a likeable person, fun to be around just no one knew the real KC. No one knew she could be that despicable and cruel.
Everyone was so shocked at what had taken place with Caylee. There were a few that said KC was not attentive to Caylee but nothing ever raised a red flag that Caylee was being mistreated.
It just makes you wonder what KC did to her when no one was around. She did not just murder Caylee on F ing Whim.
KC is a scary dangerous person and no one knows what she is really capable of. I tend to think George and Cindy were on her list of things to do somewhere. How else did she think she was going to get the house.

[Patty437]

Originally Posted by AMS

Good morning all,

Does anyone have any thoughts on where the testosterone came from?

NG sure was on a roll last night. I can't believe she asked them to take down the lower banner so everyone could see Casey's entire back.

imo

I work in a pharmacy and we have a male customer who gets an IM injecton of Testosterone monthly. Could be George's RX and Cindy could have administered the monthly injections. After all, she's an RN.

[nana6]

Originally Posted by AMS

Good morning all,

Does anyone have any thoughts on where the testosterone came from?

NG sure was on a roll last night. I can't believe she asked them to take down the lower banner so everyone could see Casey's entire back.

imo

I know I also thought of this. I wonder if Casey stopped by her mothers office for a visit and stole some syringe from a wastebasket or maybe someone she knew was using this drug themselves and put it in a wastebasket she was able to get ahold of. Who knows with this girl. AND might I ad, her back pictures last night were not a pretty sight imo

[nana6]

Originally Posted by Patty437

I work in a pharmacy and we have a male customer who gets an IM injecton of Testosterone monthly. Could be George's RX and Cindy could have administered the monthly injections. After all, she's an RN.

good thought Patty

[nana6]

Originally Posted by Scampi

Morning A! I think she got ahold of a used syringe. You know the MOTY was very thrifty when it came to getting her supplies together to murder her daughter. Everything was borrowed, imo.

I cannot wait till trial, when Linda Drane Burdick takes all of this evidence and puts it into a narative for us. I have no doubt they have a horrific story to tell about what this monster did to Caylee.

I think Cindy better go see Casey and teach her to say bye bye again

[Patty437]

Originally Posted by nana6

I know I also thought of this. I wonder if Casey stopped by her mothers office for a visit and stole some syringe from a wastebasket or maybe someone she knew was using this drug themselves and put it in a wastebasket she was able to get ahold of. Who knows with this girl. AND might I ad, her back pictures last night were not a pretty sight imo

I don't Casey went out of her way for anything......everything was right there in the home.

[nana6]

Originally Posted by Patty437

I don't Casey went out of her way for anything......everything was right there in the home.

possibly, maybe it belonged to her parents we dont know

[charmin 66]

Originally Posted by nana6

I know I also thought of this. I wonder if Casey stopped by her mothers office for a visit and stole some syringe from a wastebasket or maybe someone she knew was using this drug themselves and put it in a wastebasket she was able to get ahold of. Who knows with this girl. AND might I ad, her back pictures last night were not a pretty sight imo

I think she got the syringe when she was visiting Cindy at work. She probably just reached into one of those red toxic waste disposal boxes that are all around medical buildings.

Wonder if the package has any kind of traceable ID number.

[koawally]

Originally Posted by Jeepers

I am not saying. I was totally wrong about the chloroform being used to kill Caylee. I was convinced it was a by product of cleaning agents Cindy has used to clean the car.
I wish that had been the case.
I had read so much about cleaning products that could produce chloroform even fabric softeners. My mind was put at ease thinking that the chloroform was from Cindy tossing them in the car. Not anymore.
Testosterone also like chloroform is easy to find. Our own bodies, hair growth products, body builders, Libdo injections for men and women.
I am just afraid to guess.

Perhaps Casey stole some testosterone from the body/muscle building powder --->from one of her several lovers.

[martha]

I think casey could do anything to any body and not blink an eye.she is cold and no feeling and heart for anyone but her self. Maybe when the trial starts we can see this person for what she really is. casey never thought for one min.anyone would ask her what happened to Caylee she thought they all would just take her word on the nanny did it and it would all be over and mom and dad would take care of this for her.she has always done that and why would this be any difference. I guess she never thought about le getting involved in this in any way.just her and her mom and dad and maybe lee..now it is time for casey to wake up and see what she has done. most of all pay for what she did to CAYLEE. jmho

[Scampi]

Originally Posted by Jeepers

When I listened to Tracy's taped interview and found out that she actually liked KC and was sending her money for her snacks and things I thought it to be so sad. KC had many good friends or could have had many good friends, they all knew she was a liar but they let her still hang out with them. I think that KC was a likeable person, fun to be around just no one knew the real KC. No one knew she could be that despicable and cruel.
Everyone was so shocked at what had taken place with Caylee. There were a few that said KC was not attentive to Caylee but nothing ever raised a red flag that Caylee was being mistreated.
It just makes you wonder what KC did to her when no one was around. She did not just murder Caylee on F ing Whim.
KC is a scary dangerous person and no one knows what she is really capable of. I tend to think George and Cindy were on her list of things to do somewhere. How else did she think she was going to get the house.

Excellent take on this accused babykiller. I think casey anthony went thru life faking human emotions. IMO she is a sociopath and a chameleon who reflected back acceptable traits according to the person she was with.

Only Caylee got to see the monster within, imo. Tho I do believe cynthia and george had glimpses into the nightmare from time to time.

[Kathlb]

Originally Posted by AMS

Good morning all,

Does anyone have any thoughts on where the testosterone came from?

NG sure was on a roll last night. I can't believe she asked them to take down the lower banner so everyone could see Casey's entire back.

imo

I agree, Nancy was on a roll. :-) However it bothered me when the first dr. said they need to look for a person who was on body building substances due to the testosterone in the syringe. I can just hear the def. now saying some guy did it due to that.

[nana6]

bbl friends lots of errands today

[Jeepers]

Originally Posted by trich

I have not read all the info that has been just released but it most certainly seems from reading here that the state has plenty of evidence against Casey.
I see the only way to defend Casey is to possibly try and prove someone else did this to Caylee....which I don't think will wash in any way.(IMO th emore they try to say some others had keys to the house and car the worse it will sound since there is no proof whatsoever of that)
There is so much more to say Casey did it then someone else.
I do wish she would save the state time and money and admit her guilt.
But as long as she is under the delusion that Baez is so great that he is going to get her off she imo never will admit she killed Caylee.

Baez I think has got her in deeper than what it could have been. If they had accepted the plea deal before Caylee was found back when all of this was still new Casey would have been sentenced and out in no time flat. Now she is facing the DP and rightfully so just because Baez wanted to make a name for himself. Well he made his name and it is not a good one. The State is not interested in any more deals they are so tired of Baez & Company they are ready to bring it on.

[Kathlb]

Originally Posted by Patty437

I work in a pharmacy and we have a male customer who gets an IM injecton of Testosterone monthly. Could be George's RX and Cindy could have administered the monthly injections. After all, she's an RN.

I pray you're right and they have records of George getting injections. (not sure of the ability to see his medical records even though they are the state). If they could have those records, then they could stop any defense theories that it was some guy instead of Casey.

[Patty437]

Originally Posted by charmin 66

I think she got the syringe when she was visiting Cindy at work. She probably just reached into one of those red toxic waste disposal boxes that are all around medical buildings.

Wonder if the package has any kind of tracable ID number.

We don't even know the last time Casey stopped by Cindy's work. That syringe still had the wrapper that original syringes come in, so she didn't grab a used one from the trash. Wouldn't surprise me if LE has checked George's medical records to see if he's on testosterone injections.

[charmin 66]

Originally Posted by Jeepers

Baez I think has got her in deeper than what it could have been. If they had accepted the plea deal before Caylee was found back when all of this was still new Casey would have been sentenced and out in no time flat. Now she is facing the DP and rightfully so just because Baez wanted to make a name for himself. Well he made his name and it is not a good one. The State is not interested in any more deals they are so tired of Baez & Company they are ready to bring it on.

I don't know if it's all Baez. The truth and Miss Anthony are strangers.

[charmin 66]

Originally Posted by Patty437

We don't even know the last time Casey stopped by Cindy's work. That syringe still had the wrapper that original syringes come in, so she didn't grab a used one from the trash. Wouldn't surprise me if LE has checked George's medical records to see if he's on testosterone injections.

We do know that "someone" was searching for chloroform in March.

[Januarybaby]

Does anyone have links to the docs besides clickorlando and docstop? Ive been trying since yesterday and cannot get them to load. All I get is a blank page or webpage cannot be found.

[charmin 66]

Originally Posted by Januarybaby

Does anyone have links to the docs besides clickorlando and docstop? Ive been trying since yesterday and cannot get them to load. All I get is a blank page or webpage cannot be found.

http://www.wesh.com/news/21540851/detail.html

[marinewife5]

Originally Posted by nana6

I know I also thought of this. I wonder if Casey stopped by her mothers office for a visit and stole some syringe from a wastebasket or maybe someone she knew was using this drug themselves and put it in a wastebasket she was able to get ahold of. Who knows with this girl. AND might I ad, her back pictures last night were not a pretty sight imo

is it crazy to think that an orthopedic office would have syringes prefilled with a dose of steroids? surely there's a way to track that syringe.

jmo

[Patty437]

Originally Posted by charmin 66

We do know that "someone" was searching for chloroform in March.

Yeah......and let's not forget that google can turn misspelled words like Cindy's misspelled chlorophyll into chloroform and work records can be wrong!! Notice she didn't cop to the neck breaking searches though. What a whack job.

[charmin 66]

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=494

11/06/09 Bug Report – Entomology