11/2 thru ....

[Eileen]

I hope they find the person responsible for killing this little girl?
We dont really know what happened to her. how she died?
but it is very very sad!!!!!!!

now if summer was walking home with her brother and sister and they got in a little verbal fight and she ran up ahead of them maybe she made it home ! who is this guy that was waiting for the children? (somers mother had lunch with him that day i believe)

[cantstandnuts]

Originally Posted by Eileen

I hope they find the person responsible for killing this little girl?
We dont really know what happened to her. how she died?
but it is very very sad!!!!!!!

now if summer was walking home with her brother and sister and they got in a little verbal fight and she ran up ahead of them maybe she made it home ! who is this guy that was waiting for the children? (somers mother had lunch with him that day i believe)

The guy waiting at home has been ruled out. I believe that if it was him, he'd be arrested by now, but I'm not sure of anything anymore.

Either they know what's up and are keeping it close to the vest until they have enough evidence to arrest the scumbag, or they have absolutely no idea who did it IMO.

Unfortunately, I think it's the latter. Just a gut, based on how fast they found her and how nothing's happened since then.

Poor little girl. RIP, Somer.

[SnowWhite]

Well...like the rest of you I keep checking here and on the news and nothing.

I'm thinking that LE needs to release the information about where they have determined to be her initial drop point. Where was she initially determined to have been dumped to begin with? Maybe I'm just assuming she was dumped near home. Maybe we would be surprised to find out where she was actually at? That would potentially jar someone's memory.

Unfortunately there are enough cases going cold already in Florida and enough new cases each day that this is going to start dwindling to page 9 unless something unfolds here quickly.

LE has already been asking for the public's help, why not release a little more information?

In the meantime, I tell you what I would NOT want my children out by themselves. SOMEONE out there killed this little girl and he or she is STILL out there.

[Elyssa]

Me too SnowWhite. I check in everyday. I am very concerned that this case has gone cold.
Who murdered Somer? Everyone seems so focused on SO. Have the kids in that area been checked out?

[moonlite]

Originally Posted by SnowWhite

Well...like the rest of you I keep checking here and on the news and nothing.

I'm thinking that LE needs to release the information about where they have determined to be her initial drop point. Where was she initially determined to have been dumped to begin with? Maybe I'm just assuming she was dumped near home. Maybe we would be surprised to find out where she was actually at? That would potentially jar someone's memory.

Unfortunately there are enough cases going cold already in Florida and enough new cases each day that this is going to start dwindling to page 9 unless something unfolds here quickly.

LE has already been asking for the public's help, why not release a little more information?

In the meantime, I tell you what I would NOT want my children out by themselves. SOMEONE out there killed this little girl and he or she is STILL out there.

Greetings"
SnowWhite"

Maybe the LE will release more information after America's most wanted airs on 11/7. I really hope this perp is caught and taken off the street. No way at any time or place should parents let small children out alone.IMO

Hoping for Justice for little Somer.

Moonlite

[Chica]

Just thought I'd check in to see if there were any new developments. I, too hope maybe something new will surface after AMW airing Saturday night. So sad..

[aproudmom]

hopefully there will be an arrest soon

[Lovethechild]

Along with Sheriff Beseler, John Walsh theorizes Somer's killer could be a pedophile serial murderer who may have re-emerged from a "dormant period," and who may be responsible for the previous disappearances of 4 additional children. Those cases remain open.



http://www.examiner.com/x-23328-True...most-3000-tips

[watson]

Originally Posted by Lovethechild

Along with Sheriff Beseler, John Walsh theorizes Somer's killer could be a pedophile serial murderer who may have re-emerged from a "dormant period," and who may be responsible for the previous disappearances of 4 additional children. Those cases remain open.



http://www.examiner.com/x-23328-True...most-3000-tips

The link provided doesn't have the information you quoted. They must have changed their article? Anyway, I was interested to hear more about the 4 other children who have disappeared. I hadn't heard that before.

[moonlite]

Originally Posted by Lovethechild

Along with Sheriff Beseler, John Walsh theorizes Somer's killer could be a pedophile serial murderer who may have re-emerged from a "dormant period," and who may be responsible for the previous disappearances of 4 additional children. Those cases remain open.



http://www.examiner.com/x-23328-True...most-3000-tips

Greetings"
Lovethechild'

Thanks for the link. Do you know what 4 cases John Walsh is talking about that could be linked to Somer's.

Moonlite

[Breazy]

Originally Posted by Lovethechild

Along with Sheriff Beseler, John Walsh theorizes Somer's killer could be a pedophile serial murderer who may have re-emerged from a "dormant period," and who may be responsible for the previous disappearances of 4 additional children. Those cases remain open.



http://www.examiner.com/x-23328-True...most-3000-tips

Wonder if he's talking about the guy whose wife died just previous to Somer being killed? Is he still in jail for not updating his registry?

[Elyssa]

Hoping there will be an arrest made today. Interesting about the other 4 unsolved cases. I don't think I'm yet buying the dormant pedophile angle.

[koawally]

Originally Posted by watson

The link provided doesn't have the information you quoted. They must have changed their article? Anyway, I was interested to hear more about the 4 other children who have disappeared. I hadn't heard that before.

Here is information on the other children:

http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/st..._2a1disap.html

Jean(Jeanie) Marie Schoen (9 yrs) July 21 1974 (missing 24 yrs) after going to a store near her grandmother's house on West 19th Street in Springfield. Body never found.

**Lillian Annette Anderson (11 yrs) & her sister , Mylette (6yrs) disappeared Aug. 1from their Oceanway home while their mother was attending a sick relative.

Prosecutors concluded the girls were abducted by self-proclaimed mass murderer Paul John Knowles and closed the case. Knowles, a 28-year-old Jacksonville resident, was killed in December 1974 trying to escape from Georgia authorities.

In tape recordings found after his death, Knowles said he abducted two girls matching the description of the Anderson sisters and buried them in an isolated area at the western end of Commonwealth Avenue. Their bodies were never found despite a massive search. Lester Parmenter, the former homicide detective who investigated the disappearances, said he and his partner, Sgt. Richard Pruett, never considered the Anderson case cleared. Even so, ''We felt strongly that he probably did it. We couldn't prove it because we didn't have the bodies,'' Parmenter said.

Virginia Helm (12 yrs) disappeared Sept. 27 while going to a convenience store a block from her home on Dean Road on the Southside. A month later, her body was found in a shallow grave south of Beach Boulevard. She had been shot through the head.

Rebecca Ann Greene (12 yrs) disappeared Oct. 12 after buying soft drinks at a store in her Fairfield neighborhood. Her skeleton was found three years later on Heckscher Drive

[moonlite]

Originally Posted by koawally

Here is information on the other children:

http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/st..._2a1disap.html

Jean(Jeanie) Marie Schoen (9 yrs) July 21 1974 (missing 24 yrs) after going to a store near her grandmother's house on West 19th Street in Springfield. Body never found.

**Lillian Annette Anderson (11 yrs) & her sister , Mylette (6yrs) disappeared Aug. 1from their Oceanway home while their mother was attending a sick relative.

Prosecutors concluded the girls were abducted by self-proclaimed mass murderer Paul John Knowles and closed the case. Knowles, a 28-year-old Jacksonville resident, was killed in December 1974 trying to escape from Georgia authorities.

In tape recordings found after his death, Knowles said he abducted two girls matching the description of the Anderson sisters and buried them in an isolated area at the western end of Commonwealth Avenue. Their bodies were never found despite a massive search. Lester Parmenter, the former homicide detective who investigated the disappearances, said he and his partner, Sgt. Richard Pruett, never considered the Anderson case cleared. Even so, ''We felt strongly that he probably did it. We couldn't prove it because we didn't have the bodies,'' Parmenter said.

Virginia Helm (12 yrs) disappeared Sept. 27 while going to a convenience store a block from her home on Dean Road on the Southside. A month later, her body was found in a shallow grave south of Beach Boulevard. She had been shot through the head.

Rebecca Ann Greene (12 yrs) disappeared Oct. 12 after buying soft drinks at a store in her Fairfield neighborhood. Her skeleton was found three years later on Heckscher Drive

Greetings"

What is the one thing that connects all these missing children? I mean there has got to be something that Somer's killer did? From the sounds of it' sure not method of disposal. I'm wondering allot of things now; like was Somer shot? Do we know if the other children found had been molested' etc?

Moonlite

[SnowWhite]

Originally Posted by Lovethechild

Along with Sheriff Beseler, John Walsh theorizes Somer's killer could be a pedophile serial murderer who may have re-emerged from a "dormant period," and who may be responsible for the previous disappearances of 4 additional children. Those cases remain open.



http://www.examiner.com/x-23328-True...most-3000-tips

Seems I posted nearly this exact same idea way back a few hundred posts ago.

[Ice Cycle]

Originally Posted by moonlite

Greetings"

What is the one thing that connects all these missing children? I mean there has got to be something that Somer's killer did? From the sounds of it' sure not method of disposal. I'm wondering allot of things now; like was Somer shot? Do we know if the other children found had been molested' etc?

Moonlite

Still no arrest I see, I think the fact that her family was not allowed to see here body makes a statement of it's own, unimaginable.

[SnowWhite]

Originally Posted by Lovethechild

Along with Sheriff Beseler, John Walsh theorizes Somer's killer could be a pedophile serial murderer who may have re-emerged from a "dormant period," and who may be responsible for the previous disappearances of 4 additional children. Those cases remain open.



http://www.examiner.com/x-23328-True...most-3000-tips

And now comes the stark reality that the person(s) responsible for this are NOT local, not from the neighborhood and are in fact highly MOBILE.

What does that mean for the rest of us? It means that while we sit here and type on this forum and think that we are safe because this big bad wolf is a long way away in another neighborhood he or she may in fact be in a neighborhood near you real soon. THAT'S the scary part.

I would not for one second assume that whoever did this is still down there by Horton Drive biting their nails. Watch your kids folks.

[SnowWhite]

I would also like to know how it is that authorities are so absolutely sure that this isn't connected to the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings. If they're that sure, no arrest has been made in that case, no body has been found and that case has gone cold.

Given the very close proximity of these two girls and the similarities in ages? I'd maybe be giving the town of Palatka a closer look.

[SnowWhite]

AND...I can see just from the decrease in the number of posts on this thread that the general public has already moved on to other cases. This is how fast these things grow cold.

[SnowWhite]

And while I'm sitting here pondering all of this alone on this thread, for that matter, Neveah Buchanan's abduction and murder has never been solved either. Say what you will about the freaks her mother let her be around but it STILL is not solved so there is another case where the person(s) responsible are at large.


Makes ya feel real safe don't it.

[Lovethechild]

Originally Posted by SnowWhite

And while I'm sitting here pondering all of this alone on this thread, for that matter, Neveah Buchanan's abduction and murder has never been solved either. Say what you will about the freaks her mother let her be around but it STILL is not solved so there is another case where the person(s) responsible are at large.


Makes ya feel real safe don't it.

Very scary. Justice needs to be served for all of these children.

[Ladygator]

Originally Posted by SnowWhite

AND...I can see just from the decrease in the number of posts on this thread that the general public has already moved on to other cases. This is how fast these things grow cold.

I've been waiting to hear something on Somer but there is nothing! LE seems to have no clue as to what happened to her. Without leads, there is nothing!

And I find that so hard to believe that somebody didn't see something. It was broad daylight, kids were walking around, there were crossing guards, etc, yet, it's true, I guess. Nobody seen anything!!!

For me, personally, this case resembles that of an old, cold case in my area. A girl got off at her bus stop and was never seen alive again. Her body was found days later in an orange grove.

The only thing I see similar between Somer and Haleigh {if Misty isn't involved} is that the person was bold and very daring in both cases. Snatching one in broad day light and the other walking into a home in the middle of the night.

[SnowWhite]

Originally Posted by Ladygator

I've been waiting to hear something on Somer but there is nothing! LE seems to have no clue as to what happened to her. Without leads, there is nothing!

And I find that so hard to believe that somebody didn't see something. It was broad daylight, kids were walking around, there were crossing guards, etc, yet, it's true, I guess. Nobody seen anything!!!

For me, personally, this case resembles that of an old, cold case in my area. A girl got off at her bus stop and was never seen alive again. Her body was found days later in an orange grove.

The only thing I see similar between Somer and Haleigh {if Misty isn't involved} is that the person was bold and very daring in both cases. Snatching one in broad day light and the other walking into a home in the middle of the night.

Thanks for your insight, I never got 'into' the Haleigh case for whatever reason, actually I think it was the unbelievable family dynamics in that case that just got completely in the way.

[Ladygator]

Originally Posted by SnowWhite

Thanks for your insight, I never got 'into' the Haleigh case for whatever reason, actually I think it was the unbelievable family dynamics in that case that just got completely in the way.

I'm on and off on Haleigh. Another precious girl that I hope is found but it's not looking good.

There would probably be more posts here about Somer if information was given out for us to discuss. There hasn't been anything, that I've seen, since the NC where the sheriff told of behavoir signs the killer might exhibit.

Timing has alot to do with it too. There are so many high profile cases going on right now.

[koawally]

Originally Posted by moonlite

Greetings"

What is the one thing that connects all these missing children? I mean there has got to be something that Somer's killer did? From the sounds of it' sure not method of disposal. I'm wondering allot of things now; like was Somer shot? Do we know if the other children found had been molested' etc?

Moonlite

Hi moonlite,

We still don't know if Somer was molested.

Two things that connect them:

The missing children are all from Florida.

The missing children are all girls.

Hopefully tonight John Walsh can help as he will have an update on Somers case.

So many of these cases in Florida...go cold

[museumgirl]

Just because people are not posting doesn't mean they have 'moved on'.... there is nothing new to discuss, people can still follow and be 'involved' in this w/o talking for the sake of talking.

[watson]

Originally Posted by koawally

Here is information on the other children:

http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/st..._2a1disap.html

Jean(Jeanie) Marie Schoen (9 yrs) July 21 1974 (missing 24 yrs) after going to a store near her grandmother's house on West 19th Street in Springfield. Body never found.

**Lillian Annette Anderson (11 yrs) & her sister , Mylette (6yrs) disappeared Aug. 1from their Oceanway home while their mother was attending a sick relative.

Prosecutors concluded the girls were abducted by self-proclaimed mass murderer Paul John Knowles and closed the case. Knowles, a 28-year-old Jacksonville resident, was killed in December 1974 trying to escape from Georgia authorities.

In tape recordings found after his death, Knowles said he abducted two girls matching the description of the Anderson sisters and buried them in an isolated area at the western end of Commonwealth Avenue. Their bodies were never found despite a massive search. Lester Parmenter, the former homicide detective who investigated the disappearances, said he and his partner, Sgt. Richard Pruett, never considered the Anderson case cleared. Even so, ''We felt strongly that he probably did it. We couldn't prove it because we didn't have the bodies,'' Parmenter said.

Virginia Helm (12 yrs) disappeared Sept. 27 while going to a convenience store a block from her home on Dean Road on the Southside. A month later, her body was found in a shallow grave south of Beach Boulevard. She had been shot through the head.

Rebecca Ann Greene (12 yrs) disappeared Oct. 12 after buying soft drinks at a store in her Fairfield neighborhood. Her skeleton was found three years later on Heckscher Drive

Thank you! I appreciate that.

[Wallie]

I came across an interesting article you may want to read while waiting for more info about Somer's death....

Traffic up at the state Web site that shows where convicted sexual offenders live
Traffic increases in recent weeks at state Web site registry

In the wake of the mid-October killing of 7-year-old Somer Thompson as she walked home from her Orange Park school, some have wondered if a sexual offender was involved. That may have sparked some of the increase in people logging onto the Florida Sexual Offenders and Predators Registry online at offender.fdle.state.fl.us to find out how many of the state's registered 52,000 sexual offenders and predators are in their neighborhoods.

Source: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/c...nvicted_sexual

[Chica]

Originally Posted by Wallie

I came across an interesting article you may want to read while waiting for more info about Somer's death....

Traffic up at the state Web site that shows where convicted sexual offenders live
Traffic increases in recent weeks at state Web site registry

In the wake of the mid-October killing of 7-year-old Somer Thompson as she walked home from her Orange Park school, some have wondered if a sexual offender was involved. That may have sparked some of the increase in people logging onto the Florida Sexual Offenders and Predators Registry online at offender.fdle.state.fl.us to find out how many of the state's registered 52,000 sexual offenders and predators are in their neighborhoods.

Source: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/c...nvicted_sexual

Gee, Don't state officials who are scratching their heads at the increase of web hits realize maybe it's because sex offender infested Florida has so many unsolved missing or murdered children ? And how can a sex offender just decide not to register? Sounds like falling through that crack is pretty easy. Doesn't anyone monitor these freaks? I am beginning to believe all LE are clueless and sitting in a doughnut shop. Sorry, if I offend any here in LE, but that is how I feel. It seems to be pretty easy for a SO to get his jollies off. I wonder why more aren't doing it?

[kelloggirl]

Somer Thompson Cops Ready to Move on Tips from AMW

Here's praying and hoping that tonight's episode leads to a break in Somer's case.

[sunstar]

Originally Posted by kelloggirl

Somer Thompson Cops Ready to Move on Tips from AMW

Here's praying and hoping that tonight's episode leads to a break in Somer's case.

I'm praying too!

[SnowWhite]

Originally Posted by museumgirl

Just because people are not posting doesn't mean they have 'moved on'.... there is nothing new to discuss, people can still follow and be 'involved' in this w/o talking for the sake of talking.

Good point thank you for bringing that up.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by kelloggirl

Somer Thompson Cops Ready to Move on Tips from AMW

Here's praying and hoping that tonight's episode leads to a break in Somer's case.

I hope AMW's phones are ringing off the wall with credible tips, and that Somer's killer is in jail very soon.

[Elyssa]

Praying AMW will jog someone's memory or conscious. Praying the murderer will be found and arrested.

[kelloggirl]

Items Still Missing From Somer Thompson

"ORANGE PARK, Fla. -- An episode of "America's Most Wanted" that aired Saturday night revealed two missing items Somer Thompson may have had on her the day she disappeared.

An artist's rendering of the items was released by police.

One is a tote-style bag 7-year-old used to carry her books and the other is a zippered, round lunch box with a pink pig design. Neither of these items have been recovered by investigators involved in the case.

Witnesses believe Somer had these two items with her when she was last seen walking home from school."

[Ladygator]

Originally Posted by kelloggirl

Items Still Missing From Somer Thompson

"ORANGE PARK, Fla. -- An episode of "America's Most Wanted" that aired Saturday night revealed two missing items Somer Thompson may have had on her the day she disappeared.

An artist's rendering of the items was released by police.

One is a tote-style bag 7-year-old used to carry her books and the other is a zippered, round lunch box with a pink pig design. Neither of these items have been recovered by investigators involved in the case.

Witnesses believe Somer had these two items with her when she was last seen walking home from school."

I still remember how Joseph Smith drove some 350 miles on the borrowed car he used to abduct Carlie Brucia with. While he dumped her body close to home, he traveled far, tossing her book bag and belongings into several dumpsters.

This could be what Somer's killer did as well.

I didn't watch the AMW show lastnight but I'm glad to see some 'new' information on the case being released.

[RainyNiteNTx]

Originally Posted by museumgirl

Just because people are not posting doesn't mean they have 'moved on'.... there is nothing new to discuss, people can still follow and be 'involved' in this w/o talking for the sake of talking.

Well put - you could post this on numerous threads I don't have time to post on every thread I would like, but I definitely check in. I also appreciate all of the updates you guys give.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by kelloggirl

Items Still Missing From Somer Thompson

"ORANGE PARK, Fla. -- An episode of "America's Most Wanted" that aired Saturday night revealed two missing items Somer Thompson may have had on her the day she disappeared.

An artist's rendering of the items was released by police.

One is a tote-style bag 7-year-old used to carry her books and the other is a zippered, round lunch box with a pink pig design. Neither of these items have been recovered by investigators involved in the case.

Witnesses believe Somer had these two items with her when she was last seen walking home from school."

Is that a skull and crossbones on the book bag?

[SnowWhite]

Originally Posted by Ladygator

I still remember how Joseph Smith drove some 350 miles on the borrowed car he used to abduct Carlie Brucia with. While he dumped her body close to home, he traveled far, tossing her book bag and belongings into several dumpsters.

This could be what Somer's killer did as well.

I didn't watch the AMW show lastnight but I'm glad to see some 'new' information on the case being released.

Thank you for posting this, and thank God this guy is in prison.

My opinion is that they released this lame tidbit just to keep this story in the media. Obviously to me who is going to pay any attention to a backpack and a lunch box especially if they didn't find it in the garbage with her? We can deduce that these items most likely were sent along in the garbage with her and if not and they are being kept as souvenirs by her killer then when they are found they will be WITH the person they are looking for.

They need to release better information. How about starting with where they think she was initially dumped? For one thing that alone would make the killer more uncomfortable because it would be revealing something very personal and for another someone in the area she was dumped may indeed then remember something.

I realize LE is trained to do these things but considering how these cases go cold I question their methods sometimes.

[Elyssa]

Originally Posted by Acey

Is that a skull and crossbones on the book bag?

Yes it is Acey.