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Old 11-06-2009, 04:21 PM
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I'm guessing gays have tremendous political power in SFO.
Of course, that how Pelosi keeps getting reelected. IMOO
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:24 PM
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Spin as conservatives want, this girl was/is a train wreck. Goes well with some other's in that party, imo....
I see why this thread remained on the politics board, now. Thanks, I get the connection.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:29 PM
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Spin as conservatives want, this girl was/is a train wreck. Goes well with some other's in that party, imo....
We have Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter, Michelle Backman, Michelle Milkin and Carrie Prejean.
They have Nancy Pelosi and Helen Thomas
No wonder they are so angry.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:31 PM
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We have Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter, Michelle Backman, Michelle Milkin and Carrie Prejean.
They have Nancy Pelosi and Helen Thomas
No wonder they are so angry.
Since when was Helen Thomas declared a Democratic activist? Do you have a link?
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:35 PM
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I dunno Details. Giving an honest answer to a question asked on live National TV is not in my opinion, casting stones. Carrie voiced no judgements about gay marriage or gay people. She just voiced her non support of gay marriage. Which, of course, is right in line with Ca and Maine reputating it in their election as has many other states. Are the State voters casting stones, too? The question itself had no place at a beauty pageant and Mario/Perez was pushing his own agenda.
Voicing her opinion was fine, I'm speaking of what she's done since then - the suggestions that she lost due to politics, what she says about gays, etc.

All the other girls were also asked controversial questions - it's part of the pageant - the bit where they pretend this is not just a shallow beauty competition, but is supposed to be about their intellect and ability to speak well too. Her answer was something that indeed a majority agree with, but it was inarticulate, inaccurate, really not good. The judge was out of line speaking about it as more than just an answer - but that doesn't change the quality of the answer. This silly notion that it was the controversy that lost her the competition, rather than the fact that she was behind on points and did not answer well - that's what I object to.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:39 PM
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What would those stones be?

She was asked a direct question, to which she responded with an opinion that differs from yours? Good gravy, grow up.

So much for the party of tolerance! HYPOCRITE.
Stones would be the suggestion she lost and is being persecuted for her opinion. A contestant behind on points who answers a question inarticulately, with HUGE inaccuracies, then claims she lost because of bias? To break her contract repeatedly? She's throwing plenty of stones.

Her answering the question - I have no problem with. I've good friends who voted Yes on Prop 8 - and they're still good friends. I know people who just don't think it's what God wants for gays to get married - but also believe it's never their place to force their religious views to be honored by others - they're still good friends, and I respect their opinion. It's everything AFTER answering the question that is the problem.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:42 PM
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Funny how those who bring up the Folsom street fair to condemn all gays go silent and change the subject when the heterosexual public sex display events are brought up.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:55 PM
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We've been through this, 'cept you are changing your list. You can have 'em
Just adding the so beautiful Carrie Prejean. Growth is good.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:58 PM
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Voicing her opinion was fine, I'm speaking of what she's done since then - the suggestions that she lost due to politics, what she says about gays, etc.

All the other girls were also asked controversial questions - it's part of the pageant - the bit where they pretend this is not just a shallow beauty competition, but is supposed to be about their intellect and ability to speak well too. Her answer was something that indeed a majority agree with, but it was inarticulate, inaccurate, really not good. The judge was out of line speaking about it as more than just an answer - but that doesn't change the quality of the answer. This silly notion that it was the controversy that lost her the competition, rather than the fact that she was behind on points and did not answer well - that's what I object to.
Okay, we can get her for not articulating a complete sentence. Whats inaccurate about stating a personal opinion that she "don't support gay marriage"? We will never know the truth about the contest. I do support gay marriage and believe in equal opportunity divorce, such as the plus 50% rate in our country.

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Old 11-06-2009, 04:59 PM
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I'm a conservative, but don't have a problem with public nudity and private sex. It doesn't work to throw all conservatives into the same basket.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:15 PM
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We have Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter, Michelle Backman, Michelle Milkin and Carrie Prejean.
They have Nancy Pelosi and Helen Thomas
No wonder they are so angry.
Either of which have more intelligence and integrity and respect than all of the others combined. One good apple is worth more than a whole bushel of bad apples.
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:15 PM
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We have Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter, Michelle Backman, Michelle Milkin and Carrie Prejean.
They have Nancy Pelosi and Helen Thomas
No wonder they are so angry.
Oh how proud you "we" must be.
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:16 PM
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Oh how proud you "we" must be.
Gee, I feel left out, as a moderate, 'we' don't have anyone I guess
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:23 PM
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Gee, I feel left out, as a moderate, 'we' don't have anyone I guess
I guess we could pick Mother Teresa to be on our side. Can you imagine what someone here thinks of her since she wasn't a raving beauty?
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:26 PM
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I guess we could pick Mother Teresa to be on our side. Wonder what ABC thinks of her since she wasn't a raving beauty?

My mother had a saying:

Beauty is skin deep, but ugly goes right to the bone.

Judge Judy says:

Beauty fades, dumb is forever.


I don't consider Palin or Coulter raving beauties, and Carrie, once she opens her mouth, Judge Judy's words come to mind.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:52 PM
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Okay, we can get her for not articulating a complete sentence. Whats inaccurate about stating a personal opinion that she "don't support gay marriage"? We will never know the truth about the contest. I do support gay marriage and believe in equal opportunity divorce, such as the plus 50% rate in our country.
Here's what she said:
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Well I think it's great that Americans are able to choose one way or the other. We live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite marriage. You know what, in my country, in my family, I think I believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman, no offense to anybody out there. But that’s how I was raised and I believe that it should be between a man and a woman.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_Prejean

Americans are NOT able to chose one way or another. That's not remotely the truth. She said that here we are able to chose either, and that she thought that was a great thing. That is not true. Then she said that she thinks it should only be between a man and woman - contradicting her "great thing" comment.
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:37 PM
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My mother had a saying:

Beauty is skin deep, but ugly goes right to the bone.

Judge Judy says:

Beauty fades, dumb is forever.


I don't consider Palin or Coulter raving beauties, and Carrie, once she opens her mouth, Judge Judy's words come to mind.
Clearly Beauty and Brains is the best - like Sarah, Ann, the Michelles and Carrie. All have University degrees, three are successful authors and all are smart woman and two of them got themselves elected on their own and all bought their own ticket to ride.
I love and honour mother Theresa . Like her, many have toiled for years in caring for the sick and injured. Its not about Mother Theresa, its about who represents the Left and the conservatives.
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:45 PM
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Clearly Beauty and Brains is the best - like Sarah, Ann, the Michelles and Carrie. All have University degrees, three are successful authors and all are smart woman and two of them got themselves elected on their own and all bought their own ticket to ride.
I love and honour mother Theresa . Like her, many have toiled for years in caring for the sick and injured. Its not about Mother Theresa, its about who represents the Left and the conservatives.
Carrie doesn't have a college degree, does she? She does have beauty. Brains, not so much obviously. LOL

IMO it's downright pathetic when someone, especially a fellow female thinks a woman isn't successful if she isn't pretty.
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:53 PM
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Carrie doesn't have a college degree, does she? She does have beauty. Brains, not so much obviously. LOL

IMO it's downright pathetic when someone, especially a fellow female thinks a woman isn't successful if she isn't pretty.
Yes Carrie has a degree from, of all places, a Christian University and as it turns out did make a complete sentence.
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:55 PM
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Yes Carrie has a degree from, of all places, a Christian University and as it turns out did make a complete sentence.
She was a Junior in May 09 at a small Christian college. Are you sure about that degree?
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:14 PM
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http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/06/carrie...#ixzz0W6phTW2P

Carrie Prejean will finally get to enjoy some alone time tonight ... TMZ has learned the "biblically correct" crusader for "opposite marriage" has been mysteriously removed from an ultra-conservative event in NJ.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:17 PM
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Link please.
I can't find one but maybe ABC can.

I did find this.

The differences between colleges and universities.

http://www.diffen.com/difference/College_vs_University
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:31 PM
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I dunno Details. Giving an honest answer to a question asked on live National TV is not in my opinion, casting stones. Carrie voiced no judgements about gay marriage or gay people. She just voiced her non support of gay marriage. Which, of course, is right in line with Ca and Maine reputating it in their election as has many other states. Are the State voters casting stones, too? The question itself had no place at a beauty pageant and Mario/Perez was pushing his own agenda.
what she did after the show was where the throwing stones came in, she could not leave it be, she had to pick the bigger stone and give them a toss
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:24 PM
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Apparently one of those stones was covering up a soft-porn tape?
yep, you know what they say about people living in glass houses throwing stones, she invited the world in, they saw who she really was rather then who she was pretending to be
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:37 AM
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We have Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter, Michelle Backman, Michelle Milkin and Carrie Prejean.
They have Nancy Pelosi and Helen Thomas
No wonder they are so angry.
That's the point.
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That's the point.
I will gladly accept Speaker Pelosi and a respected journalist. MOF Will "raise" you two moderates, Sec Clinton and Sen Boxer.

And, yes please, keep your baggage. tia
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"Carrie Prejean dropped from Whippany event, says TMZ"

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/cele...d_from_wh.html

guess she was not wanted anymore at the conservative event called "defenders of family?"
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Not a single word from the PreJean camp about the tape being "invasion of privacy" or "distributed without her consent" or any of those other legal terms. There have been no pleas to the court to stop it. We would have heard about a legal wrangle.

The film is for sale. Nobody is buying.

Last night Keith Olberman said (he was told) the legal team started playing the tape, showing the graphic details, but no face. CP said it was totally disgusting and couldn't understand why they would roll such a vile tape in her presence.

Then....... it panned to the face of the 'actress'......

Oops!

The case was immediately settled.

When this all came down a few months ago, I posted that she'd never win against Donald Trump. He'd not leave a stone unturned. Donald Trump gave her the chance to back off. Probably has a whole library of those tapes if she pulls anything else.

I have a question, though. If these proceedings were sealed, how are we hearing about it?

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Old 11-07-2009, 11:44 AM
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Not a single word from the PreJean camp about the tape being "invasion of privacy" or "distributed without her consent" or any of those other legal terms. There have been no pleas to the court to stop it. We would have heard about a legal wrangle.

The film is for sale. Nobody is buying.

Last night Keith Olberman said (he was told) the legal team started playing the tape, showing the graphic details, but no face. CP said it was totally disgusting and couldn't understand why they would roll such a vile tape in her presence.

Then....... it panned to the face of the 'actress'......

Oops!

The case was immediately settled.

When this all came down a few months ago, I posted that she'd never win against Donald Trump. He'd not leave a stone unturned. Donald Trump gave her the chance to back off. Probably has a whole library of those tapes if she pulls anything else.

I have a question, though. If these proceedings were sealed, how are we hearing about it?

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I think only the terms of the settlement were sealed, but from what I have seen she got no $$$, just the rights to her book still standing - lol

wonder how many on the right have canceled that pre-order
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Old 11-07-2009, 01:07 PM
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Yes Carrie has a degree from, of all places, a Christian University and as it turns out did make a complete sentence.
I've been trying to google this - read she was a senior at San Diego Christian College in the spring of '09 - but didn't see any reports of her graduating. Either way I guess they won't have her on any advertised list of "distinguished graduates".
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sounds like she was thrown under the bus...
For a real fun "Under my bus" google ZoNation for his rendition.
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I'd still like to know where she got her degree at?
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Link showing that. I have found nothing saying she graduated. If you can't prove it, and it's not a personal fact, You should not post it as the truth.
All I can find is that she was a junior as of May 2009. Might have had to drop out to attend to "other" things. She may follow in others footsteps and take a few more years to graduate.
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Old 11-08-2009, 10:20 AM
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San Diego Christian College.
There mission is on their web site. I don't know that Carrie has influenced the world with the kind of knowledge they're talking about here.

The mission of San Diego Christian College is to equip Christians to contribute to society and thereby influence the world through knowledge, skills, and godly character within the framework of biblical and scientific creationism, and the authority and inerrancy of the Scripture.
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Please post a link proving your statement of fact of her not graduating. "If you can't prove it, and it's not a personal fact, You should not post it as the truth."
what post stated as fact she did not graduate? i think the fact is, no one knows if she did or not, as no one can find a record of her graduating
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She has not graduated.

http://www.christianpost.com/article...ues/print.html

Sat, Sep. 19, 2009

Prejean, now 22 years old and a senior at San Diego Christian College, ...
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We have Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter, Michelle Backman, Michelle Milkin and Carrie Prejean.
They have Nancy Pelosi and Helen Thomas
No wonder they are so angry.
no anger here, if you all want Prejean and the gang, that is up to you and you alone
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There mission is on their web site. I don't know that Carrie has influenced the world with the kind of knowledge they're talking about here.

The mission of San Diego Christian College is to equip Christians to contribute to society and thereby influence the world through knowledge, skills, and godly character within the framework of biblical and scientific creationism, and the authority and inerrancy of the Scripture.
Oops; the poor girl must have missed a class or 2! We can't even find a link to any record of her graduation. If she did graduate from this school they must be keeping it very quiet.
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Oops; the poor girl must have missed a class or 2! We can't even find a link to any record of her graduation. If she did graduate from this school they must be keeping it very quiet.
She is still there, or was still there. Things might have changed since her video showed up.
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